screen scratch!!! - Thunderbolt General

I found a minor scratch in my screen today. most likely from having it in my pocket with keys, though I've been careful to not do that.
I've had touchscreen phones for 3 years now and I've never had a scratch on any of my screens (cases, yes)... what gives?!
I'm going to go get a screen protector, but what's different with this phone? I've kept my other phones (BB Storm and OG Moto Droid) in my pockets with keys in the past and never had an issue.

gsxr1kmatt said:
I found a minor scratch in my screen today. most likely from having it in my pocket with keys, though I've been careful to not do that.
I've had touchscreen phones for 3 years now and I've never had a scratch on any of my screens (cases, yes)... what gives?!
I'm going to go get a screen protector, but what's different with this phone? I've kept my other phones (BB Storm and OG Moto Droid) in my pockets with keys in the past and never had an issue.
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Check out Zagg's Invisible shield. I've had it on every screen of my phones since my first touch screen phone. I love the material have it on all my phones, my iPad, and my laptop.

Yes, zagg is pretty swell, tho after awhile it can get a little bit of dust accumulation around the edges. Its also nice because even if you have a scratch on your screen, the material does a pretty good job of hiding the scratch.

that sucks! coming from a droid1 with gorilla glass i was hoping that even though this doesnt have the market name glass that it would be as tough :/

yea, it's not

jacobk said:
that sucks! coming from a droid1 with gorilla glass i was hoping that even though this doesnt have the market name glass that it would be as tough :/
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sadly gorrila glass isnt scratch proof either

adamhlj said:
Yes, zagg is pretty swell, tho after awhile it can get a little bit of dust accumulation around the edges. Its also nice because even if you have a scratch on your screen, the material does a pretty good job of hiding the scratch.
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I agree the dust accumulation to eventual need to replace the shield is kinda upsetting, but otherwise it's amazing stuff. Pretty much impossible to scratch and keeps your device looking new even if you do need to periodically replace the shield due to the dust issue, which is really due to either not letting it adhere correctly or the fact that their fabrication tolerances aren't as high as they need to be. I've had a few not fit exactly; however, in that case they replaced the shield for me at no extra cost sending me out a new one.
And yeah Gorilla Glass isn't impossible to scratch, just significantly more resistant than others.

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My gorilla glass just dramatically failed

