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Qtec 1.11 & slow screen response

Folks,
I have noticed a problem with the screen sensitivity since upgrading my imate with the qtec 1.11 rom:
The screen sensitivity appears to drop very considerably at times. More often in areas of poor reception. It renders the device virtually unusable at times.
I am minded to think that the new rom allocates more time to keeping the signal strong rather than having the screen retain its sensitivity. The reason for me thinking this is that I never have any problems when I go into flight mode.
Hardware keys do not suffer from any sensitivity problems and I know the unit is fine in that regard - ie, I have started using the up/down hardkey instead of the stylus when the unit is playing up.
Has anybody seen similar & more importantly does anybody know how this could be tweaked?
This is the only problem I have encountered with 1.11! Other than that, everything is great - especially the battery life!
Cheers
Marc

The problem seems to occur irrespective of the signal strength. I am about to downgrade but am wondering which element to downgrade: Radio or System?
Anybody else have this problem or can anybody give some advice.
Is there any way to change the priorities on the JAM so that it commits more time to the screen touches and less to other elements?
I cant be the only person with this problem.... surely!

did you install any software after the upgrade?
do you have the same problem even after a hard reset w/o insstalling any other software?

I don't have any problems with screen sensitivity.
Do you use any different software before and after upgrade?

I have managed to prove that the screen problem I am suffering has nothing to do with the ROM version - I have had the problem occur with 1.03, 1.06, 1.11.
It looks like a hardware problem. Good news in one way but bad news for me.
There are others that have mentioned slow screen response.... my problems started off like this about 2 months ago. Now the unit can go days without getting any response from the touch screen. Hard and Soft resets make no difference at all.
I think we need to get more people to comment on this...... anybody?

I have managed to prove that the screen problem I am suffering has nothing to do with the ROM version - I have had the problem occur with 1.03, 1.06, 1.11.
It looks like a hardware problem. Good news in one way but bad news for me.
There are others that have mentioned slow screen response.... my problems started off like this about 2 months ago. Now the unit can go days without getting any response from the touch screen. Hard and Soft resets make no difference at all.
I think we need to get more people to comment on this...... anybody?

My immediate reaction after installing 1.11 rom/radio and then the 27 MB storage rom was that my magician felt sluggish compared to before.
I haven't had too much time to play with it, but yes, it definitely feels slower with 1.11.

@LeSkip: I use QTEK 1.11 ROM and my mini runs faster (compared to the original O2 mini ROM). I don't have any experience with BigStorage ROM so I can't compare.
@marcyspark: I hope you're still under warranty. Downgrade the ROM so you can have it repaired under warranty (Upgrading the ROM can void your warranty).

Cheers for the warning - I already took care of that side - thanks for the thoughts though. Much appreciated.
I now have to deal with the Imate UK service centre which, so far, has not been good:
1. After explaining that I had upgraded to the latest Official Imate ROM I was told to go to the website and install the latest ROM !!!
2. I was told to list all third party applications that are installed!!! There arent any cos the damn thing has had a new ROM installed and I cant get it to do anything!!!
3. The most recent advice was to hard reset and everything would be fine!!! Aaagggh!
4. Finally, I was told that a firmware update will be available to fix my problem which, as I told them previously, occurred with Firmware 1.03 and 1.06.
Bizarrely, the imate has come back to life after a few days without use AND I have noticed that if you press onto the battery from the back you can get it to respond for a while.... but only a while. Could this be a design issue rather than a hardware fault???
I have never pressed hard on the unit (for fear of damaging or marking the beautiful screen) but could it be that the chassis flexes over time?
Any thoughts folks - surely this stuff is for beta testers not paying consumers..... dont start me off on this one.
(I sound like a Lawyer cos I am one)

I have a MDA Compact running 1.0.1 rom, so I just upgraded to 1.11. All went fine, everythings seems to be speedy and nice.
The next thing I did was use my sprite backup to restore teh apps to the MDA. Once I had done this, the screen became very unusable and needed a big press to get anything to happen.
I have just hard reset again, and all is fine. Im now going to try reinstalling everything from scratch and see how it goes.
Its a software thing guys, must be.

Screen Alignment Problem..anybody having too?

