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It is still slow to respond to commands. Looks nothing more than a facelift.
Microsoft killed itself with this ****....
I mean, who would ever want this? It's completely illogical, Applish, slow and stupid.I think, that me and most of the people will stick to 6.5 ...
Actually, it looks VERY GOOD for me
No, I won't be probably using it since day one, but I'll consider it when there will be serious phones with it (HW keyboard, huge display like 4") and many software for it (different keyboards, I'm using swype few days and it's awesome).
All MS should have done like year ago was remake memory management of CE OS 5.2 (f.ck those SLOTs and use desktop-Windows-like mm), some other improvements and compile it against armv6 and force Qualcomm to give HTC drivers for 3D and 2D and this all stuff for low cost. Everything would work just like now, with thousand of apps, but faster and faster and faster and BETTER.
And then integrate HTC Sense on system-level, also many apps and cooperate with HTC on those UI and apps, not like now that MS does core and speaks with HTC only about core and UI is just only in hands of HTC.
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It is still slow to respond to commands. Looks nothing more than a facelift.
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It's looks completely different, from the 6.5. It also behaves differently. It looks so responsive and quick. Don't know what to think about it's features. So far I like it, but I want to know more about Customization and Multitasking. I'll Wait until MIX10 to give my final judgment.
I am looking forward to it.
I think Microsoft should do this:
1) Make Windows Mobile 6.5 be the OS for geeks looking for complexity.
2) Make Windows Phone 7 Series be the OS for minimalists looking for simplicity.
3) Finally, they should release a mobile OS for geeks looking for complexity but just a revamped look (other than doing stuff like making buttons finger-friendly, there really is no way to make something simple complex, and something complex simple).
What do we know from this vid?
That it's something I will never buy ?
What do we know from this Vid ?
We know that it is a promotional video from M$. And that the finished product will more than likely be much different from this when it hits the street in 4Q.
And we know that looking at this video tells us nothing about how it will act on our phones or the phones we are about to buy.
Didn't we go through all this speculation when WM 6 was previewed ? And WM 6.1 and 6.5 and now we have to go through another 8 months of speculation over WP 7 ?
Why can't they just do an Apple ? Announce it 9:00 am Tues, and have the Upgrade online at 9:01
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The Microsoft Phone 7 Series ... What do we know from this vid?
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Oh, that's simple.
1. Taller phones - what a selling point! "Ours are narrower" -- "or Taller " -- either way, they're "what you want more of"
2. Nothing here that is not currently done on Android phones with their amazing array of widgets and real time integration of information.
3. Nothing that Motoblur doesn't already offer on its CLIQ Android phone.
Unless you mean by What do we know from this vid? that MS has hired some better ad-makers than before.
This must be what you're getting at, right... vs the revolutionary new operating system -- available at end of year -- by that time who knows what iPhone 4.0 series has, nor where Android is in those # of months.
Seems to me one of the last selling points for WM -- and a point I keep arguing against as being a conditioned mirage, and no longer a reality -- is its easy integration with business enterprise systems, thus making it a better choice for IT departments outfitting a sales force with mobile satellite offices.
Yet all I see is consumer coolness "I am off to the gym now" --- wow, even twitter users know that people use twitter for more relevant things now than the original "what are you doing right now".
They will not fall on their faces, they have too much desktop market share to do that, and there's a significant amount of brand loyalty that comes with that, as well as customer ignorance (as in "i don't understand about a lot of this new stuff, but at least if my desktop is Windows, and my phone is windows, i know everything will work") ... But is that a high enough measure of success to beat Android? --- "to not fall on their faces"?
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Oh, that's simple.
1. Taller phones - what a selling point! "Ours are narrower" -- "or Taller " -- either way, they're "what you want more of"
2. Nothing here that is not currently done on Android phones with their amazing array of widgets and real time integration of information.
3. Nothing that Motoblur doesn't already offer on its CLIQ Android phone.
Unless you mean by What do we know from this vid? that MS has hired some better ad-makers than before.
This must be what you're getting at, right... vs the revolutionary new operating system -- available at end of year -- by that time who knows what iPhone 4.0 series has, nor where Android is in those # of months.
Seems to me one of the last selling points for WM -- and a point I keep arguing against as being a conditioned mirage, and no longer a reality -- is its easy integration with business enterprise systems, thus making it a better choice for IT departments outfitting a sales force with mobile satellite offices.
Yet all I see is consumer coolness "I am off to the gym now" --- wow, even twitter users know that people use twitter for more relevant things now than the original "what are you doing right now".
They will not fall on their faces, they have too much desktop market share to do that, and there's a significant amount of brand loyalty that comes with that, as well as customer ignorance (as in "i don't understand about a lot of this new stuff, but at least if my desktop is Windows, and my phone is windows, i know everything will work") ... But is that a high enough measure of success to beat Android? --- "to not fall on their faces"?
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1) You mean longer screens due to the wVGA minimum requirement?
love it. windows mobile 7
Will Android Die tommarrow once the Iphone is announced for Verizon? I think so. As a former 5 time Android phone user I cant wait. I gave the robot every chance. But without the support of Devs making applications an OS is useless.
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Yeah -- have fun with your iPhone then.
HA It wont be dieing for me. I would never pick a iPhone over an android. Android so much more flexible and inventive in my humble opinion.
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Tomorrow does not have an 'a' in it.
And no, the iPhone will not kill the Android no matter what carrier signs it. iPhones share the same traits as Macs -- pretty, easy to use, and nearly idiot-proof -- but the more advanced and adept users will always gravitate towards Android (linux) and Corporate users towards Windows.
Besides, iPhones to date have been overpriced and, like Macs, the only way you can run their OS is on their hardware. Android runs on everything from tablets to mp3 players to cell phones across a variety of manufacturers.
