Taking the Dremel tool to the dock - Fascinate Accessories

Because of one thing and another, I can't get the line out jack on the back of my home dock to work. (2.92 SC). So with the help of Mr. Dremel and a steady hand, I took matter into my own hands. Now my Fascinate can play music from remote speakers in the dock. Note for anyone else trying this: there are no wires or boards behind this portion of the dock. It works perfectly.

Well there ya go...what ever works right.

desk dock / car dock audio port usage
ssignature said:
Because of one thing and another, I can't get the line out jack on the back of my home dock to work. (2.92 SC). So with the help of Mr. Dremel and a steady hand, I took matter into my own hands. Now my Fascinate can play music from remote speakers in the dock. Note for anyone else trying this: there are no wires or boards behind this portion of the dock. It works perfectly.
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Crude, but effective .
I'm also using SC 2.9.2, and I just settled for flashing the EB01 touchwiz music player that adrynalyne referenced under patches in the current SC thread. You're looking for "eb01_twmusic.zip".
When you start playing a music file with this player while docked, you'll see a phone icon. Touch that icon and your audio is sent out the 3.5mm port in the back of the dock. Pause the song, hit the home key, and launch whatever audio source app you want to use, and all audio keeps routing out of the dock...
Granted, simply plugging a 3.5mm jack into your phone's newly-exposed port is probably easier .
I also have the car dock and the same procedure works there.
I wish a simple preference setting was provided by Samsung for this - oh wait - Samsung hasn't provided %^&* to help us out with the accessories they sold us...

bmeek said:
Crude, but effective .
I'm also using SC 2.9.2, and I just settled for flashing the EB01 touchwiz music player that adrynalyne referenced under patches in the current SC thread. You're looking for "eb01_twmusic.zip".
When you start playing a music file with this player while docked, you'll see a phone icon. Touch that icon and your audio is sent out the 3.5mm port in the back of the dock. Pause the song, hit the home key, and launch whatever audio source app you want to use, and all audio keeps routing out of the dock...
Granted, simply plugging a 3.5mm jack into your phone's newly-exposed port is probably easier .
I also have the car dock and the same procedure works there.
I wish a simple preference setting was provided by Samsung for this - oh wait - Samsung hasn't provided %^&* to help us out with the accessories they sold us...
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Can you tell me how to put the eb01 touchwiz music patch on ? That goes back to the like stock music player right? thats something Id really like to do

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Volume Control on Headphones