Hey guys,
I'm a little pissed right now... I woke up about 3 hours ago, my screen was perfectly scratchless. Now although, i got 3 scratches only from having the phone lay on the desk (display up), typing 2 SMS and trying out new widgetlocker designs.
I didnt do anything else. No putting in pocket (although that worked fine for weeks now), no smashing it on the ground, not even laying it in the sun. Nothing!
Now i got 3 scratches from basically doing ****. One of the 3 is almost 5mm long! Can you belive this? I'm speechless and dissapointed. And worst of all, i cant even explain it! It would be ok if i had had the phone in the pocket, or i threw it around or something. But this, this just sucks
Sorry for whining but i had to get it out.
that's why it's still advisable to put a Screen guard on the DS even though it's a gorilla glass. Remeber, the screeb is scratch resistant but not scratch proof. Good thing is that I applied a SP on my DS since day 1.
Yeah, i applied a screen protector after some minutes of having the phone.. i have the phone like 2 weeks and all the protector is full of scratches... i hope it didnt get to the screen.. yeah.. its not scratch proof.. its the opposite.. scratch magnet haha
sure, your right. But this **** that just happend to me is not reproducable. I just tryed to scratch it with a pen and a knive an _nothing_ happened.
So how the **** can a screen be scratched with my own fingers?! Thats so frustrating. Like winning the lottery. I have had the phone now for over a month and had it always unprotected in my pockets, but now my own ****ing fingers scratch the display? This cant be right.
Sand grains can easily scratch the screen...
scratch
similar thing happened to me, kept phone in pocket on its own. Pulled it out the other day to see a hairline scratch about 2cm long. Gutted
Wuhlifant said:
sure, your right. But this **** that just happend to me is not reproducable. I just tryed to scratch it with a pen and a knive an _nothing_ happened.
So how the **** can a screen be scratched with my own fingers?! Thats so frustrating. Like winning the lottery. I have had the phone now for over a month and had it always unprotected in my pockets, but now my own ****ing fingers scratch the display? This cant be right.
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there is just no possible way that your fingers(or nails) could have scratched the gorilla glass screen. even if it was normal glass it is not possible
but sand(or more accurately SiO2) can scratch your gorilla glass...Easily (as its hardness is 7 on the mohs scale)
it is possible that your screen was scratched earlier & you didnt notice it (sometimes a scratch is not visible till its wiped)
or you could have had some sand particles in your hand..
forget about the current scratches & get a screen protector immediately to prevent from more damage
& btw gorilla glass is only scratch resistant not scratch proof
(but there arent many common things that can scratch it other than sand ofc)
kartkk said:
it is possible that your screen was scratched earlier & you didnt notice it (sometimes a scratch is not visible till its wiped)
or you could have had some sand particles in your hand..
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It definitly wasnt scratched earlier. The sad thing about the 5mm scratch is, that its always visible. The other two are just visible when the screen is off, but the big one is constantly popping out (its more or less breaking up the colours like a prisma)
Yeah its gotta be sand although i would be more happy if it were diamonds
I just put on a protector which came with casemate. Although it has bad reviews (the glass protector), it works quite fine on my device. What i most liked on the gorilla glass itself was that it was very fingerprint resistant. I ll see if the glass protector can keep up with that.
I knew that gorilla glass wasnt scratch immune. But its kinda ironic that only a tiny grain of sand could do so much damage, whereas nothing happend for the past 7 weeks under completely different (tougher) conditions.
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It definitly wasnt scratched earlier. The sad thing about the 5mm scratch is, that its always visible. The other two are just visible when the screen is off, but the big one is constantly popping out (its more or less breaking up the colours like a prisma)
Yeah its gotta be sand although i would be more happy if it were diamonds
I just put on a protector which came with casemate. Although it has bad reviews (the glass protector), it works quite fine on my device. What i most liked on the gorilla glass itself was that it was very fingerprint resistant. I ll see if the glass protector can keep up with that.
I knew that gorilla glass wasnt scratch immune. But its kinda ironic that only a tiny grain of sand could do so much damage, whereas nothing happend for the past 7 weeks under completely different (tougher) conditions.
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what do you mean tougher??diamonds?emerald?
anything even slightly harder than sand can Easily scratch the screen
dont under estimate sand its harder than you think
its harder than steel(hardened steel is harder though)
kartkk said:
what do you mean tougher??diamonds?emerald?
anything even slightly harder than sand can Easily scratch the screen
dont under estimate sand its harder than you think
its harder than steel(hardened steel is harder though)
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Of couse i didnt mean diamonds
I meant the dust and the many sand particles in my pockets and the constant rubbing and bouncing around in my pockets.
So this summer i have to buy a screen protector if i go to the seaside (lots of sand there) . But i will only keep it on for the stay there. I like the screen the way it is !!!scratchless
I'm on my second desire s now and both times I managed to scratch the screen in just a few days of ownership. My previous desire, whilst picking up a couple of fine scratches seemed to survive a bit better somehow, at least on my current desire s it is not very noticeable.
You get over it eventually! I don't use a case or screen protector because they make the phone and screen look too crap IMO. I just accept that it's a working piece of kit and it's gonna pick up wear and tear, although I do my best to avoid damaging it.
You have my sympathy!
I'm also a nudist. Phone already dropped once. Cursed much. But screen is still ok so far.
amonrei said:
I'm also a nudist. Phone already dropped once. Cursed much. But screen is still ok so far.
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How about the case?? The paint still ok?
.sh4d0w. said:
How about the case?? The paint still ok?
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Unfortunately I drink at the weekends, and alcohol and the phone don't mix well, dropped phone twice and have managed to fortunately only scratch the paint from the case bottom left corner and top right, only a couple of tiny scratches on screen, consider myself lucky and I don't have so problem
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Had my Desire S for more than 3 month already. Phone in out of pocket and fingers sometimes a ...little.... bit sandy because of my engineering work.. my screen still look as good as new... My older Motorola XT720 (which is almost coming to a year) screen is also look as good as new too.
I love how htc's commercial that included the WS leak was on a beach.
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contact htc, you should still be under warranty
Its never too late...
Buy a case matte cover...
it comes with a cover and an awesome screen protector...
dat wud serve d purpose...
the cover is nice...i use d almost type...its cool
.sh4d0w. said:
How about the case?? The paint still ok?
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Yup. Fell on the floor. If it happened on a rougher surface it might leave some mark.