HISTORY:
Recently back from screen replacement. Currently on TNT4.0 Professional.
PROBLEM:
It seems that the bottom half is alright. Just the upper half especially on right-hand at OK buttons. I've to click almost 5mm-10mm below to actually press OK or X. It becomes apparent while writing on Notes(I use PocketNote) with handwriting. Below appx. half line it writes where the pen is touching ie perfect. But above half line, it becomes very hard to write anything at all coz of problem in alignment. The alphabets don't appear as should be with some stopping short.
I suspect it's the hardware but also could be ROM(WM6) related. I briefly tested 1908 and it seems fine but due to the lack of time, I went back to current rom.
1)If others are also having same problem then possibly a ROM related.
2)Possibly some has already a solution if it's ROM related.
3)If hardware related, then time for wizard to retire as replacing again is not worth due to the price involved.
Just want to see whether anybody else having same kind of problem in WM6.
Thanks all.

I had similar problem with my previous ROM (but dunno from who was it, but OS said still 10.x.x.x), but this problem appeared and disappeared by itself, sometimes I had to re-align screen. It happened without any obvious reason - while playing solitaire, etc. Started to suspect hw, but reflashed to latest TNT and problem solved.

I have the same issue with my mda it in the same position, top right hand corner. I just haveto realign it, then reboot. And it fixs it for awhile, then I have to do it over again. Gets very annoying, I dont know whats the problem, since it happened when I was on the stock tmobile updated rom on wm5, and it still happens when I upgraded to the wm6. Currently running the black diamond rom, but since running black diamond it doesnt happen that often.
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Device: Tmobile MDA G3 Unlocked
Network: Tmobile US
IPL: 2.26 SPL 2.26 GSM: 02.25.11
OS: Black Diamond V3
SanDisk 2GB Mini SD

these devices are getting old
I've started noticing issues with screen alignment as well. Initially, I seriously thought it had to do with the "TouchFlo" fad and all the related WM6 ROMs, but I had since gone back to WM5 shipped and the problem persisted. So now I am facing the sad fact that my Wizard is probably just getting too damn old!!! I see the posts all the time.....ailing battery life....misaligned screens...flaky usb ports...miniSD cards not working...etc... I looked at various prices to replace parts ( http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main.asp?area=home )- but it just doesn't seem worth it!
Let's see how prices look for the Kaiser early next year... Or perhaps if I-mate gets their act together and produces hardware that lasts...

check this thread out, i tried the last suggestion, and it work awhile.

same ting here, but for me the problem occures on the bottum, at the softkeys. Most problem occures at the bottum left side. I also tried loading WM5 stock ROM (Qtek or T-Mobile) but without any improvement...
When aligning I also need to press the covering at the bottom left side, else I can't even align the screen....
In deed it seem to look for a new device will be the only good solution...

daishi17 said:
check this thread out, i tried the last suggestion, and it work awhile.
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Which thread??

Screen Alignment Problem..anybody having too?
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nope, i am using OLD mun.,..

my bad i forgot to paste the thread, but pretty much what the person did was use thier thumb and and wipe the screen with it. I did that and it worked quite well. I also installed the battary status app the beta version that is up on thier site, and have the cpu scaler enabled, and omap enabled with all options on.
omap overclock set at 247
CpuScaler
Min 143
Org 195
Max 247
Boost 260
Since i did this the screen alignment issue has disappeared, working great. Has been going good for a day and 8 hrs.
Try it and see, since this problem with the screen alignement is quite mysterious.

I think native12, is right. I have two Wizards (one OK one bad) and one Hermes. The bad Wizard was replaced by KPN, who told me that its a known problem, works fine now. The Hermes is even worse 1 cm out after half an hour.

YUP ! very true our ol'wizard are aged wearing out and goners
but certainly not a Rom upgrade malfunction,I must say only due to hardware malfunction or wearing out,

My story goes like this:
I've been having this realignment symptoms for over 6 months now but it got worse during the Summer. I used to have a protection film and read somewhere that the pressure it applied on the screen was responsible for the misalignment. By this time that was happening several times a day so i took the film off and it appeared to be the solution. It wasn't... after two weeks or so it came back and i started considering applying for warranty replacement or repair.
I have a friend that works at the official dealer repair center and offered to take my Wizard for observation regarding this matter. He saw i was running a WM6 customized ROM and was concerned that the repair guys would complain about void warranty so i decided to downgrade it to the original shipped ROM: 1.06 WWE
So he took it and in less than a week i had it back. You wanna know what they did? They upgraded it to WWE 2.17... HAHAHAHAHA After the large amount of ROMs flashed and countless times i read and flashed it to test WST they upgrade the device to solve a hardware issue.
Man, that almost makes me not want to send it back for the real repair/replacement...
"Grandfather: Well... that's it. Did you like the story?
Grandson: Yes, it was great!!
Grandfather: I'm glad, now off to bed." ('Manowar,Kings of Metal')

