[Q] Thinking of making the switch - HTC Inspire 4G

I'm sure this has been asked before but I didn't see it so please be gentle lol. I currently own the Atrix and am on like 27 days. It is rooted and has a "ROM" on it with the webtop hack installed. I am starting to have a bitter taste in my mouth due to Motorola and their locked bootloaders. This is my first Android device and I am kind of let down I think because of it.
I had the Inspire for a brief period before all the ROMs were around and the thing that made me return the phone was the battery life and the low volume speaker. Have these things been addressed by roms and overclocking/underclocking and a speaker boost? I'd like to be able to enjoy the true Android experience and it seems that if I keep the Atrix I won't have that at all. I like the Atrix but it definately is being limited by the locked bootloader and the lack of developer support for it due to motorola being the way they are.
Thanks in advance guys!

Well designngears turned in his Atrix and now has an HTC Inspire so to me that's enough said lol. I have awesome battery life on the rom and kernel below and I'm over clocked at 1.5 Ghz . I have never owned an Atrix but I love my inspire and now that DG is here I'm highly excited
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Mustang302LX said:
I'm sure this has been asked before but I didn't see it so please be gentle lol. I currently own the Atrix and am on like 27 days. It is rooted and has a "ROM" on it with the webtop hack installed. I am starting to have a bitter taste in my mouth due to Motorola and their locked bootloaders. This is my first Android device and I am kind of let down I think because of it.
I had the Inspire for a brief period before all the ROMs were around and the thing that made me return the phone was the battery life and the low volume speaker. Have these things been addressed by roms and overclocking/underclocking and a speaker boost? I'd like to be able to enjoy the true Android experience and it seems that if I keep the Atrix I won't have that at all. I like the Atrix but it definately is being limited by the locked bootloader and the lack of developer support for it due to motorola being the way they are.
Thanks in advance guys!
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Well I haven't flashed any custom roms yet personally, but it appears that at least some of them do improve battery life to some degree, though battery life probably isn't going to be perfect no matter what you do.
How the phone is used really impacts battery life. The screen on the inspire seems to really be the battery-killer, from my experience.
As far as the sound, there's a least one fix, for the "tinny" issue, I'm not sure if it fixes the volume. I'm sure someone with more rom experience will likely chime in.
In any case, I'm on pretty close to day 27 as well, of my inspire, and I have absolutely no desire to switch to an atrix...
The thing is, as you can see by the proliferation of roms for the inspire, things are at least *possible* with this phone. That alone should be enough to convince you.
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Kizzmiazz said:
Well designngears turned in his Atrix and now has an HTC Inspire so to me that's enough said lol. I have awesome battery life on the rom and kernel below and I'm over clocked at 1.5 Ghz . I have never owned an Atrix but I love my inspire and now that DG is here I'm highly excited
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Wow. DG is on the inspire now? Didn't know that. Great news.
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I returned my Atrix after ~25 days and picked up an Inspire. I ran the Ace Hack Kit and installed CM7 nightly and everything seems to be working correctly. I haven't looked back.

Mustang302LX said:
I'm sure this has been asked before but I didn't see it so please be gentle lol. I currently own the Atrix and am on like 27 days. It is rooted and has a "ROM" on it with the webtop hack installed. I am starting to have a bitter taste in my mouth due to Motorola and their locked bootloaders. This is my first Android device and I am kind of let down I think because of it.
I had the Inspire for a brief period before all the ROMs were around and the thing that made me return the phone was the battery life and the low volume speaker. Have these things been addressed by roms and overclocking/underclocking and a speaker boost? I'd like to be able to enjoy the true Android experience and it seems that if I keep the Atrix I won't have that at all. I like the Atrix but it definately is being limited by the locked bootloader and the lack of developer support for it due to motorola being the way they are.
Thanks in advance guys!
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I switched from Atrix to Inspire after Inspire had custom roms, and even though Motorola is releasing an update to fix most of the issues I had with the Atrix, I would still NOT go back to it.

Scott_S said:
Wow. DG is on the inspire now? Didn't know that. Great news.
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Yeah saw a few post by him and someone said his sig said that bit had to make sure so I pm.ed him last night and he verified that yes he did go and get an HTC Inspire and is already working on his first project
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I was an iPhone 4 user who went to a Atrix and didn't like it so now I'm on an Inspire and like it a lot.

Thanks for the reply guys. I'm "new" to Android its been about a month total using Android. Not sure what CM7 Nightlies means. I know CM7 is a ROM that puts Gingerbread on the device correct? But nightly does that imply you have to flash your phone every night with an update making you lose all your stuff? I think I'm going to make the switch. Going to flash the retail SBF back at lunch brining the phone back to stock and hopefully AT&T will allow me to switch since it hasn't been 30 days with the Atrix yet.