Hi
Does anyone know of a desire-compatible headphone remote control with a volume control?
I can't believe the one provided doesn't have one!
well since the headphones plug into a 3.5mm jack that takes no data, unlike the G1's proprietry extUSB, its actually impossible. Or impractical if you want. It would need t plug into the usb and the 3.5mm jack at the same time.
edit: define remote control. remote control as in changing songs or remote control as in just changing the volume with a slider?
Both.
Imagine the OEM remote control (skip tracks, play / pause) with the addition of a volume slider.
I personally disagree with alex101uk's comment. After all, the iPhone has a perfectly usable remote to do track skipping, volume control, play/pause and call control, all of that with a single 3.5mm jack, that as far as I can tell is exactly the same connector as the one on the original HTC remote.
So, I really don't understand:
1) Why the iPhone headsets cannot be used with HTC's phones. Surely it should have been possible to not invent yet another way of doing remote control
2) Why nobody wrote an application for Android that would make it possible to use Apple headsets (there are quite a few of those accessories available)
In the meantime, yeahdisk, you should try the Headset Volume Control app which allows the next/prev buttons on the original HTC remote to be used for volume control with a long click. It works well with the original music app and the HTC's own. I wish it did continuous volume control, but I guess it's better than nothing...
Could you point us in the direction of the volume control app please?
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Here it is. on Cyrket. $3, claims to work with Sense. I've not tried it.
Description as follows:
A tool that let`s you control the music volume with the stock headset`s buttons. Long press PREV / NEXT to make louder / quieter. Usable with android/sense default Music application. Just install it & start changing volume, no additional actions needed.
Found it. I was looking on AppBrain, but it turned up on the regular Market.
Works perfectly with the Music player on my Desire with PAYS latest ROM. Also works perfectly with the Saffire Audiobook player so I'm a happy bunny.
Just hold the button in for as long as you like until the volume reaches the required level.
$3 well spent in my view.
I use the iPhone headphones rather than the stock headphones because I find them more comfortable. Anyone know of a way to make the volume buttons do something?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Wabiloo said:
I personally disagree with alex101uk's comment. After all, the iPhone has a perfectly usable remote to do track skipping, volume control, play/pause and call control, all of that with a single 3.5mm jack, that as far as I can tell is exactly the same connector as the one on the original HTC remote.
So, I really don't understand:
1) Why the iPhone headsets cannot be used with HTC's phones. Surely it should have been possible to not invent yet another way of doing remote control
2) Why nobody wrote an application for Android that would make it possible to use Apple headsets (there are quite a few of those accessories available)
In the meantime, yeahdisk, you should try the Headset Volume Control app which allows the next/prev buttons on the original HTC remote to be used for volume control with a long click. It works well with the original music app and the HTC's own. I wish it did continuous volume control, but I guess it's better than nothing...
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actually im using iphone 1 and 2 generation version handset which has only on answer/cut button. i can skip/pause/play actions when it plays music via Meridian music player.
Jabbafat23 said:
I use the iPhone headphones rather than the stock headphones because I find them more comfortable. Anyone know of a way to make the volume buttons do something?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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im using 2nd generation iphone handset which there is no volume buttons on it. could you find some functions to work on the volume buttons?
Hi, I'm sorry to open an old thread but there are many unresolved things here that I really can use.
For example that Android app to make remotes from different brands work.
With remote i meant being able to change the volume, skip track, play/pause and make/end call.
Certain fruit-brand headsets are causing the most trouble. Yes, yes those damn iPhone and Ipod headset remotes.