mestrini said:
My story goes like this:
I've been having this realignment symptoms for over 6 months now but it got worse during the Summer. I used to have a protection film and read somewhere that the pressure it applied on the screen was responsible for the misalignment. By this time that was happening several times a day so i took the film off and it appeared to be the solution. It wasn't... after two weeks or so it came back and i started considering applying for warranty replacement or repair.
I have a friend that works at the official dealer repair center and offered to take my Wizard for observation regarding this matter. He saw i was running a WM6 customized ROM and was concerned that the repair guys would complain about void warranty so i decided to downgrade it to the original shipped ROM: 1.06 WWE
So he took it and in less than a week i had it back. You wanna know what they did? They upgraded it to WWE 2.17... HAHAHAHAHA After the large amount of ROMs flashed and countless times i read and flashed it to test WST they upgrade the device to solve a hardware issue.
Man, that almost makes me not want to send it back for the real repair/replacement...
"Grandfather: Well... that's it. Did you like the story?
Grandson: Yes, it was great!!
Grandfather: I'm glad, now off to bed." ('Manowar,Kings of Metal')
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"Grandfather: Well... that's it. Did you like the story?
Grandson: Yes, it was great!!
Grandfather: I'm glad, now off to bed." ('Manowar,Kings of Metal')
THAT"S IT

Asking "how" is like travelling through space in 3 seconds...(nice one )
It got worst from bad after using "search" function- with those cutting card method, screen protector off things. Now even the screen calibration never ends.
No....even can't sleep as "KAISER" is on my head.

Is it worth it?

That's the question to the WM6 upgraders. Please comment if you've made the generic upgrade. Should you have stayed with WM5, waited for the official release, or happy you used a generic ROM? Thanks for your comments!

unlike other HTC products official update to wm6 make me no problems at all now.
no buggy cameras, no short battery life, no slow system issues....

I just upgraded my phone and my wife's to WM6. I use all of the registry tweaks and such with my phone so WM5 was usable for me prior to the upgrade. However my wife does not like all of that extra stuff so she was running WM5 in it's default configuration and she was constantly complaining about hers. I used the generic upgrade on both phones and I found that there was not as much stuff that needed tweaking on mine and she doesn't complain about her phone (in it's default configuration) at all anymore. In both cases the OS seems a lot more efficient and stable, plus the generic release is missing most of the try & buy/at&t bloatware crap that comes with the branded release. Bottom line I say go for it, you'll be pleased.

DocKill said:
That's the question to the WM6 upgraders. Please comment if you've made the generic upgrade. Should you have stayed with WM5, waited for the official release, or happy you used a generic ROM? Thanks for your comments!
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My device is a Telstra (Australia) branded WM5 Treo. I upgraded a few weeks back to the generic WM6 ROM because Telstra still does not have their WM6 ROM released, whereas other carriers (3 and Voda) have had their ROMs out for months. In the end I couldn't wait.
Anyway, the upgrade went fine and I am much happier with WM6. It is faster in every way, especially when answering a call. Where previously under WM5 there seemed to be a delay of 2-3 seconds between pressing the answer button and actually being connected, it is now instantaneous.
It may only sound small, but the new speakerphone and mute buttons on the active call screen are very handy!
The only weird thing I have noticed is that when you open a Calendar item to view (i.e. not edit) the left soft key used to be "Edit" on WM5 but on WM6 it is "Reply" and it is greyed out as you'd expect because it is not an email message! I can't figure out why Palm made that particular change.
Aside from that, it's all good!