As far as the low volume, that is some thing that can be and is being fixed. Since our Devs. can fix this in the kernel, it shouldn't be that big of a problem. I am on a stock rooted rom with OC and a 20% bump in audio levels.
And no, with nightlies you don't have to do a full wipe. Just install it over the other rom using CWM and it should be good.
Mustang302LX said:
Thanks for the reply guys. I'm "new" to Android its been about a month total using Android. Not sure what CM7 Nightlies means. I know CM7 is a ROM that puts Gingerbread on the device correct? But nightly does that imply you have to flash your phone every night with an update making you lose all your stuff? I think I'm going to make the switch. Going to flash the retail SBF back at lunch brining the phone back to stock and hopefully AT&T will allow me to switch since it hasn't been 30 days with the Atrix yet.
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droe411 said:
As far as the low volume, that is some thing that can be and is being fixed. Since our Devs. can fix this in the kernel, it shouldn't be that big of a problem. I am on a stock rooted rom with OC and a 20% bump in audio levels.
And no, with nightlies you don't have to do a full wipe. Just install it over the other rom using CWM and it should be good.
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Sounds good. Hopefully rooting this will be as easy as rooting the Atrix was. I know you need a Gold Card and other stuff but hopefully it's not too bad for a noob for the most part haha.

It's not to tough! I did it the first day I go it, no problems what so ever. Just look at Attn1's hack kit, follow the steps. If you can follow directions well it easy! Plus there are a lot of people on here that will help you!
Mustang302LX said:
Sounds good. Hopefully rooting this will be as easy as rooting the Atrix was. I know you need a Gold Card and other stuff but hopefully it's not too bad for a noob for the most part haha.
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A lot of the custom kernels have a 20 % speaker boost. I implemented it in my kernel, it's not hard to do at all.
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"Sent from a puddle of Steve Job's tears" Hahaha
DOAlaboratories said:
A lot of the custom kernels have a 20 % speaker boost. I implemented it in my kernel, it's not hard to do at all.
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I noticed that G to but I didn't think of it.
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Made the switch and downloading all needed tools to do the root process. Can't wait to actually experience the TRUE freedom of Android.

DOAlaboratories said:
A lot of the custom kernels have a 20 % speaker boost. I implemented it in my kernel, it's not hard to do at all.
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did you implement the boost for the external speaker only? or did you increase output for the in-call/earpiece volume as well. would appreciate a link to your kernel as well. i'm currently using the latest Desire S port for the Desire HD and the cm7-inspire-audiofix-r1.zip (to restore stock audio) and the speaker output is much louder compared to the stock Inspire ROM. in-call audio appears to be louder as well (although could be placebo). my standard is the audio boost incorporated on the Nexus 1 (post 65, post 71 and post 85); don't know if this is possible, but it made a huge difference.

Mustang302LX said:
Made the switch and downloading all needed tools to do the root process. Can't wait to actually experience the TRUE freedom of Android.
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Another successful Inspire convert.
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harolds said:
I switched from Atrix to Inspire after Inspire had custom roms, and even though Motorola is releasing an update to fix most of the issues I had with the Atrix, I would still NOT go back to it.
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Until Moto unlocks the bootloader I'll have nothing to do with them.

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From Inspire to Atrix back to Inspire :D

