Hello,
I must say Android rocks in almost all it's features, but what it severely lacks is messaging features.
I need to add that I have passed to Android from Blackberry, and what BB means?!... superb messaging system. Now what I ask is.. there is some kind of app or setting to bring/make the messaging system on Android more like on the BB. I like the idea of having SMS, EMAIL (all accounts) in one place. I know GMail can add multiple accounts, but still is not the same and I don't like the idea of having all my mail in one place (server).. seems like a simple task but is more complicated than having multiple accounts, each one meant for a reason.
Honestly I miss the messaging system from my BBs, but still I'll stick with Android.. being open source may bring a lot of resources (some better than other OSs).
Kind regards,
Zeule
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Hi, i am no dev, sorry if this is the wrong section, but i realized that inside of Android 2.2 sdk or something there is the new C2DM Service. Even Google says that it could work very well for instant messages like this:
C2DM makes no guarantees about delivery or the order of messages. So, for example, while you might use this feature to tell an instant messaging application that the user has new messages, you probably would not use it to pass the actual messages.
http://code.google.com/intl/de-DE/android/c2dm/index.html
i searched for an app, which uses C2DM for instant messaging for serveral IM networks like icq, msn etc, but didnt found anything... all the messengers like ebuddy, meebo etc don't use this new push notification which should save a lot of battery, if the device gets pushed about new messages and only than the devices download the message from the server
what do you think about it?
PS: sorry for my crap english
Hopefully this new service will solve all the issues we have with the current crop of instant messengers and their frequent disconnection. This is one feature I miss from my old iPhone
i guess most developers of messaging apps are already working hard to incorporate c2dm into their clients. since froyo is still verry young and there is only one device yet that is officially running it, the use for this would have been verry smale yet. but im sure in a few weeks we will have lots of messaging apps using this feature.
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new Google Talk in FroYo already uses C2DM, other messengers are likely to follow in several months as more phones get FroYo
How is life going? Froyo is about 6 months old, 36 % running Froyo, and the only C2DM-using apps I know are Whatsapp, Jumpnote and Chrome To Phone. I know Google is holding several C2DM presentations.
I'm still missing a IM-app, soccer scores app and so on. Are there any developers working on this? Or is it hard to obtain acces for Google C2DM?
Triilian im and beejive im are using c2dm
hi to all,
when you want to use googles cloud to device messaging ,you must still connected wifi or wakes wifi up when you recieve an message like Googlemail or Trillian Messenger?
thx
p.s.:sry for my bad english
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Hello XDAders, Sup!
First, Sorry for my english its not perfect *BEWARE*
Second, the theme of this post its about an App that allows Messaging Between Phones of Different OS(Android, WM, Symbian[OPTIONAL], BlackberryOS, iOS[OPTIONAL], OtherSmartPhoneOS's[OPTIONAL]) with the appearance and functions of the Rim Messaging Platform, Blackberry Messenger.
The options that i found where:
Whatsapp
Pingchat
Cnectd
pMessenger
Which of those will accomplish the task better???
The things that i think the messaging app must have:
*Push Notifications
*Always Be On, meaning even if you close the app u will receive messages from your contacts(like Blackberry Messenger)
*Be able to send text, Voice Notes(not more than 2 minutes), Photos and Any type of files[OPTIONAL]
*An Check mark That indicates if message its sent, delivered and readed(like Blackberry Messenger)[OPTIONAL]
NOTE: If you know any other apps that accomplish those requirements, say it! Will be thank'ed
pingchat is the closest to a blackberry messenger clone. None of them are very good at group chat, but they're all "working on it"
I have tried pingchat and whatsapp and I am voting for pingchat!
I even heard somewhere that whatsapp will be free for a year only, then paid.
i have been using kakaotalk, its similar to whatsapp but this is in korean. English version is coming out some time this week though.
Like the simple and nice ui. Never had problems with it so far.
knsai said:
i have been using kakaotalk, its similar to whatsapp but this is in korean. English version is coming out some time this week though.
Like the simple and nice ui. Never had problems with it so far.
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The Most Important Platforms in importantly order are:
Android (cause thats the phone i had) > BlackberryOS (this is the important os i want to comunicate with) > Windows Mobile[OPTIONAL] > Iphone[OPTIONAL] > OthetOS's[OPTIONAL]
Kik Messenger could work
It's a new app so not perfect yet, but I think this could be the one you're looking for.
