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Hi,
im searchin for a new mobile... i wanted to buy it in the next 2 or 3 weeks, but there is a big problem:
i dunno what mobile would be the best for me :S
I am thinking about Windows mobile and Android ... The windows mobile phones i have used till now are quite nice, but no one really made me fully happy ... i always tried to port other interfaces and so on my lg ks20 and htc diamond.
i´ve seen that android has a quite nice interface with very good touch friendly options...
my windows mobile candidate would be of course the HTC Leo , what the android canditate would be is just open till now ...
I often browse in Wifi networks , like facebook, gmail, icq, etc. and therefor i am searching for an mobile with good browsing quality ... what camera there is ... i dont care about that crap ... just being comfortable in networks , chatting , sharing files and so on...
Hope you can help me ..
else any questions ? just post, i will directly answer.
See ya
Sallal
//EDIT: I saw now some androids and i think nexus one and desire are very good but , what is the difference between them ?
Hi,
In term of memory management Windows mobile is far way better and for the interface also you have a lot of ui for windows mobile that are now very close to the Android style that you are searching for(if not even better).
I first bought an HTC Hero and was very happy the first two months but then it became so boring because of that lack of programs for it.
Now I am on a Leo and I can assure you that the moment you will put this device in your hand,you will be impressed by his speed.
Hurry up before the HD3
what about the htc desire ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T4gEQKThsg
this video impressed me
Sense La Révolution for Windows Mobiles SPB Mobile Shell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKzIT5DhUZA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QydHxYziKwY
Here it is in a nutshell,
Android is the new kid on the block, rough around the edges, not fully functional yet, short on apps, in dire need of updates, but with the genuine potential to be an actual iPhone killer ( hence Apple vs HTC suit solely filed to slow down Android ). Android is on it's way, but not going to be great until, after whatever Android phone you buy now, is old and tired.
Windows Mobile is tried and true, tons of free apps, full bluetooth functionality, full Exchange and Office functionality, easy to sync, fully customizable to your needs, but it is what it is and will not get any better. Whatever you buy now, will not be upgradeable to Windows Phone 7 Series, and WP7S would appear to be that " make it or break it " for
Windows Mobile.
In short ? Android = up and coming, but not quite there yet. Windows Mobile = Already mature, but could be on the down slide soon.
If you are living for today, Windows Mobile hands down. Come this fall ? Phones with Android 3.0 ? Windows Phone 7 Series ? Who knows.
The Nexus One is Googles Android device made by HTC, The Desire " was " the Droid Eris, but has since been reassigned to the HTC branded Nexus One.
@die_Leuchte: Danke für die videos, ich hab mich entschieden / Thanks for the Videos , now ive decided what to take
@denco7: i know it is a nutshell, but if i see what android showed on mwc for example, it seems that it has millions of apps and is just now the iphone killer ^^
just crap what they are sayin ?
sallal said:
@die_Leuchte: Danke für die videos, ich hab mich entschieden / Thanks for the Videos , now ive decided what to take
@denco7: i know it is a nutshell, but if i see what android showed on mwc for example, it seems that it has millions of apps and is just now the iphone killer ^^
just crap what they are sayin ?
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http://phandroid.com/2009/11/23/android-vs-windows-mobile/
Add to that limited Bluetooth capabilities and ( important to me ) limited M$ Exchange and Office capabilities it just isn't mature enough yet to be a serious multitasking phone for business.
Don't get me wrong, I think Android is the future of Mobile OS' . WP7s is going to have to do a lot to convince me otherwise. And I am leaning towards an Android phone after Android 3.0 and WP7s come out, just from what I have seen of Android 1.5, 1.6, 2.0 and 2.1 on the Nexus, I just still don't think that it is capable yet.
so you think that if you would buy a smartphone now, you would choose winmo...
if you could buy it in 2 years , you would choose maybe android ... right?
Do not be fooled by a shiny interface just like I was.Besides what you are seeing on an Android phone is the Sense UI made by HTC.