I mean, you're essentially asking if Betty Crocker Instant Mashed Potatoes are going to hurt the sale of spuds. The only real answer is a smack in the mouth.
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I mean, you're essentially asking if Betty Crocker Instant Mashed Potatoes are going to hurt the sale of spuds. The only real answer is a smack in the mouth.
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Backhand hand smack in the mouth?
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iPhones share the same traits as Macs -- pretty, easy to use, and nearly idiot-proof
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awesome dude... share it on twitter xD
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Will Android Die tommarrow once the Iphone is announced for Verizon? I think so. As a former 5 time Android phone user I cant wait. I gave the robot every chance. But without the support of Devs making applications an OS is useless.
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Seriously?? No dev support? Have you taken the phone out of the box and used it?
You do realize that your posting about no dev support on one of the larger dev communities right?
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only used HTC handsets now for maybe 6 years or so, now purely android and a tablet as well.
wife has an iphone 3gs running the new OS on it, had her use my android handset for a week as a test ...
she admitted if it weren't for the games and stupid little bits and bobs she was used to having she'd sell the iphone and switch in a heartbeat but alas not to be
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HA! no support from the devs? Try owning a palm pre. I just ditched one for the new evo shift, and so far I am LOVING the amount of support for android
Please don't feed the troll!
you see now I never asked which was a better os......i stated that without support from TRUE developers making apps a OS is no Good. Android has a horrible market which rarely works. The apps are 2 year old ports from the iphone. As far as the pre i think it has the best os just horrible hardware.
Look at what Nividia showed running on the Tegra chips at CES.....1 year old PORTS of games that run on the Iphone perfectly.
Hardware is fine and dandy but NO SUPPORT guys. Its sad.
I honestly beleive once the iphone comes to verizon noone on BigRed will ever buy an android again. Atleast the common user. Well see soon. This is gonna be fun!!!!!!
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you see now I never asked which was a better os......i stated that without support from TRUE developers making apps a OS is no Good. Android has a horrible market which rarely works. The apps are 2 year old ports from the iphone.
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This is just blatantly wrong, so go troll somewhere else -- there's lots of big-name developers on Android, including some from the iPhone world.
And yes, there's lots of garbage on the android market, but it does work. Don't forget that Amazon will be launching their cleaned-up android market this year too.
@burtcom actually your proving my point. please show me ONE app that they focused on the TEGRA chips that isnt on the Iphone??? Please name one? Also Amazon market??? Ummm where is it? Ohhhh its not here yet....oh ok Let me know when it is!
Please name me the developers on Android...... Netflix (not yet)...Gameloft (ummm old ports from iphone) EA.....ummm wheres madden? Oh still in beta?
Dont talk when you have no clue!
Oh and if there are games on Gamelofts site (the Ports) there made for the droid phones and the resolution is way off wack!!! But enjoy
The US is the last place that the iPhone hasn't been available on multiple carriers. The rest of the world has carriers with both the iPhone and Android phones competing directly, and Android is still doing great there. A Verizon iPhone will probably put a dent in their Android handset sales, no doubt, but there's always going to be a segment of the market that want something cheaper, or more powerful.
So no, Android will be just fine after tomorrow.
And apps are not the be all end all. They only matter so much to iPhone because it's basically just a glorified app launcher with a few apps bundled in. You can't even see the current weather without launching an app.
OP, you do realize that the iPhone is available on many major carriers in the the rest of world, right? Do you seriously think the US has the biggest cellphone market? (The answer is no. I'm telling you this since you probably don't know the answer.) Android is still growing at a rapid rate and taking up market share in the rest of the world. We shall see how the iPhone 4 does IN THE US when it comes to Verizon. If iPhone 4 Verizon does destroy the Android, then Android will die ONLY in the US, not the rest of the world.
So what if many apps are ported from the iPhone? Why don't you ask why those developers are porting their apps over to Android if they don't see the potential of Android?
Technically, Android has the best developer that no iPhone developers can compare - Google itself. Where did iPhone's Maps and Youtube apps come from? Which OS has the better Google apps?
you see now I never asked which was a better os......i stated that without support from TRUE developers making apps a OS is no Good.
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You didn't ask, you simply implied that iOS is better. People here are just disagreeing with you. And most of your arguments are surrounding the game department of the iOS. What else do you have? Even if you bring some more things on the table, you still can't argue what I wrote in my first few paragraphs. Enjoy the iPhone. I honestly think it is a great phone, but I hope you didn't type your posts using the iPhone. If so, learn how to fully use your iPhone please, otherwise it would just be a waste, no offense.
When people keep talking about apps apps apps for iPhone, they are just talking about games. Really, ask any iPhone users what awesome apps they are talking about that aren't games, and they will not have an answer for you. Or name apps that also exist on Android. Netflix? Yeah, its pretty cool. But its not like its been out all that long for iPhone, and the video selection is pretty limited, AND it will be out for Android anytime now, since it was already leaked at CES.
Seriously, how many games do you need? I love playing games as much (probably more) than the next guy. And there is plenty on Android, and developer support is growing. If you need more games than available on Android, its pretty likely that you need to spend more time on other activities besides playing little casual games on your phone.
Besides, not all developers are in love with Apple. Look at Adobe and PrimeSense (the original developer of the XBox 360 Kinect controller). These are important players, that were completely turned off by Apple's need to domineer and control, and eventually gave up on Apple.
