I have often wondered why more mouse driven games of the Atari ST and Amiga days have not been cloned yet.
A populous clone would be amazing, and would work so well on a touch screen device.
I know it could be emulated, but it would be pretty bad.
Someone would make a fortune if they released something like this!
anybody made a fortune on pocketpc games yet ?
dident think it was a big market which was why all the big companys were not lining up
have an amiga emulator but never bothered getting it to work
and not sure how well the mouse would be emulated
OK, well maybe not a fortune, but something like that would certainly be very popular, and could easily be licensed and ported rather than creating it again :/
I tried it once on the Sega Genesis emulator on an old iPaq, but it wasn't very good.
we're seeing official apps for everything else, but what about a playstation network app? theres apps to support googles gtalk and google's youtube why not a playstation network app? i really dont care the xbox integration since i have a ps3
That would depend on if MS wants to support a rival gaming platform. Possibly, if they wanted to draw more people into the phone and thus the ecosystem, picking up new xboxers along the way.
Possibly not if the benefits/profit/new users versus the detriments are not heavily weighted toward the beneficial side. But many who own the PS3 also have an Xbox. I, personally, have neither. But, if I ever bought one, it'd be an Xbox. I'm just not gonna pay $500-$600 for a video game console (PS3).
I don't think there is anything stopping someone from creating an app but as far as native support I believe there is no chance in hell it's going to happen. This is about ecosystems and Microsoft has their own.
Eventually as WP7 gains traction Sony will have to address it with some type of App. I wouldn't expect gaming integration with PS3 because XBL is deeply rooted in.
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That would depend on if MS wants to support a rival gaming platform. Possibly, if they wanted to draw more people into the phone and thus the ecosystem, picking up new xboxers along the way.
Possibly not if the benefits/profit/new users versus the detriments are not heavily weighted toward the beneficial side. But many who own the PS3 also have an Xbox. I, personally, have neither. But, if I ever bought one, it'd be an Xbox. I'm just not gonna pay $500-$600 for a video game console (PS3).
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I think he meant the PlayStation Suite App, just like the one for iPhone/iPod Touch and Android. The only thing the app does is let you see who's online and what are they playing, some news, blogs, and media stuff.
It depends on either Sony and Microsoft whether they should build an app for WP7, but the PS Suite app you see on iPod/iPhones doesn't let you play PS games, its rather like a social app, so Sony might develop one for WP7 and Microsoft might approve it as well since it will less likely/have no affect on gaming on WP7.
Just think of it as the IGN app on WP7.
Let's see:
PSXperia works substituting ZPAKs and APKs from the preloaded Crash Bandicoot ones. The resulting emulator seems to work with some games better than others. However, we're left hanging because we would need updates from Sony, which is unwilling to make them.
I've thought of something: we DO have an open source PSX emulator ported to Android. Would it be possible/desirable to somehow combine the two projects, so that we load things in the PSXPeria way and yet we get to have a more compatible emulator than what the official thing from Sony is?
I was thinking the same the other day.... you would think that the best solution would be a hybrid of the native emulator with another PSX android project.
as the native psx emulator is not open source, we have no source code to combine with another emulator
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PSXperia works substituting ZPAKs and APKs from the preloaded Crash Bandicoot ones. The resulting emulator seems to work with some games better than others. However, we're left hanging because we would need updates from Sony, which is unwilling to make them.
I've thought of something: we DO have an open source PSX emulator ported to Android. Would it be possible/desirable to somehow combine the two projects, so that we load things in the PSXPeria way and yet we get to have a more compatible emulator than what the official thing from Sony is?
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When this project was first announced, the question was: Can it be a better emulator than FPSE, which is quite honestly an amazing piece of software. It plays almost every single game, and at 90%+ speed, with small issues here and there.
The hypothetical answer was yes, because crash bandicoot plays SO amazingly well (it really does, it looks sexy too), its a superior psx emulator. But, unfortunately, we have found that Sony crafted their emulator on a GAME-BY-GAME basis...and therefore the emulator is actually a piece of sh*t lol (the sound seems to be the only thing that is absolutely superior)
I say we just move on. FPSE serves the purpose of playing psx games on xperia QUITE WELL. and is CONSTANTLY IMPROVING.
Now, if n64oid could just get itself up to par...
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When this project was first announced, the question was: Can it be a better emulator than FPSE, which is quite honestly an amazing piece of software. It plays almost every single game, and at 90%+ speed, with small issues here and there.