I really enjoyed the Inspire but I started to get all crazy reception issues where I couldnt make a call or receive sometimes. Anyone else having these issues? Someone at the att store said alot of ppl are complaining of this.
Yesterday I exchanged for the atrix and it felt a lil bit more snappy, nothing to wow me but I could make calls and receive, no issues at all. My main issue was it would hardly charge on usb from any pc I used, and it would get really hot trying so right there I said, this is going back. In less than 24hrs I was back at the AT&T store to get a new inspire.
I really dont want to have any reception issues, and I almost believe all the flashing roms, radios, kernels, I messed something up along the way. Heck, Im even scared to root now. I want to use the phone totally stock and make sure it works great whereever I am before I root even. I'm also wondering if rooting causes battery to drain quicker.
So I ask all you experienced Android users/developers. Am I right in believing that all the flashing I've done might of messed my reception? Even maybe rooting might have messed something up? If not, is there a way to make a complete backup right now, so I can go right back to this when I do begin to root and what not. I almost feel like the stock rom, when I went back to it and unrooted before I returned the last inspire made no difference. The new Inspire seems to hold a better signal now. So can I back up the current stock rom before I do anything?
Interested to hear what advice this drums up. I went from Atrix (painfully bad PenTile LCD, shamelessly locked down) to Inspire back to my old N1 because I got a few days of no signal and missed calls in the office. I read recently that there's some sort of leaked magical radio that fixes a lot of the issues, so I'm keeping an eye towards the Inspire. $20 at Costco is a worthy use of my contract upgrade.
Yeah, there are other phones coming down the pike. I'm stuck with AT&T and given this is an otherwise solid phone and how awesome HTC tech support has been with my N1 I don't want to go with another mfr. Also Optimus 3D has only 512MB RAM? WTF?
If you have patience, your issues will be ironed out. Inspire ROMs and development is still kind of early.
If you just be patient, GPS...reception....bugs....will all be a thing of the past. Both devices are excellent. HTC build quality and 'openness' is something to envy. Just relax, I think you made a wise choice.
Just out of curiosity, what rom were you running when you started having issues? I'm on stock with root and have yet to have any problems with gps or reception.
SysAdmNj said:
I really enjoyed the Inspire but I started to get all crazy reception issues where I couldnt make a call or receive sometimes. Anyone else having these issues? Someone at the att store said alot of ppl are complaining of this.
Yesterday I exchanged for the atrix and it felt a lil bit more snappy, nothing to wow me but I could make calls and receive, no issues at all. My main issue was it would hardly charge on usb from any pc I used, and it would get really hot trying so right there I said, this is going back. In less than 24hrs I was back at the AT&T store to get a new inspire.
I really dont want to have any reception issues, and I almost believe all the flashing roms, radios, kernels, I messed something up along the way. Heck, Im even scared to root now. I want to use the phone totally stock and make sure it works great whereever I am before I root even. I'm also wondering if rooting causes battery to drain quicker.
So I ask all you experienced Android users/developers. Am I right in believing that all the flashing I've done might of messed my reception? Even maybe rooting might have messed something up? If not, is there a way to make a complete backup right now, so I can go right back to this when I do begin to root and what not. I almost feel like the stock rom, when I went back to it and unrooted before I returned the last inspire made no difference. The new Inspire seems to hold a better signal now. So can I back up the current stock rom before I do anything?
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pokey9000 said:
Interested to hear what advice this drums up. I went from Atrix (painfully bad PenTile LCD, shamelessly locked down) to Inspire back to my old N1 because I got a few days of no signal and missed calls in the office. I read recently that there's some sort of leaked magical radio that fixes a lot of the issues, so I'm keeping an eye towards the Inspire. $20 at Costco is a worthy use of my contract upgrade.
Yeah, there are other phones coming down the pike. I'm stuck with AT&T and given this is an otherwise solid phone and how awesome HTC tech support has been with my N1 I don't want to go with another mfr. Also Optimus 3D has only 512MB RAM? WTF?
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nailed my main problems right there (in bold)...
Nice to see you lingering in the inspire forums DG
I purchased the Inspire the day it came out and absolutely loved it. That one had major issues with the screen. It would not register my touch about 80% of the time. So I exchanged that one for another Inspire and the second one had all sorts of problems. Dropped calls, calls no received, no VM notification, random reboots, and of course the always popular, locked phone that required a battery pull.
At that point I just thought the Inspire was not that great of a phone so I exchanged for the Atrix. When the phone arrived I knew two seconds after it booted that I hated the phone. It felt cheap, it was tiny, and Motoblur reminded me too much of TouchWiz - which is a shame because the guts of the phone should have made it a monster but Moto has a long way to go with their Motoblur. Within 2 hours of getting the Atrix I took it back.
So, I am on my third Inspire and so far so good. No missed calls, dropped calls, texts, no reboots, no locks, no problems at all. Right now I am rooted running the stock rom. I have tried a few different roms - RCMiXHD_v5X, LeeDroid_HD v2.2.2, and Android Revolution 4G. I had GPS issues with LeeDroid and Revolution and data problems with RCMiXHD. The phone has performed pretty dang good with root+Stock so I will probably keep it that way. Hopefully a GB version will drop soon because I do like the extra features that brings.
Anyway, thats just my experience.
This thread is getting some good information placed in it, and a good OP as well.
My recommendation is that you follow the hack kit, but stick to ROMs based off of the Stock Inspire ROM for now. As much as I enjoy a UV/OC kernal, I can't say it's making a huge impact in my day-to-day use of this phone. I'm running AR 3.2, without any issues right now on the stock inspire radio, but my next flash will probably be a ROM like ClearDroid.
