I've always used 209 on most my devices but with this enormous screen I think we could go much smaller. Usually changing the density messes with certain apps. Anyone have suggestions on the best settings that has worked for them on the TB?
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@youneek, i had tried both of the lcd density apps (paid and free ones) and neither of them works on the thunderbolt. quite disappointed because the first thing i wanted to do after rooting was to change that density.
*sigh*
hopefully the developers are working on it. i guess i need to go ahead and be pro-active and email them about it.
were you able to change it at all from the default 240?
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@youneek, i had tried both of the lcd density apps (paid and free ones) and neither of them works on the thunderbolt. quite disappointed because the first thing i wanted to do after rooting was to change that density.
*sigh*
hopefully the developers are working on it. i guess i need to go ahead and be pro-active and email them about it.
were you able to change it at all from the default 240?
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pretty sure you have to be rooted to change the density? if you are not it won't.
second, I came from the evo, and I liked 185. Only app it messed up was speedtest.net, and even then it was just smaller with spaces around it. I use swype so it making the stock keyboard all tiny didn't matter to me.
You can manually edit your build.prop if you are rooted. I'm using 209 since widgets align perfect on LP when using extra columns. Might try to go one up and reboot while taking screen shots each time.
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I'm using 210 and it works well for me, haven't really had the urge to make it smaller as of yet.
Wow, 185 looks great. Just wish sense worked better for font overlapping.
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some screen caps of the different density for those wondering
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240 stock
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some screen caps of the different density for those wondering
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Terrible screen to show the difference lol. 210 and 185 look the same with your setup. I guess I should do screenies of mine since it is insanely different because I use Launcher Pro and not the stock launcher. Aslo apps like facebook will look dramatically different between 210 and 185.
Not trying to slam you or anything, just explaining because someone is going to ask why they don't look different.
I like sense so that's what I use... The 185 chops off the icon names... 210 is ok but it breaks the flip in the clock... Posted just to give an idea... No offense taken
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I like sense so that's what I use... The 185 chops off the icon names... 210 is ok but it breaks the flip in the clock... Posted just to give an idea... No offense taken
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LOL I didn't even notice what it does to the sense clock. I guess if you want to keep Sense you will want to not use 185.
Although changing the LCD density on this phone is very different from the Evo that I came from. The density change on the TB only changes somethings, not everything, like it does on the evo.
The thing I noticed about not setting a device to its correct native ppi, is that you won't get sharp 1:1 pixels but blurred antialiased pixels instead. Which makes sense, doesn't it?
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Using root manage i did a search for build.prop to play around (back up naturally) with the LCD Denisty. During the search i fould 2 build.props. One located /data/data/com.android.browser/app_plugins/build.prop and the other /system/build.prop... Do I need to sync the two values of will changing /system/build.prop be sufficient?
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The thing I noticed about not setting a device to its correct native ppi, is that you won't get sharp 1:1 pixels but blurred antialiased pixels instead. Which makes sense, doesn't it?
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Yeah, you can say that would be the equivalent of setting a 1920x1200 resolution lcd monitor on your computer to 1900x1080 or something lower. The screen will obviously be blurry because it's not the native (optimal) resolution. It's not a good idea to do that on your computer, so I am not following why it would be on your phone.
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I am looking for a way to change the screen dpi (also called density or resolution) from and have it stick during a reboot. The current 240dpi is just too big and 190 looks just right to me.
I have tried a couple apps from the market (LCD DENSITY and LCD DENSITY CHANGER) and both work, but do not stick after a reboot. When I had the HTC HD2 I know you could edit the build.prop or something similar and get it to stick, but don't know if this can be done on the Nexus or not.
Does anyone have any ideas? I've used search and surprisingly found very little pertaining to changing the density on the Nexus.
Thanks for your help!
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I am looking for a way to change the screen dpi (also called density or resolution) from and have it stick during a reboot. The current 240dpi is just too big and 190 looks just right to me.
I have tried a couple apps from the market (LCD DENSITY and LCD DENSITY CHANGER) and both work, but do not stick after a reboot. When I had the HTC HD2 I know you could edit the build.prop or something similar and get it to stick, but don't know if this can be done on the Nexus or not.
Does anyone have any ideas? I've used search and surprisingly found very little pertaining to changing the density on the Nexus.
Thanks for your help!
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you can just edit your build.prop file. its in /system/build.prop/. i use root explorer. after changing it and saving it, all you do is reboot for it to take affect.
heres a screenshot of my build.prop file, the line you want to edit has the curser behind it. and a screenshot of my homescreen and icons with the number set to 230 instead of 240..
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I am looking for a way to change the screen dpi (also called density or resolution) from and have it stick during a reboot. The current 240dpi is just too big and 190 looks just right to me.