The hypothetical answer was yes, because crash bandicoot plays SO amazingly well (it really does, it looks sexy too), its a superior psx emulator. But, unfortunately, we have found that Sony crafted their emulator on a GAME-BY-GAME basis...and therefore the emulator is actually a piece of sh*t lol (the sound seems to be the only thing that is absolutely superior)
I say we just move on. FPSE serves the purpose of playing psx games on xperia QUITE WELL. and is CONSTANTLY IMPROVING.
Now, if n64oid could just get itself up to par...
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I find it a stretch to call the Emulator a piece of sh*t when firstly the games it does run right it runs almost perfectly, and second it was never intended to be used as something to inject any PS iso into. I would bet money that the devs at Sony who have access to the source code probably fix the emulator for whatever game they want to run in less than a day and can have it out on the market. In fact for all we know they are readying a huge library of games for the launch of the PS Suite. And once its fixed for the game it not only runs great it looks better than ever.
I'd say the emulator is a nice little feat of programming, its not the emulators fault we are using it not as intended.
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I find it a stretch to call the Emulator a piece of sh*t when firstly the games it does run right it runs almost perfectly, and second it was never intended to be used as something to inject any PS iso into. I would bet money that the devs at Sony who have access to the source code probably fix the emulator for whatever game they want to run in less than a day and can have it out on the market. In fact for all we know they are readying a huge library of games for the launch of the PS Suite. And once its fixed for the game it not only runs great it looks better than ever.
I'd say the emulator is a nice little feat of programming, its not the emulators fault we are using it not as intended.
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From what i can make out ..... each version of the emulator has it's own compatibiliy list
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When this project was first announced, the question was: Can it be a better emulator than FPSE, which is quite honestly an amazing piece of software. It plays almost every single game, and at 90%+ speed, with small issues here and there.
The hypothetical answer was yes, because crash bandicoot plays SO amazingly well (it really does, it looks sexy too), its a superior psx emulator. But, unfortunately, we have found that Sony crafted their emulator on a GAME-BY-GAME basis...and therefore the emulator is actually a piece of sh*t lol (the sound seems to be the only thing that is absolutely superior)
I say we just move on. FPSE serves the purpose of playing psx games on xperia QUITE WELL. and is CONSTANTLY IMPROVING.
Now, if n64oid could just get itself up to par...
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With all due respect, I don't know why you constantly put down the native emulator in various threads regarding PSXperia and hold up fpse so highly. While I admit the native emulator is not as good as we all hoped, it stills runs a good amount of games (and even more with software rendering) and doesn't cost money. Also, who gives you the right to say "let's move on". Again, no offense, but I think the person who has the most say about the project would be the developer, aka me (and I also have my doubts about the project's life but for another reason). I know you mean no harm in your words, but I take it personally that you think the project is a waste of time.
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From what i can make out ..... each version of the emulator has it's own compatibiliy list
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I've said that I "think" that's what it is. But now, I'm not so sure because I've been pointed out that some of the games listed does not work well. I think it's more of a index than a list of optimized games.
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......... (and I also have my doubts about the project's life but for another reason). .......
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Why is that, do you believe Sony is going to "plug the hole" that allows this to work?
The fact that half the people who promised to pay the bounty have not walked the talk doesn't really encourage more effort. That is a factor.
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The fact that half the people who promised to pay the bounty have not walked the talk doesn't really encourage more effort. That is a factor.
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Too bad there isn't a reliable way to do an escrow account. Would require a lot of trust and oversight though.
Dyelon said:
When this project was first announced, the question was: Can it be a better emulator than FPSE, which is quite honestly an amazing piece of software. It plays almost every single game, and at 90%+ speed, with small issues here and there.
The hypothetical answer was yes, because crash bandicoot plays SO amazingly well (it really does, it looks sexy too), its a superior psx emulator. But, unfortunately, we have found that Sony crafted their emulator on a GAME-BY-GAME basis...and therefore the emulator is actually a piece of sh*t lol (the sound seems to be the only thing that is absolutely superior)
I say we just move on. FPSE serves the purpose of playing psx games on xperia QUITE WELL. and is CONSTANTLY IMPROVING.
Now, if n64oid could just get itself up to par...
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You are ACTUALLY the FPSE poster boy.
The native emulator is not **** and if it could be modeled to play any game it would be leaps and bounds ahead of any emulator on the market.
I don't know about you but most of my favorite games run perfectly on the emulator and what wasn't working before does now with the software rendering.