The OP implies that the only reason that not everyone owns an iPhone, is because they are tied to Verizon. There are plenty of people like me that have been on AT&T forever, but have no interest in the iPhone. AT&T customer for over a decade, and I've never owned an iPhone, and never will. If Apple had their way, there would be no variety in hardware, or how we use our phones. There will always be people that find these types of limitations suffocating and unacceptable. Some of us like to have the choice of more than one form factor (say a larger screen, or a smaller one, or a hardware keyboard), or to have a homescreen that isn't just a near-useless grid of shortcuts. It would be a sad place where only one device could exist. Luckily, things don't work that way, and there is always room for competition in just about any business. So with any luck, Android won't be going anywhere soon.
Sure the iPhone is popular. But saying an OS is doomed just because its not the most popular platform, and doesn't have the most games, then that's the same as saying Mac computer shouldn't exist either.
Android won't die tomorrow
But troll should die today
I don't know about others but to me a cell its more like a helping hand or what ever you like to call it. Atleast for the tech lovers like me. But we all have different ways of doing our day to day stuffs. Android appreciates and compliments that. That's why I will go for Android. For the level of freedom it gives you, not how many new cookies it have in the box.
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Android is for guys..... iOS is for girls. Really!
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MS says Google's Motorola division violates its patents. Looks like MS is angry they didn't get to corner Google in that Nortel deal and is doing an Apple.
http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/20...la-s-android-phones-infringe-its-patents.html
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That sale went through quick.
I'm sick of lawsuits...
We seriously need some patent reform...
"Microsoft, with less than 2 percent of the market, is counting on an agreement with Espoo, Finland-based Nokia Oyj (NOK) to put Windows Mobile on its phones to increase market share."
Goodbye SymbianOS?
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We seriously need some patent reform...
"Microsoft, with less than 2 percent of the market, is counting on an agreement with Espoo, Finland-based Nokia Oyj (NOK) to put Windows Mobile on its phones to increase market share."
Goodbye SymbianOS?
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old news, go Microsoft. Its about time we have a good OS to sale phones rather than "oh the HTC herpderp has a dual core processor and so much ram." doesn't matter if the OS isn't optimized.
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old news, go Microsoft. Its about time we have a good OS to sale phones rather than "oh the HTC herpderp has a dual core processor and so much ram." doesn't matter if the OS isn't optimized.
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Cool story bro.
Smart move by MS with the tiles and such, must've saved a lot of money to hire some first graders to design the home screen!
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Cool story bro.
Smart move by MS with the tiles and such, must've saved a lot of money to hire some first graders to design the home screen!
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Pwnage of epic proportions!
Petty remark made by someone who never has anything to offer? Shocking.
It must have saved google a ton of money to take bunch of code and programs that are already out there, compile it, and treat it as though it's something new and amazing.
Its nice to have an OS that's nice, smooth, and built from the ground up for my device.
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Petty remark made by someone who never has anything to offer? Shocking.
It must have saved google a ton of money to take bunch of code and programs that are already out there, compile it, and treat it as though it's something new and amazing.
Its nice to have an OS that's nice, smooth, and built from the ground up for my device.
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Lol your fanboism is actually comical. Carry on, I like to laugh.
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Petty remark made by someone who never has anything to offer? Shocking.
It must have saved google a ton of money to take bunch of code and programs that are already out there, compile it, and turn it into something new and amazing.
Its nice to have an OS that's nice, smooth, and built from the ground up for my device.
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Fixed it for accuracy
The stupid thing is, MS could have been market leader 5 years ago if they only took their mobile operations seriously. They never have and I doubt they ever will. They just needed a decent interface, a deal with a book wholesaler to supply their reader, a deal with a music reseller and an app store so they could have bought handango. To bad instead they chose to take a giant leap backwards.
In all fairness, when Microsoft actually recovers from that 2‰, Android will already be in a new generation. Motorola is but a fraction of the massive companies that are backing Android and they all are contributing constantly to better innovations for the OS.
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I think MS have to stock up there device pallet , the devices are cheap ( thats why i bought them ) but today a mobile phone became a status sign( Iphone ), so MS have too make there devices ,,cool,, , means they have too send some phons for free to ABC VIPS ( Iphone ) and the the problem is solved . But i hope the price will stay cheap as in the moment ^^ but with a market who google has to defend android phones get maybe cheaper too , cool for android and wp users ^^. Before the Iphone everybody look where i get the most features for the best price but today sm changed and i dont know what ^^ some answers plz
Software patents are the biggest load of **** I've seen in a long time. If you learn how to write, for example, a search algorithm in college and then use it in a commercial app, too bad if the guy sitting next to you in class has been granted the patent for it. Doubly bad if you invented it and weren't smart enough to get to the patent office before them.
Seriously Apple own patents for such inane **** as "method for interacting with a portable device via touchscreen" and "power management of portable devices". So watch out if you produce a touchscreen phone with power management. If you put any code in there which acts similar to Apples they will sue you sooner or later.
It's about as stupid as allowing Ford to take out a patent on having four wheels on a car.
I'm also pretty sure the Judges who hear these cases know so much about programming they can make informed judgements of these cases ... not. It's all about which legal team can spin the must bull**** to befuddle the courts.
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Petty remark made by someone who never has anything to offer? Shocking.
It must have saved google a ton of money to take bunch of code and programs that are already out there, compile it, and treat it as though it's something new and amazing.
Its nice to have an OS that's boring, bleak, and has no apps.
