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So I was offered the following phone for my Captivate and I am not sure what device is the better out of:
My Captivate, running 2.2 (Official, Canada), locked to Rogers.
His Desire Z, running 2.2 (Official), Unlocked.
Should I trade the guy? Both phones are in like new condition, though I still have my box and he does not.
Is the Captivate more powerful then the Desire Z?
What is the better phone in your opinion? I need help and the guy wants to trade at 10:30am tomorrow...can't decide! I am so torn and know NOTHING about the Desire Z.
Only take the desire Z if you want a qwerty keyboard badly, otherwise choose the captivate.
Sense is laggy as hell and they dont have developers like supercurio voor lagfix, sound etc. Also I dont kbow about the screen.. We have Samoled, the Z had slcd, which makes our display a nicer, brighter display. It also could be a faulthy model, in the early releases there was a production error which caused the slider system to crumble down.
Sooo would you take the desire Z only for its keyboard and the laggy sense?
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I believe the Desire Z is actually called the G2 made by HTC.
This link will take you to phonescoop to compare the two phones.
My opinion for what its worth, stick with the 4 inch super amoled screen. Nothing really compares to it right now as far as deep blacks and rich colors. If the screen doesn't sway you, you could look at the processor. The captivate weighs in with 1000MHz, the G2 with 800Mhz. Not to mention I'm not a fan of slide out keyboards. Up to you though
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I believe the Desire Z is actually called the G2 made by HTC.
This link will take you to phonescoop to compare the two phones.
My opinion for what its worth, stick with the 4 inch super amoled screen. Nothing really compares to it right now as far as deep blacks and rich colors. If the screen doesn't sway you, you could look at the processor. The captivate weighs in with 1000MHz, the G2 with 800Mhz. Not to mention I'm not a fan of slide out keyboards. Up to you though
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the screen on your captivate is far nicer than that of the desire z. Its a nice phone, a guy at my work has one, but when put beside my cappy, it looks like the always in super dim mode or something.
IMO keep the Captivate
I would not trade. You know nothing about the other phone and have not given any reasons for getting rid of the Captivate. Why trade to another phone that you know nothing about?
Stick with the Captivate and put a Design Gears rom on it. With Perception 10.1 I'm getting amazing speed, gps accuracy, and battery life.
Well this is how this all came about...
I love my Captivate, my wife does not really like hers. So I posted an ad saying that I wanted to trade a Captivate for either an iphone 4 or a BlackBerry Torch...
This guy wrote me, offering the Desire Z. He doesn't even want the phone for personal use. He is 50+ years old and works for a publishing company. His company just did some work with 5 Smart phones and he sold the rest other than the Desire Z.
We have been talking all day and he sent some pics...the phone still has the plastic on the keyboard, its been used for a whole 5 minutes. He wants to trade so he can do some stuff with the Captivate, as they just sell the phones for whatever they can get afterwards.
So yeah...its like new, but so is mine. I was never interested in the Desire Z but it looked cool so I thought I would gather some opinions. Thats all : )
Well if the desire z is the htc g2 then I have an opinion.
First off I have the captivate and love it and I would keep it over the g2 for 2-3 reasons which ill get to.
I got a g2 for my wife and she's had it for about 2 months. I play with it all the time because there's something about it that attracts me to it. Idk I think I just really like the design. Its a sweet phone for sure. the numbers on quadrant and linpack for the g2 (stock) are way better, linpack 32 and quadrant 1620, if that really means anything. 800mhz is no big deal really considering were on this forum and everyone has custom roms and they have roms for the g2 that overclock to 1.8ghz. The battery life on the g2 is better than the captivate I don't care what numbers say the g2 goes the distance. The picture quality is better. Slide out keyboard is pretty cool to me but I know some don't care. But typing on my phone right now I only see the little tiny text window cause the virtual keyboard and the g2 with the physical keyboard you get the whole screen which is great. I personally think the g2 looks cooler but don't get me wrong my cap is sexy. Maybe some other reasons I like it can't think of right now.
As for the captivate and reasons why I would keep it. Well me and this phone have a special bond and id just feel bad disowning for it another lol. Ok real reasons. Screen of course is better. Gorilla glass. Seems more durable. Way more picture options, way more...I mean way more. Better hd video quality. Easier to root and probably put roms on too. More internal memory. Usb cover, I really think that is just going above and beyond, way to go samsung. Bigger screen size is nice but is gonna use more battery. Micro sd slot is accessible without removing battery. Maybe some other reasons for this but I can't think of em right now. I guess that was more than 2-3 , whatever.
