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[DEV Discussion] HD Mini Android/Linux Development Thread

The purpose of this thread is to discuss the possibilities of getting Android up and running on the HD Mini.
A word to the wise…porting Android is NOT easy, it took almost 1 year to get an (almost) fully working port for the HTC Touch Pro, and there were a LOT of really good Linux developers spending TONS of time on it. (The preceding sentence was paraphrased from this post by TheDeadCpu.)
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2/13/2011 Big News: Android / Linux port for PHOTON by Cotulla
Thanks to Cotulla for getting the ball rolling!

eh, it´s a new Phone, u sold some...days...weeks...ago..?!?!?! WTF u didn´t buy a android phone if u like one?

Gosh, maybe he wanted a HDmini sized phone and now he wants to get Android s/ware. Get people skills an stop hating

francomok421 said:
Any method can install android for HTC HD mini WM phone?
Thanks a lot!
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Me to!! Can't live with what's in the HD Mini, but most certainy I can live with the hardware. Anybody knowing how to androidize it?

I bought HD mini due to the outlook, size and weight!
Legend have poor taste and the shape is not good to store in pocket.
Frankly, WM is more easy to copy and edit the Word/Excel files from PC and I can check some files out of office easily.
And I just seek for any solutions for multi-boot with Android OS as Android looks better and I just want to try it and need not to buy another phone.
Cos I have one iPhone already, too many mobile phones~

When the evo rom arrives, it will be ported to hd2. I find it logical that it will be a android powered hd mini in the future. Then, it would be rather easier than now to create a custom android rom for hd mini But I should stick to reality.
The dual boot app for winmo devices isn't written for hd minis hvga resolution.
But hey, the diamond 2 or touch pro 2 does not have a android twin to take a rom from. I will put up a request for hd mini support for the android dual boot app.
The hd mini would have been a great android device!
Sorry for bad English.

Thanks gingerviking! I agree that the hardware is made for Android rather than wm6.5. I cross my finger for a rapid solution - WM is just not for me anymore..

Good news is that a genious has managed to get the linux bootloader to work on hd2 and playing a 720p video. An Android port will soon come to hd2 even without the evo rom
Hopefully the kernel system on hd2 isn`t all that different from the hd mini

Well. We're all looking forward to see a genious hacker who cares about the hd mini and android. =)

Don't know if it will work but you guys could give it a try cause it runs via haret:
w w w _dot_ neopeek.com/en/stories/android/75-update-android-fuer-htc-blackstone-diamond-tilt-raphael-rhodium-topaz-fuze
@XDA-Mods: after months of waiting! when will you update my account?

Anything else besides android that you guys might want??? how about some cookies along with it? lol if you wanted android why did you bought a windows mobile based device?? cause of haret? if you want android on your hd2 mini, yould need a working linux kernel, then you can worry about android, and its not that easy im not going over this again im tired of explaining to noobs that android is not a a program that you can simply install...it dosnt work that way.

rafyvitto said:
Anything else besides android that you guys might want???
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Android would be just enough

ATT HTC ARIA -- a dead ringer for HD MINI but with ANDROID?
Does this mean an android rom won't be too far off?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/htc-aria-goes-official-for-atandt-gets-toyed-with-on-video/

nickel911 said:
Does this mean an android rom won't be too far off?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/htc-aria-goes-official-for-atandt-gets-toyed-with-on-video/
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No , them are different
Want android for hd mini , we need use Haret, not just port rom aria to hd mini

haret for hd photon exist ?

SoftWord said:
haret for hd photon exist ?
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Not yet i think, but i will get my touch in it soon
This week a bit busy
Tom

core of haret is a file called setup.txt where are stored parameters with rom/ram addresses, only thing to do is know this addresses.........

I hate you. Htc!
I have great news for all you people living in the US: Like the evo 4g with sprint(android version of hd2). At&t have released the htc aria, a true android clone of the hd mini. Just google it for more info.

Yes and, unfortunately for us, HTC Aria will be, and nowadays is, available only for USA market...
I want it in Italy!!!!!! Or maybe... someone which could "do" a complete Android ROM for the HD Mini, based on the Aria!?!?!? I wish it! I really want it...!
Because HD Mini is so pocketlly beautiful!!!!

its a company fault
we have went to market to get it and it was WM and now they have released HD Mini with Anderiod ,
so it is who's fault,
i hope anyone can give info how to get the rom of android for our hd mini (old) one

Is Android more stable than WinMobile?