Screen protectors

What have you found to be a good screen protector for the Blaze? I have been looking for something that will last. I just got some "C. Skins" that have a two year warranty off of fleabay for a whole $1.99 so I figured I would give them a try. I'm not expecting much for the price, but figured I would give it a shot. My initial report is that it won't stay down around the edges. I might trim a little off the edges and give it another try. (there were 6 in the package so I can experiment on a couple)
What other brands out have a good reputation and work on the Blaze? Thanks for any and all input.
My reply is not specifically what you're looking for, but is another viewpoint.
For over 2 years I carried a Nexus One with me wherever I went. Even though it was my first full screen phone, I only used one of those screen protectors for a few days.
For 2 years it was always carried in my front pocket, mostly in my jeans or shorts, or whatever. I did drop the phone a few times, nothing really catastrophic, but the bigger crime I would commit with my phone is using it sometimes with wet hands, and once or twice I used it in the rain.
My screen for that phone is still in PRISTINE shape. Not a single scratch on it. It has a very very small ding on the phone from when I dropped it once, but when I went to switch carriers, the guy is like, "This phone looks brand spanking new."
It's true I used a silicone style case for the back of the phone, mostly because the N1 is freaking slippery....but the screen was immaculate.
A friend of mine has a similar story with his Iphone 3gs, or whatever it's called. The materials that the phones have been made from for the last few years is pretty durable. I remember watching youtube videos of N1's users taking their brand new phones and marring them with keys, pressing really hard, and they wouldn't scratch.
I have no idea if the screen on this model phone is made of anything similar in a material, but I would certainly assume so, I'm sure most if not all of full screen phones are just as durable.
I didn't even buy a back cover this time, and it's been great.
Anyways, consider going "naked" with your phone. It "feels better".
I've used invisibleShields by Zagg on my past four phones, plus various devices such as digital camera screens and such. They're worth the price.
Cirkustanz said:
My reply is not specifically what you're looking for, but is another viewpoint.
For over 2 years I carried a Nexus One with me wherever I went. Even though it was my first full screen phone, I only used one of those screen protectors for a few days.
For 2 years it was always carried in my front pocket, mostly in my jeans or shorts, or whatever. I did drop the phone a few times, nothing really catastrophic, but the bigger crime I would commit with my phone is using it sometimes with wet hands, and once or twice I used it in the rain.
My screen for that phone is still in PRISTINE shape. Not a single scratch on it. It has a very very small ding on the phone from when I dropped it once, but when I went to switch carriers, the guy is like, "This phone looks brand spanking new."
It's true I used a silicone style case for the back of the phone, mostly because the N1 is freaking slippery....but the screen was immaculate.
A friend of mine has a similar story with his Iphone 3gs, or whatever it's called. The materials that the phones have been made from for the last few years is pretty durable. I remember watching youtube videos of N1's users taking their brand new phones and marring them with keys, pressing really hard, and they wouldn't scratch.
I have no idea if the screen on this model phone is made of anything similar in a material, but I would certainly assume so, I'm sure most if not all of full screen phones are just as durable.
I didn't even buy a back cover this time, and it's been great.
Anyways, consider going "naked" with your phone. It "feels better".
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Thank you for the insight on the screens, I always carry my phone in my front pocket also and I'm worried about cracking the screen if I bend over against something and put pressure on the phone. I might just be overreacting on this but this is my first full screen smarty phone and I don't want to kill it.
Dedridd said:
I've used invisibleShields by Zagg on my past four phones, plus various devices such as digital camera screens and such. They're worth the price.
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Thanks, that is one that I was looking into also.
Anyone else have a recomendation on other brands?
Those screen protector films won't protect against the screen being cracked. Minor scratches, sure.
Having said that, it takes a *LOT* to crack the screens. Sure, it can be done easily, but I've seen iphones and htc incredibles lobbed across the room (not thrown like a baseball mind you, but tossed as if you were intending someone to catch it) and the person mis-threw and the phones were fine.
As far as scratches go......even if the phone does get scratched, (which is really hard to do and it needs to either be an extreme freak accident or something done intentionally, seriously I just took a fork to my nexus one tried to scratch it with the fork) the phone will still work. In order to scratch the screen I think you'd need to have something sharp and very hard, like a roofing nail or the tip of a steak knife.
The fork bent, and the screen is still not scratched.
I really understand where you are coming from on wanting to keep your phone in tip top shape, especially since the phones are expensive nowadays, but what I'm trying to say is don't worry about it so much.
The best thing you can do to not damage your phone is to not let them get wet. Don't be that guy at the bar with your phone sitting on the counter just waiting for some drunk guy to accidentally spill his beer on it.
Put that phone in your front pocket, even if you are wearing tight jeans, and have to crouch over, don't worry, your phone will be fine. I've been telling this over and over to a friend of mine who just recently got his first real phone (blah, an iphone 4s) and he treats the phone like it's an infant.
It's so funny. I'm not saying you should use your phone as a hammer to fix your roof, I'm just saying that the phones are rugged. Seriously, think about how many get sold, if they were so fragile, people would be up in arms every 2 weeks when their phone fell off the table.
Cirkustanz said:
Those screen protector films won't protect against the screen being cracked. Minor scratches, sure.
Having said that, it takes a *LOT* to crack the screens. Sure, it can be done easily, but I've seen iphones and htc incredibles lobbed across the room (not thrown like a baseball mind you, but tossed as if you were intending someone to catch it) and the person mis-threw and the phones were fine.
As far as scratches go......even if the phone does get scratched, (which is really hard to do and it needs to either be an extreme freak accident or something done intentionally, seriously I just took a fork to my nexus one tried to scratch it with the fork) the phone will still work. In order to scratch the screen I think you'd need to have something sharp and very hard, like a roofing nail or the tip of a steak knife.