I also wish we had an easy stock backup procedure, but as far as i know we're stuck with the reflash + s-off combo.
As a side note: Where the heck did DG come from?! It's good to see you popping your head in here. I started with your Super-rooter and lived on Cognition and Perception for my Captivate.
berdo said:
~SNIP~ Hopefully a GB version will drop soon because I do like the extra features that brings.
Anyway, thats just my experience.
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CoreDroid HD 4.6
RCMix HD 5.3
Android Revolution HD 4.0
MIUI
All of those are Gingerbread ROMs, there's always CM7, and 2 devs are currently working on an AOSP
Im not sure which rom was the culprit, I dont want to bad mouth anyones work as it could of just been my doing and I definitely appreciate the hard work and effort the devs put in. But I did experience a few issues trying the revolution rom, I tried different versions. But I also tried several other roms so I cant really pinpoint. I know I like the revolution but would have to leave it because of issues, I kept trying though.
I cant really recall as battery life hasnt been a huge issue for me on the inspire, but for everyone that has rooted their phone, would you say battery life improved or worsened? I'm probably going to root later on tonight.
Oh and why no 'one click' root/unroot scripts for the Inspire yet? Just wondering, because even the atrix had a one click root script.
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All of those are Gingerbread ROMs, there's always CM7, and 2 devs are currently working on an AOSP
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Yeah I meant more of a legit release not a leaked version. I have tried RCMix and Adroid Revolution and had issues with both. Nothing major but enough for me to go back to stock.
I'm having an oposite dilemma.. I first bought the Atrix and then after i noticed a little lag when unlocking the device i bought the Inspire.. I had the Atrix for 2 weeks and i have had the Inspire for 1 week.
What i have noticed about the Inspire is that when I try to open a .doc file thats only 62kb large, its not nearly as smooth as the Atrix with the scrolling and double tapping to zoom in. I dont know why this is... 62kb is pretty small. When i had the Atrix, it opened the same file super fast and there was no lag at all..
Also, with websites like adultswim and phonedog which has a lot of flash, the Inspire lags quite a bit compared to the Atrix which has little to no lag.
Im very tempted to go back to the Atrix and just live with the little bit of lag when unlocking.. IDK what i should do..
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I'm having an oposite dilemma.. I first bought the Atrix and then after i noticed a little lag when unlocking the device i bought the Inspire.. I had the Atrix for 2 weeks and i have had the Inspire for 1 week.
What i have noticed about the Inspire is that when I try to open a .doc file thats only 62kb large, its not nearly as smooth as the Atrix with the scrolling and double tapping to zoom in. I dont know why this is... 62kb is pretty small. When i had the Atrix, it opened the same file super fast and there was no lag at all..
Also, with websites like adultswim and phonedog which has a lot of flash, the Inspire lags quite a bit compared to the Atrix which has little to no lag.
Im very tempted to go back to the Atrix and just live with the little bit of lag when unlocking.. IDK what i should do..
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Well good luck in your decision. I dont doubt the Atrix was a tad faster at some things left stock, but that wasnt a main concern for me as I know on the Inspire a rom here a kernel there can remedy that.
I've actually opened .doc and .xls files close to that size on a daily basis with no real lag issue. Then again I'm using Documents To Go, app I used from my Blackberry days. Works pretty smoothly.
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Well good luck in your decision. I dont doubt the Atrix was a tad faster at some things left stock, but that wasnt a main concern for me as I know on the Inspire a rom here a kernel there can remedy that.
I've actually opened .doc and .xls files close to that size on a daily basis with no real lag issue. Then again I'm using Documents To Go, app I used from my Blackberry days. Works pretty smoothly.
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Thats weird cause i used quickoffice to open the .doc and it was really laggy just now, being on the phone at the same time..
Though the Inspire is able the flash roms ....Atrix is by far a better phone. I've played with cousins Inspire, it doesn't compare to my Atrix
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I m running the rooted stock rom self-cleaned from the ATT bloat with TiBU in chuck norris mode... No problem with my GPS, no problem with the reception... battery life around one day of pretty intensive use... I notice altough I m not having issues as i mentioned the signal's strength displayed is always pretty low (2/3 on 5)...
I tried ClearDroid but since it was pretty much the same as my 'self-purified' stock i just got back to it...
I don't think the reception's issue was related to the rooting itself... some device is just kinda defective from factory...
In the end it boils down to personal preferences.
I had both and got rid of the Atrix for the Inspire because of screen size and its speedy as is out the box. Don't really see the need for a Dual CoreS unless I'm gonna shell out more cash for the laptop Which I see is pointless since I might as well lug around my Vaio i7. In the end I'm happy with the Inspires build quality and performance.
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Though the Inspire is able the flash roms ....Atrix is by far a better phone. I've played with cousins Inspire, it doesn't compare to my Atrix
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It depends on your needs/preferences. Specs wise, yes the Atrix might be better but the Atrix does have its issues as well which irked me enough to come back to the Inspire which I liked so much I'm willing to give it a second try. One thing is for sure, I cant see myself getting another Motorola device anytime soon. Been there a few times, and had bad experiences with their locked devices. HTC has been the better experience for me so far and I'm enjoying the Inspire more than I did the Atrix.
Very true about preference...I like the Inspire's size wouldn't want to go bigger. Many hate motor for locking down the BL....but it seems like HTC will be doing the same on future devices
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Happy to see DG posting over here. I hope that means we'll be seeing more of him