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I don't follow you... I like customizing my electronics and personalizing them. But if the whole one size fits all thing works for you, then great! (You're in the minority on that one)
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I don't follow you... I like customizing my electronics and personalizing them. But if the whole one size fits all thing works for you, then great! (You're in the minority on that one)
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28 percent of iPhone users have still not added even a wallpaper to their phones, over 90 percent of android users are still running the stock rom and im sure if the study was done you'd find that a large portion of them haven't done much more than add some icons to the homescreen and perhaps toss up a wallpaper. People as a whole by android because they're the free phones you get at most carriers. Your choices are either a feature phone, blackberry, or one of the 30 android devices they have up (or perhaps the one or 2 wp7 devices that they have there but most in-store carriers are still running those at 99 with a 2 year contract.) iPhones are a status symbol. I'll never understand how a phone who's only redeeming quality is pixel density and a junk filled app market (how many tap the trigger to fire a gun games do you need?) got that way but hey, apple is good at marketing. Microsoft wanted to build an OS that sells phones, not the other way around. They hit the nail on the head, unfortunately my toothbrush is more intelligent than the average consumer so well continue to see blind, stupid purchases until Microsoft either gets a marketing team that's not largely run by chimps or they saturate the hell out of the market like android has.
I'll agree about the average consumer in the USA being an idiot. It's clear that not many actually research a product before buying (especially like a phone that will be used every single day for around two years). Beats and Apple are perfect examples. But I just don't see MS ever catching up. Look at all the brands that make Android phones and how many varieties are out there. You're right, so that is why Android sells more because of vast selection. The selection on Android phones will continue to grow. The iPhone's popularity will inevitably grow. I just don't see any room for MS in the mobile market... Especially with the lack of marketing put forth as oppose to Apple and Android. Hell, maybe someone will see a commercial with the WP7 tiles and say "Hey, that looks cool, I want to check it out". But that won't happen, because they never see those commercials. I agree with what someone said before, MS just doesn't seem to put enough effort forth, just like before with Windows Mobile.
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Microsoft wanted to build an OS that sells phones, not the other way around.
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Wish they had.
There were some adverts for WP7 over here but they didn't last long, they may have been pulled by the ASA due to the false claims they made or due to lack of interest.
MS have even resorted to using the US version of their "We turned your front room into a W7 shop" rather than the short lived UK version.
The I'm a PC campaign (not the "and Windows 7 was my idea" ones) was really good, it didn't derride other computer systems like the awful mac/pc ones, so their marketting team can get things right, they just need a decent product to work with though and WP7 just isn't inspiring. Of all the smartphone users I know only 2 have WP7 devices. Over here handsets are often free, even the iphone so price doesn't really come into it.
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Petty remark made by someone who never has anything to offer? Shocking.
It must have saved google a ton of money to take bunch of code and programs that are already out there, compile it, and treat it as though it's something new and amazing.
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They haven't though, have they?
Motorola already had patents saved away for whatever reasons, probably saw this coming and it was an entrepeneurial decision to hold company value later. Al Google did was take info from a dying company and carry it on. Let's face it, If Google let Apple get hold of such info it would privatised and charged for, for many years.
Android is the only way forwards, Nokia were the biggest phone manufacturer say 10 years ago and now they're a distant memory. Apple were only successful because of compatibility within their network of products... people pay for convenience. Once other manufacturers adopt this policy then Apple has no advantage. I know Apple have a patent for technology where hovering your finger above the screen is sensed by the device and selects whatever 'tile' your finger is above. There's no call for it right now but in a few years? If Apple go bust in that time (I know, VERY unlikely) then it's this type of stuff they sell to stay afloat. What if MS bought such info? MS fanboi's wouldn't grumble
Microsoft will be an irrelevant company over the course of the next 10 years.
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They haven't though, have they?
Motorola already had patents saved away for whatever reasons, probably saw this coming and it was an entrepeneurial decision to hold company value later. Al Google did was take info from a dying company and carry it on. Let's face it, If Google let Apple get hold of such info it would privatised and charged for, for many years.
Android is the only way forwards, Nokia were the biggest phone manufacturer say 10 years ago and now they're a distant memory. Apple were only successful because of compatibility within their network of products... people pay for convenience. Once other manufacturers adopt this policy then Apple has no advantage. I know Apple have a patent for technology where hovering your finger above the screen is sensed by the device and selects whatever 'tile' your finger is above. There's no call for it right now but in a few years? If Apple go bust in that time (I know, VERY unlikely) then it's this type of stuff they sell to stay afloat. What if MS bought such info? MS fanboi's wouldn't grumble
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I'm sorry, you just defended android with the argument that people "pay for convenience." that alone is comical.
And that's exactly what google did...
This is just...For the fun of it. I can enjoy a bit of philosophising once in a while. I was playing around with devices of almost every manufacturer (except Motorola, sorry), and thought about the particular quirks and advantages of smartphones.
It might be nice for me first to zoom out to the platform level. There are a few platforms used right now. WP7, Android, BB, iOS come to mind as the main ones. Most smartphones developed and sold are tailored towards a particular operating system. This defines their capabilities, their limitations, and their general goal during their lifespan.
I will address each briefly:
WP7: With the latest Mango, these phones are tailored to social networking. The Lumia 800, for example, is certainly an impressive device in that capacity.
Android: These phones tend to be for people who want to play around with their OS. They generally offer large touchscreens and fast dual-core processors (the latest phones do, at least). One of the dogmas seems to be multimedia ease. I will ask a question about such phones that I will get back to later: "Is there such a thing as too large?".
BB: These phones and the operating system they run on were designed with security in mind. They offer physical keyboards which are unrivalled. RIM also have the best data technology on the market. I like to think of BBs as having the functionality of bricks, but being as hard to take down as bricks as well. These phones are far behind everyone else, but I would state that they are very stable. They also are, potentially, the best phones. I use "phones" in the forgotten capacity: for making calls. They possess the best radios.
iOS: BE UNIQUE! Well, it somewhat worked until everyone and his grandmother had an iPhone. I, personally, despise lowercase "i"s, so have never been tempted that way. What do they offer? Apps. Many, many, many apps. Need I say more? Apple started out with a brilliant idea of how to sell products to the masses (yes, I am quite fond of The Affluent Society), but they have not improved much upon that idea since its inception.