The fork bent, and the screen is still not scratched.
I really understand where you are coming from on wanting to keep your phone in tip top shape, especially since the phones are expensive nowadays, but what I'm trying to say is don't worry about it so much.
The best thing you can do to not damage your phone is to not let them get wet. Don't be that guy at the bar with your phone sitting on the counter just waiting for some drunk guy to accidentally spill his beer on it.
Put that phone in your front pocket, even if you are wearing tight jeans, and have to crouch over, don't worry, your phone will be fine. I've been telling this over and over to a friend of mine who just recently got his first real phone (blah, an iphone 4s) and he treats the phone like it's an infant.
It's so funny. I'm not saying you should use your phone as a hammer to fix your roof, I'm just saying that the phones are rugged. Seriously, think about how many get sold, if they were so fragile, people would be up in arms every 2 weeks when their phone fell off the table.
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normally I keep my phone in my front pocket with change and a lighter. I'm glad to hear that these phones are durable enough not to worry about them too much. Thanks for the insight on this.
Cirkustanz said:
For over 2 years I carried a Nexus One with me wherever I went. Even though it was my first full screen phone, I only used one of those screen protectors for a few days.
For 2 years it was always carried in my front pocket, mostly in my jeans or shorts, or whatever. I did drop the phone a few times, nothing really catastrophic, but the bigger crime I would commit with my phone is using it sometimes with wet hands, and once or twice I used it in the rain.
My screen for that phone is still in PRISTINE shape. Not a single scratch on it. It has a very very small ding on the phone from when I dropped it once, but when I went to switch carriers, the guy is like, "This phone looks brand spanking new."
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I must be one unlucky guy then. I have always put screen protectors on my phone and kept them in cases. I always assume I'll resell the phone and a case offers me comfort in that sense.
With my N1, I needed to change the screen protector and took it off for a day. A DAY... I was careful with it, didn't put it anywhere crazy, nothing on it, etc. Somehow it managed to go from pristine to "big gash luckily not directly over the LCD".
The one time I dropped that phone (again, going "naked") during a change, I incurred a huge indentation on one of the corners. Anyone who's handled an N1 should realize how big a deal that is because the metalic parts of the body were thick aluminum. I really don't know how I managed that dent cuz it also happened from seat level.
From then on I've had the case and screen protectors for new phones BEFORE even having the phones in my hand. I'll agree with the fact that it takes a ton of force to crack the screen, but it also takes just the right angle just that 1 time to create the tortional force to crack the screen.
I've done Zagg as well as many of the glossy static based protectors. My issues with the static based glossy ones (and the Zagg) was with the corners coming up. My bad Zagg experience may simply have been on the N1 due to the screen being practically "above" the edge of the phone.
I've taken a major liking to the Stealth Shieldz offered on Amazon. The Zagg is just plain skin and I found a little difficult to apply. The Stealth Shieldz product is also a wet application (like the Zagg), but there's a hard plastic under the skin that helps it keep it's shape better, and for that I find it easier to apply. I also found it just lasted longer.
I wish the case options were better. Like a red/black version of the Incipio silicrylic... but the phone's still new, so i imagine the cases will come
I love this phone.
I figured I would post a update. I got the Zagg screen protector and love it. Well worth the $15. So far it's holding up great. I've had it on for about 3 weeks and no problems like the el cheap o protectors that would scratch from just sliding my fingers over the screen. And it has a lifetime warranty so if there is any problems I can send it back.
thanks again everyone for your input on this.
I just went with a case no screen protector. My phone is always in a safe place so I always come out with no scratches etc. When I do go with screen protector I often go with zagg or xtremeguard for my other phones.
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Has anyone ever used an anti glare screen protector? I've been trying to find one but dont know what brands are any good
I got the invisible shield and as far as I can see it's pretty perfect. Very happy with it.
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XOSkins.
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Some of those protectors have a treatment on that that acts like polarization. I wear polarized lenses and if I turn the phone one way I can see everything, and if I turn it another, poof....it's gone.
I'd go to a store and try several out if this is a concern for you.
Ballistic case. So well made and feels so solid you want to drop it off your roof.
I personally have also always bought Skinomi screen protectors/full phone protectors on amazon. I NEVER get the dry screen protectors - I just suck at putting them on. Spraying a solution on the screen protector to install it also allows you to adjust where the protector is before it cures to the screen. Just make sure you do it quickly or you will be looking at the same bits of dust for a very long time!
I have always been huge at keeping screen protectors and cases on my phones. I have tried everything from the Matted protectors, to the really cheap ones, and I have tried the Invisible Shield by Zagg, and recently I bought a Ghost Armor protector for my phone. Apparently its supposed to be fingerprint resistant and grease and oil repellent, but it seems like it attracts oil and grease more than anything. The one thing that I hate about the Invisible Shield and the Ghost Armor is the material used. I know its supposed to be scratch resistant, but I hate the feeling of it. The whole rubbery material does not go well with a touchscreen phone, and your fingers stick alot. On top of that it has these weird ripples on it that make the screen look kinda weird. I am actually thinking of removing Ghost Armor and just going to the cheap ones that cost about $5
I am always the type of person who gets a screen protector within the first few hours of owning a phone, but I went about a week without one when I first got the Blaze because I couldn't find one, and have found that the screen is extremely scratch resistant and haven't bothered with one since.
3 months of typical use and so far not a single scratch on the screen, even after sharing the same pocket with some coins and keys.
I just ordered the Skinomi Drytech screen protector. Will update with pics and a brief review once it arrives.