Since I'm not allowed to post outside links on the forum you can search for "kik messenger" to get a description
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Kik Messenger could work
It's a new app so not perfect yet, but I think this could be the one you're looking for.
Since I'm not allowed to post outside links on the forum you can search for "kik messenger" to get a description
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Ohh nice, but on Kik Messenger, you can send voice notes/photos/files[OPTIONAL] also
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Nah kik sucks, it seems im going with Pingchat!
Kik
ive been using Kik for the past week or so bc a BB friend got it. going to have to try out pingchat.
Ive seen MS chose to combine IM and SMS and to me this looks really messy.
First of all the integration of IM is quite nice but I wish it was kept seperate from SMS conversations since these are to the majority of people still different than IMs and used on different devices or apps. I dont want to continue a conversation automatically on a different app or something. This will be very annoying to the other user.
Certainly if somebody just left his/her pc on or IM on accidently....
They should have added facebook private messaging as well and IM/SMS seperated like it was and just added a chat pivot in the messaging hub.
to me an sms is still something every user has always with him her, like when u send somebody an address or something it should be on their phones and not deliverd trough IM and its annoying having to switch first.
Its kind of short sighted implementation, the idea is good but the reality will be very annoying the way it works now.
you will get a ton of sms like notifications for every IM which can be annoying since on a chat conversation people send much more messages per minute than trough sms. Having to toggle online offline all the time will be a pita
am i the only one who thinks this will be garbage? Instead they should have allowed third party apps like whatsapp to use this on user permission. I hope I can switch off the live messenger. Or just revert back to the original sms screen
I like the idea to have an overview of my messages regardlessly whether they come via SMS, Windows Live or Facebook. Although I agree that getting notifications for all those messages shown on the SMS tile would be kind of overwhelming. But I can imagine Microsoft changes the way the tile works. So it still shows the number of SMS, but in addition to that shows an icon or something when you recieve a chat message from Facebook or Windows Live.
In my opinion.. the best feauture ever, of every OS. Loved that!
I love it as well, and think its nice not to have to go to 4 different places for my facebook, text, wlm & (eventually skype).
While I hope they either have a toggle setting for separate 'rows', or add it soon after Mango for those who really don't like it, I honestly doubt they want to mess it up by having too many places for messages. It fits in pretty perfectly with their vision for the overall UI design imo.
For me,M$ thread is not a new idea,it just copying the messaging app in the HP webos...however HP webos messaging is better,they can download apps that support HP connect and integrate into the messaging app(so,this means they can have more than 1 im clients in 1 messaging app).
Feel so sorry to HP webos,always being copied by others,even the UI design of playbook has been copied
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First of all the integration of IM is quite nice but I wish it was kept seperate from SMS conversations since these are to the majority of people still different than IMs and used on different devices or apps. I dont want to continue a conversation automatically on a different app or something. This will be very annoying to the other user.
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Threading will be the beginning of the end for SMS IMNSHO. Most people still use SMS because it's what they know and are used to.
My wife is a great example, she keeps sending me SMSes while I'm out because that's what she's used to. Even though I've had email (and to some extent IM) on my phones since forever. With a "messaging hub" it takes all the guesswork out of the equation - she'll write the message as she normally does and the phone will decide whether it should deliver via FB, Messenger, Skype or SMS.
Now, if you don't want to continue the conversation if the user has moved to a different device you don't have to. The phone will tell you how the message was sent as well as what services the recipient is currently logged on to.
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to me an sms is still something every user has always with him her, like when u send somebody an address or something it should be on their phones and not deliverd trough IM and its annoying having to switch first.
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This just proves my point - you're used to SMS. And again, you can choose whether to send as SMS or IM.
Personally I find this feature great. Two things should be done to make it even better though;
1. Implement a industry-wide protocol so it doesn't matter if you're on a crackberry, iphone or windows phone. Sure, Skype and Messenger goes a long way towards achieving this but there are still people who use smaller IM services only.
2. Allow third-party apps to hook in to the messaging hub - there's a few apps out there today that are not chat apps as such but still implement messaging. Being able to receive (and reply to) these messages from the same place would be great. It would also make it easier for other IM services to integrate with the OS.
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Although I agree that getting notifications for all those messages shown on the SMS tile would be kind of overwhelming.
