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It seems to be the music library in TF3D is missing a vital component - with 16gb cards now available it is possible to store a large number of tracks (I have > 2500). Scolling through all songs/ albums/ artists etc in the library just doesn't cut it when you have that many tracks.
What is required is something like the alphabet bar to the right of the screen in Contacts (and where you add cities in the Weather tab), so you can quickly go to tracks starting with the right letter, and then scroll from there.
Is something like this possible? If not, it seems like a silly ommission by HTC as they have implemented the same kind of thing in other areas of the phone.
Any ideas?
Seriously - no-one else has a problem with this?
Mine won't even find the tracks on the memory card let alone require the need to search through hundreds of them!
All I have are the four HTC demo ones... even tho I've got loads of tracks on the memory card, the only way I can play them is by using WMP rather than the TF3D Library
Works fine for me here.
Have HTC spanish 1.90 official ROM, and an Sandisk SD 6Gb Class4 microSD card.
I have around 250-300 files in MP3/WMA format inside SD\MY Documents\Musica and have no problem using from TF3D.
I have some files in SD\Seleccion\Ringtones in MP3/WAV/WMA format and this files appear in TF3D Music too.
I'm waiting for my new 16Gb microSD card, so probably i put thousands music files into the SD and report back here what's going.
Cheers
do you have to have album art for the tunes to show in the TF3D music app or does it have a placeholder for mp3's without album art attached?
FrederickUK said:
do you have to have album art for the tunes to show in the TF3D music app or does it have a placeholder for mp3's without album art attached?
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both, some folders without picture, and other ones with picture, but all working.
argh, so why the hell isn't mine working!!!
FrederickUK said:
argh, so why the hell isn't mine working!!!
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I don't have a solution to this problem, but I got the problem as well...
Right, so this thread seems to have moved on to people who can't get the TF3D player to recognise their music. There are plently of other threads about that - please check them out.
I have no problems using the player whatsoever - all 2500+ tracks are showing in TF3D, and I even got all the album art sorted out. If I only had a couple of hundred tracks there would be no issue at all. The problem is that with so many tracks TF3D is a pain to navigate through - if you want to find a track that starts with the letter Z it takes forever to scroll to it in the library.
I was hoping some enterprising soul with a bit of programming knowledge could develop something similar to the alphabet bar in Contacts (and where you add cities in the Weather tab), so you can quickly get close to where you want to be, and then scroll from there.
Does that make sense? Anyone know whether that might be possible?
FrederickUK said:
Mine won't even find the tracks on the memory card let alone require the need to search through hundreds of them!
All I have are the four HTC demo ones... even tho I've got loads of tracks on the memory card, the only way I can play them is by using WMP rather than the TF3D Library
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ey, i have no say this before, but MP3/WMA files needs to be labeled with ID3 information to be used by AudioManager...
Cheers
jcespi2005 said:
ey, i have no say this before, but MP3/WMA files needs to be labeled with ID3 information to be used by AudioManager...
Cheers
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Sorry, I think you're just not understanding what I'm saying. I have no problem at all with files and album art etc being recognised by the AudioManager. The problem I have is that when there are thousands of tracks, then navigating through them is a right pain, and I was hoping someone could come up with a better way of doing it.
Rabangus said:
Sorry, I think you're just not understanding what I'm saying. I have no problem at all with files and album art etc being recognised by the AudioManager. The problem I have is that when there are thousands of tracks, then navigating through them is a right pain, and I was hoping someone could come up with a better way of doing it.
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ops, sorry for my bad quote, i have corrected my post i was not talking about your problem finding traks...
Did you test Pocket Player 3.7?
Cheers
Rabangus said:
What is required is something like the alphabet bar to the right of the screen in Contacts (and where you add cities in the Weather tab), so you can quickly go to tracks starting with the right letter, and then scroll from there....
.....Any ideas?
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I have been wondering this as well. I know that HTC produced the Random Access addon for Contacts. Does anyone know - or anyone able - to see if this could be made available for the audio manager?
Yes, I'm frustrated by this too. It would be nice to have the music in the tab, but it would be better to have a great little media player. Any reccomendations?
ya im frustrated by it too. i basically just use that tf3d player for random/shuffle playing.
if i want a specific song ill just navigate to it through file explorer.
kind of a PIA but oh well. maybe they will update it later on.
Audio manager long list issue
I am having same issue. With about 400 albums in my music audio manager there seems no way to scroll thru the list quickly. Hope someone tries and comes up with some kind of solution.
I have 1735 music files in 103 folders, totally 7,63 GB on a 16 GB storage card.
After reboot/data connection over USB/storage card insertion it takes almost 20 minutes until the music collection is up to date.
During the scanning, the phone is slow, almost non-responsive. Even after the scanning is finished there is 6-7 second delay from clicking on the music tab until it is ready to play/browse but all other actions are as fast and responsive as usual.