I've been a loyal follower of dg's roms but recently switched to paragon 5.0 and am loving it all around and battery life is great and it looks frickin sweet. Go green.
As for you wife. She probably would like the g2 better mine does but as for you idk its your call they're both sweet but you might regret losing all the great things I described about the capt.
Oh yeah g2 has a nice flash and real gps.
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roadrash7 said:
Well if the desire z is the htc g2 then I have an opinion.
First off I have the captivate and love it and I would keep it over the g2 for 2-3 reasons which ill get to.
I got a g2 for my wife and she's had it for about 2 months. I play with it all the time because there's something about it that attracts me to it. Idk I think I just really like the design. Its a sweet phone for sure. the numbers on quadrant and linpack for the g2 (stock) are way better, linpack 32 and quadrant 1620, if that really means anything. 800mhz is no big deal really considering were on this forum and everyone has custom roms and they have roms for the g2 that overclock to 1.8ghz. The battery life on the g2 is better than the captivate I don't care what numbers say the g2 goes the distance. The picture quality is better. Slide out keyboard is pretty cool to me but I know some don't care. But typing on my phone right now I only see the little tiny text window cause the virtual keyboard and the g2 with the physical keyboard you get the whole screen which is great. I personally think the g2 looks cooler but don't get me wrong my cap is sexy. Maybe some other reasons I like it can't think of right now.
As for the captivate and reasons why I would keep it. Well me and this phone have a special bond and id just feel bad disowning for it another lol. Ok real reasons. Screen of course is better. Gorilla glass. Seems more durable. Way more picture options, way more...I mean way more. Better hd video quality. Easier to root and probably put roms on too. More internal memory. Usb cover, I really think that is just going above and beyond, way to go samsung. Bigger screen size is nice but is gonna use more battery. Micro sd slot is accessible without removing battery. Maybe some other reasons for this but I can't think of em right now. I guess that was more than 2-3 , whatever.
I've been a loyal follower of dg's roms but recently switched to paragon 5.0 and am loving it all around and battery life is great and it looks frickin sweet. Go green.
As for you wife. She probably would like the g2 better mine does but as for you idk its your call they're both sweet but you might regret losing all the great things I described about the capt.
Oh yeah g2 has a nice flash and real gps.
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Really awesome reply man, very insightful and I want to thank you for that...
I think if I got rid of the Cap I would regret it. I researched for weeks, tons of videos and reviews, and when I finally got the Cap it was amazing. I am drawn to the look of the Desire 2 or g2 whatever you want to call it, but I would definatly miss the Cap.
I am running official 2.2 but would like to run a custom ROM, I just have no clue how to go about learning it. Is it difficult? I do have an exstensive back ground in electronics (16 years computer repair, 2 years CG Development with Maya, etc) Would messing with custom ROMS be very difficult? I just have never looked into it lol
It can take a while to learn if your new. If I was gonna tell you in a quick summary... you should first figure out how to get into download mode and recovery mode. If you dont know just ask ill tell ya. Pick the rom you want put it on your internal sd. Get the clockwork recovery file on your internal sd too and renamed it to "update". You can find it here somewhere if not ask someone. When you have the rom you want and clockwork recovery file on your sd you get your phone into recovery mode select reinstall packages (power button selects and volume moves up and down) select reinstall packages again and it will put you in clockwork recovery. Then go to "apply/ choose zip from sd" select the rom you picked and that's basically it.
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It can take a while to learn if your new. If I was gonna tell you in a quick summary... you should first figure out how to get into download mode and recovery mode. If you dont know just ask ill tell ya. Pick the rom you want put it on your internal sd. Get the clockwork recovery file on your internal sd too and renamed it to "update". You can find it here somewhere if not ask someone. When you have the rom you want and clockwork recovery file on your sd you get your phone into recovery mode select reinstall packages (power button selects and volume moves up and down) select reinstall packages again and it will put you in clockwork recovery. Then go to "apply/ choose zip from sd" select the rom you picked and that's basically it.
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I can get into those modes no problem, but will I have a problem if my phone is a version 10?
