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Hi, been away from the forum, as i have just got back from holiday
i am having a prblem with my desire.. i went to florida, left my phone at the theme parks, desire s, zte blade, ipod touch in the car for 8 hours in around 30-40 degrees. since then, my desire s has been faulty.
my touch, and zte work fine, but my desire has a major problem now. it works normal in use, but when i lock it and put it into sleep mode, when i try to unlock it , it will start up the whole phone again. basically, it powers off on its on randomly in sleep mode.
The problem is really annoying. it is also very common on the desire hd..
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sour...360GB360&q=htc+desire+hd+randomly+turning+off
Im running leedroid port from dhd. i thought the rom was the problem, but it isnt. i flashed other roms, hydrogen, but the problem still exists. shoud i test the stock unrooted ROM?
i dont think it is a software fault anyweay. the phone was working fine for 2 weeks running leedroid, then suddenly i have the problem now.
i have emailed htc, and awating a reply now. so will i need to get it repaired? or replaced as a faulty unit?
Hmm.....does sound like the heat has done it in....damn!
Although there are plenty of other countries where the temp is close to this all the time, you would have thought....
Try installing close to stock ROM with no apps installed, (Yes perform wipe). I'd suggest installing battery moniotr widget and get iot to log full details (including apps), force log in sleep mode so that you can at least see when it dies and what temp it's at when it does and what apps are running at the time.
Although does sound like warranty return issue (at least this way you get a new motherboard and possibly even a new device)...(you might want to check the recommended running temp levels in the warranty book first - just so that you get your story straight)
Positive note: at least its still functioning so that you can re-install RUU etc and mask S-OFF before returning it?
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Mines done this a couple of time over the last few months...although I always figured that I've hit the buttons in my pocket?
ben_pyett said:
Hmm.....does sound like the heat has done it in....damn!
Although there are plenty of other countries where the temp is close to this all the time, you would have thought....
Try installing close to stock ROM with no apps installed, (Yes perform wipe). I'd suggest installing battery moniotr widget and get iot to log full details (including apps), force log in sleep mode so that you can at least see when it dies and what temp it's at when it does and what apps are running at the time.
Although does sound like warranty return issue (at least this way you get a new motherboard and possibly even a new device)...(you might want to check the recommended running temp levels in the warranty book first - just so that you get your story straight)
Positive note: at least its still functioning so that you can re-install RUU etc and mask S-OFF before returning it?
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Mines done this a couple of time over the last few months...although I always figured that I've hit the buttons in my pocket?
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Cheers Ben! Love how your always here to help!
I'll try installing battery monitor widget , and go back to stock, s-on
So do you think it was the heat that damaged the phone? My ipod touch and zte blade were left in the car, but they work 100% fine
I've checked the warranty thingy, it says do not expose battery to 60 degrees or higher.
But to be honest, I dot really know how hot it could get in the car... Florida is very hot!
I'm just waiting for a reply from HTC now
The phone works fine everywhere else, its just this problem.. I tried cooling the phone by switching it off and taking the battery out, and leaving it for an hour.
The thing with this problem, is that it is entirely random! It sometimes last ages in standby before the problems occur, or within 10 minutes.
How can I prove it to HTC??
I wouldn't worry too much about your phone doing the same once in a few months or so
Mine is happening at least 6 times a day!!
I'll try to keep the thread updated to how it all goes
Cheers Ben
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olyloh6696 said:
Cheers Ben! Love how your always here to help!
I'll try installing battery monitor widget , and go back to stock, s-on
So do you think it was the heat that damaged the phone? My ipod touch and zte blade were left in the car, but they work 100% fine
I've checked the warranty thingy, it says do not expose battery to 60 degrees or higher.
But to be honest, I dot really know how hot it could get in the car... Florida is very hot!
I'm just waiting for a reply from HTC now
The phone works fine everywhere else, its just this problem.. I tried cooling the phone by switching it off and taking the battery out, and leaving it for an hour.
The thing with this problem, is that it is entirely random! It sometimes last ages in standby before the problems occur, or within 10 minutes.
How can I prove it to HTC??
I wouldn't worry too much about your phone doing the same once in a few months or so
Mine is happening at least 6 times a day!!
I'll try to keep the thread updated to how it all goes
Cheers Ben
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Hello,
Could have been the heat, but could simply be a faulty motherboard....either way a new device might be a good thing, 1/2 way through your warranty period.