WSOD combined with constant reset - Assistance Needed

Hello Everyone,
I'm in need of some assistance to see whether my hardware is bad or not. I have a G3 cid/sim unlocked 8125 that I've been flashing for 2+ years. I recently switched to Tmobile from Cingular/Att. I'm running WM6.1 from It's Right.
As of yesterday I noticed my phone would freeze and then turn to the dreaded WSOD. I was unable to reset using the power button but could through the soft reset button on the side. The phone will either not load all the way or will eventually load up but freeze after a few minutes of use.
Resolutions I have already taken are:
1. Taking out the Tmobile sim. This has made no difference.
2. Reflashing the phone completely. I took it to the base Tmobile 2.26, flashed the 3.08 ipl/spl, flashed the newest WM6.1 From It's Right (TNT.19209+Professional+Wizard+TouchFlo+FREE).
What I have found is still instability. I noticed part of the problem was coming from TimeSync 2.33 so I removed it. The only other programs I have installed that did not come with the rom are:
QuickMenu 2.7
Netfront Browser 3.5 (demo)
Heck the phone just white screened and reset itself while I'm typing this.
BTW none of this has ever happened to me before using the TNT rom's, Mfrazz's roms, Summiter roms, etc... This is a completely new problem that just started yesterday.
Any advise/solutions would be greatly appreciated. If the problem cannot be resolved easily or cheaply I'll be upgrading to a Tilt/Tytn II but I have to justify the cost.
Edit: I'm getting a lot of looks but no replies so I will be posting this in the general forums also.

I have the same issue with tht TNT ROM. I'm downloading the AMP one right now to check if it is of any relevance.

The same happened with the love rom, so it's probably not a rom issue. Are you overclocked by any chance?

When it first started, yes I was over clocking with the newest version of BS.
I figured out what the problem is (fingers crossed). My phone has went through hell and back with the amount of times it has been dropped by my children and myself. The battery cover (extended battery of course) broke and I recently ordered a new one along with some new stylus's.
Well it seems as if the phone's dimensions have changed slightly from all the banging around and I had to change how the ribbon that allows you to remove the battery is positioned.
Instead of either folding it under the battery or having it come over the battery I had to lay the ribbon flat along the phone then place the battery in. Also had to make sure both sides of the sim card are inserted properly. Otherwise it seems as if the battery connection is compromised, therefore the WSOD and soft resets. It still happens occasionally, usually when I place the phone in my holster.
I hope this helps others with similar problems.
The rom is fine. In fact I am yet to have a complaint about it except for the notifications (standard TNT) at reset. I haven't even installed BS yet, but I have put in TimeSync 2.33 with no problems.
I've also went back to SPB shell and ditched S2U2 for now. Not that S2U2 gave me problems. It's just without the new BS skin I missed having the time in big bold #'s and for some reason I can't stand HTC Home. SPB Shell gives me the home buttons and the standby screen.
Oh yeah - I'm very glad I don't have to get a new phone yet since I found out yesterday that TMobile's 3G network will be using the 1700 band and the tytn / tynn II wouldn't give me 3G once the network launches.

The Touch Pro death thread - what are your experiences

I love my Touch Pro - really I do, its got all the features I want currently (except a digital compass would be good with some AR software, but that's not important roght now).
However, having got my first TP back in February I am about to send my handset back yet again as it has died again.
The first handset had a serious problem with battery drain and switching itself on (ie screen on) when not in use - I posted here about this at the time (clicky).
The o2 UK repair centre (Anovo) first of all said they'd fixed the fault, but after two weeks the phone was doing the same again - I did confirm this was not a software issue by running it ofr two weeks without any of my usuall applications on it.
So it went back again and was returned 'No Fault Found'.
At this point I demended a replacement handset. The replacement I received (a refurbished unit) had a speaker fault - crackling whenever the speaker activated, ie before a call connected and during.
That one went back as well and I ended up with an SE X1 for a while. OK but not a Touch Pro (and wouldn't run my legitimately purchased Tom Tom Nav 5 s/w). This was because o2 UK said they had no more stock of the Touch Pro and wouldn't be getting any more (why? too many problems with it?)
Eventually I got a call from o2 after numerous letters of complaint saying that they were going to exchange the SE X1 for a brand new boxed Touch Pro.
I have had this brand new replacement since August now.
About a month ago it died on me again. It just wouldn't switch on. Disconnecting and reconnecting the battery resulted in the flash on the back flashing, the handset vibrating (as though it was starting up) but nothing else.
Connecting the charger resulted in the flash on the back flashing bright about every second.
A hard reset would not work at this stage.
After a couple of days I heard the 'battery low' sound from the drawer that it was stashed in. SO tried a hard reset again - nothing. Tried a hard reset again with the charger plugged in and it reset and cam back to life.
... for two weeks...
then it died again.
This time is very similar to last with theflash falshing thing, except that if I try a hard reset it seems to go through the motions but without the screen coming on (ie the vibration. The beeping sound. Click the volume down and it pings again as though its starting the reset, then about a minute later the vibration again as though its restarting after the reset). But the screen doesn't come on at all. And the lights don't light up on the front buttons or the keypad.
Unfortunately I didn't have myMobiler installed on the handset so I couldn't try connecting to it from my PC (myMobiler did try installing but as I couldn't click the 'OK' button it didn't complete).
So. Are my four deaths of the TP unique or has anyone else had similar problems with this handset?
-FM