I believe this project is still live as testing goes ahead my only concern about the project dying is Sony actually blocking that version of the emulator from their phones.
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I believe this project is still live as testing goes ahead my only concern about the project dying is Sony actually blocking that version of the emulator from their phones.
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Sony are stupid tbh.
The Xperia Play obviously has the capability to run PS1 and PSP Games very well.
If they made a PS1 and PSP emulator and had around 50 ports of the best games on each system, the Xperia Play would be flying off the shelves.
But they didn't. Now the community is left to develop this most basic thing for themselves, and Sony blocks it from happening meaning phone sales aren't as high as they could be.
Gay. Gay. Gay.
This phone almost hit the mark, but i am beginning to think it will be the phone known for having the biggest potential, that it didn't quite reach.
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Sony are stupid tbh.
The Xperia Play obviously has the capability to run PS1 and PSP Games very well.
If they made a PS1 and PSP emulator and had around 50 ports of the best games on each system, the Xperia Play would be flying off the shelves.
But they didn't. Now the community is left to develop this most basic thing for themselves, and Sony blocks it from happening meaning phone sales aren't as high as they could be.
Gay. Gay. Gay.
This phone almost hit the mark, but i am beginning to think it will be the phone known for having the biggest potential, that it didn't quite reach.
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You gota keep in mind, sony no longer have all the licences they had back then, nintendo took some, microsoft took the rest,
Resident evil 1 >> Licenced to Nintendo
Metal gear solid 1 >>>> Licenced to nintendo
thats just off the top of my head, i bet i could find loads more with a quick google search
Without having access to the PS Suite we have no idea what is instore for us when it comes to PS games.
I think when this does launch it will be mega.
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Sony are stupid tbh.
The Xperia Play obviously has the capability to run PS1 and PSP Games very well.
If they made a PS1 and PSP emulator and had around 50 ports of the best games on each system, the Xperia Play would be flying off the shelves.
But they didn't. Now the community is left to develop this most basic thing for themselves, and Sony blocks it from happening meaning phone sales aren't as high as they could be.
Gay. Gay. Gay.
This phone almost hit the mark, but i am beginning to think it will be the phone known for having the biggest potential, that it didn't quite reach.
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What you're talking about is the PlayStation Suite which is coming. I tend to agree it was kinda stupid to release this before that was ready, but then again this phones hardware was a bit behind when it was released, if they waited till October or November when the suite is out it would be way behind.
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You gota keep in mind, sony no longer have all the licences they had back then, nintendo took some, microsoft took the rest,
Resident evil 1 >> Licenced to Nintendo
Metal gear solid 1 >>>> Licenced to nintendo
thats just off the top of my head, i bet i could find loads more with a quick google search
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Neither one of those games is "licensed to Nintendo". Capcom and Konami have created versions of them for Nintendo's systems, but the original releases still stand. Now Sony can't just re-publish the games on a different platform without permission, but if they wanted to they certainly can just ask (as they have done with other games). Its basically free money to those companies, I'm pretty sure they won't say no.
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What you're talking about is the PlayStation Suite which is coming. I tend to agree it was kinda stupid to release this before that was ready, but then again this phones hardware was a bit behind when it was released, if they waited till October or November when the suite is out it would be way behind.
Neither one of those games is "licensed to Nintendo". Capcom and Konami have created versions of them for Nintendo's systems, but the original releases still stand. Now Sony can't just re-publish the games on a different platform without permission, but if they wanted to they certainly can just ask (as they have done with other games). Its basically free money to those companies, I'm pretty sure they won't say no.
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from wikipedia:
2002, a remade version of the game, known as Resident Evil in Western regions and as Biohazard in Japan, was released for the Nintendo GameCube. This was part of an exclusivity agreement between Capcom and Nintendo
AndroHero said:
from wikipedia:
2002, a remade version of the game, known as Resident Evil in Western regions and as Biohazard in Japan, was released for the Nintendo GameCube. This was part of an exclusivity agreement between Capcom and Nintendo
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you forgot the end of that sentence: "that spanned three new games. "
Also from Wikipedia:
"Resident Evil: Director's Cut Dual Shock Ver. was later released for the PlayStation 3 and PlayStation Portable as a downloadable game available from the PlayStation Network."
I would say that post dates a 2002 agreement.
I hate being wrong lol
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I hate being wrong lol
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Its ok, we all still love you!
