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Bluetooth Stereo and Back Speaker Notifications

Hello all,
I did some searches and didn't find a clear answer to this. The phone is an AT&T Tilt reflashed with a HTC based rom. The problem is when bluetooth stereo is enabled, ring/sms tones come out of the bluetooth headset rather than the back speaker on the phone. I have seen suggestions in other forums to uncheck the handsfree profile for the bluetooth heaset, however this does not solve the problem. That merely stops the headset from being able to answer and make phone calls. It has no effect on the ring/sms tones coming out the headset.
If we unselect the stereo bluetooth option, then the ring/sms tones come out the back speaker properly. But then we are unable to listen to music over the headset.
I have not yet tried BTAudio Toggle but plan to later (this is actually my wife's phone so I can't try anything at the moment). But is anyone aware of a solution that will put the notifications on the back speaker and leave other audio over the stereo bluetooth? I came across one post where the person was experiencing exactly this and wanted it switched to the behavior we are experiencing, so I know it's possible. I just don't have any idea how to get it to behave that way.
One odd thing is the alarm clock sounds do come out of the back speaker still. But they are not configured in sounds and notifications.
Thanks in advance for any ideas or suggestions.

UPDATE:
Using BTAudioToggle and setting the audio to the BT headset sends all audio to the headset as expected. Setting the audio back to the back speaker has mixed results. The clock alarms and the ring tone go to the back speaker. All other sounds (all notifications, etc) still go to the BT stereo headset.
I spent about an hour searching through the registry for anything that might fix this and was unable to find anything.
Does anyone have any other suggestions?

somethingwitty said:
UPDATE:
Using BTAudioToggle and setting the audio to the BT headset sends all audio to the headset as expected. Setting the audio back to the back speaker has mixed results. The clock alarms and the ring tone go to the back speaker. All other sounds (all notifications, etc) still go to the BT stereo headset.
I spent about an hour searching through the registry for anything that might fix this and was unable to find anything.
Does anyone have any other suggestions?
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You now have what would be considered "proper" default behavior. The high priority sounds (phone call & alarms) will come across the speaker and everything else (music, email/sms/mms notification) will come over Bluetooth.
This is due to the following:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\*]
"Speaker"=dword:1
You'll notice that [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring] and [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Alarm] both have this value. Simply add the value to other sound types you wish to be duplicated on the speaker.
Cheers,

Quentin- said:
You now have what would be considered "proper" default behavior. The high priority sounds (phone call & alarms) will come across the speaker and everything else (music, email/sms/mms notification) will come over Bluetooth.
This is due to the following:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\*]
"Speaker"=dword:1
You'll notice that [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring] and [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Alarm] both have this value. Simply add the value to other sound types you wish to be duplicated on the speaker.
Cheers,
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Thanks so much for your reply!
Do you know what category applies to SMS notifications or notifications in general?
I saw a reference to a "Notification" category so I created the key and added "Speaker"=dword:1 to it but this did not solve the problem. Did a soft reset to make sure it wasn't a setting that was only read at boot up.
The other sound categories listed don't appear to apply to SMS notifications or notifications in general. So although what you are saying clearly is correct, I'm still not finding the proper keys and values to add to set this the way we would prefer.
Again, thanks for your reply and thanks in advance for any further assistance.

Never mind. I was able to solve it. I added two other dword values to the "Notification" category, did a soft reset and it worked.
The added values were:
"AttenuationCategory"=dword:2
"InitVol"=dword:3
Both were copied from the "Ring" sound category.
Thanks so much for your help!

Same problem
I've got the same problem and was not able to solve it with help from the previous replys in this thread. Any idea how to get the SMS ring tones from the speaker of the phone rather than from the bluetooth handsfree set?
/ Loloson

where do you copy these new values
I don't understand where these values should be copied to make the notifications work as I would like them to. Could you be more specific.

AudioPara_.csv file -- columns of adjustments

Does anyone know what the different parameters in the columns adjust in the AudioPara_.csv file? Seems like this file, if tweaked properly can fix several sound issues. Some seem fairly obvious but others not.
There also seems to be some kind of compression/limiting going on, loud noises in the receiver will bring volume too far down and then I can barely hear the other person. HTC is probably protecting the tiny speakers, but it seems it's not adjusted properly. Sometimes even first outgoing ring is nice and loud, but the next is soft. Go figure!
This is also true for the outgoing mic. I have had some people say it's too loud from my phone. Sometimes I can even hear my own background noise loud through my earpiece, similar to the mic sensitivity thread. If I talk fairly loud then sometimes the overall volume drops, including my receiver, regardless of the microphone AGC setting.
With recording there seems to be some control from the AGC enable switch setting, but even when it's turned off, there is some sort of limiting. I've tried a few different audio programs to record and they respond similar. The gain controls offered in these programs don't seem to do much. Recording music easily clips the sound! The AudioPara file has controls for CE_REC_INC_MIC and CE_REC_EXT_MIC, which seem like this might control some of this. Again there are many columns of adjustments.
Seems like this file can fix a lot, but it would be beneficial to have a better understanding before blindly trying this and that as many have. Does anyone know where to get replacement speakers if we blow one from the wrong settings? Please share any knowledge you have about these settings and suggestions of where to find out more. It seems like more than just gain and volume that needs adjustment.
Thanks!