I don't think it should be that hard to make an app that can read a signal from any remote, save/register it, gives you an option to bind it to a certain function.
Btw does anyone know Fibretronic? Check it out on Fibretronic.com.
I've modified my snowboard jacket to have a remote on the sleeve connected to the BTM module.
I was thinking of using the IPLX module, but since those are " Made for Ipod ", they have the incorrect functions on my HTC Desire HD. -> volume buttons not working, next/preventie track = call/end call last dialled person, play/pause does work.
Aythamie said:
Hi, I'm sorry to open an old thread but there are many unresolved things here that I really can use.
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I agree, am very curious why the Apple headphones control don't work with Android...they both use 4 conductor 3.5mm jacks correct? Even if it a slight hardware difference [i.e. resistance values] then an app could convert the Apple controls signals from the headset into Android system commands and push them to the phone/music player...right?
This could be a huuuuuuge feature if someone were to crack this problem...
This is something i have been interested in since i got my desire.
Before my desire i had the nokia N95 8GB and the inline headset control was awesome. Skip tracks forward and back, volume up and down, play/pause and stop and answer/hang up. The best part was the fact it had a 3.5mm connector on the end so you can use your own prefered headphones. They currently dont work with the desire. If someone could make a hack or app to allow this to work they would be fricken awesome.
This is what i am talking about incase anyone has not seen this before
http://www.nokia.co.uk/find-product...adsets-accessories/wired-headsets/hs-45-ad-54
(Volume controls are on the side)
schmittx said:
I agree, am very curious why the Apple headphones control don't work with Android...they both use 4 conductor 3.5mm jacks correct? Even if it a slight hardware difference [i.e. resistance values] then an app could convert the Apple controls signals from the headset into Android system commands and push them to the phone/music player...right?
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Not quite...
First, iPhone-compatible accessories use a different pinout (there are two industry standards for TRRS 3.5mm jacks and it turns out that HTC and iPhone use different ones)
Second, different resistance values are not something that could be easily handled by the software because translation of resistance values into commands happens in a piece of hardware - so, specific resistance values are, thus, "hardcoded" in the chip.
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beady_uk said:
If someone could make a hack or app to allow this to work they would be fricken awesome.
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You could of course try cutting off the stock 3.5mm jack on the remote control and soldering another one with the right pin-out, but even then it's not guaranteed the way the Nokia remote control uses to transmit the commands would be compatible with HTC hardware.
BTW, there seems to be a detailed DIY video:
Modify iPhone Headsets To Android Device Compatible Ones With Remote And Media Control Feature
I still have my original HTC earphones that came with the HTC Desire. Took it out once to try it but found it too uncomfortable and promptly put it away.
In case people are still looking for this, try using the app calles Jays Headset Control.
Simple and easy to use and then it allows to use 1 button to control a lot.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=se.jays.headsetcontrol

App to automatically change volume when headphones are connected

Hello. I'm trying to find an app that will allow me to maintain separate volume settings based on whether I have headphones connected or not.
Basically, when the headphone jack is in use, I want the media volume at 100% (it's actually plugged into my car). When I unplug the headphone jack, I'd like the volume to revert to a much lower setting (around 25%) or to simply return to the setting it was at before I connected the headphone plug.
Does anyone know of an app that can do this?
Thanks
I'm pretty sure Tasker can do this. Great application.
yep
plisk3n said:
I'm pretty sure Tasker can do this. Great application.
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Tasker can do this, it's one of my profiles.
Yep, tasker here as well. It will also pop up a menu with all my audio or video apps when I plug a pair in for me to easily pick.
Kind of pricey, but well worth it. I don't have a link to his site, but it is cheaper there (with a longer trial) than on the market.