Upgrade from Cappy... is it worth it?

I'm eligible for a free upgrade. Is it worth it or should I wait?
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I upgraded from the captivate and I still own two captivates ( wifes and sons ) and every time I play around the captivates I am so glad I got the Inspire. I still believe the Captivate is an awesome phone but the Inspire definitely blows the captivate away and I could never go back lol
So even though I already made a long story lol yes its an awesome phone and in my opinion you will not regret it
Don't know if you know him, but I just got Adamholden developer of Phoenix, Supernova etc an HTC Inspire and he should be receiving it on Monday and will begin developing Phoenix on the Inspire. Just another good reason to get one lol
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to be honest, i don't see it being worth using an upgrade for. If you have the 5$ monthly insurance, i would pay 125 bucks and have them send you an Inspire instead of a Captivate. Or buy a Inspire off craigslist. I guess thats just me. If i'm going to use an update, i want to know i'm making a good decision. In the future, i may even use updates for iphones and just resell them. At least you know you are getting the most money from your update
I sold my Captivate for 260 and bought my Inspire for 69 and haven't looked back. Loving it. Great to see you here too, Kizz. Remember you from Adams threads, which made the Captivated somewhat bearable. I've noticed DesignGears in here too, recently. Maybe Cognition for Inspire?
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Actually, I am VERY familiar with Adam's work. I have been onboard with the Phoenix ROMS since 3.5. I've also used all the Supernova's. Hell, I even tried Fusion. I saw where you said that you were getting him an Inspire. That alone realllllly makes me want to go that route. The only thing that has kept me with the Cappy is the work that he does. I just wanna say that you guys do GREAT work and make our wives crazy and our phones amazing. Thank you!!!!
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I sold my Captivate for 260 and bought my Inspire for 69 and haven't looked back. Loving it. Great to see you here too, Kizz. Remember you from Adams threads, which made the Captivated somewhat bearable. I've noticed DesignGears in here too, recently. Maybe Cognition for Inspire?
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DG said he is working in something.
Adam should have his Inspire on Monday and were gonna start on Phoenix Evolution HD , Probably gonna be 1.80 stock Inspire of course phoenix themed and then were gonna get busy on some Gingerbread. We are also trying to get a few other Team Phoenix over here. But I think you all will be happy with our Evolution
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to be honest, i don't see it being worth using an upgrade for. If you have the 5$ monthly insurance, i would pay 125 bucks and have them send you an Inspire instead of a Captivate. Or buy a Inspire off craigslist. I guess thats just me. If i'm going to use an update, i want to know i'm making a good decision. In the future, i may even use updates for iphones and just resell them. At least you know you are getting the most money from your update
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Well nice thing about AT&T upgrades, is if he doesn't like the phone he has thirty days to decide and if takes it back he can have them reverse the upgrade. I've done that before lol.
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Wow im confused lol doesn't take much to confuse me but non the less
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i cant even stand to go in the captivate forums anymore. dont get me wrong there are some devs in there that deserve credit, but theres too much work that just gets regurgitated and kanged, and people who can barely even make a rom(im not saying adam cant make a rom)are suddenly coming out with these roms with things that took me and other devs MONTHS to fix, without even a mention of names or whatever. thats just a big thing for me, i dont care if someone takes my work, but atleast give credit where its due.
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i cant even stand to go in the captivate forums anymore. dont get me wrong there are some devs in there that deserve credit, but theres too much work that just gets regurgitated and kanged, and people who can barely even make a rom(im not saying adam cant make a rom)are suddenly coming out with these roms with things that took me and other devs MONTHS to fix, without even a mention of names or whatever. thats just a big thing for me, i dont care if someone takes my work, but atleast give credit where its due.
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I hope you don't mean Adam. I only say that cause Adam always gives credit to people and is always very thankful for help.
Thats why I love Adam as a friend cause he its one of the coolest devs there. Including your self. There were only a few devs I thought were cool over there including you. You can tel me the truth I don't take sides. I'm to old for that stuff, the big 40 lol. Or just pm me so we don't cloud this guys thread.
Not to make you feel guilty but you were one of the first people he mentioned that he was glad to see over here .
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Just got my wife an inspire today.been playing with it and so far the so called 4g speeds are non existant. I live in phoenix so I know the hspa+ is here. I can't root it till she is for sure going to keep it so maybe that will solve some things.i hate that it only comes with 8gb too.the resolution isn't as sharp as the cappy but those are my only complaints.im still trying to figure it this gold card stuff??
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eramming said:
Just got my wife an inspire today.been playing with it and so far the so called 4g speeds are non existant. I live in phoenix so I know the hspa+ is here. I can't root it till she is for sure going to keep it so maybe that will solve some things.i hate that it only comes with 8gb too.the resolution isn't as sharp as the cappy but those are my only complaints.im still trying to figure it this gold card stuff??
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Yeah the 4G stuff was bs but I knew that going in and wasn't one of my reasons to get it as for resolution, play with inspire for a week or two and then play with the cappy. I can't stand playing on the cappy now just because, one its so slow compared to the inspire and I love the inspires resolution. It took me a bit to feel that way. I actually felt the same way you did . Almost took it back the first week cause of what you just posted lol and battery life . But again after a week of charging my inspire actually last just as long or longer than my cappy did.
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I'm just disappointed that the salesman wasn't up front about the speeds. Im curious to see how long it takes for att to come correct. Hopefully not as long as it took to get froyo! Lol
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eramming said:
I'm just disappointed that the salesman wasn't up front about the speeds. Im curious to see how long it takes for att to come correct. Hopefully not as long as it took to get froyo! Lol
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Lol agreed , but looks like there working on the speeds now . Supposed to be this month sometime actually. Some have already seen the speed improvements . I don't blame you for being upset about the data speeds. Like I said I knew that going in. I was fine with the same speeds I had with the cappy.
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The Cappy was definitely a great device and there are still things I miss from the device. The Screen, Easy Rooting Process, TW is not as intrusive as Sense. The abundant amount of Memory. 16gb on the Cappy and 8 on the inspire. I sold my Cappy on Craigs List. Bought Inspire from Craig too. Saving that Upgrade may try Verizon. AT&T locking out non market apps is bad too.
But moving on to the Inspire I have loved the Spot on GPS. Sense is a little heavy but I can live with it. HTC makes solid devices and I am sure we will get an update to 2.3 sometime. I still think the camera on the Cappy is better but I still like the Flash the Inspire has. The Inspire will be worth the upgrade but waiting for the new devices that are coming will be a good Idea too.
Speeds on both devices are good and on par with each other.
I recently came from a captivate. Overall, imo, the inspire is a better device. However, there are a couple of points where the captivate wins...screen resolution, speaker, slim design, more internal storage, and easy rooting. It all depends on what's more important to you.
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cavsoldier19d said:
I recently came from a captivate. Overall, imo, the inspire is a better device. However, there are a couple of points where the captivate wins...screen resolution, speaker, slim design, more internal storage, and easy rooting. It all depends on what's more important to you.
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screen resolution is the same on the captivate/inspire.
Put the inspire and cappy side by side, look at the screens and tell me they are the same...if you honestly think that, you need to have your eyes checked. Cappy screen is crisper and more brilliant.
cavsoldier19d said:
Put the inspire and cappy side by side, look at the screens and tell me they are the same...if you honestly think that, you need to have your eyes checked. Cappy screen is crisper and more brilliant.
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I have two captivates and my inspire . Neither of the two captivates compare to the Inspires screen resolution. But to each his own .
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[Q] New to Inspire 4G from Aria

