I once had a rom that allowed java programs to access the internet through t-mobiles wap, unfortunately there were other instability issues so I removed it. I can't even find it anymore, does anybody know of any roms that work with t-mobiles wap, so I can run opera and get away from pie.
It seems I was able to find the solution. jbed seems to use the system proxy settings, which appears to be the key to it all. i will post the links to a review of all the different midlet managers
Okay, I've been using Skyfire on my Shadow with the T-mobile $5.99 plan for a few day's now. Of coarse it doesn't load pages as quick as a WiFi or 3G connection, but it does in fact work pretty well. After an extensive amount of research & tweaking with my internet settings (for a while) , I was able to figured out how to make it work. Its pretty simple & my way is actually a little more complicated. The simple fact is that Skyfire can not operate though proxy & I want to keep my proxy settings in case I may still need them.
How to:
1. Download a little & very useful application called nodata from here. http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility/
(you must register first in order to download any apps at Modaco)
2. Install nodata cab.
3. On the Shadow (these settings should be very similar on the Dash & any WM6 - 6.0 Smartphone & PDA) go to settings, connections, GPRS, New connection, name it what ever you want (I named mines T-mobile new APN), connects to The Internet, Under Access Point enter epc.tmobile.com & hit done.
4. On the Shadow, from the home screen hit start, click on the nodata application icon. Ones the application opens hit the toggle button to disable the data connections that are enabled on your phone except for the new T-mobile APN connection that you've just made. Hit exit & you'll be prompted to confirm the exit, so hit yes. In my case, I have a data connection through proxy for web browsing to the internet & a second proxy connection for downloading emails through my work connection. If you want to find out how I did both connections you can find it out here. http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1275435
If you've followed the steps correctly than Skyfire will work. I'm not sure if the new APN is available in every state yet, so that may also be another factor why it may not work for you. (I'm in Chicago).
I have to give credit to where its due. I found the APN info here. http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1434021
Jotiger-
this is a great trick. i swa it at shadow site. i did it on my shadow and my dash. but when done in my tilt which is unlock and running on t-mobile it does not work i wonder what it is.the wap.voicestream.com works for opera google maps and pie. have no idea
T-Mobile is about to do away with T-Zones and replace it with something called Web2Go which from what I understand will be more expensive than $5.99/mo.
Had my Transformer since Tuesday and web browsing was great, I was getting desktop versions of websites.
Today I installed the OTA update build is now - ww_epad-8.2.3.9-20110423. Now I have started to get mobile versions of websites
I have done some searching on Google and found various bits about putting "about:debug" in browser, then going into settings and changing "UAString". But I cannot find this under the settings / debug tab on the transformer?
Anyone know how to change this or what needs to be done to allow me to access desktop versions of websites again.
Thanks
There is an option in the Internet Browser called something like "User String" i think. Change it to desktop or tablet.
1. Internet Browser
2. Settings > Advanced > User Agent String
I did not have my tab with me at the time of writing this.
Easy when you know how...
Thanks a lot, couldn't see it for looking.
Settings / Advanced / User Agent String.
Hmm, interesting. Mine is still going to the full sites...
I have a peculiar problem and i guess, from google search results, that many others have similar problem.
I am using Samsung Galaxy S 2 mobile phone.
Of late, the default Browser application on my samsung galaxy s2 just keeps coming up with the standard "Web page not available" page when I try to connect to any website.
I generally use default browser to access the web and this used to work perfectly. Of late it has developed this problem. I then tried Dolphine, Miren, Skyfire and this also did the same!
All other applications are fine and can connect to the internet perfectly well. Only In browser, which was downloaded prior to this problem, works fine.
So it seems like something is amiss with my settings / files that the default Browser, Dolphin and Skyfire use.
Any ideas?
You can also reach me on [email protected].
Hoping that someone here would be able to resolve this issue.
Is there a way to go past the website's UA checks and always load their desktop versions instead of mobile? Asking because I already set in the preferences of all my phone browsers to always load the full desktop version and still, many websites somehow know I'm using a mobile device and force the mobile version.