Low Volume on G1 Speaker

Have you noticed the extremely low volume of the G1 speaker. i can bearly hear the audio whever i play mp3 or video files. Even the phone ringing is relatevly low compared to any phone i have ever owened!!!
Is there a way to alter the hardware setting and get higher volume out the speaker???

Seems fine to me, doesnt seem too low, mayb its the mp3 ur using. I raise the volume of my files with itunes, but even the default sounds on the G1 seem fine.

shobbow said:
Have you noticed the extremely low volume of the G1 speaker. i can bearly hear the audio whever i play mp3 or video files. Even the phone ringing is relatevly low compared to any phone i have ever owened!!!
Is there a way to alter the hardware setting and get higher volume out the speaker???
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Yeah, adjust music/video volume using the keys on the side of the phone while playing a song.
I'm sure you already did that so.... there's a program called volume control that let's you adjust every volume setting the phone offers. Also, my speaker has never been that loud anyways but that program helps a bit.

Any one of you guys know where i can but a new speaker phone peace/thing for the G1. I blew mines out with the volume hack. -.- Thanks in advance.

I've noticed the low volume on Cyanogen's ROM, but on every hero ROM I've tried it seems MUCH louder.

I've noticed it too, but I've always used Meltus' AudioHack app to correct that problem.

The only thing I noticed on the G1 that is weak would be the vibrate. That is pretty weak.

My phone started doing this before donut was out. I was using Xrom, and thought it was the rom causing it. I'm running Dwang 1.13 now, and discovered that my issue is being caused by T-Mobile's Visual Voicemail apk. The speaker would work great until I opened VV. The VV apk, routes the media sounds through the headset speaker, like when holding the phone to your ear in a phone call, but it doesn't always re-route the media sounds (and ringer for that matter) back to the loud speaker. There is a hack/apk/widget out to fix it, claiming it to be a cupcake issue, but I only had it happened to me after using VV.
To figure out if you have the same issue, block the loud speaker with your finger and play a song. If it gets louder when you remove your finger from covering the loud speaker, then you have a different issue. If it stays the same volume, block and unblock the headset speaker to see if it changes.

MT3G Fix
shobbow said:
Have you noticed the extremely low volume of the G1 speaker. i can bearly hear the audio whever i play mp3 or video files. Even the phone ringing is relatevly low compared to any phone i have ever owened!!!
Is there a way to alter the hardware setting and get higher volume out the speaker???
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If you are running MT3G/Magic You can also try this on the G1 to see if you get better sound
CM's system usually doesn't add the MT3G Sound XML
Download and run this: http://drop.io/tfwtv3d/asset/volmt3g-signed-zip
If this doesn't help, use this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517745

i had this more then one , dont know for sure bit this is after i did a switchrom, a simple reboot is a fix
shobbow said:
Have you noticed the extremely low volume of the G1 speaker. i can bearly hear the audio whever i play mp3 or video files. Even the phone ringing is relatevly low compared to any phone i have ever owened!!!
Is there a way to alter the hardware setting and get higher volume out the speaker???
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I always cup my hand under the phone when watching videos, it boosts the volume a bit

dclaw_fantum said:
My phone started doing this before donut was out. I was using Xrom, and thought it was the rom causing it. I'm running Dwang 1.13 now, and discovered that my issue is being caused by T-Mobile's Visual Voicemail apk. The speaker would work great until I opened VV. The VV apk, routes the media sounds through the headset speaker, like when holding the phone to your ear in a phone call, but it doesn't always re-route the media sounds (and ringer for that matter) back to the loud speaker. There is a hack/apk/widget out to fix it, claiming it to be a cupcake issue, but I only had it happened to me after using VV.
To figure out if you have the same issue, block the loud speaker with your finger and play a song. If it gets louder when you remove your finger from covering the loud speaker, then you have a different issue. If it stays the same volume, block and unblock the headset speaker to see if it changes.
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This problem is really annoying, can someone post a link to the fix for me, I haven't been able to find it.