Don't know how hot it gets in cars in Florida....but I know that it can kill pets let alone phones!
Cheers, not worried about my phone, just trying to relate that's all
You're just going to be have to forcefull in your email and exaggerate...even
best of luck
ben_pyett said:
Hello,
Could have been the heat, but could simply be a faulty motherboard....either way a new device might be a good thing, 1/2 way through your warranty period.
Don't know how hot it gets in cars in Florida....but I know that it can kill pets let alone phones!
Cheers, not worried about my phone, just trying to relate that's all
You're just going to be have to forcefull in your email and exaggerate...even
best of luck
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Yeh thanks I think it must be the heat that damaged the phone; it was working perfectly before for the last 3weeks!
My phone is just a month old now
Hopefully they just send me a new phone
I tried to act pleading in the email, but I did not mention anythig about leavig it in heat or the car. I just said it keeps crashing on me...
Hopefully I get a reply soon tommorow!
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Though my phone was not left anywhere where temp was extreme, mine is also doing this since this week,, Also a few months old and I blame the apps installed . I ahd battery monitor and suspected just that prog..
I have not yet gone to a clean rom yet but selectively remove apps till I find improvement....
Meaning there are others with the same problem !
olyloh6696 said:
Hi, been away from the forum, as i have just got back from holiday
i am having a prblem with my desire.. i went to florida, left my phone at the theme parks, desire s, zte blade, ipod touch in the car for 8 hours in around 30-40 degrees. since then, my desire s has been faulty.
my touch, and zte work fine, but my desire has a major problem now. it works normal in use, but when i lock it and put it into sleep mode, when i try to unlock it , it will start up the whole phone again. basically, it powers off on its on randomly in sleep mode.
The problem is really annoying. it is also very common on the desire hd..
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sour...360GB360&q=htc+desire+hd+randomly+turning+off
Im running leedroid port from dhd. i thought the rom was the problem, but it isnt. i flashed other roms, hydrogen, but the problem still exists. shoud i test the stock unrooted ROM?
i dont think it is a software fault anyweay. the phone was working fine for 2 weeks running leedroid, then suddenly i have the problem now.
i have emailed htc, and awating a reply now. so will i need to get it repaired? or replaced as a faulty unit?
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A2Z said:
Though my phone was not left anywhere where temp was extreme, mine is also doing this since this week,, Also a few months old and I blame the apps installed . I ahd battery monitor and suspected just that prog..
I have not yet gone to a clean rom yet but selectively remove apps till I find improvement....
Meaning there are others with the same problem !
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Yeh, some of them have the same problem after a couple if weeks old (not exposed to heat or anything) what causes this problem?
How often do u have this problem??
My old Nokia 5230 has the same problem
Mine has the same problem and has never been exposed to extreme heat. I think the power button is faulty and after some use it get stuck some times and closes the phone down. I started pressing the button with less force and the random power downs stopped happening.
What happened? I have not found a relationship yet. It seems random too me so far. If it happens once more i will go to factory default plain htc stock rom (i have not fiddled with the device or rom)
If it then happens as well i know enough. I will see and report me experience in due time.
Btw its android 2.3.3 build 1.47.401.4
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A2Z said:
What happened? I have not found a relationship yet. It seems random too me so far. If it happens once more i will go to factory default plain htc stock rom (i have not fiddled with the device or rom)
If it then happens as well i know enough. I will see and report me experience in due time.
Btw its android 2.3.3 build 1.47.401.4
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To be honest, I think its more of a hardware problem!
My phone was running fine on stock and custom roms for 3 weeks, then it just started last week when I left my phone in the car
A lot if desire hd users had the same issue as us!
I'm awaiting a reply from HTC now
Will update on what they say.
the heat probably was the culprit
my phone reaches around 45c at times due to the high outside temperature here,but i don't have any problems so i guess yours was heated more
but if you can, try changing the battery it may help
Random shutdown
I also suffered from this. A new Radio + ROM + cleaning some apps has solved the problem.
Thanks for the replies everyone!
I received the following e-mail of HTC today:
Dear Oliver Loh,
Thank you for contacting HTC regarding your HTC Device.
I understand that you are currently experiencing difficulties with rebooting and random restarts.
I believe that the reason for this is because of a hardware issue.