No idea what a version 10 is but if you can't get onto those modes I think you would be good.
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There should be a nice sticky tellibg you how to flash a rom
Otherwise it id almost always in the rom post! Just use the search or look around a bit and if you have questions than ask! I have a really small amount of knowledge of coding but this is my 4th smartphone and I flashed them all, so it shouldn't be too dificult
Happy flashing~
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If you go into the captivate development forum there's a sticky thread near the top that includes instructions and videos on how to rom.
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IMHO, roadrash7 hit the nail on the head.
I went from a Vibrant (BELL), to a Desire Z (coz the Vibrant kept dying), then to Captivate for the reasons roadrash7 presented, and I've never regretted my decision. Except for the GPS part. Call me lucky, but the GPS on my Captivate gets an accurate lock under 30 seconds even when I'm not on WIFI.
Why would you regret trading away the captivate? I thought your wife is the one that wants to trade away her captivate. You need to find out what she doesn't like about the captivate and determine if the desire z has what she wants.
For flashing, you're comfortable around computers so you'll be ok once you read everything. Follow the instructions for what you want to do and you'll soon be comfortable customizing your device.
aridoasis said:
IMHO, roadrash7 hit the nail on the head.
I went from a Vibrant (BELL), to a Desire Z (coz the Vibrant kept dying), then to Captivate for the reasons roadrash7 presented, and I've never regretted my decision. Except for the GPS part. Call me lucky, but the GPS on my Captivate gets an accurate lock under 30 seconds even when I'm not on WIFI.
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Yeah my GPS is great on my Captivate too.
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Why would you regret trading away the captivate? I thought your wife is the one that wants to trade away her captivate. You need to find out what she doesn't like about the captivate and determine if the desire z has what she wants.
For flashing, you're comfortable around computers so you'll be ok once you read everything. Follow the instructions for what you want to do and you'll soon be comfortable customizing your device.
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Yeah I checked with her first and she didn't want the Desire Z. I don't think she likes Android because its so customizable...I know that doesnt make sense but she wants something simple like her old iphone 3gs. Its so stupid IMO
I downloaded the gingerbread launcher off the market place for her last night, and downloaded some fun social widgets for her. I hope she might enjoy the phone a bit more now...I dont know, I am trying to show her she can really make the phone her own, you know?
since you are running rogers 2.2 i'd recommend to get started you do the following...
do not use the odin one-click methods out there to return to stock like a lot of the posts say to do. This is for ATT users... You will lose your 3 button recovery. This can be fixed however. Easiest way to get started flashing with rogers is follow directions i made in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925201
If none of this makes much sense right now, just do some research, and know that its not as difficult as it may appear.
Hey guys. I know I'm posting this in here so I assume bias answers will come aboutt but I'm switching to att and I cannot decide between the two. What do you think? I know the atrix isn't very rootable or romable but has amazing specs. But the inspire is, and is a beautiful device. What are your opinions? How easy is the inspire to root?
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Depends on if you prefer the allure of a dual core processor over end user customization and superior build quality.
Rooting the Inspire is very easy if you can follow the instructions exactly as they are written.
Have both myself and the atrix is going back. Everyone has their preference for what they want in a phone and I really wanted to like the atrix but I don't see the benefit at this time of dual core when it comes at the expense of customizing. I am somewhat biased toward sense as well even though I don't always use sense roms, it is nice to have the option. The inspire is a great phone and I know I won't get bored given the variety of roms that are, or will be available.
Battery seems to be a topic that comes up but honestly I have been getting great results with the inspire. 13 hours off charger today and dropped to 68%. Light day for me, only an hour of display time and few minutes of calls but everything left to sync every hour. One major thing I have noticed is that even if you do find you need to recharge, the inspire charges quickly, even using computer usb, while the atrix takes a lot longer and is painfully slow if you are not using a regular outlet to charge.
Been covered before, but the inspire really is the better device. MOTO kinda screwed the atrix up with software.
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Been covered before, but the inspire really is the better device. MOTO kinda screwed the atrix up with software.
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100% agree. I returned my Atrix for the Inspire, and I'm glad I did. Inspire has a much more polished and functional user interface.
New root tools now available here should make rooting easy.
As said before it depends on what you want.