This also happend to my phone. Started with the last stable before the whole google thing with cyan. Tried a hero rom and it was pounden out sound.
So if anyone does have any insight on how to fix this, with reasoning, that would be nice. No "i did this and reset and it just worked" stuff.
Thanks

Also wish my G1 would be louder when a phonecall came in. My older HTC Juno was extremely loud which I prefer because Im not where my phone is 100 percent of the time.
I would also greatly appreciate some insight on how to make the speaker louder with some tweaks and or apps.
Thanks in advance.

legend221 said:
Also wish my G1 would be louder when a phonecall came in. My older HTC Juno was extremely loud which I prefer because Im not where my phone is 100 percent of the time.
I would also greatly appreciate some insight on how to make the speaker louder with some tweaks and or apps.
Thanks in advance.
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Use Meltus' audio hack, it makes the phone really loud. I suggest using g7-6r2

Aye, that should do it
Also, for people experiencing routing problems, my files might also fix that too.
The G7 files included fixes so that they would run on the Cupcake/Donut/Hero/Sapphire. It might fix it, i'm not promising anything though

Meltus said:
Aye, that should do it
Also, for people experiencing routing problems, my files might also fix that too.
The G7 files included fixes so that they would run on the Cupcake/Donut/Hero/Sapphire. It might fix it, i'm not promising anything though
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+1 If your G1 is quiet download Audio Hack from the market and it will not be quiet anymore. People tell me all the time, "dude your phone is ridiculously loud". I love it..

Meltus' app is amazing, i used to hate when i went to show everyone a video from youtube and you cant hear nothing when your out in public. Def recommend it to anyone who thinks their speaker is low.

Meltus Audio Hack.
Your welcome.

My G1 speaker is terrible!
The other end hears constant echo, and it's very soft for me to hear anything.

[Q] Low Microphone volume

Hello
I noticed my Moto G LTE microphone volume is pretty low in Whatsapp, Recording apps and in calls. Other devices are much louder and clear (I tested against the SGS2 and SGS3) anyone facing this problem too or is my device broken?
I found using the QCATest app that the DEAFULT MIC (one used for all the mentioned above) has vey low volume but none background noise, PRIMARY MIC on the other hand, has little background noise but much better volume. I guess it's a software issue regarding the background voice cancellation mechanism? can anyone confirm this?

Not a single comment?
Please let me know if you have this problem or not. I don't know If I should contact Motorola and get my device replaced.
Thanks

A friend of mine is reporting a similar problem on calls - callers claim they can't hear well. I'm trying to figure out what is going on.

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No one noticed the low volume compered to other phones?
Please post your feedback

CJMom said:
Hello
I noticed my Moto G LTE microphone volume is pretty low in Whatsapp, Recording apps and in calls. Other devices are much louder and clear (I tested against the SGS2 and SGS3) anyone facing this problem too or is my device broken?
I found using the QCATest app that the DEAFULT MIC (one used for all the mentioned above) has vey low volume but none background noise, PRIMARY MIC on the other hand, has little background noise but much better volume. I guess it's a software issue regarding the background voice cancellation mechanism? can anyone confirm this?
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If you have a scratch guard them try removing it.
If it's not the problem, contact Motorola.

Meuuks13 said:
If you have a scratch guard them try removing it.
If it's not the problem, contact Motorola.
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I only have a tempered glass which doesn't cover the mic hole.
I tried contact Motorola via their forums, no luck yet. I can try to send the device for "repair" but the waiting time will be too long (I don't have official support from Motorola in my country) and with problems like this, they might just send the device back to me claiming there is no problem at all.
I already found few people with this problem too but not a straight answer on this.

If Cm11, try bass boost
CJMom said:
Hello
I noticed my Moto G LTE microphone volume is pretty low in Whatsapp, Recording apps and in calls. Other devices are much louder and clear (I tested against the SGS2 and SGS3) anyone facing this problem too or is my device broken?
I found using the QCATest app that the DEAFULT MIC (one used for all the mentioned above) has vey low volume but none background noise, PRIMARY MIC on the other hand, has little background noise but much better volume. I guess it's a software issue regarding the background voice cancellation mechanism? can anyone confirm this?
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If you're using CM11, try enabling bass boost in the DSP settings.

MiyagiSan said:
If you're using CM11, try enabling bass boost in the DSP settings.
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I'm using stock rom 4.4.4 no root
I guess I should replace my phone as no one is seems to be having this issue.
Edit: If someone can post a sample recording from a supposedly normal device for me to compare I would appreciate this very much. Thanks

Can anyone actually point a recording app that they using and works good with the Moto G (as you can put your phone in the desk and speak at normal level and being able to hear ok)?

No one have a word on this? Although I found that the volume in the camera recording is much better it's still very far behind basically any other phone.

I have the same problem only apps that works fine is when I'm recording on Vine, but Instagram, the Camera App, Snapchat all have very very low mic volumes

Low mic incall!

So when in call the microphone is very low and the other party can barely hear you even when volume is maxed but when switched to speakerphone works perfectly.. I've seen online it's a common problem for the s7.. Anybody have similar experience or a fix? And installing various sound mods didn't help either

do you use voWifi?

No I don't..