If I am not wrong the Nexus one doesn't have the Sense UI.
I am not telling that Android(in reality Linux) is not a good phone.On the contrary you will find it with very useful applications but in some cases just like what happened to me you will not have a wide range of choice for the same application.
For Ex:If you want a Virtual Keyboard,because Android is still new you will have only 2 or 3 keyboards(maybe there is more now) to choose from but on Windows Mobile you have more than 15 competitors to choose from with years of experience in that field .
So,
Android is for you if you can be satisfied with what you have.
Windows is for you if you are thirsty of applications
Hope this helped
thirsty guy
well, i always need to get more apps to have another quit unuseful thing on my mobile, like wifi router or so
then i take the leo ^^
EDIT: @forcefield: i recieved an email , that swype for android is out your problem is solved now
Here is a quote from another german forum
there is no "better" one, some like winmo and some android more ...
before i buyed my new phone i thinked about the hd2 and the milestone... i choosed the milestone and i dont regret nothing !
looking at the amount of apps i would choose android because its just much easier and uncomplicated .. with more apps than windows mobile.
i dont know whats the difference between the desire and the nexus one , but you can wait until they get on the german market to see more information..
pointing on the battery strength maybe its disapointing but i have to be honest, its normally just between 1 and 3 days depending on how you use your phone.
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i still think that windows mobile has more apps.. but the problem is , they are just widespread in the www.
battery: an issue what wont be solved in 500 years.
Original Post from http://www.handy-faq.de/forum/handyberatung/128679-suche_gutes_browsing_handy.html
Sry for the bad translation, it is freely made by me ^^
another question ... i you would have the choice between touch pro 2 aka rhodium and hd 2 aka leo , which one would you take ?
with reasons please =) ...
sallal
I'm suprised that no one has brought this up, but, if you got a Windows phone, don't you always have the option of running Android on it? I don't think it works the other way around. Please, PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.
jadesdan said:
I'm suprised that no one has brought this up, but, if you got a Windows phone, don't you always have the option of running Android on it? I don't think it works the other way around. Please, PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.
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Android proted to WM is still a port. It runs within WM and some of the features of Android don't work and some of the features of the phone won't work with the Android port. It will never be as fast or as smooth as Android running natively.
sallal said:
another question ... i you would have the choice between touch pro 2 aka rhodium and hd 2 aka leo , which one would you take ?
with reasons please =) ...
sallal
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I would take the Leo, faster processor, bigger more beautiful display, more ram. The only plus for the Rhodium is the slide out keyboard.
But just remember that neither phone is going to be upgradable to Windows Phone 7 Series.
of course take the LEO!!!
I own Touch Diamond 2 (which is basically like TP2 without the slide out keyboard) and it's really great and everything. But then I also have access to Samsung Omnia II with 800 Mhz CPU and it's running so much faster and more smoothy. And the big display is insane!! Then go figure because HD2 even comes with 1 GHz!!!! IMO it would be stupid to buy the OLD TP2 with only 528 Mhz.....
jadesdan said:
I'm suprised that no one has brought this up, but, if you got a Windows phone, don't you always have the option of running Android on it? I don't think it works the other way around. Please, PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.
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No, there's no fully working Android version for any WM phone. They all have bugs and stuff not working.
Hi all...
Can anyone offer suggestions here?
I have an N900 (with 48GB of memory)... I used to own an HD2 but sold it as it had a dead pixel and that kind of thing bugs me.
I am in the situation where I can swap my N900 for a nice new HD2.
What to do? What will be better long term, Win7Phone ROMs coming to HD2? MeeGo to N900?
I love the browsing abilities of the N900, but lack of notifications and apps designed for the native screen size.
I love the HUGE screen on the HD2, like the slim design, but it lacks the built in memory, so would need to buy a 32GB microSD when it comes out. Is there a Spotify client?
Looking to do the deal tomorrow so your thoughts would be appreciated.