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But why? Are you less likely to want to read a message coming in thru Messenger than one delivered via SMS? I for one don't care how my messages are delivered, I just want to be notified. It's a bit like having three post boxes outside your house - one for deliveries by DHL only, another for Deutsche Post and a third for everyone else - i.e. pointless
I really like this new feature as well. I am confident that any replies you send to someone will use the same service they used to "text" you, unless you choose to change it. People on non-WP7 phones won't suddenly need to be jumping all over the place.
On the other hand, when other people send you messages from multiple sources (SMS, FB, WLM, etc), you will be able to get all of the messages in one convenient place. I like that.
Let me preface this by saying that my first phone was an Android, 1.6 Droid Eris, then an iPhone 4s, and now an HTC One m7.
Android has changed significantly from 1.6 to KitKat, but the feature that made it most difficult, for me, (and I'm sure a lot of others as well) to switch from iOS back to Android was iMessage. With all the news surfacing that Apple was aware that iMessage does not deliver messages to Android phones properly, I believe this highlights something larger in the Android ecosystem: Android needs its a better messaging experience.
The messaging space is crowded as all get out in 2014, but there is something common among all of them: they don't default back to SMS if the other user does not have their specific messaging app, example Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp, etc.
There is no messaging experience on Android currently that is seamless to the user, sending via data when both users have the same app, yet defaulting back to SMS when it is not available. The closest alternative I can think of is Hangouts. The only downsides to this I can think of is the Google Plus integration some people dislike, lack of customizability, and the possible security risks giving Google access to your texts for targeted ads.
What has been your experience with Android messaging? What features do you wish were built into the messaging experience on Android, e.g. chat heads, delivery/read reports, encrypted texts, instant feedback, or maybe another feature I forgot?
I come from a country where everyone uses WhatsApp to communicate, and I never worried about messaging apps.
But I will be in the USA, and it seems like people just use the default messaging app that comes on their phone (wtf???). And iPhones are bundled with a built in modern messaging app, but one that is locked down to only iPhone users, and falls back to the really old SMS/MMS (not RCS) when messaging non-iPhones, which would lead to iPhone users being annoyed from messaging non-iPhones (do they even support stuff like group chats, messages longer than a tweet, sending videos, location, etc? i guess not or not fully).
Ironically this makes it seem like having a feature phone would still be useful in that country.
Before, I didn't even understand why RCS even existed, just that it seemed like another seemingly cool messaging initiative by Google that was gonna fail just like Allo and so many others, and I'm not sure how helpful is it due to Apple not implementing it. I also didn't understand why Hangouts, Signal, Messenger, etc had the feature to be your SMS app and for example Messenger is pretty insistent even going to the path of dark patterns.
I'm curious to see what the thoughts and experiences of the American XDA community are. Do you use the SMS app? Do you use workarounds like BlueBubbles to use the proprietary iMessage?
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I come from a country where everyone uses WhatsApp to communicate, and I never worried about messaging apps.
But I will be in the USA, and it seems like people just use the default messaging app that comes on their phone (wtf???). And iPhones are bundled with a built in modern messaging app, but one that is locked down to only iPhone users, and falls back to the really old SMS/MMS (not RCS) when messaging non-iPhones, which would lead to iPhone users being annoyed from messaging non-iPhones (do they even support stuff like group chats, messages longer than a tweet, sending videos, location, etc? i guess not or not fully).
Ironically this makes it seem like having a feature phone would still be useful in that country.
Before, I didn't even understand why RCS even existed, just that it seemed like another seemingly cool messaging initiative by Google that was gonna fail just like Allo and so many others, and I'm not sure how helpful is it due to Apple not implementing it. I also didn't understand why Hangouts, Signal, Messenger, etc had the feature to be your SMS app and for example Messenger is pretty insistent even going to the path of dark patterns.
I'm curious to see what the thoughts and experiences of the American XDA community are. Do you use the SMS app? Do you use workarounds like BlueBubbles to use the proprietary iMessage?
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In order to use imessage on Android I heard u have to have a mac if u don't than their is no way to use imessage on Android
I have a gaming windows 10 pc so I'm out of luck plus why would I buy a mac just for imessage I like windows better for me windows 10 Is better but it's just up to u whatever u prefer
You can have a macOS virtual machine, though. But how much effort one would put to it would depend on how important it is in American society to have iMessage