Phone with awesome specs or Phone with awesome dev support and a great UI
Both phones are awesome in their own right, but for me its all about having control of my phone and being able to do what I like to it.
In all honesty I'd wait for a dual core phone till HTC makes one. This is my first HTC coming from a blackberry bold. I don't think I'll ever not go with HTC again...
edit: Baaa I sound like a fanboy.....
okay, i appreicate your help guys. i guess now im just trying to figure out when i get the phone, how to root. ive been looking at this for simple s off and root(which is all i want for ROMing and using OC kernels). has anyone had luck with this, and or was it rather easy?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
I just used the hack kit to root. Not hard if you just follow the instructions and only takes 45 minutes after you get all the files downloaded.
Just returned my Atrix back to Radioshack and got the Inspire!! Just as everyone said here, if you want something good on paper but with no real use, then the Atrix is for you, but if you want a proven phone with an unlocked bootloader for ROMS etc... then this is the the right choice...
Although I lost my front facing camera, i figured I rarely used it anyways, so no biggie for me. I also didn't like the smaller icons on the Atrix. Even though it has less RAM and i less core, it still performs pretty dang fast..
Quadrant scores with a good amount of apps. without OC or anything stock is still hitting: 1807
Color looks much better too on this screen..... glad I switched to this phone instead. I am sure I will get a better dual or quad core in the next year but until then this will do....
Bye Motorola...except for the Xoom..that looks like a good choice though.
Your asking this in the inspire forms, of course everyone will say the inspire is better. If you asked this in the atrix forums you'd get the opposite response I've had both and returned the inspire. It isn't a bad phone but it has horrid battery life and no internal sd storage. It has great roms and OCs like a monster but OC and bad battery life just compound the problem. I can see why people would choose one or the other, it really just depends on what you're looking for.
I'm not sure if this is true or not, but a guy on Reddit said he was talking with a Motorola Representative and the Rep. told him that the Atrix doesn't use both cores at the same time. One is for the phone and the other is just for the laptop dock. Maybe someone else has more info on this.
Wow, another reason Im happy I stuck to my guns and got this phone.
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so if I use bubbys GUI, that will allow me to sideload apps? Or ill need to put a rom that allows that? Or what is the sideload wonder machine? I'm sorry for all the questions, the htc vision is a lot more simple.
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Used hack kit on my inspire and bubbys on my wifes. not as easy as samsung galaxy s, however not difficult if you follow the directions to the letter lol. my only issue with buys was total user error on my part lol. ended up making 32 gb class 4 gold card instead of the already made 4 gb gold card I had.
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If you just want to sideload, you can use Sideload Wonder Machine. If you want root and custom roms use one of the hack kits.
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I actually have both phones. I love both of them for different reasons.
Atrix - Works well once you change launchers. Fast and smooth. I actually like the smaller icons and all. But I use this phone mostly as a personal backup phone. But it works well and is crystal clear with a strong signal. MUCh MUCH better than my old cappy.
Inspire - My work phone, thank GOD I work from home and can have it plugged in most of the time. When I travel I have to have the Atrix just in case I cant get juice on the road. But, the inspire is awsome, not as fast but "good enough" for me. Love the size and color of it and the sense ui just works for me. I can tell which pocket has what phone based on bulk and weight. Very nice quality phone. Plus, I had a cappy, and we all know what we did almost every day. Loaded custom roms, played and even bricked a few but its so addicting.
If I had to go purchase one today, knowing what I know, Inspire would be my first choice, Again I own both and love both but first choice for the pure fun and joy it would give me the INSPIRE wins hands down.
Got my inspire today. Mixed feelings so far. Have to admit i kind of miss my captivate a little.
I think the inspire screen size is perfect. But i miss the superamoled. I don't know if its just me but my screen has horrible viewing angles and also seems to have too much of a grey color to it.
If samsung brings out the infuse soon i might give it a shot. This being my first htc maybe i should give it more time. Might return it for another one to see how the screen looks.
As far as the atrix goes, they couldn't pay me to use that phone. Played with one a little today, it's more hype than anything imo.
I like the form of the inspire, it feels solid, not iphone4 solid but very close. I hope rooting and everything gets easier.
Someone smarter than Me should start selling goldcards for this phone. Id be 1st in line for one.
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I had both phones - inspire is the best phone I have ever had. It made the atrix look like a toy. iPhone 4 has a better camera, but thats about it.