Paul.
you can use myspot as a spotify client on the HD2 and is so so so so much faster with it's 1GHz processor.
Zac.Santer said:
you can use myspot as a spotify client on the HD2 and is so so so so much faster with it's 1GHz processor.
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OK sounds good... I'm guessing it wouldn't be as "pretty" as the official Android and iPhone apps?
And is it free?
Of course Leo!!
WM OS above any Nokia OS
how about a desire?...with same/better specs than hd2,more friendly OS and android 2.2 coming (which is by the way 2-5 times faster than the current version) i personally think those two don't stand a chance...
and of course nokia sucks...imo
edit: oh sorry i missed the sentence when you said that only those two are on table....i personally don't prefer nokia at all,especially not over htc...especially the one with that caliber
HD2 if only for the capacitive screen.
Stick with HTC and gain all the valued info of XDA
Flip a coin
Heads = HD2
tails = HD2
easy
nosh10 said:
Flip a coin
Heads = HD2
tails = HD2
easy
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lol just buy an hd2 if you have the money.
Stuck with the N900.
I couldn't sacrifice the drop in storage as I carry all my music on my device, along with movies and audiobooks with space to spare.
TheMathMan said:
Stuck with the N900.
I couldn't sacrifice the drop in storage as I carry all my music on my device, along with movies and audiobooks with space to spare.
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your choice
tell us if it's good
TheMathMan said:
Stuck with the N900.
I couldn't sacrifice the drop in storage as I carry all my music on my device, along with movies and audiobooks with space to spare.
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my heart broke a little
marduk79 said:
my heart broke a little
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I'm sorry marduk.
But how can I play all my music and videos without compromise on the move with an HD2?
N900 if u want/expect for MeeGo. N900 wins too in Games, don´t in number but in potential. What is means? Now with PR 1.2, n900 uses the QT 4.6, the same as the new Symbian ^3. So, for developers its easy port games that make in Symbian to Maemo. For now it´s promise 10 games, so far but when N8 comes may be this number goes high. Android comes (by community) to N900, as well its possible (better at the moment than HTC HD2).
HTC HD2, if u want a big and capacitive screen and the possibility to put a lot of ROMs on it, to turns your experience more personal. But WinMO doesn´t provide nothing to use this hardware... And MS, does **** with WinMO 7 so, for me it´s a very bad business.
If u need help with Maemo i´m here, u are don´t alone.
Thanks viperbruno.
I think I'll be a lot more happy when they actually relaunch the OVI store for the N900 with Angry Birds and Zen Bound etc... This was meant to happen yesterday but still waiting!!
I guess I just miss the gorgeous display and the joy of watching videos and reading texts on the HD2. I wish they made 32+GB microSD cards.
OK... back on the idea of changing my N900 to an HD2 / Nexus One. That is my current option.
What are your thoughts on if / when Windows Phone 7 or Android coming to the HD2 versus MeeGo coming to the N900?
TheMathMan said:
OK... back on the idea of changing my N900 to an HD2 / Nexus One. That is my current option.
What are your thoughts on if / when Windows Phone 7 or Android coming to the HD2 versus MeeGo coming to the N900?
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Official what coming:
HTC HD2 - nothing
Nokia n900 - Meego as well (September the final version, beta at July) but without any support from Nokia. Better that nothing.
Unofficial:
HTC HD2 - XDA could make WinMO 7 for with but don't expect a lot from it, it's just my opinion...
Nokia N900 - Could be everything and nothing at the same time, but I have see on Internet that Nokia will turn off Symbian from nseries, and put Meego on it, so I think that is possible to expect a lot from it. To know: Nokia N8 is the last model (from nseries) with Symbian.
My suggestion: Wait a little. HTC will realise new "Pro" models - rumor: a HTC HD2 pro edition - Nokia haves something to say in Augustus (with Symbian ^3 and QT 4.6, it turns easy to port apps to Maemo)...
The purpose of this thread is to discuss the possibilities of getting Android up and running on the HD Mini.