These are obviously non-exhaustive notes. The general purpose of the information written above is to determine the role of smartphones.
Addressing Android, you have speed and power. But is it necessary? The Galaxy Note is awkward. The Galaxy SII is also reasonably so. These devices try to provide a Web and gaming experience, combined with all-around functionality. Sure, they have large screens in order to provide that experience, but a tablet can perform the same things better (refer to Asus Transformer Prime). Is there a point to those functions on a phone? I want to stress "phone" again, since it seems we have strayed so far from the functions of a phone.
Nokia have been producing quality plain handsets for a long time. They sell many of these to developing countries. Their place and their existence is, I believe, justified. Whether they are needed with WP7 is another matter.
Blackberry have always targeted businesses and sought to provide fast text inputs on their phones. Their devices are built like bricks, as I said previously. The BB infrastructure is more impressive than BB phones, in my opinion. Especially the Data compression.
Apple, well...Apple is Apple.
I can only peg down three categories: BB for infrastructure, Nokia for supplying the world with phones, Apple and Android for experimentation and multimedia aspects.
So what is the role of smartphones? Are they too developed for their own good? Typing on a 4.5'' screen in landscape mode will never fail to annoy me. Apple's watchful gaze is creepy. RIM's antipathy towards progress is strange.
This is actually quite well done and addresses the various brands and OS' without being extremely biased that i would be use to=D Bravo and I agree they all have their place
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This is actually quite well done and addresses the various brands and OS' without being extremely biased that i would be use to=D Bravo and I agree they all have their place
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Yay! My freestyle writing is appreciated! =)
Thanks!
Hoping that a few people will want to post their opinions and discuss. After all, we are passionate about smartphones. Otherwise we would not be on here.
Thought I would add something on my "brick" line of thinking. I and a friend got two different phones at approximately the same time in 2008. I got the BlackBerry Storm 9530. He got the HTC Dream (or G1, whichever you prefer to call it). Mine looks, feels, functions as if brand new. His is in a sorry state.
Yeah , I understand your pain of large phones , but some people just don't like tablets and want phones to have tablet-like functionality .
Don't bash me please ! *prones*
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Yeah , I understand your pain of large phones , but some people just don't like tablets and want phones to have tablet-like functionality .
Don't bash me please ! *prones*
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For site about smartphones, I would have thought more people would be interested in this topic. But I suppose I am targeting obsessions...Try telling an iPhone user that iPhones are not the best, or that they are not particularly unique.
What is a phone??? Lol but seriously I do agree we have strayed far away from the cellphone era. We have entered a new age that began in 2005, which I like to refer to as the connected age. With the growing number of smartphone users it is easy to track down anyone you want. Everyone is connected to everyone. Our phones grow larger in size every 6months. I remember when I wanted the smallest most compact flip phone. The bigger it was the uglier it was. Now.... anything under 4.3 inches I cant even use lol. I predict in ten years smartphones will be non existing. It will be converted to tabs. U can buy a tablet for half the price of a brand new sgs2.
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I disagree with tablets being "better" that smartphones or smartphones being replaced by tablets, not everyone can or want to travel with a tab everywhere
A phones portability will trump most of times(a quick pic, quick vid, listening to music, browsing in the crapper,etc)
What i mean is that your not always able to go with a carrying bag(well girls can) or a notebook sized thing in your hands, thats when the mini tab in ur pocket comes to use
Might not be as good as a tablet for somethings but its still performs ok and makes calls, and its very easy to carry around
On the other hand, if the tablets are to replace something, is the laptop
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I disagree with tablets being "better" that smartphones or smartphones being replaced by tablets, not everyone can or want to travel with a tab everywhere
A phones portability will trump most of times(a quick pic, quick vid, listening to music, browsing in the crapper,etc)
What i mean is that your not always able to go with a carrying bag(well girls can) or a notebook sized thing in your hands, thats when the mini tab in ur pocket comes to use
Might not be as good as a tablet for somethings but its still performs ok and makes calls, and its very easy to carry around
On the other hand, if the tablets are to replace something, is the laptop
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OP: you don't seem to understand that people in this era want more than just a phone, if you are complaining that smartphones these days are too advanced to be a phone, then go and get a nokia from 1998 and stop posting on XDA.
The only argument I have is that in which you seem to feel that Blackberry devices are superior in terms of security. I disagree, and also feel that a SPoF has finally shown blackberry devices to be vastly inferior in terms of both security and content delivery.
Food for thought: the US Gov't has finally decided to branch out from the bricks of yesteryear, and now are starting to allow iOS, W*, and A* devices on the AEN with server side security policy implementation. That's saying a lot since they've previously only allowed a BBD on the AEN as all other devices "couldn't be secured". Kinda hard to secure a RIM server in Canada...
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OP: you don't seem to understand that people in this era want more than just a phone, if you are complaining that smartphones these days are too advanced to be a phone, then go and get a nokia from 1998 and stop posting on XDA.
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That's like, just his opinion, man. Why you have to flame home for it, man
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inv3stment said:
OP: you don't seem to understand that people in this era want more than just a phone, if you are complaining that smartphones these days are too advanced to be a phone, then go and get a nokia from 1998 and stop posting on XDA.
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What is a phone??? Lol but seriously I do agree we have strayed far away from the cellphone era. We have entered a new age that began in 2005, which I like to refer to as the connected age. With the growing number of smartphone users it is easy to track down anyone you want. Everyone is connected to everyone. Our phones grow larger in size every 6months. I remember when I wanted the smallest most compact flip phone. The bigger it was the uglier it was. Now.... anything under 4.3 inches I cant even use lol. I predict in ten years smartphones will be non existing. It will be converted to tabs. U can buy a tablet for half the price of a brand new sgs2.