I have tried a couple apps from the market (LCD DENSITY and LCD DENSITY CHANGER) and both work, but do not stick after a reboot. When I had the HTC HD2 I know you could edit the build.prop or something similar and get it to stick, but don't know if this can be done on the Nexus or not.
Does anyone have any ideas? I've used search and surprisingly found very little pertaining to changing the density on the Nexus.
Thanks for your help!
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I also use the build.prop method, but I use 165
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That did it! You're the man. Thanks a bunch!
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I also use the build.prop method, but I use 165
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Wow. And I thought 190 was small! You must have awesome eyes.
Use exactly 200. Its equals out a little over qhd resolutions. 960x560 or something. Someone else filled me in on his to do the math and I went from there. Trust me 200 is what you want. Anything smaller and text starts to become grainy. I worked out the math a few months ago in my epic.
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Use exactly 200. Its equals out a little over qhd resolutions. 960x560 or something. Someone else filled me in on his to do the math and I went from there. Trust me 200 is what you want. Anything smaller and text starts to become grainy. I worked out the math a few months ago in my epic.
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Hmm. I'm using 190 as I type this and have no complaints whatsoever. Text is very crisp and the size is perfect. I changed the columns in Launcher Pro Plus to 6 and am loving life.
Oh yea. One thing. The market homescreen is a little messed up, but nothing to get in a tizzy over. I never stay on that screen very long anyway.
I tried dpi 200 and I liked it, but unfortunately lot of apps which I have installed is now not compatible
Is there anyway to fix it? Because I like 200 dpi and want to keep it, 240 is just too much for me.
Revin said:
I tried dpi 200 and I liked it, but unfortunately lot of apps which I have installed is now not compatible
Is there anyway to fix it? Because I like 200 dpi and want to keep it, 240 is just too much for me.
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Download a program from the market called "LCD Density". It allows you to make a temporary dpi change that resets back to normal after a hard reboot. Just temporarily set your DPI to 240 with LCD Density (it will do a soft reboot to apply the setting), download and install what you want from the market, then just do a hard reboot and Viola.
I was wondering if anyone have ever used the LCD Density changer application in the Android Market. If so, which would be the best way to correct the issues with the dialer being out of place after the density change. I prefer having smaller text on the screen that is why I've opt to changing the density to 200 and below in the settings. I will post a screenshot of the issue I am having after the density change.
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The problem is if you alter it at all. When you get on the market it will say device not compatible for 90 percent of the apps. And wont let you download them. Youll have to change it back when you want to download apps.
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The problem is if you alter it at all. When you get on the market it will say device not compatible for 90 percent of the apps. And wont let you download them. Youll have to change it back when you want to download apps.
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I also noticed my text werent coming through when my density was changed. After i rebooted they came in.
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The problem is if you alter it at all. When you get on the market it will say device not compatible for 90 percent of the apps. And wont let you download them. Youll have to change it back when you want to download apps.
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Which is the best way to get smaller text within the whole ui? I used spare parts + to make the text smaller but I'd prefer the text size to a bit smaller throught the ui.
UPDATE: So I found a way around the incompatible app situation.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404897
**UPDATE: I've also found an app in the market called LCD Density Modder Pro, which claims to fix the market compatibility issues. Purchased and testing. Will update with more information after testing for some time.
awaiting your reply
200 has been best for me, I just ignore the dialpad
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200 has been best for me, I just ignore the dialpad
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same here, and i honestly dont have that many issues with the market doing this either.....i still get the occasional market error. but 90% of the ones i download, download just fine.
I've been using density changer, no problem. Except fire the market problem
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200 has been best for me, I just ignore the dialpad
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I just hate the dialer issue. There are some other problems when changing the resolution.. Wish it wouldnt cause problems with other applications because I love how the whole UI looks when the fonts are much smaller.
Didn't even know this existed
This is my screenshot with 200 density.
Everything looks great except for Dial Pad.
I used Rom Toolbox to have the density set permanently. Even after reboot.
I love it
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Check out dialer 1 in the market
I run 190-200
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Been using 720p res, crazy lol
Also 720p here. Using Go Launcher Ex and Go Dialer which has awesome themes...iphone keyboard also! Everything works fine and youtube videos look two or three times better. Checkout big buck bunny on youtube at different settings then on 720p and be amazed..
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I prefer 180
do u guys outside of the market issues.. have problems with texts not coming in when changing it from 240?
Juroid said:
This is my screenshot with 200 density.
Everything looks great except for Dial Pad.
I used Rom Toolbox to have the density set permanently. Even after reboot.
I love it
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Don't you have problems with Market updates?
I use LCD resolution and have never had issues with the market
I haven't had that issue. Texts come in just fine.