Inspire all the way. Galaxy S 2 is looking good though, if it ever comes out.
Edit: How can anyone with an Atrix and Inspire say the inspire is slower? The atrix is the definition of a neutered turtle. That thing is clunky and useless.
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I had both phones - inspire is the best phone I have ever had. It made the atrix look like a toy. iPhone 4 has a better camera, but thats about it.
Inspire all the way. Galaxy S 2 is looking good though, if it ever comes out.
Edit: How can anyone with an Atrix and Inspire say the inspire is slower? The atrix is the definition of a neutered turtle. That thing is clunky and useless.
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I'm also a psu fan. I hope that they let Joe stay on the sideline forever. Hell he should be buried there.
Back on topic, my opinion if the atrix is that it is basically a moto iphone that is not as good as the 4 but somewhere inbetween a 3 gs and the iphone 4.
As far as the inspire goes, it needs a better screen in my opinion but maybe i just got a bad one. I'm taking it back today to try another one and if its the same then i may just wait for the infuse to come out.
If you look in the atrix forum it appears that the majority are giving up on it already.
Dg got rid of his and i think but don't quote me in this, he said he doesn't think the locked will ever be broken in to which leads me back to my iphone reference. Same thing, you can root (jailbreak) it but not much else.
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I'm also a psu fan. I hope that they let Joe stay on the sideline forever. Hell he should be buried there.
Back on topic, my opinion if the atrix is that it is basically a moto iphone that is not as good as the 4 but somewhere inbetween a 3 gs and the iphone 4.
As far as the inspire goes, it needs a better screen in my opinion but maybe i just got a bad one. I'm taking it back today to try another one and if its the same then i may just wait for the infuse to come out.
If you look in the atrix forum it appears that the majority are giving up on it already.
Dg got rid of his and i think but don't quote me in this, he said he doesn't think the locked will ever be broken in to which leads me back to my iphone reference. Same thing, you can root (jailbreak) it but not much else.
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Did dg really get rid of his Atrix, did he post about it some where? Only reason I ask is cause I was planning on trying the atrix in my thirty day period bit if he left I'm not even gonna try. He doesn't give up that easy so if he have up looks bad lol
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So, today i deiced i wanted a Infuse after having my atrix for less than 3 weeks. is it a good move?
how good is the performance on this phone?
Great move. I did and I'm lovin it. Everything about this phone is better. Dual core? Pshh my infuse is faster than my atrix ever was. I've had every phone and I love this thing
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I'm picking mine up tomorrow, but I'll be keeping my Atrix as my main phone. The reps at the AT&T store let me play with the model device, and the screen looks huge!
Also, Atrix is getting a lot of hate, ATM, but our good friend Kholk is whipping up a nice bootloader bypass where we can be running CM7 and the gingerbready goodness you want.
I did the same and I do not miss one thing about the Atrix.
Ha i guess i did a good move then. this is my second atrix that u bought at best buy for 75 bucks with discounts from here and there.
called att today and told them i was on my second atrix with the same issues. they were going to send me a reburf i was liek not even a month old and getting a refurb. hell naw.
went to the att store told them i was told by the 611 people to go to the store and get it exchanged. they said they couldn't do it and that i was misinformed. i stuck to my story they got on the phone with a manager from att i talked to him and told him i sick and tired and i was going to cancel my contract right there and then. he said not to. that they would ship me the infuse 4g with 2 day shipping. he didn't mention anything about returning the atrix to best buy. so i guess i keep it?
You made the right move. You won't regret it. This sucker is fast and I can type better than any other phone I've had since my blackberry 9000. The few extra mm of screen make a huge difference
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i was having a hard time adjusting to the keyboard on the atrix because i came from a HD2 running android so the screen was smaller. cant wait to get mine.
You'll love it. Its perfect size
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im getting more anxious by the minute. played with it at the AT&T store. i loved how thin it is. i look at my atrix now and thing "you fat *****" lol. i still got some love for the atrix though. hopefully i get to keep it to
I just made the switch from the Atrix to the Infuse as well. Only been a couple hours and I'm already glad I switched.