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I disagree with tablets being "better" that smartphones or smartphones being replaced by tablets, not everyone can or want to travel with a tab everywhere
A phones portability will trump most of times(a quick pic, quick vid, listening to music, browsing in the crapper,etc)
What i mean is that your not always able to go with a carrying bag(well girls can) or a notebook sized thing in your hands, thats when the mini tab in ur pocket comes to use
Might not be as good as a tablet for somethings but its still performs ok and makes calls, and its very easy to carry around
On the other hand, if the tablets are to replace something, is the laptop
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It is not that I am a great fan of BlackBerry. It is just that I am very uneasy about Androids. What is to say you will not be charged $1,000 on your next bill due to an exploit allowing premium text messages to be sent from your device without your knowledge?
Yes, I have a bias towards security. We have Facebook and Twitter, which are used as breeding grounds for all sorts of mayhem...Obviously all they have done is displayed all our private information to the whole world. That is really going to be regretted by everyone using those services...Sooner or later. We have the multimedia Androids which ignore fundamental issues and have grown too large to comfortably use. HAVE YOU NEVER HAD TO REALLY STRETCH YOUR FINGER TO REACH AN ICON, OR USE ANOTHER HAND?
Regarding tablets, are we really suggesting that they can beat laptops at anything important? If the general stream is towards mass procrastination, tablets have helped us achieve that. But I do not see the next 10 years seeing tablets replacing laptops.
Well, i still think the future of the laptop and notebook is the tablet
And blackberrys are not as safe as you think they are
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smartphones - of any kind - are the functional equivalent of the light bulb. game changer. amazing tech advance.
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smartphones - of any kind - are the functional equivalent of the light bulb. game changer. amazing tech advance.
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Some of the biggest advances are as simple as a dung when analized deeply but still revolutionary
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I've been a fan of Smartphones for a while. I have a Samsung Galaxy Ace, mainly because I couldnt afford the SII at the time. I like the Bigger phones cause i can use it for reading, watching media, surfing the web, looking at pictures, etc...
Personally I'm hoping to get a galaxy note for my birthday next year as its perfect for everything I like to do with my phone.
For me, smartphone is a universal device which is computer replacement anywhere, where there are no computers.
No doubt this year and the one coming have been and will be a giant evolution in smart phones and their operating systems that are embedded in them, but the question is: Jellybean 4.2 or Windows Phone 8 Metro? Why do you like it or not like it as well. Thanks its just a bit of a survey.
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I would suggest Windows phone 8. As everyone knows Android attracts virus and malware. It is too laggy and stuff.
Windows phone OS is something new and awesome in design. It is not as laggy as Android. Not many security issues.
If you need to buy a Windows phone 8, Nokia Lumia 920 is my choice. No Android!
http://winappleworld.com/top-windows-phone-8-features-you-should-know/ - Have a look
Windows Phone 8.
I too am eyeing it. But cant decide 8S or 820.
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Android - without question. I have zero interest in using anything that comes from Microsoft. Pretty much their whole product portfolio is driven by: Oh ****, someone made something that's successful and we are missing the bandwagon? Quick, let's throw a massive amount of money at building a knock-off that looks like the original thing but clearly shows that we haven't understood what put the magic into it.
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Android - without question. I have zero interest in using anything that comes from Microsoft. Pretty much their whole product portfolio is driven by: Oh ****, someone made something that's successful and we are missing the bandwagon? Quick, let's throw a massive amount of money at building a knock-off that looks like the original thing but clearly shows that we haven't understood what put the magic into it.
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Totally wrong. In what way does a WP8 look like Android? In fact, Android looks like Apple's ugly twin.
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Windows 8 something new.
I haven't tried Windows 8 phone nor have I tried a Windows 7 phone. Android seems good to me this far though, only reason I would go for a Windows 8 phone is just to try something new, that's about it...I know pretty dumb reason . I just like trying different things, though I would obviously do some research on it first; though Windows 8 is suppose to be stable, but not sure how big there App store is, I heard its pretty small at the moment.
It seems to me for Windows 8 big future, after all it is a universal platform for PC
It seems to me for Windows 8 big future, after all it is a universal platform for PC and phones
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As everyone knows Android attracts virus and malware. It is too laggy and stuff.
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For the most part that is categorically untrue, viruses are practically non-existent due to the fact that Android is Linux based. It has non-infectious malware yes but only if you have no common sense and can't use a ratings system in a very basic way. That is a slight drawback of an almost completely open app market where a corporation cannot generally control things by banning stuff whenever it likes.
As for laggy, again simply not true. There just happens to be more of a range of devices from low end to very fast high end.
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For the most part that is categorically untrue, viruses are practically non-existent due to the fact that Android is Linux based. It has non-infectious malware yes but only if you have no common sense and can't use a ratings system in a very basic way. That is a slight drawback of an almost completely open app market where a corporation cannot generally control things by banning stuff whenever it likes.
As for laggy, again simply not true. There just happens to be more of a range of devices from low end to very fast high end.
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I agree. Also I'd say that for many Android phones (not all) you can find developers willing to personalize and modify your stock Rom.
This is not possible in a closed OS: you have to accept it like it is.
I have a Huawei Shine with the Mod Rom of the user bgcngm and I don't find it laggy.
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Totally wrong. In what way does a WP8 look like Android? In fact, Android looks like Apple's ugly twin.
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I wrote that Microsoft's innovation more or less entirely consists of copying competitors (poorly), not that W8 is a an Android knock-off.