A word to the wise…porting Android is NOT easy, it took almost 1 year to get an (almost) fully working port for the HTC Touch Pro, and there were a LOT of really good Linux developers spending TONS of time on it. (The preceding sentence was paraphrased from this post by TheDeadCpu.)
***There have been many threads opened on this topic…and most of them have been merged with this thread. So let’s keep the discussion located on THIS thread…new threads opened on this topic will be closed, deleted or merged without warning. Let me know if new threads pop up by sending me a PM or using the report post icon in the top right of the post ….thanks!
2/13/2011 Big News: Android / Linux port for PHOTON by Cotulla
Thanks to Cotulla for getting the ball rolling!
eh, it´s a new Phone, u sold some...days...weeks...ago..?!?!?! WTF u didn´t buy a android phone if u like one?
Gosh, maybe he wanted a HDmini sized phone and now he wants to get Android s/ware. Get people skills an stop hating
francomok421 said:
Any method can install android for HTC HD mini WM phone?
Thanks a lot!
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Me to!! Can't live with what's in the HD Mini, but most certainy I can live with the hardware. Anybody knowing how to androidize it?
I bought HD mini due to the outlook, size and weight!
Legend have poor taste and the shape is not good to store in pocket.
Frankly, WM is more easy to copy and edit the Word/Excel files from PC and I can check some files out of office easily.
And I just seek for any solutions for multi-boot with Android OS as Android looks better and I just want to try it and need not to buy another phone.
Cos I have one iPhone already, too many mobile phones~
When the evo rom arrives, it will be ported to hd2. I find it logical that it will be a android powered hd mini in the future. Then, it would be rather easier than now to create a custom android rom for hd mini But I should stick to reality.
The dual boot app for winmo devices isn't written for hd minis hvga resolution.
But hey, the diamond 2 or touch pro 2 does not have a android twin to take a rom from. I will put up a request for hd mini support for the android dual boot app.
The hd mini would have been a great android device!
Sorry for bad English.
Thanks gingerviking! I agree that the hardware is made for Android rather than wm6.5. I cross my finger for a rapid solution - WM is just not for me anymore..
Good news is that a genious has managed to get the linux bootloader to work on hd2 and playing a 720p video. An Android port will soon come to hd2 even without the evo rom
Hopefully the kernel system on hd2 isn`t all that different from the hd mini
Well. We're all looking forward to see a genious hacker who cares about the hd mini and android. =)
Don't know if it will work but you guys could give it a try cause it runs via haret:
w w w _dot_ neopeek.com/en/stories/android/75-update-android-fuer-htc-blackstone-diamond-tilt-raphael-rhodium-topaz-fuze
@XDA-Mods: after months of waiting! when will you update my account?
Anything else besides android that you guys might want??? how about some cookies along with it? lol if you wanted android why did you bought a windows mobile based device?? cause of haret? if you want android on your hd2 mini, yould need a working linux kernel, then you can worry about android, and its not that easy im not going over this again im tired of explaining to noobs that android is not a a program that you can simply install...it dosnt work that way.
rafyvitto said:
Anything else besides android that you guys might want???
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Android would be just enough
ATT HTC ARIA -- a dead ringer for HD MINI but with ANDROID?
Does this mean an android rom won't be too far off?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/htc-aria-goes-official-for-atandt-gets-toyed-with-on-video/
nickel911 said:
Does this mean an android rom won't be too far off?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/htc-aria-goes-official-for-atandt-gets-toyed-with-on-video/
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No , them are different
Want android for hd mini , we need use Haret, not just port rom aria to hd mini
haret for hd photon exist ?
SoftWord said:
haret for hd photon exist ?
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Not yet i think, but i will get my touch in it soon
This week a bit busy
Tom
core of haret is a file called setup.txt where are stored parameters with rom/ram addresses, only thing to do is know this addresses.........
I hate you. Htc!
I have great news for all you people living in the US: Like the evo 4g with sprint(android version of hd2). At&t have released the htc aria, a true android clone of the hd mini. Just google it for more info.