I currently use a HTC TP2 with WinMobile 6.5 OS. While I have used PPC and WinMobile for perhaps ten years now, I am getting fed up with the instability of WinMobile. It crashes (hangs) about once a day. The only way to maintain stability is to watch the "Free RAM" gauge, and soft-boot it when it drops from 85 to 65 MB.
I am now considering moving over to Android (HTC Desire).
The main reason I have stayed with WinMobile for all these years are the apps I use. I suspect the instability I have experienced is using SPB Mobile Suite as a preferred UI and some other third party apps. Nonetheless, the instability is frustrating.
QUESTIONS
1) Is Android alot more stable than WinMobile (how often does it crash)?
2) Does Android allow using a microSD card with is formatted with FAT (I want to sometimes pull out the card and plug it into my desktop (WinVista) for sychronization and file transfer)?
3) Can Copy-Paste function be used across apps on Android?
4) Does Android have software that syncs with my desktop MS-Outlook (email, calendar, contacts)?
... thanks.

Android vs WinMobile.
Hello. Yes, it is a hole lot more stable.. and faster.
so. 1) on official roms it never crashes on itself (if the app is badly programmed, then it is the app that crashes and closes)
if you don't do anything naughty (like installing weird stuff that mangles with your cpu / os internals), the os is perfectly 101% stable.
2) by default every android phone out there uses microSD cards formatted with FAT32. there are "naughty" modifications (see above at point 1) that makes one partition the microSD for swap and ext3 for applications.
3) by design.
4) by design. it also syncs everything with google servers and exchange servers.

Android is compared to WinMob the first flight to the Moon
Android is very stable and other things u want u will get!
Android is just Perfect =) Iphone cant be better with his apps/games Android is much more then just an Appstarter like the Iphone!

I own and HD2 and my two previous phones were "Diamond 2" and "Diamond" so I've tryed all flavors of winmo for some time, and now that I'm running Android on my HD2, I can tell you that Android is really 101% stable, nothing to do with Winmo, there is no way I'm going back to winmo, plus I've found everything I used on Winmo in Android.

I was using a sprint tp2 and did the winmo 6.5 update and instantly regretted it. I hate that thing with a passion. It constantly lagged horrendiously and froze at least once a day. I got the HTC hero and satisfied to keep it until the dev's can no longer keep updating it.
There is an android port for the tp2, but not sure current status of it. You can run it for a little taste of android before spending money. Check craigslist and eBay for used phones. Got my hero for $100 with no contract extension when it was going for ~$80 in store with extensionand rebates.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

Even though android isn't fully developed for the HD2, it is as stable as windows mobile. When android is finished, it will be the clear winner in stability.

I just made the switch from the TP2 to the Desire about 2 weeks ago and from the start I have been very impressed. I fought constantly with different ROMs, tweaks and setups on WM trying to get it to just work when I needed it to. The desire isn't perfect, but in comparison it blows away the TP2. I was nervous about losing my hardware keyboard but I don't miss it as much as I thought I would. Still sometimes I wish I had it. It's worth a try though. You can always return the Desire and go back to your TP2.

Well I went from a unlocker tp2 switching between Mighty Rom and energy Rom. That phone did lag terribly a couple times a day, and is just way too slow. I upgraded to a rooted EVO switching between Vaelpak's rom and CM-6.0. Obvoiusly the EVO blows away that phone in every reguard. Overall Android has similar functions comapred to WM6.5 but is easier to use once you get used to it, and there is no comparison with the available apps for Android, you'll thng you won the lottery with all the apps you can get. Good luck

Touch -> Mogul -> TP -> TP2 -> EVO = free at last

Android 2.x's are much more stable than WM6.x's for me...no turning back now

I feel very happy since i installed android in my hd2, it runs smoothly and fast, no hangs. The only issue that i've found is the battery drainage
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

Beeing a smartphone user for the last 5 years, I have tried, Symbian, WinMo, iPhone and Maemo and finally gone to Android. IMO if you are wandering between WinMo and Android in therms of functionality I must say that Android is the winner. It is more user friendly, more intuitive and I personally find it easier to use it. Even the new iPhone 4 fails to impress me when compared to my HD2 running Android 2.2.

The stability is virtually the same they both have certain things that will cause hangups and issues.
WinMo is NOT made for touch screen and any touch stuff going on is based on Sense or another overlay. Microsoft did what they could to get to the touch generation but it's a Gen behind for sure but it isn't a bad system. It just isn't "smart" when it comes to multitask.
Android is pretty customizable and is supported by a BEVY of programmers.
Here's the kicker though which may cause a problem soon:
Android is Linux based and Devs hate Linux for gaming etc. Win7 will be so much easier to port for since many devs are fmailiar with Window Programming and Win7 will make porting iOS games very easy.
For now, Android, for later, win7 may be the winner.

When I had a WinMo phone. I had to pull out battery quite some times as it freezed. On Android I've never had any problem. Even if something would crash. The app would force close and everything would be fine.