Just got my new Inspire 4G (at&t). I'm going to root (obviously the stock is unusable) but I am very confused. I'm going to use Ace Hack kit to Root, etc. I keep seeing posts about flashing the Radio as well. Do I need to? I'm in Manhattan with decent reception.
IS there a Dalingrin kernel that works on Inspire? If not, what OC kernel is best?
Also, I'm thinking of using CM7 or LeeDroid. Any pros or cons for either? Must I change the radio with either?
Thanks lads, cheers m8s!
You may need to change your radio if you don't have the 06.06.30 radio and LeeDroid is my favorite sense ROM if I ever go back to sense and cm7 is excellent smooth as butter but I like MIUI better. If you have a chance try it out you won't regret it. And Leedroid sense kernel is the best for sense my opinion and Lord kernel for AOSP is AMAZING
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wpnyc2009 said:
Just got my new Inspire 4G (at&t). I'm going to root (obviously the stock is unusable) but I am very confused. I'm going to use Ace Hack kit to Root, etc. I keep seeing posts about flashing the Radio as well. Do I need to? I'm in Manhattan with decent reception.
IS there a Dalingrin kernel that works on Inspire? If not, what OC kernel is best?
Also, I'm thinking of using CM7 or LeeDroid. Any pros or cons for either? Must I change the radio with either?
Thanks lads, cheers m8s!
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i also came from aria.. i never changed no radio, kept using the same radio that hack kit installs it was running fine but i just recently changed it to new att radio just for the sake of it....not that i needed it...
More often then not you wont need to flash a radio even if the rom says recommended. It's just just that recommended. Stay with the stock radio and see how it preforms.
Welcome.
I came from the Aria too and I think you'll love the Inspire. Since you're coming from Aria then I'm sure you're familiar with ATTN1 and his IRC channel; you won't find a better bunch to help you. Read up on the rooting process. It is more complicated than the Aria, but the payoff is greater in that you get true S-OFF and a wide open platform to experiment on once you're done.
I rooted my first Inspire manually using the cyanogen wiki guide:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=AT&T_Inspire_4G:_Rooting
The hack kit essentially automates this for you, but it doesn't hurt to read over the above guide to get an idea what's going on. Read and re-read the effen manual in the hack kit too. In a nutshell, HTC locked it down pretty good, but the chink in their armor was that it is essentially the same as a DesireHD and with a little trickery, you can get the Inspire to "downgrade" itself to an older DHD ROM that was the basis for all the rooting work done on the DHD way back when. Once "downgraded" the gfree utility frees it up (and really frees it up opening the carrier lock and SIM lock and giving you true S-OFF capability). From there, you can install any of the many ROMs available for this beast and have a ton of fun.
Is the inspire the official aria upgrade phone? Seems like more and more people myself included have come over from that phone. as people have said though the radio thing is up for debate I've switched to the newer at&t one and haven't had any issues but have heard people take both sides on the matter. I have to say for starters such with the one you start with it's always possible to change it latter.
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Rooted last night!!!!
Used the Ace Hack kit. Done and rooted in a few minutes. Awesome work lads! Love 'really' owning my phones.
As for the Aria-to-Inspire upgrades people are doing lots of, my change was necessitated by a facedown drop that smashed my screen into a gajillion pieces.
Cheers m8s!
hungmung said:
Is the inspire the official aria upgrade phone? Seems like more and more people myself included have come over from that phone. as people have said though the radio thing is up for debate I've switched to the newer at&t one and haven't had any issues but have heard people take both sides on the matter. I have to say for starters such with the one you start with it's always possible to change it latter.
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Well, as far as ATT is concerned, its a superior HTC phone. So if your an HTC fan, it would be the natural choice.
Or if you're a disgruntled ex-captivate owner, like me.
Agreed it would be an upgrade from the aria. And from the captivated to in IMHO
It's an upgrade from the LG EXPO as well.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using the power of the dark side.
I must agree it was certainly an upgrade especially since the aria has only just gotten a means to get s-off. Its awesome to have this much control over the phone.
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[Q] a honest Atrix 2 review---solved!!