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Been using 720p res, crazy lol
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what is the density that you've used?
I only just got my Tab Plus today but i have already applied a few tweaks which for me make my experience with the GT+ a little better!
Please note these tweaks REQUIRE ROOT
First off is the LCD density
I have an ipad2, Galaxy S2 and i did have a Xoom and the first thing i noticed was that the GT+ display was not quite as crisp as i liked!
I used LCD Density Modder PRO to change my density to 140 which seemed to be a lot better.
120 also worked fine but also appears to make some apps run in tablet zoom mode that normally do not ( e.g XDA premium).
Issues:
Please note I HAVE NOT TRIED THIS WITH STOCK LAUNCHER I use ADW
EX. On my XOOM , different dpi's caused FC with stock launcher so be warned.
Stock keyboard also gets misaligned, SWYPE works fine.
Screenshots
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160 (Default DPI)
140 DPI
120 DPI ( Notice how ADW launcher EX is now in tablet mode?
Touch Screen responsiveness.
This is an issue where the screen does not actually respond to touch until you have moved your finger a little bit e.g around 0.5cm on the screen.
I originally used an old apk for my S2 here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161262
I set to the level to 1 on the slider and enabled server.
There appears to be a newer version on the market. Here: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.vital ( But this does not seem to support our tablet yet.
I'm not sure if anyone else will find these useful but I thought it was worth a post anyway!
If you have any good tweaks then please let me know!
Wow thanks for info
Now I'm curious... I have read someone who set the density to 130 and is having some good results much like you are currently. I also hear that changing the dpi can FC the stock browser. How is your experience with this setting or 120 (or try 130 doesn't matter) and at what point does, since I also use it, ADW kick into tablet mode?
I like what I am seeing (to bad my tablet had to get sent back to samsung recently) and just want to find out a little more if you don't mind
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Now I'm curious... I have read someone who set the density to 130 and is having some good results much like you are currently. I also hear that changing the dpi can FC the stock browser. How is your experience with this setting or 120 (or try 130 doesn't matter) and at what point does, since I also use it, ADW kick into tablet mode?
I like what I am seeing (to bad my tablet had to get sent back to samsung recently) and just want to find out a little more if you don't mind
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I'm running at 130, stock browser has been fine for me, everything has worked normally with no abnormalities encountered so far. I use GO Launcher EX and its been running normally as well.
How about the phone app and other Samsung apps? Are they distorted once your lower the density to say 120?
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There may be issues with the market not showing all the apps/updates on certain dpi settings other than 160/140 so im sticking with 140 i think. I havent come across it yet though ( it would say not supported on my s2)
Ive had no issues apart from the accuweather widget has some misaligned text.
I have wifi only so no phone app to test but it was misaligned on my galaxy s2 at different dpi. Hyperdroid rom fixed it though.
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Looking at the 7.7 tab, I think the reason they added the extra .7 of an inch is because of the space taken up by the system bar.
I'm going to look into remapping the volume up/down buttons into back/home as it would be easier to use the hardware buttons at say 120dpi due to the small size of the system bar.
If the volume control was in the same place as the brightness slider in the notifications area then the volume buttons wouldn't be needed!
120 and the delay of the switcher(or whatever it is, the one next to home *button*) is GONE..
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There may be issues with the market not showing all the apps/updates on certain dpi settings other than 160/140 so im sticking with 140 i think. I havent come across it yet though ( it would say not supported on my s2)
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Noticed this today, I had to reset it back to 160, reboot and then clear Market data before I could upgrade my apps again. Resetting and rebooting alone didn't work the data reset was needed.
Changed back and rebooted again, annoying.
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Noticed this today, I had to reset it back to 160, reboot and then clear Market data before I could upgrade my apps again. Resetting and rebooting alone didn't work the data reset was needed.
Changed back and rebooted again, annoying.
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What dpi were you on? I haven't had an issue yet on my gt+ at 120
If you instal the LCD dpi app I mentioned above, it has a market fix. I haven't need to use it on this but it fixed my gs2
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I'm using ROM Toolbox to change my LCD Density, I have it set to 200 and its real nice. I set it to the minimum for fun and man was it small, also caused the phone to lock up constantly, had a hard time getting back into ROM Toolbox to bring it back to 200.
- Are you changing your LCD Density?
- What have you set it to?
- Are you using ROM Toolbox to do it?
- If not what are you using?
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220
That's hot
160. Gives it a 720p look.
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190, and I just manually edit the build.prop file
Noob question
What's the purpose in changing the LCD density? I'm guessing the process is analogous to changing the resolution from 800x600 to 1280x1040 on a windows machine?
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What's the purpose in changing the LCD density? I'm guessing the process is analogous to changing the resolution from 800x600 to 1280x1040 on a windows machine?