Anyone found solution for Dolphin or Boat browsers? I've read about "about:debug" and "about:useragent" showing extra UA menu elements which in my case does nothing (android 6). I was also unable to find an user agent switching app that could always force Desktop parameters to the websites.
Even if there's no immefiate solution, I would like to know the principle websites choose which version to load irrespective to browser settings. Is it network/data/service provider settings, or specific browser/resolution signature? Thanks a lot for any ideas.
Menergy said:
Is there a way to go past the website's UA checks and always load their desktop versions instead of mobile? Asking because I already set in the preferences of all my phone browsers to always load the full desktop version and still, many websites somehow know I'm using a mobile device and force the mobile version.
Anyone found solution for Dolphin or Boat browsers? I've read about "about:debug" and "about:useragent" showing extra UA menu elements which in my case does nothing (android 6). I was also unable to find an user agent switching app that could always force Desktop parameters to the websites.
Even if there's no immefiate solution, I would like to know the principle websites choose which version to load irrespective to browser settings. Is it network/data/service provider settings, or specific browser/resolution signature? Thanks a lot for any ideas.
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If the problem is website's UA check, often you can choose an AdWay or something similar, on my phone i'm surprised to see as "auto check" some pop up, check and box.
But for what never stop working, that's need update every day...
There isn't much you can do in this case.
Sometimes in some browsers you've an option with whitelist or other but I do believe they can be related to the mobile display or desktop of a particular site.
Maybe there is an add-on xposed or plugin that I don't know
My problem is that some websites force the mobile version no matter what, as well as lack on services that I need in there, and you couldn't circumvent that in any way.
Yesterday I had to verify an email address and tried with all the browsers I have on my phone (like 5 different). They were all set to display the desktop version and all were forced into the mobile. But on the mobile you couldn't verify the link, probably on purpose (security if on mobile device), and I would not have access to laptop/desktop browser by the evening. The same is with many other features/missing services on forced mobile websites so I want to find a way to have full functionality when on the go.
Does AdWay have options for influencing data the browser notifies to the websites? Anything similar to Mozilla-code based Random Agent Spoofer browser add-on where you can basically force the browser to inject any incorrect data and prevent other data leaking while browsing? Any special cookie mechanisms inherent to mobile browsers only?
Alternatively, can I access browser settings with something like about:config/debug or else? Dolphin, Boat, others? I am sure the browser notifies the correct desktop user agent, there's something else, probably very simple, that tells websites the connection is from a portable device...
Menergy said:
My problem is that some websites force the mobile version no matter what, as well as lack on services that I need in there, and you couldn't circumvent that in any way.
Yesterday I had to verify an email address and tried with all the browsers I have on my phone (like 5 different). They were all set to display the desktop version and all were forced into the mobile. But on the mobile you couldn't verify the link, probably on purpose (security if on mobile device), and I would not have access to laptop/desktop browser by the evening. The same is with many other features/missing services on forced mobile websites so I want to find a way to have full functionality when on the go.
Does AdWay have options for influencing data the browser notifies to the websites? Anything similar to Mozilla-code based Random Agent Spoofer browser add-on where you can basically force the browser to inject any incorrect data and prevent other data leaking while browsing? Any special cookie mechanisms inherent to mobile browsers only?
Alternatively, can I access browser settings with something like about:config/debug or else? Dolphin, Boat, others? I am sure the browser notifies the correct desktop user agent, there's something else, probably very simple, that tells websites the connection is from a portable device...
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I use "user agent switcher" for chrome and it always works. It requires root though.
Can you provide an example of a website that refuses to show the desktop version?
And additionally, your build.prop contains your device's information. The browser might be transmitting that information to the website.
Thank you, the build.prop info was very helpful. I am not rooted yet as I've got my new phone just less than a month ago so still exploring, but can't really find the file, even among the hidden files on the internal memory. I will explore more and see how it goes.
I am in the UK so for example one of the websites that always loads the limited mobile instead of desktop version is the one of my service provider, EE, ee. co. uk (apologies for the intervals, I'm otherwise not allowed to post it). This mobile version is too basic and 60% of what you could do on a desktop version is cut. I've been on Three Mobile and sometimes I could get their full website working, sometimes not. Other websites are let's say bbc. co. uk and other media/news/bank websites that know, no matter browser settings, you are accessing them from a portable device.