Skeleton said:
QUESTIONS
1) Is Android alot more stable than WinMobile (how often does it crash)?
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By leaps and ******** bounds, man. The stock Android 2.2 firmware on my Nexus One is way more stable than any cooked Windows Mobile ROM I've ever tried on the three Windows Mobile devices I've used (MPx200, HTC_Excalibur, HTC_Fuze).
Skeleton said:
2) Does Android allow using a microSD card with is formatted with FAT (I want to sometimes pull out the card and plug it into my desktop (WinVista) for sychronization and file transfer)?
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Yes.
Skeleton said:
3) Can Copy-Paste function be used across apps on Android?
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No; it's application specific. Yes, it's completely stupid.
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4) Does Android have software that syncs with my desktop MS-Outlook (email, calendar, contacts)?
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Try this: http://www.companionlink.com/android.
Hope that helps!

[Q] Switch between Android, Win Phone 7, and WinMo 6.5 on the same device?

hi guys,
I'd like to know if it possible because I've been using my Xperia x1 for about a year and i think it's time for a change but when I checked all the available phones I got confused a little.
it seems like Windows phone 7 looks great but in a review i saw somewhere it says that it lacks some important features such as:
No Bluetooth file transfers
No USB mass storage mode
No multitasking
No copy/paste
No Flash or Silverlight support in the web browser
No DivX/XviD video support
No internet tethering support
Swapping memory card requires hard reset; cards not readable by computer
and Android has great features but IMO I think WinMo gives more freedom in the terms of using or hacking
and as a WinMo 6.5 user I find it a great OS with all the features needed and if there some feature I want that is not already offered it's available here on XDA-Dev either as a .cab or cooked in a ROM
So the Main Question: if I buy a Sonyericsson (X10 maybe) or a HTC with a 1 GHz Processor will I be able to install any OS of them as a ROM???
Thanx in advance.

The only device capable of running WP7 is the hTC Leo and it has actually working Android and some working on Ubuntu and Maemo as well.
not any other device will be capable to do so

Thanx for reply
So the HD2/Leo is able to handle all 3 OSs
but i have more questions please
how is the HD2 up to date regarding the specs? like the RAM, ROM, and processor
can there be 2 OSs in the same time and to be able to switch between them?
and does android 2.2 froyo work 100% i mean with everything working??
thanx again

ahmedsalem89 said:
it seems like Windows phone 7 looks great
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I'm intreagued, what about the duplo phone looks great to you?

The basic HD2 specs are up to date on paper (RAM, ROM, processor) and even beat some newer phones but dig deep and you'll see the latest version of the chips are better. Android 2.2 is running perfectly but WP7 is still work in progress.
It's more than a year old but still the best phone EVER.

samizad said:
The basic HD2 specs are up to date on paper (RAM, ROM, processor) and even beat some newer phones but dig deep and you'll see the latest version of the chips are better. Android 2.2 is running perfectly but WP7 is still work in progress.
It's more than a year old but still the best phone EVER.
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Well, it's clear now that the HD2 is one of the best phones out there as it's capable of handling nearly the 3 OSs, Thanx for ur help

Any chance for Desire to use WP7 too?
I would be great if it is possible.
I wanna try WP7 too.

[Q] The Best Phone for Installing Ubuntu (or other distros)

Hello xda,
I'm a big fan of the Ubuntu distro and I want to buy a smart-phone for the sole purpose of installing Ubuntu onto it. Unfortunately, I do not know much about the capabilities of phones out there.
I've scoured these threads trying to find an Android Phones (or any phone) that people had success with and I haven't been able to come to a firm decision.
I simply want a smart-phone with a QWERTY keyboard and powerful hardware (+1Ghz CPU & +500Mb RAM) that can run Ubuntu smoothly.
The best one I've found so far is HTC Desire Z, but many seemed to have difficulties. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723493)
Any input?

Eh... nothing aside from the HD2 can run it smoothly, sorry.

I'm running Ubuntu nicely on the HTC G2 Vision running Virtuous v0.9.0
Only major quirk is you have to use the htc_g540976a kernel which means no overclocking

Answered question, closing thread

Getting a palm pre fot $ 35, I have some questions.

Hey everyone,
Later today I will be picking up a palm pre for a whopping 35 bucks. Now how difficult is it to installb webos 2.1. I know I have to have uberkernel (or a custom kernel or that matter) installed, alongwith preware and ubuntu 11.04. I just have to setup the development enviorment and its mainly just linux terminal commands after that right?
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Install WebOS 2.1.0, Is easy as eat a Cake.
Install UberKernel will just speed fast your phone, app, games, because WebOS 2.x.x was made for 1Ghz - Above.
There's a guide about how to install Ubuntu Chroot, was made by me, and the programs by WebOS-Internals.
WebOS is really the easier OS, just need more Devs, and will grow. I hope you like WebOS and if you need something just PM or ask here.
Welcome to the new world

Here is the link for WebOS Internals, where you will find full instructions on upgrading to 2.1.
As TravisAntonio said, it's pretty easy to upgrade to 2.1, and make sure you overclock as well. 2.1 is significantly slower than 1.4.5, so you might actually prefer 1.4.5.