[Q] Change music tracks through headset remote controls?

Anyone know of a compatible headset where the 'next/previous' buttons can control the music player on the i9000?
My nokia TV-out cable works for TV output, so tried my Nokia headset (WH-701) that has music playback controls on it in the hope that works too, but only the call answer button works. I got the stock android lockscreen, so no longer have the touchwiz pull-down music controls on the lockscreen, so it would be handy to be able to change tracks from the earphone wire.
Tried searching for appropriate keywords in the forum but didn't see anything about this.
Thanks
it can easily be done on the bluetooth headset
no idea about the wired ones
I see would prefer weird ones, but might have to look into the bluetooth types. Is there any bluetooth headset you use or can recommend?
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
I've been wondering about this too. The lack of control through the headset is the only thing that is keeping me from selling my iPod.
NOKIA BH-503 work like a charm, it is a wonderful headset with excellent bass, gives you like a surround effect, somtimes i flet like it was 5.1
silverstorm said:
I see would prefer weird ones, but might have to look into the bluetooth types. Is there any bluetooth headset you use or can recommend?
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
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there are a lot that i can recommend actually, it just depends on your preference and quality.
if you don't care much about Brand names, then there are a lot of good ones for cheap on DX extreme site.
if you want specific brand names they go for a lot for the good ones.
other things to consider are portability, longevity of the battery, sound quality, capable of answering the phone or not, etc
neolander said:
NOKIA BH-503 work like a charm, it is a wonderful headset with excellent bass, gives you like a surround effect, somtimes i flet like it was 5.1
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Do you mean the music controls work e.g. let you control tracks?
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AllGamer said:
there are a lot that i can recommend actually, it just depends on your preference and quality.
if you don't care much about Brand names, then there are a lot of good ones for cheap on DX extreme site.
if you want specific brand names they go for a lot for the good ones.
other things to consider are portability, longevity of the battery, sound quality, capable of answering the phone or not, etc
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Cool, will look into Deal Xtreme.
Cheers
with MixZing player u can use the included galaxy i9000 headset to change music tracks and play/pause.
- one click: play
- another click: pause
- two fast clicks: next song
The built-in Music Player app doesn't respond to the standard Bluetooth AVRCP headset control buttons. Most other music player apps will (I use Cubed).
If you want to use your own (wired) headphones through Bluetooth you may want to check this (or similar items) out: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422
Could be useful if you already got a fairly expensive set of 'phones and don't feel like spending even more on a Bluetooth headset. Just a $13 bluetooth receiver that you plug your headphones into.
Might order one myself as the lack of buttons is a big reason for me refraining from replacing my MP3 player with my SGS (the others being the sound quality and battery life - I'm curious what the receiver would do to those two as well).
I used MUSIC MOD free from market. Its like Music Player on steroids. Double fast tap on mic button for next track . 1 tap for stop. Most 3rd party music players also support headset buttons. Just not stock player
For the OP:
I have a DXJG4 and run the stock music player with it. All my bluetooth stereo headsets have full avrcp support (play, pause, ff and rew). I use the Nokia BH-503, Philipps SB9000 and recently the Backbeat 906. All buttons work. And during testing a couple more BT headsets, all the buttons work.
However, recently I found out the BT in my phone "forgets" some headsets. And when they attempt to connect, they are either not in the list or connect using the Phone profile only (Media profile is not ticked).
Spitfire128 said:
If you want to use your own (wired) headphones through Bluetooth you may want to check this (or similar items) out: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422
Could be useful if you already got a fairly expensive set of 'phones and don't feel like spending even more on a Bluetooth headset. Just a $13 bluetooth receiver that you plug your headphones into.
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I think I share your reservations about how it would affect the SGS's already not-too impressive audio quality.
ickyboo said:
I used MUSIC MOD free from market. Its like Music Player on steroids. Double fast tap on mic button for next track . 1 tap for stop. Most 3rd party music players also support headset buttons. Just not stock player
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Thanks - I will download this today and see how it goes with my wired headset!
mc_oliver said:
For the OP:
I have a DXJG4 and run the stock music player with it. All my bluetooth stereo headsets have full avrcp support (play, pause, ff and rew). I use the Nokia BH-503, Philipps SB9000 and recently the Backbeat 906. All buttons work. And during testing a couple more BT headsets, all the buttons work.
However, recently I found out the BT in my phone "forgets" some headsets. And when they attempt to connect, they are either not in the list or connect using the Phone profile only (Media profile is not ticked).
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Thanks for the advice! I think I might as well upgrade to bluetooth ones seeing as they are generally less hassle with no tangled wires etc! (downside is you need to keep them charged). Had a look at the BH503 but I'd prefer in-ear bud type earphones - hopefully there are bluetooth types somewhere!
I use the Jabra BT3030. Looks like a dogtag, but you can use your own headphones which is awesome, and all the controls work and it has a built in mic for handsfree calling. I have used a few bluetooth stereo headsets and this one is by far my favourite.
I just purchase the DR-BT 101 by sony,
and it works fine on the sgs default music player, as well as video player.
Been using it for 4 days so far, trouble free.
If u leave the bluetooth on your phone on, and close the music player, and press the ''on'' button on the dr-bt101, it will automatically turn on the music player by default, so long as it was the last bluetooth item you paired it with (eg if you were using a pc before this, it will pair with the pc if the pc program you used to pair it on is turned on)
Just a warning if you plan to use it on your pc as well, it has some problems with windows 7 64 bit. I used blue soleil drivers and that settled it.
also works with skype on both SGS and pc
I wouldn't mind posting a small review on the headphones if anyones interested
these samsung headsets work with the stock music player in froyo..
didnt work in eclair
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320553841349&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
one hit to button pauses , another resumes, and two hits skip forward a song
The standard headset (provided by the Samsung with SGS) is capable of changing music tracks through headset remote controls but for this you need a Power Amp Music Player which is available on Android Market.
Here is function which you can use with your regular Samsung provided standard headset
1 press: pause
2 press: next song
3 press: previous song
Why is everyone saying you need a special app to do these controls. The double click method works with the basic music player.
joelhon said:
Why is everyone saying you need a special app to do these controls. The double click method works with the basic music player.
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I believe the eariler posts were when the Galaxy S was in the 2.1 Eclair days. Now with the advent of 2.2 Froyo and 2.2.1 it seems Samsung have added this functionality only recently in the new firmwares.