In order to rectify this I would like you to perform the following actions:
) Make sure your device is fully up to date:
Menu - settings - about phone - system software update - tick box - check now.
) If possible test the device with or without a (new) battery, SIM, SD card.
To assist you further I have attached links to the HTC Support Site which will enable you to work through the above step by step:
http://www.htc.com/uk/support.aspx
Once the above has been completed you may be required to do a factory reset, for your convenience I have detailed the steps below:
) Restarting or factory resetting your phone:
Restarting your phone (soft reset):
If your phone is running slower than normal, an application is not performing properly, or your phone becomes unresponsive, try restarting your phone and see if that helps solve the problem.
Please remove the battery, wait for a few seconds, reinsert the battery, and then turn the phone on.
Performing a factory reset (hard reset):
Note: Factory reset will not remove the data and files that are in your phone’s microSD card.
Factory reset is not a step to be taken lightly. It will permanently delete all your data and customized settings, and will also remove any applications you've downloaded and installed. Be sure to back up any data and files you want to keep before you do a factory reset.
Performing a factory reset via settings
Performing a factory reset using phone buttons:
If you cannot turn on your phone or access the phone settings, you can still perform a factory reset by using the buttons on the phone.
1. With the phone turned off, press and hold the VOLUME DOWN button, and then briefly press the POWER button.
2. Wait for the screen with the three Android images to appear, and then release the VOLUME DOWN button..
3. Press VOLUME DOWN to select CLEAR STORAGE or (Factory Reset), and then press POWER.
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And today i can confirm the problem has occured 8 times today. Now it can do the problem up to 3 times in a row, when the device is in use.
It happened this morning 3 times, 2 in the afternoon, and as i am typing now, i just booted into recovery and the phone crashed on me twice at the recovery screen.
I will reply to HTC and tell them i have the stock rom etc, and will s-on my device and send it for repair soon hopefully
So what's your uptime since you changed??
rotem said:
I also suffered from this. A new Radio + ROM + cleaning some apps has solved the problem.
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If the problem persists through multiple ROMs, it definitely sounds like a hardware problem. I'd return it to stock and have it sent in for repair under warranty.
Haven't read all replies... but this is a well-known battery fault (and isn't necessarily triggered by either heat or humidity... it is most commonly a manufacturing defect).
My very first HTC Desire S handset had almost exactly the same issue, only the battery from that handset would power off the phone only when the GSM picked up a signal (I.E.... you get reception, but the phone kills itself instantly. No reception, phone ran fine).
O2 replaced the entire thing under warranty (but I sneakily kept the battery to prove my theory). I placed that battery into my replacement handset, and behold.... EXACTLY the same thing!
Put the new battery in, everything works perfectly.
Bottom line: don't replace the phone, just replace the battery!
LaKraven said:
Haven't read all replies... but this is a well-known battery fault (and isn't necessarily triggered by either heat or humidity... it is most commonly a manufacturing defect).
My very first HTC Desire S handset had almost exactly the same issue, only the battery from that handset would power off the phone only when the GSM picked up a signal (I.E.... you get reception, but the phone kills itself instantly. No reception, phone ran fine).
O2 replaced the entire thing under warranty (but I sneakily kept the battery to prove my theory). I placed that battery into my replacement handset, and behold.... EXACTLY the same thing!
Put the new battery in, everything works perfectly.
Bottom line: don't replace the phone, just replace the battery!
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Hmm.. it does make a bit more sense that the heat could have affected the battery rather than the phone itself.
The battery is probably unable to run under low power that is used when put in sleep mode so it just cuts itself out altogether.
My hypothesis...
i have the exact problem!!
i thought i was the only one... mine turns off at least 3-4 times a day for no apparent reason.
at first, i thought it was the heat during the summer.. but now that the temperature is getting milder i dont really think thats the cause.
sometimes when i place it on the desk and i tap it or just bump it hard enough it'll turn off.
i think its more of a hardware problem then software.
Julzx said:
i have the exact problem!!
i thought i was the only one... mine turns off at least 3-4 times a day for no apparent reason.
at first, i thought it was the heat during the summer.. but now that the temperature is getting milder i dont really think thats the cause.
sometimes when i place it on the desk and i tap it or just bump it hard enough it'll turn off.
i think its more of a hardware problem then software.
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That's sounds like a bad battery connection, I'd take it back under warranty {if possible} as the chance of a fried eMMC chip must be high!