Atrix was a huge letdown IMHO the lapdock was extremely overpriced for one. The plans were outrageous for two. And there was obsoultely no use for dual core. Just overkill. Oh plus the locked bootloader thing killed it too. Can't forget that
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yeah. i got bored of it really quick. THD games are nice tho. main reason why i had gotten the atrix was the lapdock good think i didnt buy it.
I'm thinking about switching to the Infuse over from the iphone. How is the speaker volume like when the phone rings? That's one of the things i love about the iPhone, the ringtones are loud.
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I'm thinking about switching to the Infuse over from the iphone. How is the speaker volume like when the phone rings? That's one of the things i love about the iPhone, the ringtones are loud.
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Its loud if you pick a loud ringtone.
I had a Atrix 4G. Possibly the worst phone I have ever owned, it was just straight trash. I knew better than to get a crappy Motorola device. I had a Captivate for a while and loved it but needed a FFC and flash for the rear cam. I am back on my iPhone 4 but I found someone that will buy my iPhone 4 for $440 and I'll buy the Infuse off another guy for $400. I'm so tempted to do this.
What do you guys think I should do?
I am actually thinking about switching from the atrix too. I can't keep waiting for the bootloader to get unlocked any longer. Not really too happy with anything else about the atrix and pretty much just got it for the dual core. Do you guys think the 1.2ghz will get outdated soon with every phone coming out with dual cores? Worth buying the infuse or should I wait till the SG2 or "attain" or whatever the **** att calls it.
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I am actually thinking about switching from the atrix too. I can't keep waiting for the bootloader to get unlocked any longer. Not really too happy with anything else about the atrix and pretty much just got it for the dual core. Do you guys think the 1.2ghz will get outdated soon with every phone coming out with dual cores? Worth buying the infuse or should I wait till the SG2 or "attain" or whatever the **** att calls it.
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Dual-core Galaxsy S II and HTC Sensation variants will probably make it to AT&T by the end of summer. Depends on how impatient you are.
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Dual-core Galaxsy S II and HTC Sensation variants will probably make it to AT&T by the end of summer. Depends on how impatient you are.
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Most of the new phones still have single core CPUs. I'm not worried about the infuse being too slow to run the latest Android version a year or two from now. Look at the Nexus One, it still runs very fast and smoothly on a custom rom. You have to remember that Google designs Android to run on the most phones possible. Extra processing power is really only needed for gaming. And personally I'll take a tablet for gaming, and that can have the higher end hardware.
ITT: People who didn't know how to tweak the Atrix.
I moved from the Atrix and I think its a good move. I understood that the atrix had the power but honestly in every day use, I couldnt tell the difference. I like how the Infuse had side loading from the beginning and TouchWiz > MotoBlur.
Way I see it is I gained a bigger screen that even though doesnt have the res the atrix did, still looks more appealing.
ALSO, I'm actually getting HSPA+ speeds with this phone unlike I was with the Atrix!
I am really really sick of this Droid 2 that VZW replaced my Droid with. I'm sick of Moto services invading my phone and slowing it down. There's no true ASOP build. This phone sucks balls.
I was set on buying an Incredible 2 OoC b/c it was cheap at $440 and saving my upgrade till later, but where I'm moving to next week already has LTE towers.
Do I really want to wait 2 months using this laggy trash? And possibly end up getting a TB anyway because the other phones coming out suck.
Or do I want to get a TB and save my upgrade till later in the Q4 2011/Q1 2012 when NFC Ice Cream Sandwich phones come out.
Don't want a Charge, poor build material choices.
Don't want a Revolution. Bing...
Does it really matter? Not really... You just root and you can put whatever you want and however you want.
Motorola tends to lock their bootloaders and make it hard to do what you want.
Samsung stated that they'll never lock it that way(Not in those words, but given the sense that they will leave it open)
HTC has been locking down their devices, but not as tough as Motorola does.
So basically pick a device with the hardware you want, and make sure it's root and you can install custom roms/kernels.
The T-Bolt is a great phone, and it has excellent community support. I have absolutely no complaints about my phone (aside from the battery life).
That being said, the Galaxy S II that's coming out looks sexy as hell. It might be worth the wait to hold out for that. Honestly, it's totally up to you.