[Q] To Screen Protect...Or Not To Screen Protect

With Gorilla Glass 2 on the Infinity, what is your opinion on placing a screen protector on this device? And if 'Yes,' which one?
I have one on my phone and it has been great, but does a tablet like this warrant a screen protector.
For myself, I plan on having the device in a rooCase when it becomes available.
Thanks for your input.
I had a protector on my NexusOne that has Gorilla V1.
Dumbest idea ever!
I removed it about a year ago. It fell down so many times, no scratches.
Screen is like when I bought it.
I don't think you need a protector with Gorilla anymore.
if you take it on the go a lot - screen protect it
if you have kids - screen protect it
if you like to set it up and down on stands - screen protect it
if you dont have a leather case - screen protect it.
if you just like the awsome smooth feeling of the glass, then leave it naked and touch it all you want
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With Gorilla Glass 2 on the Infinity, what is your opinion on placing a screen protector on this device? And if 'Yes,' which one?
I have one on my phone and it has been great, but does a tablet like this warrant a screen protector.
For myself, I plan on having the device in a rooCase when it becomes available.
Thanks for your input.
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Screen Protectors usually make for a tight fit with docks. You may have to do a little trimming around the docking points depending on the protector you choose.
When I carry it arround the house, I don't need a protector, Gorilla Glass doesn't seem to get scratches easily (nor does the back of my Infinity, despite what some said).
For going out I either take the dock which encloses the screen within the whole thing or I take TranSleeve (originally meant for the Prime), which is helpful for typing or watching media (two standing positions). I don't see a point of having this kind of sleeve for both (although this seems nice: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28593251&postcount=19), although I have bought the cheapest (~$3) neoprene etui/sleeve for 10" netbooks available (somehow they tend to be cheaper than the same products for 10" tablets): http://vegacom.eu/data/gfx/pictures/large/6/6/9566_7.jpg?337768
This is more for suddently-dropping-the-bag-on-the-floor kind of situation than to avoid scratches, but I feel better with these precautions (I also carry a few books in the backpack quite often, so it seems safer to have some kind of cover).
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When I carry it arround the house, I don't need a protector, Gorilla Glass doesn't seem to get scratches easily (nor does the back of my Infinity, despite what some said).
For going out I either take the dock which encloses the screen within the whole thing or I take TranSleeve (originally meant for the Prime), which is helpful for typing or watching media (two standing positions).
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Are we talking screen protectors or cases here? I'm thinking I'm going to grab a slip case for the tablet/dock to just slip it in something light.
KilerG said:
Are we talking screen protectors or cases here? I'm thinking I'm going to grab a slip case for the tablet/dock to just slip it in something light.
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I was answering the question if one should protect the screen with gorilla glass, but ok, good point. I would never use something that would blur the image on the Infinity, but I can understand somebody would want to do it to be able to use the tablet in direct sunlight. But to avoid scratches? Hell no!
You can some brutal things to gorilla glass without scratching it. Most people don't need a screen protector. The huge elephant in the room is dust, which might surprise some folks who don't have to live with much of it. If you live in an especially dusty region, you should seriously consider protecting even a GG2 screen. The glass has not been invented that won't scratch if the right piece of dust gets dragged across it just so. Hammering a nail with an HTC one x is impressive (reference to a youtube vid I saw once), but not the most practical test. Some dust particles are harder than nails, I assure you.
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I was answering the question if one should protect the screen with gorilla glass, but ok, good point. I would never use something that would blur the image on the Infinity, but I can understand somebody would want to do it to be able to use the tablet in direct sunlight. But to avoid scratches? Hell no!
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I don't think I'll put one on mine. It's not gong to get thrown around like my phone does lol. My phone has to have a screen protector...
An anti glare screen protector could be a good idea
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fortunz said:
You can some brutal things to gorilla glass without scratching it. Most people don't need a screen protector. The huge elephant in the room is dust, which might surprise some folks who don't have to live with much of it. If you live in an especially dusty region, you should seriously consider protecting even a GG2 screen. The glass has not been invented that won't scratch if the right piece of dust gets dragged across it just so. Hammering a nail with an HTC one x is impressive (reference to a youtube vid I saw once), but not the most practical test. Some dust particles are harder than nails, I assure you.