Hi all. Since updating to 2.3.5 my screen randomly lights up. The phone will be just sitting on the table, next to bed etc and the screen will light up for a few seconds and the turn off.
Not been on a stock ROM in a while, but I do remember hearing about this problem when the update rolled out. Just can’t remember if the problem was solved. Had a quick search and no joy. I'll keep looking. I have a theory though...
I had this problem once, and it was down to an app and the WiFi sleep policy. The WiFi sleep policy was set to ’15 minutes’ so the app was occasionally forcing a wake-lock to stop the WiFi from shutting off. This would also cause the screen to come on briefly. Could it be something like that? Sorry I can’t remember what the app was. Try leaving WiFi off and see if that stops it. If not successful try leaving auto-sync off. It will at least rule out or confirm something trying to force a wake-lock to sync something.
Edit: Does this do it only when on charge? Try opening up Car Dock Mode, and turning off 'Auto Launch'.
wnp_79 said:
Not been on a stock ROM in a while, but I do remember hearing about this problem when the update rolled out. Just can’t remember if the problem was solved. Had a quick search and no joy. I'll keep looking. I have a theory though...
I had this problem once, and it was down to an app and the WiFi sleep policy. The WiFi sleep policy was set to ’15 minutes’ so the app was occasionally forcing a wake-lock to stop the WiFi from shutting off. This would also cause the screen to come on briefly. Could it be something like that? Sorry I can’t remember what the app was. Try leaving WiFi off and see if that stops it. If not successful try leaving auto-sync off. It will at least rule out or confirm something trying to force a wake-lock to sync something.
Edit: Does this do it only when on charge? Try opening up Car Dock Mode, and turning off 'Auto Launch'.
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thanx for the answer friend.i ll try it.
efialtis1971 said:
Hi all. Since updating to 2.3.5 my screen randomly lights up. The phone will be just sitting on the table, next to bed etc and the screen will light up for a few seconds and the turn off.
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I noticed this too, but only on a Sense 3.5 ROM...Endymion (because, frankly, i didn't care much about any other Sense ROM to stay on it long enough to notice anything) ...but for me, the screen only lit up like a camera flash, just for a fraction of a second! not for a couple of seonds as you have experienced. Been on ICS betas, and RCs and currently on Reaper, but this issue never repeated itself. So far, this has happened to me only on a Sense 3.5 ROM...and my setup, sync frequency, installed apps hardly ever varies from ROM to ROM...I'm pretty consistent about how i like to use my phone.
And frankly, even when this was happening, i didn't bother much because it wasn't affecting performance or battery life... Sense is quirky, to say the least, but i've learnt to tolerate it like you would a sexy girlfriend. If it's sexy enough, it can get away with anything!!
I had this issue on the stock 2.3.3 ROM.
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I can confirm that issue, like enigmaamit described it. I'm on endy 3.4. Weird...
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I had the same issue but just one time few minutes after i pluged my phone .
Same here with MIUI... Just for a 1/10 of a second...
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I get this on ICS (virtuos quattro) when screen is off and charging, like half a second on and off again...
i've had this issue with pretty much every ROM, actually had it since i've had the phone. The phone lights up for a quick second. Enough for you to realise when your eyes are closed. i don't pay much attention to it anymore. But i don't think mine lasts seconds like yours. Mine was just a blank screen flashing
dan-fish said:
i've had this issue with pretty much every ROM, actually had it since i've had the phone. The phone lights up for a quick second. Enough for you to realise when your eyes are closed. i don't pay much attention to it anymore. But i don't think mine lasts seconds like yours. Mine was just a blank screen flashing
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Hmm I think I'm only one but I gess not. It flash for like 0,1-0.2 sec. Just a little bit and I have seen it only in night when room is dark but I'd you don't motivated hardline to see. Flash is low light with blank screen
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Hi all
Sometimes, my Atrix 2 will just freeze when the screen is off, and obviously won't come back on until the battery is pulled and reinserted. (draining it at the same time). It seems to have happened the most when airplane mode was turned on.
I'm afraid all this battery pulling will make the cover loose.
Does it happen with anyone of you?
thanks
EDIT: I'm on 2.3.6 stock, non root.
thenext1 said:
Hi all
Sometimes, my Atrix 2 will just freeze when the screen is off, and obviously won't come back on until the battery is pulled and reinserted. (draining it at the same time). It seems to have happened the most when airplane mode was turned on.