There was talk about tiered 4G plans, which is what made me opt for the early upgrade to the T-Bolt (hoping to be grandfathered in to unlimited 4G). I haven't heard much on that front, but it's still a possibility.
wait a few months
from everything i've ever read about samsung phones, their software support is absolutely horrible. slow updates, faulty gps etc. i've heard a ton of people complain about the issue, and it seems to be the case with all their phones... never had one, but that's the impression i get.
the thunderbolt is a decent phone, but all it really has over the droid x is 4g. the t-bolt screen might be a little better, but not much. in day to day use it's not faster, the battery isn't even close and the build quality of the DX is equal or better. if i were you i would pick up a DX on craigslist for $175 and save your upgrade for a few months. The dx has even more dev support than the T-bolt and it's the best phone I ever had.
bottom line is, if you really want 4g speeds right now, really really bad, then get the thunderbolt. if you can do without that for awhile i think you will be really happy with a DX, especially after using the Droid 2, and you'll spend less than half the money.
the above is just my .02.
Show me a HTC or Motorola phone with latest software on it
Not you fat Jesus
I bought mine off contract and am very happy I did it. Yes there are a few issues, but nothing a little root cant fix.
Though waiting a few months for a better phone won't hurt, the TB is a great choice.
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Not you fat Jesus
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I just have to say that this cracks me up every time I see you post it.
Once you get a taste of 4G, you will never want a phone that is 3G only. So if you are moving to 4G area and don't want to pay full retail, I suggest you get a used Tbolt from craigslist and use it until something comes along that you like better, then sell the Tbolt
i love my TB, i have it rooted with das bamf NTE 1.6.3 and its about the coolest thing since MP3s.. as with others, the battery life on this thing is fkin AWFUL!! i have the extended battery and i still dont feel like its enough, however i use my phone probably more than i should or more than others. either way the LTE network is retarded fast and i'd never want 3g.
First off I just want to say I owned a droid 2 and it wasn't that bad. I jumped to the thunderbolt just to lock in the 4g rate. The bigger screen is a nice plus but other than that is the same thing. I wasn't overly impressed as other owners of the droid x and 2 have stated is not that big of a jump.
Before I end let me just say other than software wise android phones are exactly where I want them. I don't need a dual core chip in my phone and 4g is. good enough for anything I would ever want to do with my phone. I'm sure most of you will disagree but that's just how I feel. Flame away!
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I picked up a TB on craigslist for $350. The custom roms still seem a bit premature, however they should evolve over time. Nonetheless it's an amazing phone. If you have a desk job or spend a lot of time in your car, the battery life is not much of an issue. Just stay plugged in.
Got my TB off Craigslist for a fascinate trade plus 150$. I love it so far.. 4g is amazing..once you.have it you won't want to go back.
Roms are not bad. I'm waiting for a complete cm7 or sense 3.0 rom but other than that das bamf runs fantastic.
If you have the cash and want a great phone with a growing dev community, go for it.
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Thank you for all the input.
It's funny the other 2 forums told me I'm a moron and this one says Buy a TB!!!
I use over 2GB of data a month so the 4G unlimited (Hopefully grandfathered for life) makes it very tempting since my upgrade isn't till mid July which is around the time the rumors of tiered data plans landing. I'm also not to optimistic about an actual new phone coming out then. Maybe the SGSII but I really hate the fact that it doesnt have a search button. It's a damn Google phone and I use the search button all the time, for GOOGLE, not Bing!
I didn't even think about craigslist. That might be a good option.
As for a cheap DX. No way. It basically is a D2 minus the keyboard. I like the keyboard, I can sacrifice it for a 4G newish phone but not for an X. and I hate the Blur invasion, and locked bootloader. My D2 has been running custom roms. They're just too laggy and buggy still. Fab, Kejar, and Rummy are awesome, but they all had DXs and the D2 ports were just not good. Most of it I blame on Blur still having to be in there. I've been running GB stock blur and custom and for the first time since my D1 ADW launcher gets kicked out of memory and has to reload when I hit home.... I hate it.
EBay is your friend. Lots of Tbolts available every day, including NIB models. Prices similar to Craigslist, depending where you are.
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It's funny the other 2 forums told me I'm a moron and this one says Buy a TB!!!
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well... if you go to an iphone forum I'm sure they'd say get an iphone! we are only somewhat biased here
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EBay is your friend. Lots of Tbolts available every day, including NIB models. Prices similar to Craigslist, depending where you are.
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Honestly I never buy anything without having it in my hands first. Learned my lesson when eBay burned me not once but twice.