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Definitely +1 concerning the dust, but concerning the damage reduction potential of Gorilla Glass: when I got my LG Optimus 2x about one and a half years ago, I rubbed the tip of a knife on the screen (Gorilla Glass v1) to and fro in a ballsy whim during a dinner with friends. Turns out it was a bad idea: although I have since upgraded to the SGS2 and the LG is now carried around by my wife, it still bears a nice mark (scratch).
Although, with a probability close to certainty, a normal screen would've been utterly destroyed (I wasn't exactly gentle), the potential for damage is still there and it doesn't even take visceral violence. It is chemically hardened glass, it can take a beating but it is only an extra line of defense.
For the sake of on-topic conversation: I have never used a screen protector on any device I own. I take good care of them and mostly use them eitehr indoors or in a shaded area (inside the train, for example). If you'd need outdoor visibility, consider it. If you have the dock, think about a good sleeve or case (I have bought an relatively cheap leather one on eBay and, although it does add significant bulk, it does a commendable job as far as protection goes).
fortunz said:
You can some brutal things to gorilla glass without scratching it. Most people don't need a screen protector. The huge elephant in the room is dust, which might surprise some folks who don't have to live with much of it. If you live in an especially dusty region, you should seriously consider protecting even a GG2 screen. The glass has not been invented that won't scratch if the right piece of dust gets dragged across it just so. Hammering a nail with an HTC one x is impressive (reference to a youtube vid I saw once), but not the most practical test. Some dust particles are harder than nails, I assure you.
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Dust? Really? Have you seen the Gorilla Glass 2 vendor video? They threw everything at it but the kitchen sink. If dust was ever to be their demise, Gorilla would lose ALL credibility with their product. I'm hardly worried.
I love the "Guerilla" typo, it should be an extra-hardened version! ;D
My post here shows why you'd use a anti-glare film on the TF700T.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28362111&postcount=2806
When I got mine I found it was almost impossible to use out on the pattio without the anti-glare film.
The glass is simply a perfect reflector giving very crisp and detailed images of everything around and abowe you overshadowing the data on the screen.
The same issue faces almost all tabs and phones though.
The anti-glare screen does do odd things to the pixels due to the high density, but overall it works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28366344&postcount=2815
xRevilatioNx said:
Dust? Really? Have you seen the Gorilla Glass 2 vendor video? They threw everything at it but the kitchen sink. If dust was ever to be their demise, Gorilla would lose ALL credibility with their product. I'm hardly worried.
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GG is tough and great, but you underestimate the power of dust.
+1 for an Anti-glare protector. Not for it's "protection" qualities, but for it's anti-glare qualities... I just got my TF700 and the screen is beautiful, but very reflective... Plus the anti-glares help reduce finger prints significantly. Just get a good one - you usually get what you pay for when it comes to anti-glare protectors.
However, I do worry that it may interfere with the screen quality too much on the TF700 though (they usually create some level of "pixelation" effect which may ruin the TF700 "experience" - not sure as I don't have one yet!
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I refer to the effect of anti-glares as the rainbow effect. It acts a little like a prism per pixel, especially noticeable on white screens as you'd expect. Some people just see it as noise. Some don't see it.
I'm undecided about whether or not its worth it. It always has been before (bonus: fewer prints), but I've never had a screen this beautiful before either, and I'm not sure I want to obscure it.
My argument is pretty simple: the Infinity is so pretty I would never want to blemish it with any permanent type of screen protector. And it gets so hot in direct sunlight during summer here anyway that I prefer to stay indoors with it ;>
d14b0ll0s said:
My argument is pretty simple: the Infinity is so pretty I would never want to blemish it with any permanent type of screen protector. And it gets so hot in direct sunlight during summer here anyway that I prefer to stay indoors with it ;>
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The screen have too much resistance it grabs the finger.
It's not as smooth to touch on ipad screen, didn't anyone noticed it?
~ not sure WHY there is so much confusion............
Infinity comes with Gorilla GLASS ....>> best best thing since slice bread ...
Like adding a bumper bar to a TANK ..............
IMHO =adding 'protector sticky thing = sounds , looks DUMB , and not to mention COMPLETE WAISTED CASH ....
** send me that 20-40$ pls ** Lol lol
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XO, BSE, SGP or something else?