I'm afraid all this battery pulling will make the cover loose.
Does it happen with anyone of you?
thanks
EDIT: I'm on 2.3.6 stock, non root.
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I have never experienced such a problem... So it just freezes while it sleeping? I have one idea but it's kind of stupid, there is an option under display, that says lock in pocket. Try unchecking that, I've had other people tell me that their phone freezes up afterwards...
You might have to do a warranty exchange.
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You might have to do a warranty exchange.
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I've written "drain" but it's not much of a drain - from 100 to 60% in a whole night. A true drain would be with the phone going from full to empty in a couple hours and getting very hot in the process.
I think the phone locks up for some reason during sleep and the cpu never goes into low power mode. As far as I can remember, this has happened only when it was bedtime, with the phone already put in airplane mode, and never in the long standby hours of the day while I work.
I hope this has something to do with software, and not hardware.
(A warranty replacement is out of question, as I'm not from the US...)
I'll try posting in the motorola forum, too.
100-60 overnight is a bit on the high side for drain if you are not using the phone. I would do a warranty swap.
thenext1 said:
I've written "drain" but it's not much of a drain - from 100 to 60% in a whole night. A true drain would be with the phone going from full to empty in a couple hours and getting very hot in the process.
I think the phone locks up for some reason during sleep and the cpu never goes into low power mode. As far as I can remember, this has happened only when it was bedtime, with the phone already put in airplane mode, and never in the long standby hours of the day while I work.
I hope this has something to do with software, and not hardware.
(A warranty replacement is out of question, as I'm not from the US...)
I'll try posting in the motorola forum, too.
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It's probably something to do with the CPU govener. Try rooting, install bootstrap, then flashing the deodexed version of 2.3.6 found here. Just be sure to flash as a backup by placing it in \sdcard\clockworkmod\backup\. Select restore in clockwork and it should be there.
See if that gets rid of the problem You don't mid rooting right
Yes I mind rooting! Sorry!
I was just seeking for your experience, to know if you did by chance notice this behaviour/glitch... you keep telling me to do an exchange but it's obvious it's not an option for me, as you can see from the flag under my user name. Otherwise I would have got me a new atrix already. (Because of other minor annoyances)
I once had an acer liquid that started getting nuclear-fusion-hot and discharged in 2 hours each time, without the software taking a hit. Now that was hardware related.
As to my atrix2, I am sure it's not hardware related, because it happens only sometimes and in certain circumstances. One time, I turned it off and back on 5 secs after and it was already frozen. No way, we're not talking of hardware fault here.
Thats major drain overnight! I leave my phone on overnight and generally get about 1% drain per hour.
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WTF, either I can't speak my mind, or you don't read my posts!
It's not that I get a 40% drain every night. In fact I got it only once, last night, when I decided to leave the phone in deep coma after I found it unresponsive after just a few minutes it was turned off and in airplane mode (the time of brushing teeth and coming back to bed, FYI). In that circumstance I got the 40% drain, but otherwise i get a normal 5% drain like yours.
This thread is not on the battery drain, but on finding what causes the phone freezing while screen-off.
Thank you.
I have never heard of this happening on the A2.
When the phone freezes up, does it get hot at all? It's possible that your problem is hardware-related, but the only way to be sure of that is to make sure that it's not software-related...
It may possibly be one of the apps that you're using. If you're OK with it, then I highly recommend to begin with a hard reset. I write down all of the apps that I know I will need and then I reinstall them after the reset, then if I realize I need to use an app I don't have I install it.
Another thing to try is flashing the fxz. This will clear every single bit of data on your phone and reinstall stock 2.3.4. Then you can update to 2.3.6 and gradually regain your (necessary) apps as with the hard reset.
Sounds kinda like these reported bugs below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21817704&postcount=36
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21819590&postcount=37
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WTF, either I can't speak my mind, or you don't read my posts!
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You must not be able to communicate your thoughts very well then cause the post I responded to didn't make any mention of the fact it only happened once. And your first post said it happens "sometimes", meaning more than once. Sorry guy, i'm not a mind reader.
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I've written "drain" but it's not much of a drain - from 100 to 60% in a whole night.
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This thread is not on the battery drain, but on finding what causes the phone freezing while screen-off.