t959 desktop dock - i9000 no sound from audio out

trying to work out if this is only hardware specific to the t959 and not i9000 or if my dock is faulty or samsung/android is not up to speed. maybe i have to do some software tweak??
Got myself the t959 desktop dock and the i9000 fits perfectly, charges and automatically runs the desktop app. all good
my problem is i cant get audio to come out of the docks 3.5mm plug which is usb audio out from i9000. it just keeps coming out the phones speaker no matter what.
the official info from samsung is that froyo 2.2 will allow the audio out of the usb port. at least on the dock advertising and packaging.
info about dock in this link.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ECR-D979BEGSTA-features
Ive tried darkys 8.0 rom which is running 2.2.1 i believe and today tried with darkys 8.0 rom and voodoo 5.2 sound optimised kernel but no go on the usb audio out.
any ideas or info would be appreciated.
cheers
B
Maybe the custom kernel has broken the sound through usb support?
Try install a stock kernel (or stock+ voodoo maybe).. at least to rule out the possibility.
ok found this thread after many many searches. from google strangly but anyway...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858804
doesnt look like the stock samsung kernel does it either on any device.
might put a request in to voodoo to see if they can do it.
Have you installed the Desk home Samsung"-App?
You can get it here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=433127&d=1288811265
In the settings you can switch between internal and external speakers.
Some extra goodies:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817092
But I'm worried why it seems to be only mono and not stereo....
Hi,
Just got this dock too (t929 for Samsung Vibrant) and the line-out seems to be working for me.
My phone is UK - XEU unlocked Samsung Galaxy S, running official Samsung 2.2.1 firmware (XXJPY). (no mods of any kind)
Also using the Desk Home app from Samsung Apps, version reports as 1.0.
The only odd thing (probably due to the app version) is that the sound comes out both the phone speaker and the line-out. In order to use the line-out properly, looks like have to mute the phone sound via the dock app.
I only used the standard music app and have not tried other apps though.
Things I noticed while have a play:
- clicking the "home" button takes you to the desk home app rather than
the home screen.
- while docked, music app Effects won't work
- plugin phone to dock launches desk home app.
- if you Exit desk home, touchwiz home screen is in landscape mode
I will try the app mentioned earlier, as curious to try the speaker config setting.
Overall, am happy, just wish Samsung had this in EU (UK) during phone launch and also had the original dock that was shown with the speakers.
Cheers,
Hi,
same problem for me. I got the Samsung cardock last week but audio out doesn't work. I'm on Darky 9.0 with hardcore K12Q kernel maybe it will work with the stock JPY or with voodoo kernel...I gonna try this tomorrow I think.
If this is a hardware problem i can solve it myself with a little bit creativity and some information about the car mode and how to get in this mode.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275
with the right resistance you might be able to turn it on manually an than use headphone in and micro usb at the same time so that you doesnt need the original power supply...
On the Desk Home app, I had to press the "mute" button in order to get the sound to go to the line out. If I exit the Desk Home app, the sound comes back to the internal speaker....
ok more information.. the version of the app posted via links earlier in the thead does not work right in froyo.. if you set up weather in daily briefing it crashes when running
this modified version (older) i found for froyo does work correctly with weather and it even pops up the app correcly when you plug in the cradle.. in addition it does not let the screen time out and turn off like the other version.. havent tried with music yet but there is a setting to use music out over usb in the app.. i am running jpy 2.2.1 let me know how it works for you..
notif. bar is too bright.. at night dont know a way to hide it.. anyone?
very happy to report that the audio out also works through the dock.. when you goto options and set it to turn off internal speaker...just tried on some amplied speakers and the internal speaker shuts off.. very sweet..
now the only real issue is the innability to hide the notif. bar, and the worry about screen burnin.. maybe there should be an option to set timeout (different than regular timeout) to say xx minutes or something.. with a little moving area you can touch to turn the screen back on.. kinda like a screen saver.
also was supprised that the app pops up authomatically when you plug into the dock even without having the dock plugged in as it is not good to have the battery continually charging.. must be some sort of resister internal in the dock.
daylefmp said:
On the Desk Home app, I had to press the "mute" button in order to get the sound to go to the line out. If I exit the Desk Home app, the sound comes back to the internal speaker....
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Thanks heaps for all the effort and replies.
My v1.0 desk home from samsung works as above. will try the attached version as the one from samsung doesnt have internal speaker olff in settings.
EDIT: update both the versions work.
v1.0 available from samsung apps store uses mute for 3.5mm plug audio out.
attached version above use uncheck internal speaker.
both versions need to be running in order for 3.5mm plug to output audio. So guessing this is done via dock home app and any other app can take advantage of it.
start playing thru poweramp then run dock home and your audio comes out 3.5mm plug
this is all on i9000 btw and i suspect also t959.
have emailed both poweramp and alarm clock plus to see whether they would mod their apps to work same as desk home.
will see what they come back with but in the mean time thanks for showing me how i can get my music out the 3.5mm plug.
I know this thread is a little old, but I too have this dock, and I'm having audio related problems.
I have a Samsung Vibrant (T959), which is designed to work with this dock. I upgraded to Froyo, which again is necessary in order to get the audio to work using the line out port. And I downloaded and installed the Desk Home app. I also muted the speaker.
I get audio, but it's horrible.... nowhere near the quality I get when using the phone's headphone jack. The line out port has almost no bass... I'm not being picky, the difference is DRASTIC.
I sent the unit back to Samsung TWICE, and both replacement units had the same issue.... horrible audio quality using the line out port. Has anyone else experienced this problem?
I'm starting to thing my phone may be to blame, but I can't be sure as I don't have a second phone to test the dock with. The thing is.... the audio is great when I use the phone's headphone jack. Maybe when the audio is transmitted via the phone's USB port it degrades in quality?? Is this possible?
Just got this car mount yesterday.
Using Car Dock Home or Dock Sound Redirector in the market seems to make the music play for me through the car speakers.
Quality seems great - no different than before (and better quality than radio). Using MyUI Delphenium ROM which has the Voodoo sound kernal I believe.
Only problem is that calls don't work (as reported on multiple threads). I have to switch to internal speaker to hear people. Will look around the market for a replacement app...

Galaxy S + Desktop Dock

Hallo,
today i got my Desktop Dock. So i thought tell you how it worked.
First it looks vary nice on my desk. But the first issue i head is the Audio output. The only way i got it to work is by installing the Home Dock App. With the app it worked nice. But the sound is vary bad when the Charger is plugged in. I think they did not put any shielding in so the charging is interfering with the audio signal...
An other problem is the lock screen, I use the nice dot connecting one, it activates after the timeout an when starting a app i have to input the code for the app to start, vary annoying...
Thats all i noticed for now.
ps: If you noticed the same problems and got a solution please tell me.
In my case i cannot get audio output at all. Don't know but maybe it has something to do with voodoo sound. I use that Desk-app too. Strange, have to investigate ...

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