Yes and, unfortunately for us, HTC Aria will be, and nowadays is, available only for USA market...
I want it in Italy!!!!!! Or maybe... someone which could "do" a complete Android ROM for the HD Mini, based on the Aria!?!?!? I wish it! I really want it...!
Because HD Mini is so pocketlly beautiful!!!!
its a company fault
we have went to market to get it and it was WM and now they have released HD Mini with Anderiod ,
so it is who's fault,
i hope anyone can give info how to get the rom of android for our hd mini (old) one
hi guys,
I'd like to know if it possible because I've been using my Xperia x1 for about a year and i think it's time for a change but when I checked all the available phones I got confused a little.
it seems like Windows phone 7 looks great but in a review i saw somewhere it says that it lacks some important features such as:
No Bluetooth file transfers
No USB mass storage mode
No multitasking
No copy/paste
No Flash or Silverlight support in the web browser
No DivX/XviD video support
No internet tethering support
Swapping memory card requires hard reset; cards not readable by computer
and Android has great features but IMO I think WinMo gives more freedom in the terms of using or hacking
and as a WinMo 6.5 user I find it a great OS with all the features needed and if there some feature I want that is not already offered it's available here on XDA-Dev either as a .cab or cooked in a ROM
So the Main Question: if I buy a Sonyericsson (X10 maybe) or a HTC with a 1 GHz Processor will I be able to install any OS of them as a ROM???
Thanx in advance.
The only device capable of running WP7 is the hTC Leo and it has actually working Android and some working on Ubuntu and Maemo as well.
not any other device will be capable to do so
Thanx for reply
So the HD2/Leo is able to handle all 3 OSs
but i have more questions please
how is the HD2 up to date regarding the specs? like the RAM, ROM, and processor
can there be 2 OSs in the same time and to be able to switch between them?
and does android 2.2 froyo work 100% i mean with everything working??
thanx again
ahmedsalem89 said:
it seems like Windows phone 7 looks great
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I'm intreagued, what about the duplo phone looks great to you?
The basic HD2 specs are up to date on paper (RAM, ROM, processor) and even beat some newer phones but dig deep and you'll see the latest version of the chips are better. Android 2.2 is running perfectly but WP7 is still work in progress.
It's more than a year old but still the best phone EVER.
samizad said:
The basic HD2 specs are up to date on paper (RAM, ROM, processor) and even beat some newer phones but dig deep and you'll see the latest version of the chips are better. Android 2.2 is running perfectly but WP7 is still work in progress.
It's more than a year old but still the best phone EVER.
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Well, it's clear now that the HD2 is one of the best phones out there as it's capable of handling nearly the 3 OSs, Thanx for ur help
Any chance for Desire to use WP7 too?
I would be great if it is possible.
I wanna try WP7 too.
Hey,
Why is there no android version for the N8?
Could anyone create it? There is enough animo for it.
If i read some forums I see that some people want it. Why not?
Also it has the best mobile camera in the world.
If someone can run android on it it would be the best device ever. (I think)
I could find an answer on this forum. But I think this is already changed.
(That there isn't enough animo for it. But there is!)
I'm also a newb in this world. But I like android and the compatibility that the most devices already have with it.
Kevin
I dont know if its that simple. I dont rly know if the android suitable for N8, anyway would be nice to have it (even though that i have HD2, which i think that is much better than N8.) If its possible, my friends will have android too! xD
indeed!
I think an android developer must buy an n8.. that he can see it's a wonderfull device.
And then create android for it.
Not all phones are like hd2, where you can have different os
Sent from HTC HD2 with Android
Not all people wants a HD2
you are not alone my friend!
I too wish the N8 had Android.