hey, I'm planning to buy Atrix 2 india. currently own a rooted HTC Legend running in 7.2 RC0
I would like to know (xda) opinion on this phone, things I'm looking for is
- phone overall built quality, voice, battery life?
- android developement with current ICS on this phone?
- any other issues ??
Thanks in advance
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I got my hands on finally to new atrix 2, yes it started with this post
I think the battery life is great, I can go days without charging. The quality is good, feels nice, clear voice, great display.
There's supposed to be an official ICS build in the near future, as far as ports and whatnot, I think there are a few in the works right now, and even one that boots, but the locked bootloader prevents any real progress. (Not 100% about that fact, but I know the bootloader is locked, so flashing roms is a chore.)
I have no issues with my Atrix 2, so in my opinion, it's a pretty decent phone.
I think I'm cursed in the battery department because everyone else seems to have great performancecwhile mine is subpar. It isn't bad, I can get a full day out of it, but by the end I'm around ~20% power. I do use a lot of data, though.
The display is great and very bright, even at its dimmest setting. The OMAP 4 is very fast, and some people have been able to overclock it up to 1.3GHz.
The main problem people havevwith this phone is the locked bootloader which makes AOSP ROM's unworkable right now, and hinders development.
Overall, the community is great, and the phone itself has a lot of potential that we're only scratching the surface of and I love it.
Sent from my MB865 on lfaber06's Superclocked ROM V 5, Update 2!
krisxda said:
hey, I'm planning to buy Atrix 2 india. currently own a rooted HTC Legend running in 7.2 RC0
I would like to know (xda) opinion on this phone, things I'm looking for is
- phone overall built quality, voice, battery life?
- android developement with current ICS on this phone?
- any other issues ??
Thanks in advance
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1. Good, good, good
2. ICS coming 3Q 2012
3. Nope
bookhouseboy23 said:
I think I'm cursed in the battery department because everyone else seems to have great performancecwhile mine is subpar. It isn't bad, I can get a full day out of it, but by the end I'm around ~20% power. I do use a lot of data, though.
The display is great and very bright, even at its dimmest setting. The Tegra 2 is very fast, and some people have been able to overclock it up to 1.3GHz.
The main problem people havevwith this phone is the locked bootloader which makes AOSP ROM's unworkable right now, and hinders development.
Overall, the community is great, and the phone itself has a lot of potential that we're only scratching the surface of and I love it.
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Agree with every word but it's TI OMAP 4430 and not Tegra 2
krisxda said:
hey, I'm planning to buy Atrix 2 india. currently own a rooted HTC Legend running in 7.2 RC0
I would like to know (xda) opinion on this phone, things I'm looking for is
- phone overall built quality, voice, battery life?
- android developement with current ICS on this phone?
- any other issues ??
Thanks in advance
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- good, awesome, excellent
- Q3 2012 https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
- 1 problem: there's no problem with Atrix 2 T^T
Rooting instructions please. I have seen more than one rooting method for this phone here on xda. Will someone please point me to the correct instructions for the Indian Atrix 2. Thanks.
athani said:
Rooting instructions please. I have seen more than one rooting method for this phone here on xda. Will someone please point me to the correct instructions for the Indian Atrix 2. Thanks.
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I used the lazy 1-click in the dev section and works like a charm..
Just look for the thread titled, "Bugs found in Atrix 2." That will give you a general idea of the issues with this phone.
There's also some reported issues with certain class 10 micro-SD cards. Easily avoidable by not buying class 10, but it is there and a real problem that some folks are having. On the plus side of the SD card front though, the Atrix 2 has been reported to work with at least one of the new SDXC super high capacity cards. So that's a good thing.
Another problem, the new version of gingerbread that moto just released has no root exploit, so folks are working around that by downgrading to the older rom using the FXZ files, then rooting, doing and OTA root keeper mod and then doing the OTA update getting the latest official ROMs and keeping their root. It's still possible so it's not really a problem, it is just a lot more convoluted than before to get root.
There's also the custom ROMs that folks here are building. All that said, I really enjoy the phone, and it plays the 3D games that I've downloaded from the market with no issues. Performance seems plenty fast.
krisxda said:
hey, I'm planning to buy Atrix 2 india. currently own a rooted HTC Legend running in 7.2 RC0
I would like to know (xda) opinion on this phone, things I'm looking for is
- phone overall built quality, voice, battery life?
- android developement with current ICS on this phone?
- any other issues ??
Thanks in advance
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If you get this phone you will love it.
-Build quality is very nice, voice call quality is superb, and the battery life is great (especially if you're coming from an HTC phone)
-ICS is due for us in Q3. CM9 is in the works but it's stalled while we wait for a different phone with our same radio to get ICS or for Motorola to push early builds of ICS to their servers for us to intercept
-There is a thread in the general section containing a VERY large amount of issues with this phone. Most of the issues discussed there are NOT phone-wide. Probably the biggest issue I've seen with this phone is that it can be quirky with microSD cards. Many class 10 cards are not fully functional with the A2. Also in the first version of GB we couldn't put apps on the SD card. That has been kind of fixed in the latest GB update but it still is buggy. Contrary to what's said above, there IS a root exploit that will work on our latest version of GB. One thing that you might consider a problem is that its bootloader is locked... this means that we can't flash custom kernels or radios.
Awesome phone. Built well. Very good screen,very good sound, cam quality totally ok. Talking quality very good. Battery life is fine and so far everything is just working flawless here. You will like it. It is definitely one of the best handset you get for that price. :beer:
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cogeary said:
Contrary to what's said above, there IS a root exploit that will work on our latest version of GB.
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Thanks for that correction. I see the FAQ thread has updated links but did not see a new root thread so I missed that update. So that part of my comment is no longer relevant.
Hey Guys, I got my A2 today. The one problem is that the capacitive backlight does not turn on most of the time. Kind of comes on at its whim. Is it a known issue or shall I get a replacement?
athani said:
Hey Guys, I got my A2 today. The one problem is that the capacitive backlight does not turn on most of the time. Kind of comes on at its whim. Is it a known issue or shall I get a replacement?
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Take your free hand and cup the top of the phone making sure to cover the front facing camera. I'm not sure where it is, but somewhere there is a sensor. The capacitor lights should light up in a normally lit room indoors with your hand covering the sensor. Take your hand off and the lights should turn off. This is how my phone behaves. At least that's one test you can run.
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Asmodae said:
Another problem, the new version of gingerbread that moto just released has no root exploit
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Not true. There is a root exploit for 2.3.6, the method u described was only needed the first few days following the release of the update.
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KEB64 said:
Take your free hand and cup the top of the phone making sure to cover the front facing camera. I'm not sure where it is, but somewhere there is a sensor. The capacitor lights should light up in a normally lit room indoors with your hand covering the sensor. Take your hand off and the lights should turn off. This is how my phone behaves. At least that's one test you can run.
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Thanks. I've just discovered that the problem occurs only when the phone is charging on the mains.
A2 is very fast, beauty and WebTop is a very good ideia, Motoblur is sucks!
This phone, A2, is worlds more beautiful than the OGA. It even has the better, to me, GPU. Its slick and smooth with just enough lube......i mean, its awesome. Im a power user and average 18-22 hours between charges. They also took away that PenTile display. Ill hold on to my 150 brand new Craigslist phone till ICS this year.
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It's only my second Android phone, but it's a beauty. Fast, no MotoBlur crap, all the bells and whistles you could ask for. Dropped a 32GB card in it and I'm happy. Some have had problems holding a wifi connection, but mine is solid. A keeper!