Not I.
I have had my Touch Pro (AT&T's HTC Fuze) since December 2008 and I have not had a single real problem with it. I say "real" because I have had times when I couldn't get a GPS lock and of course the phone is slow sometimes, but that's what I've come to expect from HTC.

Anonymitee said:
I have had my Touch Pro (AT&T's HTC Fuze) since December 2008 and I have not had a single real problem with it. I say "real" because I have had times when I couldn't get a GPS lock and of course the phone is slow sometimes, but that's what I've come to expect from HTC.
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you need the 1.14.25.35 radio. and a different rom. maybe atts 5.11 rom if you want to still keep it stock. 1.14.25.35 is atts radio too so that stock and wont void your warranty as well.

Fuze Died Today, I Think
I've used this fuze since December of 2008 and have been quite pleased with the performance. (considering that it IS Windows) My signature radio works quite well in the mid west North America and travels well through different data protocols. Like H to Edge to GPRS and back to 3G again.
Today I flashed a new rom via usb and now it won't pass the splash screen. That flash appeared normal in all respects. Tried several hard resets (to the bootloader screen) and have tried to re-flash a different rom via micro sd card.
I've begun to think that this may be a hardware failure and would appreciate any advise for troubleshooting. Keep in mind that device will NOT connect via usb.

my screen went white a couple days ago. it would end up showing the windows logo for a while then a white screen. i hard reset a few times but nothing worked so i reloaded atts 5.11 rom and now it just stays at the "initial setup of the touchflo interface may take serveral minutes please wait" screen and wont get passed. i saw another thread about the white screen months back but i cant find it again. im just gonna wait till they have tilt2s and claim it under warranty. im gonna miss having flash, i use it to light up everything, but im sure a larger screen will make up for it.

Well I now have a bit more info on this since the phone cam eback from 'repair'on Saturday.
All they had done at the repair centre was to 'reload software' (their words, not mine). ie I guess they flashed the ROM again.
It worked for a day, though I guessed that was more coincidence than anything - after all, when this handset first did this a few weeks before it suddenly started working again a few days later.
Luckily in that time I'd remembere to install MyMobiler this time, and so when the screen died I connected to my laptop and fired up a remote view of the phone.
The screen itself was dead, but everything else seemed to be working on the phone - except that while the screen was dead I had an error displayed on screen. The error was "MicropERROR" as attached here.
So I Googled the error message, and what a shock a nice long thread on XDA-dev about it. Seems it s a fairly common problem with the Diamond, Touch Pro and Touch HD. Joy!
So the phone is now back with 'o2' again for another 'repair' this time with the attcahed screenshot enclosed. I have been warned again, though, that the Serra is out of stock and if they can't repir it I may have to select a substitute. As far as I am concerned there is no substitute - there is no other phone at the mo with the Touch Pro's features (hardware keyboard, VGA/WVGA screen, A-GPS, g-sensor, WinMo, runs TomTom Nav5).
I fear the worst again, and fear I'm back where I was in July with an impossible choice to make thanks to o2 UK discontinuing the Serra / Touch Pro after a few months of supplying it.
-FM

well i got my TP back in March.09 and last month i have to replace the mother board and the back speaker other than that all is good so far
but i was so frustrated with HTC support centre (which is the main one in Taiwan ) real unpleasant experience as you all may know
Cheers!

Time to send mine back
Just had an issue with my last one, it was only 5 months old and the screen started looking like it had a vertical hold issue. Just got my refurbished one in Wednesday and now it is doing the same thing after playing games on it for 5 minutes. The speaker phone is crackling too for some reason and when charging it at night it's like the screen will not fully black out. I am wondering if I even want to try another one of HTCs products or not. Nice phones but to many headaches it seems.