But, if I connect the phone to the computer again (for example to trasfer some additional files) during the scanning/database refresh it seems like it crashes (but without notification) and it is never finished scanning. I simply have to kill the process, delete the database (audiomanager_eng.vol) and restart the program for a full scanning.
This has occurred since I changed storage card from an 8 GB to 16 GB and added about 100 music files.
Before the new 16 GB card it took a minute or two to refresh and I never experienced any problems if I interrupted the scanning. Also never any delays when starting the music player.
Unfortunately I have sold the old card so I can't reproduced the problem but I have tried to delete the newly added music files with no effect, the problem remains.
Same phone, same ROM as before. No applications added. I have also tried to reset the phone, but the problem remain.
Any one else who have the same issues or a solution?
I noticed that the delay depends on the number of songs in a playlist..
if it plays a playlist about hundreds of songs it takes 10 seconds of delay after you click the tab, for a plylist of 50 songs the delay is about 2 seconds
i had this problem earlier. I had around 2200 songs (11 gigs). I discovered the problem that many singers I made their album known as "Collection" this caused the database to crash. believe me. try not to assign the same album name for different singers and also give album name for each one.
please tell me after you try.
I also use Dutty's roms. they are the most perfect specially in stability and battery drainage.
saziz77 said:
i had this problem earlier. I had around 2200 songs (11 gigs). I discovered the problem that many singers I made their album known as "Collection" this caused the database to crash. believe me. try not to assign the same album name for different singers and also give album name for each one.
please tell me after you try.
I also use Dutty's roms. they are the most perfect specially in stability and battery drainage.
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I have hundreds of songs in genre folders like "60's", "Rock" and so on. These songs are tagged as "# compilation" in Artist and Album artist, "60's" in Album and "Title - Artist" in the title tag.
So, I will definitely try to re-tag them, but the question is how..
Trial and error have had some effect, It seems to work really good now. I have all the songs I previously have, but now it takes 6-7 seconds to open Music after a restart/connection to PC and 1-2 seconds next time. Previously it crashed/hang and was totally unusable.
What I am not doing any more (not sure which solved my problem, or if it was a combination):
* Not using "# " in any tags. Previously I used "# Compilation" in some artist tags.
* All folder.jpg are maximum 500x500 px. Previously I used same as on my home PC, some of them hi-res, like 1500x1500 px and 1,5MB+
* No embedded art/jpg's. Previously some of the mp3's had embedded art.
New file/tag structure:
File naming, full albums:
\# Albums\Artist\Album\Track# - Title.mp3
(\#Albums\Depeche Mode\Music for the masses\02 - Never let me down again.mp3)
Tags:
Artist = Artist
Album artist = Artist
File naming, compilations:
\# Compilations\Compilation name\Artist - Title.mp3
(\# Compilations\60's\Aretha Franklin - Respect.mp3)
Tags:
Artist = Various Artists
Album Artist = Various Artists
Title = Artist - Title (Aretha Franklin - Respect)
May seem a strange way to tag, but this way you don't have to get every artist in the artist listing which saves time in listing.
Hopefully this helps someone.
BR,
S-A
found the true solution to solve slow opening
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5937822&postcount=31
jjollyroger said:
found the true solution to solve slow opening
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5937822&postcount=31
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Thanks! Works great!
Hi,
is there a way to stop the android music player from using low resolution thumbnails instead of my high quality id3-tag album art?
I already found something at xda-developers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755844
and on the google forum:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=6a62bb7424f4784a&hl=en
But it seems like the problem has not been "fixed" (if google already managed to take it as a serious bug or issue in their own software) yet and the problem will also not be fixed in the future...
any ideas about that?
Welcome to the forum, I'd say just use a better app. I use PlayerPro and it looks and works beautifully. You can choose embedded ID3 Art, or download art through the player and if it downloads the wrong art (which rarely happens) You can look up art through PlayerPro and find the correct one and choose it in under 10 seconds usually.
yeah, but...
Thanks so far,
i installed the player... of course it is not bad, but i like to use the original HTC one, because of the sense integration and so on... i already tried a lot of different players like cube, or mortplayer music... but they do not fulfill my expectations...
so if someone could give me a solution for the basic problem... i'd give him/her thousands of thanks
I have one issue that turns into multiple ones: I've used the default [google?] music player and a half dozen others [currently TTPod] and despite is ugly playback, only the default Music Player recognizes all of my stash. the others all miss from 25% to 70% or so of my files.
why is that? if it matters the handset is a LG P509, runs well, is rooted, running modified stock Froyo.