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I know what the thread is about, but you chose to share your experience with the battery draining issue not only in the first post but also in the once I quoted above which led me to believe this thread was about that as well so that's what I chose to respond to.
Thanks
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Sounds kinda like these reported bugs below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21817704&postcount=36
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21819590&postcount=37
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Yeah, sounds like that. What did you do to overcome it?
Do you use airplane mode at all?
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You must not be able to communicate your thoughts very well then cause the post I responded to didn't make any mention of the fact it only happened once. And your first post said it happens "sometimes", meaning more than once. Sorry guy, i'm not a mind reader.
I know what the thread is about, but you chose to share your experience with the battery draining issue not only in the first post but also in the once I quoted above which led me to believe this thread was about that as well so that's what I chose to respond to.
Thanks
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I think I made sufficiently clear that the draining was secondary to the freezing issue, and, in turn, that the freezing issue happened only sometimes... which, in my (surely flawed) understanding, is more often not the case than it is.
Anyways no problem man!
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Yeah, sounds like that. What did you do to overcome it?
Do you use airplane mode at all?
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Not sure what fixed it. I have done a couple things since then.
1.) Rooted <- not sure how this could fix a problem like this.
2.) Froze several apps with Titanium Backup. <- This one makes the most sense.
I never use airplane mode.
The other user (dk-v1) says that his softkey lights come on while the screen stays black.
I don't remember about the lights, probably one time they turned on, but don't remember right now.
About the black screen, I'm not sure what he means, but mine stays black and with backlight off.
From reading the OP...I would suspect that it could be an app that is trying to sync while in airplane mode. I would try troubleshooting (uninstalling one by one to see if the problem goes away) apps that sync, preferably the ones you installed. But if it still persists do a factory reset and start over. Good luck man!!!
my wife actually started having this problem with her inspire recently. I tracked it down to the no led app she was using. deleted it and everything has been fine since. so your issues could most definitely be app related.
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I think I made sufficiently clear that the draining was secondary to the freezing issue, and, in turn, that the freezing issue happened only sometimes... which, in my (surely flawed) understanding, is more often not the case than it is.
Anyways no problem man!
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I never said it was the primary issue......u said this thread wasnt about the draining issue, but since u brought it up in your op and subsequent posts its clear it was an issue so when somebody responds to one of the issues you're having, don't be a douchebag about it by saying "thats not what this thread is about". Trying to insult me by insenuating I don't read before I respond is no way to show appreciation for my attempt at helping you. It seemed you were under the impression that a 40% discharge overnight wasnt a major drain so I shared with you my experience thinking it would put yours into perspective.
But apparently explaining my thought process and posting your own quotes for you to see how/why I'd think what I thought isnt enough to knock you off your high horse so I'm over it, carry on. If you feel the need to respond any further you can pm me, no sense cluttering the thread any further.
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Hi everyone,
I'm experiencing really wierd behaviour with my HTC Desire S. I'll try to tell the story as it happened, so you may have the best grasp on what's happening to me. Here's the thing: yesterday, I charged my HTC on the wall plug as almost every night (y'all know how it is with smartphones, always needing to be charged ). When I unplugged it on the morining, the green LED stayed on. Not cool. I can't really remember if it was turned on and stuck or already turned off at that time, but I had to reboot the phone. Okay, that can happen, phones have to reboot sometimes.
And then, it did not boot. Instead, it was stuck on the bootscreen. I looked around on the internets, but people seemed to have boot loops or devices stuck after the "quietly briliant" part. Actually, mine was stuck before that part. It didn't even play the funny sound and show the fancy animation: it was stuck on the blank screen with only the HTC logo.
I tried many things, like praying pagan gods and removing the battery, let it cool for a while, boot and wait to see what happens for more than 30 minutes, boot it while plugged on the wall plug... I think I was about to get to the "I'll have to make a factory reset, then" line when I tried to see what dmesg would tell me if I plugged the phone on my computer. Note to self: always try to plug to computer. It did boot completely. The victory dance was almost completed when I was invited to enter my PIN code. My touchscreen did not respond. Damn.
So I had to reboot. Again had to remove the battery (I don't like that, but what choice do I have?). Now it always boots completely (that's a good start), but my touch screen seems completely unresponsive. I can't access anything, can't enter my PIN code or unlock the phone when there's no SIM.