AndroHero said:
I hate being wrong lol
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I respect people alot more when they can admit it
/respect
Hi I think Naughty Dog should port games Like Jak & Daxter and PSP versions of Uncharted that would be epic dont you?
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Hi I think Naughty Dog should port games Like Jak & Daxter and PSP versions of Uncharted that would be epic dont you?
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Oh yeah that would be awesome !
Games Like that Nevr get made again ever I have the PS3 and PS2 version ther too epic
I just need all versions of J&D + Daxter from PSP - then Sony make my Play much better!
Oh, and God Of War - this is the end, nothing all. Please, Sony!!!! Make this Playstation Certified games!!!!
All True Sony have Sat there and Said Japan Gets the releases Only Its Garbage They should learn to 'share"
Uncharted isn't even on PSP -_-
The f*ck?
They Can Port it!
I think Sony dropped the ball much like it's PSP at first, oh and PS3 also. This phone was supposed to be the best gaming phone, built for gaming and we have not seen many games, just ones indie developers make or mobile developers. This also can run PSP games (I had a link, but it's gone now) that was running Jax & Dexter and sold via the PS Store.
Which if your on Verizon, we don't have that
Phryxus, you mean we HAD Jak & Daxter on Play, but for now it's gone?!??!?!?!?!??!
DiKeJ said:
Phryxus, you mean we HAD Jak & Daxter on Play, but for now it's gone?!??!?!?!?!??!
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Daxter the PSP port was certified for the PS Suite a little while back and should hope to see soon appear in the Store. http://www.xperiagamer.com/Blog3/esrb-confirms-psp-games-for-ps-certified.html Its in this list.
I knew about Daxter, but Jak & Daxter series? Nahhh....
whoa, what my favourite game series ( even tho its just daxter) came and gone that sucks!
perhaps we should search retrogames on psx and n64 to find something similar... but the most similar game i can think of is banjo kazooje. Heh.
Yup, but it's not Jak itself . I want his and Daxter!
BTW - someone know when Daxter or Syphon Filter from PSP coming? I know it's on ESRB like coming Playstation Certified games for example for Play, but no news after few weeks/month.
Nope They've Been Rated but no ETA's yet,
SONY are actually keeping very quiet on this
Downloading PSP games on torrent and play them on Android via emulator how safe is that?
I mean, you can't really purchase PSP games for Android, right?
Not a matter of safe but I Donno I guess your other option is to rip them from umd. Emulators and Roms have not been legal exactly for an exceptionally long time now...
mirrin said:
Not a matter of safe but I Donno I guess your other option is to rip them from umd. Emulators and Roms have not been legal exactly for an exceptionally long time now...
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Clarification- emulators are legal. ROMs, however, are not, unless you backed them up yourself, for your own personal use, and you do not distribute the backed up image.
Do I need a PSP to backup a game or is a PC enough? If it is, I could just buy PSP games..
what do you mean by safe ?
you're not gonna go to jail just for download some psp isos, but if you gonna do it "legal" you gonna need a psp jailbreaked just to run a homebrew to convert the umd discs to iso files, wich makes no sense to me cause if you already have a psp runing games why would you gonna emulate them on the shield tablet ?
yes
Niii4 said:
Do I need a PSP to backup a game or is a PC enough? If it is, I could just buy PSP games..
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To backup a umd it requires a hacked PSP and a copy of the game it will rip onto the memory card and from there you can take the up to 1.8gb file and use in an emu.
Otherwise hacking eboot images is more complicated. There is a tool to convert psx images to PSP compatible.
So long story short alot of these games are download only there is no legit way to get them so grey sites are your only option as for viruses likely from the sites in the form of infected ads also if your ISP monitors this type of file they can send c&d and terminate your account.
It is rather unlikely that PSP games will be monitored and the sources I can't name here most are dead as nobody really cares about PSP Sony has discontinued it and it's not doing vita many favors these days either.
@mirrin I appreciate your explanation. Thank you.
Do you think there will be official PSP ports for Android like they do with PC games?
Yes, with "safe" I was referring to viruses, malware etc.
Niii4 said:
@mirrin I appreciate your explanation. Thank you.
Do you think there will be official PSP ports for Android like they do with PC games?
Yes, with "safe" I was referring to viruses, malware etc.
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For some titles yes for most no. Sony doesn't seem to be into that yet but I would check out the psn stuff they have for the Xperia devices... Unfortunately the psm service was discontinued last year. It used to be an app store for the Xperia play which was a PSP go merged with a cellphone