I don't get my music the usual 'store' way: I'm a musician and fan of live sound, so I rip from various sources a lot of live music, render them as MP3's. The players will typically pickup the same bunches and miss the same from one to other, with the exception that none of them handle audiobooks well, or collections of voice/reading/spoken::; examples are I have two versions of Bible audio loaded and a couple of longish books on Audio: player-depending, some will ignore a lot but not all of these files [no pattern] and others will do various things like renaming/numbering the files, leaving them nameless [unknown - track 1, etc] picking up duplicates, identifying individual tracks as albums [again, some, not all, seemingly at random] and elsewise.
???? makes me miss my ipod.
suggestions?
cognus said:
I have one issue that turns into multiple ones: I've used the default [google?] music player and a half dozen others [currently TTPod] and despite is ugly playback, only the default Music Player recognizes all of my stash. the others all miss from 25% to 70% or so of my files.
why is that? if it matters the handset is a LG P509, runs well, is rooted, running modified stock Froyo.
I don't get my music the usual 'store' way: I'm a musician and fan of live sound, so I rip from various sources a lot of live music, render them as MP3's. The players will typically pickup the same bunches and miss the same from one to other, with the exception that none of them handle audiobooks well, or collections of voice/reading/spoken::; examples are I have two versions of Bible audio loaded and a couple of longish books on Audio: player-depending, some will ignore a lot but not all of these files [no pattern] and others will do various things like renaming/numbering the files, leaving them nameless [unknown - track 1, etc] picking up duplicates, identifying individual tracks as albums [again, some, not all, seemingly at random] and elsewise.
???? makes me miss my ipod.
suggestions?
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what happens if u select a song(from the ones that dont appear) from a file manager? does it promp you to play the song with whatever player you have? or the file manager doesnt find them either?
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Have to tried fixing permissions in rom manager?
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you were one step ahead of me. i had not thought of that particular function but I was on the hunt for a good file manager and picked up ES File Explorer. [good app] Anyway, prior to that I went back to market and found a trial of a paid player called PlayerPro. it does the trick. found everything, and was clever enough to obfuscate empty folders. "Folder" view is not the default, but its not hidden either, so using that View everything was quite orderly. so that issue is solved.
I'm still puzzled, however, by the underlying technicals of why this occurs. it would be non-mysterious if there was some consistency, for instance, NO audiobook-type track would be mishandled as an "album", instead of "some are... most are not". And stranger still - CD's that I have ripped directly using a PC based tool have a fairly ordinary file structure [unlike ripping from streams or youtube, or audio tracks from vids] - those genre/album based products completely miss those altogether even though they are in subfolders under "Music".
negrobembon said:
what happens if u select a song(from the ones that dont appear) from a file manager? does it promp you to play the song with whatever player you have? or the file manager doesnt find them either?
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Hey guys,
I've got an odd problem with samsung stock music player on my note 10.1.
Every playlist I add to the device is (dis)played upside down. At first i suspected isyncr, which i use to sync my Itunes with the note, to be the problem - but it turned out it is not.
I already did the following:
checked the m3u playlist isyncr generates with a text editor - everything fine
cleared data of stock music player
cleared data of "media storage"
created a playlist with a 3rd party player (amazon) => reverse order in samsung player, correct order in poweramp, player pro
created a playlist with samsung player => reverse order in 3rd party players (amazon, poweramp, player pro)
searched the internet and xda
asked samsung support for help - twice
Internet knows a similar problem with samsung fascinate without any solution, here on xda i found an old thread which i suspect describes the same problem on a different device (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404735), but also without a solution or idea.
I can hardly believe there is such a bug in the stock music app and hardly anyone steps into it. I also find it hard to believe that samsung had this bug in Fascinate's music player, fixed it in the Galaxy S2's (which i also own and doesn't have this problem), just to re-integrate it in the Note 10.1.
Samsung support is not able to give any qualified answers and rather tries to force me to use kies (which I even tried, but despite its poor performance cannot help me with this problem). I will, however, try to ask them a 3rd time.
The Problem existed in ICS ROM as well as in Jelly Bean, which arrived about 2 weeks ago (XXBLJ9).
Any Ideas what I could try next?
If you read this and don't know an answer either, you can still help me by verifying the problem on your note 10.1 - just create a playlist with for example amazon mp3 (playlist, not album) and open it with samsung stock music player. Would be great, thanks in advance!
Greetings,
Oliver
Okay...seems like nobody has an idea how to solve this...no problem.
You can, however, also help me by just trying it out, takes about 1 minute of your time...is nobody using the stock music player and any other player?
As Internet isn't full of complaints, i suspect that it could be a configuration specific problem with my note. I am willing to wipe it in that case, but as it is not rooted i've got to restore its current state manually after that - which might take some hours So I just want to make sure that there's a chance that wiping helps me with my problem.
Anyone? Can (or can't) you confirm my problem?