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Nexus to name just 1
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well... if you go to an iphone forum I'm sure they'd say get an iphone! we are only somewhat biased here
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Haha it wasn't an iphone forum. they were android and droid forums.
Get the tbolt. You will not regret it.
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Hey, I know that there at already lots of threads that have been created with various people asking whether the infuse is worth getting. But in my situation my decision is a one-time deal then I'm locked in for 18 months again (until im eligible for another upgrade).
So I want to ask whether I should get the Infuse when my upgrade comes in June or should I wait for when the GS2 hopefully hits AT&T in Q3? The GS2 is obviously better than any phone out there currently however I am currently stuck with a Nokia F160 (FML) so I'm anxious to get my hands on a new phone.
What do you guys think I should do?
The question is can u wait? Honestly this phone can be better once the roms drop... the captivate was a great phone that became a much better phone once it had custom roms. If u can get infuse now and some how save say 700 in 3 mths it would be a wise choice. Remember once roms drop the phone will be much better and if u was able to deal with that Nokia for as long as u did I think u can deal with the Infuse for longer.
Just my 2¢
sent from Infuse but miss my captivate on cont. 5.5.... One day this can be as good...
You will be thrilled with the quality of the screen. It's really mind blowing how great this thing looks. I am having some weird restart issues, but only when I have my SD card installed, so I'm guessing there is some weirdness that they should be able to fix fairly easily. It runs very, very fast and the battery is great. If nothing else, sell your Infuse in 3-4 months for ~400 here, and pay the extra 150-200 to buy the branded SGS2 from att.
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You will be thrilled with the quality of the screen. It's really mind blowing how great this thing looks. I am having some weird restart issues, but only when I have my SD card installed, so I'm guessing there is some weirdness that they should be able to fix fairly easily. It runs very, very fast and the battery is great. If nothing else, sell your Infuse in 3-4 months for ~400 here, and pay the extra 150-200 to buy the branded SGS2 from att.
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I agree. The Infuse has all that I want in a phone, minus some restarting/freezing hiccups that I am certain will be cured with the many roms that are forthcoming.
I may buy the SGS2 in a few months, but actually, at that point in time, I might get an unlocked Hercules - that phone has the bigger screen of the Infuse with the hardware of the SGS2 if not slightly better. Other phones will be coming out in that time too, like the HTC Holiday which seems pretty bad ass. So my two cents is to get the Infuse now, and re-evaluate/sell in a few months when similar dual core versions are made available.
Hope that helps.
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I agree. The Infuse has all that I want in a phone, minus some restarting/freezing hiccups that I am certain will be cured with the many roms that are forthcoming.
I may buy the SGS2 in a few months, but actually, at that point in time, I might get an unlocked Hercules - that phone has the bigger screen of the Infuse with the hardware of the SGS2 if not slightly better. Other phones will be coming out in that time too, like the HTC Holiday which seems pretty bad ass. So my two cents is to get the Infuse now, and re-evaluate/sell in a few months when similar dual core versions are made available.
Hope that helps.
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SGS2 dualcore battery drain way faster, I read forums sgs2 is a joke on mobile phone. Having a dual core phone make it IMMOBILE phone, they even say yes it is darn fast especially when browsing that's the only plus they see now compare to the infuse, but I was rofl when they mention fast but useless having to look for an outlet every time is a pain in a behind on a mobile phone, that's why I decided to bought the infuse, one even mention buying a sgs2 is similar to buying a lambo that can run 200mph but can only do 65-90mph on the freeway, and sucks more gas and way more expensive than a civic whicj can also do 90mph with less gas, I saw their point, do you?
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I too was waiting on the GSII, but after playing with the phone for a week I might just stay with the infuse. If we could get gingerbread on this thing it's a keeper.
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I too was waiting on the GSII, but after playing with the phone for a week I might just stay with the infuse. If we could get gingerbread on this thing it's a keeper.
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This. Fantastic phone but could use some gingerbread love to help with battery and performance. With 2.3 it might be on par if not better than the gs2 simply due to the 4.5 incher.
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Dxtra said:
I too was waiting on the GSII, but after playing with the phone for a week I might just stay with the infuse. If we could get gingerbread on this thing it's a keeper.
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Truer words have never been spoken. This thing with GB equals lights out.
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