Unfortunately I do not trust Google and any of their products so avoid voluntarily and (un)intentionally handing any personal data over to them. I would have used Mozilla for Android if it was close to the functionality Boat and Dolphin browsers provide. I even contacted the Dolphin team having previously assisted them but have got no feedback whatsoever. There must be a way for editing these unusual browser settings, but as pointed out above, I suspect it has something to do will submitting device ID info from within system folders. Thus probably only browser developers could tell us how the problem could be circumvented (and hopefully at least for now, with no root).
Or the developers of addons such as the Random Agent Spoofer or the user agent switchers.
Menergy said:
Thank you, the build.prop info was very helpful. I am not rooted yet as I've got my new phone just less than a month ago so still exploring, but can't really find the file, even among the hidden files on the internal memory. I will explore more and see how it goes.
I am in the UK so for example one of the websites that always loads the limited mobile instead of desktop version is the one of my service provider, EE, ee. co. uk (apologies for the intervals, I'm otherwise not allowed to post it). This mobile version is too basic and 60% of what you could do on a desktop version is cut. I've been on Three Mobile and sometimes I could get their full website working, sometimes not. Other websites are let's say bbc. co. uk and other media/news/bank websites that know, no matter browser settings, you are accessing them from a portable device.
Unfortunately I do not trust Google and any of their products so avoid voluntarily and (un)intentionally handing any personal data over to them. I would have used Mozilla for Android if it was close to the functionality Boat and Dolphin browsers provide. I even contacted the Dolphin team having previously assisted them but have got no feedback whatsoever. There must be a way for editing these unusual browser settings, but as pointed out above, I suspect it has something to do will submitting device ID info from within system folders. Thus probably only browser developers could tell us how the problem could be circumvented (and hopefully at least for now, with no root).
Or the developers of addons such as the Random Agent Spoofer or the user agent switchers.
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The build.prop is a text file which should be located in system/ folder. And you usually can't view the contents of that folder without root, so that's why you haven't been able to find it.
I visited ee.co.uk using chrome, and I was able to switch between the mobile and desktop version of the site without any issues, even without using the UA changing app. All I did was select "request desktop site" from the side menu.
I tried using CM's stock browser though, and just like you experienced, the same website refused to load in desktop mode. I even went as far as changing the UA in its settings menu and even that didn't work.
So all that you wrote in the last two paragraphs have been confirmed.
Right now, it's either chrome or root until the devs fix/properly implement their UA changing feature.
I was testing other browsers the whole morning here and finally reluctantly tried Firefox. Somehow its Android version never impressed me or was too buggy for me when tested before. Probably because just before going for it I tried Pale Moon and have seen that I can readily edit just about everything via about:config. The Pale Moon's UI settings menu was however completely missing (probably a bug), along with no other controls, so I had to skip it.
So I am glad to report that using Firefox's "Request desktop website" option I finally was able to load desktop versions of websites that were forcing me to always have their mobile one instead. This means that Firefix for now becomes my main browser. As suggested by you, I tried first with Chrome but with no success (using its internal user agent options). There were a few Chrome user agent switchers in the market but although some of them did not explicitly require root, upon starting them they did so I had to uninstall them.
My question yet remains, what exactly tells websites not to load full version, even if browser's user agent reports the correct values. I will leave this to me as I go deeper into this. Glad to have got what I wanted
Thanks a lot for all your help.
Just to add for all having my problem and using Firefox for Android.
By default Firefox will always load the mobile website version and every time you will need to tick "Request desktop site" if you dislike it. As I do, there is an addon called "Desktop by Default" that will always keep the tick on for you. You may instead try creating a new string called "general.useragent.override" adding a desktop OS signature but it won't work (tested by me) for exactly the same websites I had issues with above, so do use the addon instead. It will however work for all other websites that don't have issues with Desktop mode on other browsers.
There is another string that I disabled also called general.useragent.site_specific_overrides.
Tweaking with the Chrome for Android settings seems to require root so Firefox in my case is a God bless. I hope this is helpful to all others with my issue...