That's where this forum comes in: I've not given up. You see, my phone has USB debugging activated (yeah I know, the thread's title spoiled all the story). I'm pretty sure this means adb can help me in some way to troubleshoot my device. adb shell gives a nice UNIX-like shell, yay, that is relevant to my interests.
My phone has never been rooted. I've looked into it (that's why USB debuging was activated), but I wasn't 100% confident it would work, so I gave up before ending up bricking my phone (duh, too late, haha). It's running the last Gingerbread version distributed by HTC in Belgium (2.3.5, I think, without any certainty), with the last Sense version related (could it be 3.0.3?).
tl;dr: Unrooted phone with unresponsive touch screen, debugging mode enabled, trying to find what's wrong.
So here's what I'd like to know: is there any way to try to force start my touch screen with the help of adb? Where's the related log, the one that should display the error(s) that occur(s)? Should Bill Murray play in the next Batman? If root is needed, do I have a way to use a temproot exploit in order to fix my phone once and for all?
Any attempt to help will be greatly appreciated. This is my first post here, I hope it's clear enough, and not too nooby for you guys. Also, that I didn't break any rule (I watched/lauged at that video about noobs to xda). Btw, I'm quite confortable with UNIX shells, so don't avoid cli-related answers if that may happen to be helpful. Also, I'm not at home right now, but I'll follow this thread with a lot of interest anyways. I'm back on a regular connection next sunday.
Have a nice day! And sorry for the long post (but believe me, I'm even more sorry to admit I can't investigate further on my own, now that is frustrating).
Okay, I'm back.
It makes no sense. I let my phone on for a few days, then suddenly, probably out of boredom removed the battery, put it back and rebooted. I distractingly tried to unlock it… and it worked.
I have absolutely no single clue on what happened. And I'm still quite concerned, because this means it can happen again without any warning.
I'm gonna give a shot at HTC's support in order to ask them what I can do to locate the problem if there are traces. I'd really, really like to read all the logs (and logcat didn't show anything interesting).
If anyone has a suggestion, feel free to shoot it. I'll try to keep this thread updated in case someone has the same problem.
Duh, just got an anwser from HTC's support. Totally useless, they told me to try to reboot in Safe Mode in order to see if the problem happens again. Well, even in normal mode it has not failed for two days. GJ, guys.
I'm really willing to meddle in my system in order to see what could have gone wrong. I'd especially like to see if there is any way to see whether there are HW faults or not, since I'm suspecting a temporary TS chip failure, which can happen again at any moment. I'll be reading some documentation about Android's system and its logs.
Yeah, I know I'm talking a lot alone, but if someone ever has the same problem, he might be able to see what I've gone through, so I'm documenting as much as possible. =)
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Hey guys, kinda run into a problem i have never had with my billions of android phones. Yesterday i ran into a problem when i was coming home from school, My wifi nor bluetooth could turn on, when i hit the button to turn either on, it stays on the "On" switch for a good 5 seconds. my moto x 2013 (4.4.4) was kinda also running hot and the battery drained super fast that day (Also My facebook messenger app used 150mb that day, i only Recived one message without responding :V), i let it sit on charge for maybe an hour and i was able to turn the stuff back on eventually, now today its happened once again and makes my Smart watch useless when there's no Bluetooth :v Any help? i have read that it might be a modem problem and all i would need to do is flash one but im on stock not rooted :v verizon 4.4.4 cant be rooted at this moment.
i think i might have solved it, i saw in another thread that recently they are having the problems as well and i have seemed to maybe fix my problem with what they did, if you have some sort of flashlight app, Delete it and reboot, my bluetooth and wifi was about to be used again, ill report back to see if it happens again.
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i think i might have solved it, i saw in another thread that recently they are having the problems as well and i have seemed to maybe fix my problem with what they did, if you have some sort of flashlight app, Delete it and reboot, my bluetooth and wifi was about to be used again, ill report back to see if it happens again.
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in mos cases i've encountered, its some battery or connectivity manager that's the root cause. in other cases, its just a lagging device thing. You can read how to fix an Android phone whose WI-FI or Bluetooth wont turn on for more insigt on the causes of this issue
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in mos cases i've encountered, its some battery or connectivity manager that's the root cause. in other cases, its just a lagging device thing. You can read how to fix an Android phone whose WI-FI or Bluetooth wont turn on for more insigt on the causes of this issue
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Yeah at noon today I got the problem again, I'll check your thread