Which will be the best screen protector? Which is the best based off your past experiences?
I am in the UK and willing to order from the US but I'm not sure which is the best. I still need to sell my unused XO from my Galaxy Nexus
UK here too. I've tried Zagg, Skinomi and BSE in the past. BSE are undoubtedly the best of those 3
I'm having trouble deciding on a screen protector as well, but I've always gotten the InvisibleSHIELD. I mostly do so because I can buy the full body skin (or any of the kits they sell), then take it to the mall and they'll apply it all free of charge. If they screw up (they never do), then they'll give me a brand new one. If it gets all scratched up, gets a bubble, or ANYTHING, I just take it to the mall (without a receipt or box or anything) and they'll replace it all totally free. If I screw up applying other protectors, I don't want to have to ship it back and wait for a new one. While others do sometimes have kiosks (from what I've heard), I have yet to actually see one. I've never minded the whole orange peel thing personally, so it doesn't really affect my decision by much. I just love their warranty in combination with the kiosks. It makes it very easy.
Another thing I'm worried about is this: If I get the full body kit, can I still use a case, or will the friction of putting the case on be enough to screw it up? Has anyone had this issue? Should I just get a front and back kit instead? I plan on using case with the phone to protect from drops and what not, I usually just get a Speck Candy Shell or something, although I'm a huge fan of the LifeProof cases since they look good and offer great protection (either or not they'll make a Nexus 4 case is a different story, I suppose).
BSE all the way
...already on order.
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How is the touch feeling of BSE ? Similar to glass or sticky like Zagg ?
They are all very similar. I usually go with Skinomi because of the price. I already pre-ordered it off Amazon.
I love XO skins. I just ordered one for the Nexus 4.
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sgp steinheil is the best it feels smooth like its not there but is extremly hard my nexus s has deep scratches on the screen protector that havent even touched the glass
The best screen protector... is you! Don't slide your phone across the table, don't drop it, and don't put it in your pocket with potentially "dangerous" things (pens, keys, etc.), and all should be ok
I'm not a big fan of screen protectors; I like to have full touch control with my screen, and would rather not worry about what was the cause of my screen not registering that input (was it the screen protector, or just the phone itself?).
Well I don't know what kind of screen protectors you've been using but the ones I've used don't have any effect on the sensitivity of the touchscreen. I am careful with my stuff anyway but the small hairline scratches really annoy/bother me for some reason.
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The best screen protector... is you! Don't slide your phone across the table, don't drop it, and don't put it in your pocket with potentially "dangerous" things (pens, keys, etc.), and all should be ok
I'm not a big fan of screen protectors; I like to have full touch control with my screen, and would rather not worry about what was the cause of my screen not registering that input (was it the screen protector, or just the phone itself?).
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Protection is absolutely necessary for me since I work in construction/maintenance
I personally love steinheil! ( SGP )
I'm going for Ghost Armor actually.
Your question is the best for the N4. But nobody has any of these screen protectors made for the N4, and only a couple really lucky people have the phone. None of the opinions in your poll are actually based on experience with this device and this protector. Wait until people start getting them and then look at reviews.
chrisjcks said:
BSE all the way
...already on order.
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where you order it??? Icant decide
I'm going with BSE because I've heard a lot of good things about them. Plus I like the wet apply idea. I've ALWAYS had problems with the sticky dry screen protectors. One little piece of fuzz or dust and you have annoying bubbles every where. And over time bits of fuzz/lint get up around the corners and it slowly starts to peel off.
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The best screen protector... is you! Don't slide your phone across the table, don't drop it, and don't put it in your pocket with potentially "dangerous" things (pens, keys, etc.), and all should be ok
I'm not a big fan of screen protectors; I like to have full touch control with my screen, and would rather not worry about what was the cause of my screen not registering that input (was it the screen protector, or just the phone itself?).
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I'm sorry, but it doesn't matter what you do. Before you know it you'll be in direct sunlight and you'll see all sorts of small little scratches. Then later, you'll always know they're there. I'm OCD about it. I can't stand having the tiny little scratches because I want my phone to stay new. I think the first time you put a phone in your pocket, it gets some sort of tiny little scratch from something.. then over time they build up and make the screen look aweful. Plus its funny you say pens and keys because those things wont scratch gorilla glass. I've tired a key on my old Atrix and nothing comes from it. It's actually particles of dust that have maybe glass or something else hard, or sand.
I want a dry applied one and really wanna know if a dry one can cover the entire screen of Nexus 4.......
XO Skins are the ones I have been using for a few years now. From what I have read xo and sgp are the only ones without orange peel. I don't know how the sgp do on curves though I posted a review of xo in my signature when I had the samsung google nexus
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Plus its funny you say pens and keys because those things wont scratch gorilla glass. I've tired a key on my old Atrix and nothing comes from it. It's actually particles of dust that have maybe glass or something else hard, or sand.
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Exactly, all these videos of people dropping coins/keys on the phone are pointless. swipe over that phone just once with sand paper and its all over...
Emama said:
I want a dry applied one and really wanna know if a dry one can cover the entire screen of Nexus 4.......
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Me too. I ordered some of these:
http://www.protectionfilms24.com/article/vikuiti-adqc27-screen-protector-google-nexus-4-126198.html
They were great on my G2 but it has a flat screen. I'll let people know after I get them. I will be disappointed if they don't properly stay on the screen.
What is this "Orange peel" that people are referring to?