It is a much better device than the HD2, screen size isn't everything.
coldest~~~ said:
Not all phones are like hd2, where you can have different os
Sent from HTC HD2 with Android
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anything is possible, it just takes time.
and in the HD2's favor, it had hardware that was common across different platforms.
plus a big userbase
Isnt the N8 nokia soft based on Debian? couldn't drivers be ported my friend has this device and yes the camera is amazing on it
I thougt it was only meego and maemo wich is debian based?
i was thinking to get a nokia n8 untill ive found out that nokia had very low quality development for that new symbian version, and that they moved torwards windows mobile... i never liked windows mobile and since they were not going for android i said whats the point, on paper the nokia n8 is amazing, but it has some problems aswell, for example the cpu is only 625mhz, while its arguably enough to run android, im not entirely sure it has all the instruction sets compatible with it, emulation is out of the question too, the android code would have to be natively changed to work for it, and then there had to be the matter of games, they also had to be coded properly for that specific gpu,cpu and sound chip, accelerometer and so on.
So thats why ppl dont usually port phones to android, its a mess to code and most of the drivers they have to code them from scratch.
TheWarKeeper said:
i was thinking to get a nokia n8 untill ive found out that nokia had very low quality development for that new symbian version, and that they moved torwards windows mobile... i never liked windows mobile and since they were not going for android i said whats the point, on paper the nokia n8 is amazing, but it has some problems aswell, for example the cpu is only 625mhz, while its arguably enough to run android, im not entirely sure it has all the instruction sets compatible with it, emulation is out of the question too, the android code would have to be natively changed to work for it, and then there had to be the matter of games, they also had to be coded properly for that specific gpu,cpu and sound chip, accelerometer and so on.
So thats why ppl dont usually port phones to android, its a mess to code and most of the drivers they have to code them from scratch.
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The CPU is official build for 750mhz. So it can run faster.. Also i heard that the new version of android (3.0?) has hardware acceleration for the UI. So the GPU can be used for it.
cpu for android need nore juice and ram.
battery life will be hunger for more to join android.
nokia seem battery effective device.low power consumption
under18 said:
cpu for android need nore juice and ram.
battery life will be hunger for more to join android.
nokia seem battery effective device.low power consumption
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Why?
The HTC ChaCha and Salsa has a 600 mhz processor... And still Android runs on it.
Indeed the ram is littlebit low 256 mb...
Chacha is 800Mhz, 512 of ram..
yeah i wish that someone would find a way to port android to n8 i recently got one and dont like symbian os, any way i'll keep on searching if no luck, guess i have to get an android phone
Edit: forgot to say i had a sony ericsson x8 which had 600 Mhz processor and 256mb ram and i was even able to run android 4.0 on it dunno why n8 would not run on this device
The question is why port android to N8? The N8 is a wonderful device as is. If you have an N8 you probably bought it for it's camera prowess. Bonus: you get a very long battery life (compared to droids). Now if you want to port android on it then it will become power hungry and will be full of glitches since it has poor dev support. Also, you wouldn't want a slow droid. 600mhz for a droid is quite slow, and as stated, the RAM is low. You're better off buying an affordable Galaxy Y. Believe me it's quite fast, if you can live with it's low res screen.
Cheers,
Cezar
kevinwalter said:
Hey,
Why is there no android version for the N8?
Could anyone create it? There is enough animo for it.
If i read some forums I see that some people want it. Why not?
Also it has the best mobile camera in the world.
If someone can run android on it it would be the best device ever. (I think)
I could find an answer on this forum. But I think this is already changed.
(That there isn't enough animo for it. But there is!)
I'm also a newb in this world. But I like android and the compatibility that the most devices already have with it.
Kevin
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it's not possible to port Android or any other OS to symbian phones because of locked bootloaders by Nokia
Nokia n9 is running meego OS which is with unlocked bootloaders and that's why this phone can have dual boot or just one OS like Android 4.x.x ICS
I want it too
I have an Nokia N8 too and i would love to run android on it.
So if there is any way to install android on it....
I also have nokia n8, it was really a great phone,hi quality build, superb. And I fine with symbian^3 but what bothering me was that the nokia apps store is getting useless. I need BBM and can't find any.