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Pretty much. By lowering the LCD density, you're making everything smaller, allowing for more screen real estate. While the pixels themselves don't change, the look of the screen does. For me, it really helps since I came from a 960x540 screen to an 800x480
I'm at 180, 160 messed up apex launcher, and I didn't try 170 yet lol
160
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I used rom toolbox and am running at 200.
Gosh I wish i would have known about this when i first got the phone. Makes it so much better!
What is the stock density? 220? 240?
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What is the stock density? 220? 240?
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240
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240 i think. i got 200 cant notice it. what's better less or more
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Less is better I'm @ 200 but Nova Launcher locks so I need to play around more. But yeah, its sexy.
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alright after restart my god 200 is amazing its like a new phone. good
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using 190 and grid size 4*5 or 5*5 . its perfect ...... tried below 190 but usually many apps crashed ( may be the rom i was using not sure ) ....
160 with apex using rom toolbox sweeeet
200 is sexy!!
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I had it at 210 or 220, but I got sick of missing updates and having the market tell me my apps were not compatible with my device (even ROM Toolbox) so i just stopped messing with it and leave it at 240 now.
I change mine to 200 but I noticed now my stocl email app ( non-gmail ) won't "resize" to the 200 Density and it just stays at 240. Is there a way for me to fix it ?
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I change mine to 200 but I noticed now my stocl email app ( non-gmail ) won't "resize" to the 200 Density and it just stays at 240. Is there a way for me to fix it ?
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The stock apps are built to only display correctly at 240, unfortunately. Your best bet is to use a different e-mail client.
And as far as market compatibility goes, the LCD Modder Pro app has a fix for market issues. It's a paid app, but it's well worth it.
Is it possible to modify the DPI of the system via build prop on the Nexus 5 like I have done in the past with my Samsung phones? Stock icons are always much to large for me and stock apps font to large.
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Is it possible to modify the DPI of the system via build prop on the Nexus 5 like I have done in the past with my Samsung phones? Stock icons are always much to large for me and stock apps font to large.
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Never mind. It would appear the answer is yes. Nice. 340dpi is looking nice.
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HughesNet said:
Never mind. It would appear the answer is yes. Nice. 340dpi is looking nice.
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Did you just root stock 4.4? Or did you flash one of the built ones? And have you seen any bugs anywhere?
Thanks
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Did you just root stock 4.4? Or did you flash one of the built ones? And have you seen any bugs anywhere?
Thanks
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I've modified my buildprop too, with rooted stock rom. I just used RomToolbox Lite to modify my buildprop, but there are many other ways to do that. Haven't noticed any bugs.
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I've modified my buildprop too, with rooted stock rom. I just used RomToolbox Lite to modify my buildprop, but there are many other ways to do that. Haven't noticed any bugs.
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Can you show screenshot?:laugh:
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Can you show screenshot?:laugh:
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I would, but I'm too lazy to screenshot, connect to comp, and upload it. Sorry :silly:
If your device is rooted, it's a really simple procedure to test out your own dpi values. It's really just opening a buildprop editor, and popping in some new numbers.
If you're device isn't rooted, and you're on the fence about rooting, and dpi is influencing that, just root it. You won't regret it.
I've changed mine to 320 in the build.prop and it looks nice. A lot better than stock. The only bug I have noticed is when I am in an app and press the home button, it returns to the home screen and the keyboard pops up. Just to trouble shoot I returned to the stock DPI and it didn't do it anymore. But its a minor annoyance.
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I've changed mine to 320 in the build.prop and it looks nice. A lot better than stock. The only bug I have noticed is when I am in an app and press the home button, it returns to the home screen and the keyboard pops up. Just to trouble shoot I returned to the stock DPI and it didn't do it anymore. But its a minor annoyance.
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So I set it to 380 and I thought things were too small. Also my App list button was off center and couldn't be moved. What DPI settings would scale well with 480 ?
Thanks!
EDIT- I think 420 works great. It reduces the Icon sizes by just the right amount, but yields no extra screen space.
Interesting. At 320 you are essentially telling your phone that it's a 7" tablet.
If it was just fonts and not icons, there are system font settings you can turn down as well under Display or Accessibility. For icons, would otherwise need a custom launcher.
Jacob030 said:
I've changed mine to 320 in the build.prop and it looks nice. A lot better than stock. The only bug I have noticed is when I am in an app and press the home button, it returns to the home screen and the keyboard pops up. Just to trouble shoot I returned to the stock DPI and it didn't do it anymore. But its a minor annoyance.
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Same problem here
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You can just tap home again and the keyboard goes down or the minimize button. And if you use a different launcher of course it is a non issue. I may go slightly larger then 340. It is perfect for in my hands but a little hard to read text while in my car dock