Time for a bigger picture: about 5 years ago, Apple came up with the IPhone. Up until then, most mobile phones had a number keyboard, a tiny screen and allowed you to customize them with wallpapers and ringtones (at a ridiculous cost). Apple changed that. Suddenly, you had a large touchscreen, the ability to run apps and with that also the ability to use your phone for more than making the carriers money.
Microsofts reaction to that (google "blamer laughs at iphone"): $500 for a phone? Lol! The iphone became a success. Microsofts reaction to that: shock and awe. W7 had to be released in a hurry. If you were stupid enough to buy a W7 phone... well... sucks. You have no upgrade plan.
Speaking of W7. Its UI is based on the Zune. Zune what was that again? Oh right, Microsofts shock and awe reaction to Apple's Ipod. Hello WMA, hello DRM, I always wanted a file format that allows me to do less.
Let's go back a few more years. Back then, around 1993, Bill Gates was asked about the internet and in his opinion, it was merely a hype, windows fileshares were the future. Two years later, win95 shipped without a browser and without installing TCP/IP. Netscape became the darling of the new economy and Microsoft became pretty jealous. The browserwars started and for years to come, we had to deal with the IE (aka Infection Engine).
Let's go back a few more years even. Microsoft in it's first years. Bill Gates vision of an Operation System literally looked like this:
C:\>
Apple came along and their vision actually looked like something (namely: a desktop). Microsofts reaction to that... well ... the win 3.x product line, aka the "colorful clownsuit for DOS". Something that never knew if it wanted to be an operating system or a GUI on top of an operating system. Hence it was both and neither at the same time, ridiculous to use and crashed whenever it had the chance to.
So, what else do we have? Oh yes, Surface, the "tablet" that does not really know if it wants to be a tablet or an ultrabook and hence tries to be both for the sole reason of microsoft again being in shock and awe and afraid of a competitor establishing an industry standard for Office on the tablet market, that is not MS office.
To summarize my point: None of Microsoft's major products is an innovation of their own. It's all "me too", usually inferior and generally only successful because MS has the leverage to swamp out their competition.
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It seems to me for Windows 8 big future, after all it is a universal platform for PC and phones
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So ... you are interested in the universal tow coupling for caravans, truck trailers and railway carriage? Win8 is a complete and utter failure as it makes you constantly switch between a UI optimized for touchscreens and a UI that is optimized for mouse/keyboard. Yes, it's universal, but that doesn't make it usable.
onyxbits said:
I never wrote that Microsoft's innovation more or less entirely consists of copying competitors (poorly), not that W8 is a an Android knock-off.
Time for a bigger picture: about 5 years ago, Apple came up with the IPhone. Up until then, most mobile phones had a number keyboard, a tiny screen and allowed you to customize them with wallpapers and ringtones (at a ridiculous cost). Apple changed that. Suddenly, you had a large touchscreen, the ability to run apps and with that also the ability to use your phone for more than making the carriers money.
Microsofts reaction to that (google "blamer laughs at iphone"): $500 for a phone? Lol! The iphone became a success. Microsofts reaction to that: shock and awe. W7 had to be released in a hurry. If you were stupid enough to buy a W7 phone... well... sucks. You have no upgrade plan.
Speaking of W7. Its UI is based on the Zune. Zune what was that again? Oh right, Microsofts shock and awe reaction to Apple's Ipod. Hello WMA, hello DRM, I always wanted a file format that allows me to do less.
Let's go back a few more years. Back then, around 1993, Bill Gates was asked about the internet and in his opinion, it was merely a hype, windows fileshares were the future. Two years later, win95 shipped without a browser and without installing TCP/IP. Netscape became the darling of the new economy and Microsoft became pretty jealous. The browserwars started and for years to come, we had to deal with the IE (aka Infection Engine).
Let's go back a few more years even. Microsoft in it's first years. Bill Gates vision of an Operation System literally looked like this:
C:\>
Apple came along and their vision actually looked like something (namely: a desktop). Microsofts reaction to that... well ... the win 3.x product, aka the "colorful clownsuit for DOS". Something that never knew if it wanted to be an operating system or a GUI on top of an operating system. Hence it was both and neither at the same time, ridiculous to use and crashed whenever it had the chance to.
So, what else do we have? Oh yes, Surface, the "tablet" that does not really know if it wants to be a tablet or an ultrabook and hence tries to be both for the sole reason of microsoft again being in shock and awe and afraid of a competitor establishing an industry standard for Office on the tablet market, that is not MS office.
To summarize my point: None of Microsoft's major products is an innovation of their own. It's all "me too", usually inferior and generally only successful because MS has the leverage to swamp out their competition.
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So ... you are interested in the universal tow coupling for caravans, truck trailers and railway carriage? Win8 is a complete and utter failure as it makes you constantly switch between a UI optimized for touchscreens and a UI that is optimized for mouse/keyboard. Yes, it's universal, but that doesn't make it usable.
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Whoa! Never thought of that. I have to agree. If u don't mind, can u tell me what u think of Android? I would love to hear.
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Windows phone is a very nice os, which doesn't get a boring as ios quite so quickly. The whole fluidity of the os is a joy to use, but it lacks most of my favourite apps. Even Android lacks a few of the greatest ios apps but not many. Been running a note 2 for a few weeks now. Absolutely no lag anywhere on Android. So much customisation, apps have improved so much now almost on par with ios. The other thing with windows phone, im not sure I like the big word styling everywhere. If you like the styling, don't care much about apps and not into customisation and freedom to adjust everything on your device. Go for windows phone. With Android you have a better choice of apps. Can change the styling to suit. Can be as fluid and lag free especially with jelly bean and the latest devices.