Thanks and Greetings,
Oliver
Same issue on Samsung Droid Charge
OliverB82 said:
Okay...seems like nobody has an idea how to solve this...no problem.
You can, however, also help me by just trying it out, takes about 1 minute of your time...is nobody using the stock music player and any other player?
As Internet isn't full of complaints, i suspect that it could be a configuration specific problem with my note. I am willing to wipe it in that case, but as it is not rooted i've got to restore its current state manually after that - which might take some hours So I just want to make sure that there's a chance that wiping helps me with my problem.
Anyone? Can (or can't) you confirm my problem?
Thanks and Greetings,
Oliver
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Hi,
I have had my Samsung Charge since it came out. That problem has always persisted on my device. I find it extremely frustrating as the point of a smart phone is that it is multiple devices. I would like this to be my main music player as well since it has an external 32gb SD card and so can hold quite a bit of music.
I am not a developer (I do do technical support), just decided I am trying to figure out - AGAIN - why it does this. I just downloaded a trial of PowerAmp. Don't know if this might help you figure out the problem. Power Amp shows my synced playlists from Windows Media Player not as a Playlist but as a music folder under folders. So far I have synced just one playlist as a test. In the folder in powerAmp, it is in the correct order. In the stock music player it is in reversed order.
I paused in typing, and after syncing multiple playlists at one shot, the list in Poweramp is garbled. The first try created a single folder with all the songs from the playlist in correct order. Now with the sync of multiple lists, I do have a couple like above but the rest either didn't come across or the music came across but not the playlist. The stock music player also has just some not all of the playlists I synced. The music is all in reverse order.
To me this suggest that problem is with the implementation of the sync on the device itself, given you have the same issue. My guess is it reads and writes the playlist from bottom up. I think there is also a burrering problem since it never seems to bring all my lists over and if that happens only some of the music.
Hope this helps, would like very much to know if you find a solution. Samsung is close to losing me as a customer over this. I care less about browsing and connectivity and more about multi functionality. A music player that works is important to me, and am considering an HTC or maybe even an IPhone (!!!) next time around just because of this - and my next upgrade is in 60 days. I HOPE YOU ARE READING THIS SAMSUNG!!!
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dakatisbak said:
Hi,
I have had my Samsung Charge since it came out. That problem has always persisted on my device. I find it extremely frustrating as the point of a smart phone is that it is multiple devices. I would like this to be my main music player as well since it has an external 32gb SD card and so can hold quite a bit of music.
I am not a developer (I do do technical support), just decided I am trying to figure out - AGAIN - why it does this. I just downloaded a trial of PowerAmp. Don't know if this might help you figure out the problem. Power Amp shows my synced playlists from Windows Media Player not as a Playlist but as a music folder under folders. So far I have synced just one playlist as a test. In the folder in powerAmp, it is in the correct order. In the stock music player it is in reversed order.
I paused in typing, and after syncing multiple playlists at one shot, the list in Poweramp is garbled. The first try created a single folder with all the songs from the playlist in correct order. Now with the sync of multiple lists, I do have a couple like above but the rest either didn't come across or the music came across but not the playlist. The stock music player also has just some not all of the playlists I synced. The music is all in reverse order.
To me this suggest that problem is with the implementation of the sync on the device itself, given you have the same issue. My guess is it reads and writes the playlist from bottom up. I think there is also a burrering problem since it never seems to bring all my lists over and if that happens only some of the music.
Hope this helps, would like very much to know if you find a solution. Samsung is close to losing me as a customer over this. I care less about browsing and connectivity and more about multi functionality. A music player that works is important to me, and am considering an HTC or maybe even an IPhone (!!!) next time around just because of this - and my next upgrade is in 60 days. I HOPE YOU ARE READING THIS SAMSUNG!!!
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Hi Oliver,
Just discovered that my Amazon MP3 cloud player has all my playlists I just synced (except one) and the songs are all in the correct order. This is confounding to me as I previously had the same reversed order issue in this player. Not sure if it has anything to do with the fact that I went into the file system dorectly and deleted all the contents from themusic related folders before doing the sync for that one then multiple lists. Not sure what happened with that one list, might be related to the fact that it is a custom CD mix ( old school club music, I need the beats for running!). Am going to try syncing that list as I really like the music that's on it. This would seem to contradict my thinking above though. Seems the issue is with the Samsung stock music itself, not the sync. HTC/Apple here I come...
Galaxy stock mp3 Player
I have Samsung Fascinate and it has the same problem with stock mp3 music player. Songs on playlist are reversed. I also tried a few other players but they are not convenient.
So as previous says we can use Amazon mp3 player and widget. It works good for me. It remembers when I paused and even after reboot. So decided use it. It doesn't interfere with other programs (I use in my car navigation app - Navigon). So its very convenient listen music and have navigation.