[Q] Neutrino or ROM similar to neutrino for atrix 2?

Hey all,
So basically the wifi/Bluetooth hardware has crapped out on this phone and since there's no Atrix 4g anymore they're sending me an Atrix 2 MB865 tomorrow.
Having tried a lot of different ROMs on the 4g my favorite by far is the NEUTRINO ROM ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1398819 ).
I was curious if anyone had also made the switch from the 4g to the 2 and if they can reccomend a comparable ROM. I'll probably have to try what's available and find out for myself, but any guidance is appreciated!
Thanks.
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RebelRom or VictoryRom easy to install debloated, really responsive.
Supercharged V5, excellent Rom, bit more to install. Probably the best as well.
I use VictoryRom because I don't have the patience to install Supercharged.
Waiting for the release of RebelRom stable.
Well I am sure none of this helped!
Really you cannot go wrong with any of them, it's a matter of taste.
ATRIX 2 / Victory Rom
I would say VictoryRom is closest to that. Atrix 4G's bootloader is unlocked right? Atrix 2 is not. So there are workarounds that make installing ROMs a different process.
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Use victory Rom for simplicity and closest to stock
Rebel Rom for a bit tweaked and sony-like launcher
Supercharged Rom for heavy tweaking and slight theming
Blaze Rom for both heavy tweaking and heavy theming
But the rom you wanted is based off cyanogen mod, our bootloader is locked therefore our customizations are limited and cyanogen mod isn't available for the atrix 2 yet.
Thanks for the replies. It is going to be hard not having cyanogenmod...to the point where I may sell the phone and opt for an SGS II for the time being which I hate to say because I love my Atrix .
Are there still folks working on unlocking the bootloader? I read the project cheesecake thread but it seems it's been going on forever with no real progress.
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Some folks are working on CM7 for the Atrix 2 (using the 2nd init method iirc).
Last I heard it was close to testing...
kisnerct said:
Thanks for the replies. It is going to be hard not having cyanogenmod...to the point where I may sell the phone and opt for an SGS II for the time being which I hate to say because I love my Atrix .
Are there still folks working on unlocking the bootloader? I read the project cheesecake thread but it seems it's been going on forever with no real progress.
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People (mainly Jim) are working on a method to get around the bootloader (bypass it) using kexec. It's maybe a couple weeks from being released. And wer're getting ICS sometime in July officially. We'll probably have a leaked version months before allowing us to get CM9 in. SO I HIGHLY RECOMMEND NOT SELLING YOUR PHONE. That is all.
farshad525hou said:
People (mainly Jim) is working on a method to get around the bootloader (bypass it) using kexec. It's maybe a couple weeks from being released. And wer're getting ICS sometime in July officially. We'll probably have a leaked version months before allowing us to get CM9 in. SO I HIGLY RECOMMEND NOT SELLING YOUR PHONE. That is all.
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
Jim is working on bypassing the bootloader and CM7 so you will probably see the two released around the same time.
cogeary said:
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Jim is working on bypassing the bootloader and CM7 so you will probably see the two released around the same time.
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that too
Got the phone, rooted it and not even bothering with a ROM atm, just some tweaks (remove bloatware, deblur, launcher, cpu etc).
Honestly, in just the first day I'm liking this phone a bit more than the Atrix 4g. Phone is snappy, my speedtests are insane (don't know if it's true 4g lte, but I live in Boston and I got about 10mb/s down earlier, 1.5up), and the screen/colors seem a lot better than the 4g but that could just be all in my head due to the slightly larger screen size.
So I'm not gonna jump ship and go SGS II, just going to be patient and wait for the unlocked bootloader

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