How Scratch Resistant is the Z3 Display?

Hi all,
I don't really want to use the screen protector and I thought I'd ask the question about the glass that the screen is made of.
I understand that it is not Gorilla Glass, and that it does not have the plastic 'shatter protection' layer on it - so how scratch resistant is it if I don't use the protector that came with the phone?
There doesn't seem to be a test online yet, and not much being said about this specific. And no, I don't want to try it out on my phone and report back!!
What do we know? Anyone scratched theirs yet, if so how?
Thanks guys.
I am testing one right now and it has a loooong scratch after ONE day of using and I was carrying it in my jacket pocket so no keys or sharp objects
Mortus17 said:
I am testing one right now and it has a loooong scratch after ONE day of using and I was carrying it in my jacket pocket so no keys or sharp objects
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Screens do not scratch themselves... Just saying.
Mortus17 said:
I am testing one right now and it has a loooong scratch after ONE day of using and I was carrying it in my jacket pocket so no keys or sharp objects
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Wow - this guy's phone must be screwed then:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/See-...with-a-real-knife-on-a-Sony-Xperia-Z3_id61723
Although perhaps the screen only gets scratched if you *don't* use a sharp object?
Well, have the phone for about 2 weeks and always put it in my pocket (without keys or money/coins) and seems fine here...
Of course there will also be those who somehow get scratches on it or swear by a screenprotector, but as I never seem to be able to get those on properly without any bubbles I'm not a big fan. Might try in the near future anyway, but seems to do fine without it so far
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Well, have the phone for about 2 weeks and always put it in my pocket (without keys or money/coins) and seems fine here...
Of course there will also be those who somehow get scratches on it or swear by a screenprotector, but as I never seem to be able to get those on properly without any bubbles I'm not a big fan. Might try in the near future anyway, but seems to do fine without it so far
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You could try a tempered glass screen protector i never had that problem with them. and they feel better then plastic screen protectors.
I'd agree with the tempered glass protectors, I haven't gotten dust under one yet, and if you do, just take it off, get the dust off, and re apply. They're much much better than any normal protector and a lot lot easier to apply and re-position if you get it wrong.
Use Nillkin tempered glass and you won't even see you have something on your screen.
I'm using that SP on Z1 and Z2 and it's perfect.
It's on Z1 for almost a year and it's great...
You have to apply it careful and precise and it'll be awesome.
As I said, it's on my Z1 for almost a year and on Z2 for 4-5 months and there's no a single scratch on them.
And yeah...it's incredibly easy to apply it because it's glass/plastic.
It's not thin like plain SP, so there's no way you could have air bubbles under it.
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Use Nillkin tempered glass and you won't even see you have something on your screen.
I'm using that SP on Z1 and Z2 and it's perfect.
It's on Z1 for almost a year and it's great...
You have to apply it careful and precise and it'll be awesome.
As I said, it's on my Z1 for almost a year and on Z2 for 4-5 months and there's no a single scratch on them.
And yeah...it's incredibly easy to apply it because it's glass/plastic.
It's not thin like plain SP, so there's no way you could have air bubbles under it.
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I might have to give that a go; just tried putting on 5 plastic protectors but they all failed my zero-dust policy!
Do not overestimate the strength of the screen. It scratches incredibly easily. You'd best keep it safe. Many screen protectors are almost 100% transparent nowadays anyway.
The screen on the front of my Z3 has been fine without a screen protector but the back got a scratch from merely sliding across a table a few centimeters. Not very noticeable but makes me wonder if the front and back are different types of glass?
Having never gotten a scratch on any of my previous phones, personally I think the Z3 glass is slightly on the soft side as I've already got a few tiny scratches on it, which is surprising.
I think it's time to invest in a Tempered Glass screen protector, PET film feels like crap.
Ummm...
Well, I'm pretty sure that in most of cases that won't happen, but...
https://www.google.com/search?q=self+crack+screen
Just quoting...
I have to agree with the glass being very soft, don't understand how I've gotten these scratches on the front and back. Been super careful and didn't have anything in my pockets. Have 2 nice ones on the front and a couple on the back from putting it in and taking it out of my empty pockets.
How easy is the glass to replace on these phones btw, I think the back is very easy but anyone know about the front? Can the glass be replaced without getting a whole new screen and digitizer?
Screen protectors are a MUST!
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What do we know? Anyone scratched theirs yet, if so how?
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Let me start my introducing myself to the Android community. The Z3 is my first Android after iPhone 1,3,4 & 4S. I carried my 4S in my pocket without a screen protector for 3+ years and it still looks flawless. I'm extremely careful with my phones but that is still astonishing to me. My very first day with my Z3 I somehow put a nasty scratch right across the front of the display (not a small one either, it's deep). It was in my pocket all by itself. After I noticed the horrific damage I had done to my brand new $600 phone I almost puked. I literally turn my pockets inside out looking for what may have done the damage. It must've been one of those pesky lint pieces. Since then, the Z3 has gone back in the box in the closet until my screen protector arrives. Needless to say, SCREEN PROTECTORS ARE A MUST for this phone.
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Let me start my introducing myself to the Android community. The Z3 is my first Android after iPhone 1,3,4 & 4S. I carried my 4S in my pocket without a screen protector for 3+ years and it still looks flawless. I'm extremely careful with my phones but that is still astonishing to me. My very first day with my Z3 I somehow put a nasty scratch right across the front of the display (not a small one either, it's deep). It was in my pocket all by itself. After I noticed the horrific damage I had done to my brand new $600 phone I almost puked. I literally turn my pockets inside out looking for what may have done the damage. It must've been one of those pesky lint pieces. Since then, the Z3 has gone back in the box in the closet until my screen protector arrives. Needless to say, SCREEN PROTECTORS ARE A MUST for this phone.
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Well I wouldn't say a must... Quality varies per each batch of glass for their phones. Remember Sony uses their own screen glass technology so if you have a big scratch and don't know why its a probable quality control issue. I've had my Z3 for about 3 months now naked both sides. Not even a micro scratch I could see on the screen and that goes for my Z3 Tablet Compact too. You should be able to keep this phone naked if you be careful (duh) like not putting you phone with sharp objects like keys and maybe cleaning out your pockets once in a while... If a freak accident happens well those always suck but there's no way to stop that other than insuring your phone. Its probably the reason HTC's "Uh-Oh!" service has been getting the talk lately.
I believe on Sony's Z3 Compact forum it was mentioned that they use either GG3 or Dragontrail X, I'm guessing same for the Z3 you may get one or the other though GG3 is slightly more scratch resistant according to tests.
I used some Decal Skin covers which looked good but eventually started to peel off so i removed them and my Z3 was "naked" for about 10 days until the tempered screen and back protector arrived. In that time I have a huge mysterious scratch on the back on the device and also a smaller one! I could not believe it i actually thought it was a hair that was stuck to it, this big long windy scratch....
The weird thing is i haven't really left the house through studying for exams..... very strange.
Its also incredibly slippy "naked" so that's another consideration you need to make.
I would definately go for the tempered glass, i got mine for £4 from Amazon (front and back) and they're awesome, it also makes the screen kinda "jump out" and colours look great.
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Let me start my introducing myself to the Android community. The Z3 is my first Android after iPhone 1,3,4 & 4S. I carried my 4S in my pocket without a screen protector for 3+ years and it still looks flawless. I'm extremely careful with my phones but that is still astonishing to me. My very first day with my Z3 I somehow put a nasty scratch right across the front of the display (not a small one either, it's deep). It was in my pocket all by itself. After I noticed the horrific damage I had done to my brand new $600 phone I almost puked. I literally turn my pockets inside out looking for what may have done the damage. It must've been one of those pesky lint pieces. Since then, the Z3 has gone back in the box in the closet until my screen protector arrives. Needless to say, SCREEN PROTECTORS ARE A MUST for this phone.
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In your case, I don't think it's a scratch but a screen crack! Take a look closer under direct sunlight to be fixed

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