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Hold on a minute. This is all wrong. WM devices have been around way before iPhones existed. In fact, this website blew up because of people wanting to mod their WM phones. I was on XDA modding my WM5 and WM6 phones as early as 2005, if I recall correctly. The last one I had, HTC Titan II, had a decent touchscreen and lots of functionality, ran apps, networking capability, etc. Back then, you had Symbian, Blackberry, or Windows Mobile. The year after was right around the time when touchscreen keyboards were starting to become popular for smartphones - maybe end of 2006. I still had my friends laughing at me for having a giant phone. The iPhone came out the following year, and soon enough everyone had a giant phone. Although Apple destroyed the market with style and functionality, the iPhone was *not* the first smartphone. Not even close. They just, as usual, set a precedent for an extremely well-designed device. There were loads of well-functioning and popular touchscreen smartphones prior to the iPhone, with WiFi, GPS, and a touchscreen.
Fast forward 7 years and I still have an HTC phone, but with Android. HTC have been making great devices since before the iPhone. I'm sure Windows Mobile would not be an upgrade for me at this point. However, for my productivity in 2006, it was outstanding and absolutely critical. It was not pretty, it was functional - and it definitely paved some of the way for IOS and Android. I wish people would stop giving Apple more credit than they deserve. I'm not disputing your Microsoft facts - MS is truly ridiculous and fail miserably at designing products for consumers. But there were plenty of good smartphones before the iPhone, which is why this site exists in the first place.
Android, to be sure.
onyxbits said:
I never wrote that Microsoft's innovation more or less entirely consists of copying competitors (poorly), not that W8 is a an Android knock-off.
Time for a bigger picture: about 5 years ago, Apple came up with the IPhone. Up until then, most mobile phones had a number keyboard, a tiny screen and allowed you to customize them with wallpapers and ringtones (at a ridiculous cost). Apple changed that. Suddenly, you had a large touchscreen, the ability to run apps and with that also the ability to use your phone for more than making the carriers money.
Microsofts reaction to that (google "blamer laughs at iphone"): $500 for a phone? Lol! The iphone became a success. Microsofts reaction to that: shock and awe. W7 had to be released in a hurry. If you were stupid enough to buy a W7 phone... well... sucks. You have no upgrade plan.
Speaking of W7. Its UI is based on the Zune. Zune what was that again? Oh right, Microsofts shock and awe reaction to Apple's Ipod. Hello WMA, hello DRM, I always wanted a file format that allows me to do less.
Let's go back a few more years. Back then, around 1993, Bill Gates was asked about the internet and in his opinion, it was merely a hype, windows fileshares were the future. Two years later, win95 shipped without a browser and without installing TCP/IP. Netscape became the darling of the new economy and Microsoft became pretty jealous. The browserwars started and for years to come, we had to deal with the IE (aka Infection Engine).
Let's go back a few more years even. Microsoft in it's first years. Bill Gates vision of an Operation System literally looked like this:
C:\>
Apple came along and their vision actually looked like something (namely: a desktop). Microsofts reaction to that... well ... the win 3.x product, aka the "colorful clownsuit for DOS". Something that never knew if it wanted to be an operating system or a GUI on top of an operating system. Hence it was both and neither at the same time, ridiculous to use and crashed whenever it had the chance to.
So, what else do we have? Oh yes, Surface, the "tablet" that does not really know if it wants to be a tablet or an ultrabook and hence tries to be both for the sole reason of microsoft again being in shock and awe and afraid of a competitor establishing an industry standard for Office on the tablet market, that is not MS office.
To summarize my point: None of Microsoft's major products is an innovation of their own. It's all "me too", usually inferior and generally only successful because MS has the leverage to swamp out their competition.
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So ... you are interested in the universal tow coupling for caravans, truck trailers and railway carriage? Win8 is a complete and utter failure as it makes you constantly switch between a UI optimized for touchscreens and a UI that is optimized for mouse/keyboard. Yes, it's universal, but that doesn't make it usable.
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WP or Android
Windows Phone 7 sucks just because of 2 elementary features: Bluetooth File Transfer and Mass Storage, I think it's a marketing gimmick, everybody is just interested what new will next OS version bring, then BOOM Windows Phone 8, resizable tiles, bluetooth transfer, mass storage, WOW do you heard that new lumia has BLUETOOTH TRANSFER? NO WAY, I MUST BUY IT, that's just what I was missing in my old lumia.
One thing I like in WP is simplicity and quality. WP is always the same, Android is modified by phone manufacturers and I can find bugs even in official firmware - it does not occur in Windows Phone.
But in the end, I choose Android - I like the fact that there is so much to rummage :laugh:
Both are boring maybe salfish or bb10..., oh ! wait firefox os is in the cards too
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onyxbits said:
I never wrote that Microsoft's innovation more or less entirely consists of copying competitors (poorly), not that W8 is a an Android knock-off.
Time for a bigger picture: about 5 years ago, Apple came up with the IPhone. Up until then, most mobile phones had a number keyboard, a tiny screen and allowed you to customize them with wallpapers and ringtones (at a ridiculous cost). Apple changed that. Suddenly, you had a large touchscreen, the ability to run apps and with that also the ability to use your phone for more than making the carriers money.
Microsofts reaction to that (google "blamer laughs at iphone"): $500 for a phone? Lol! The iphone became a success. Microsofts reaction to that: shock and awe. W7 had to be released in a hurry. If you were stupid enough to buy a W7 phone... well... sucks. You have no upgrade plan.
Speaking of W7. Its UI is based on the Zune. Zune what was that again? Oh right, Microsofts shock and awe reaction to Apple's Ipod. Hello WMA, hello DRM, I always wanted a file format that allows me to do less.
Let's go back a few more years. Back then, around 1993, Bill Gates was asked about the internet and in his opinion, it was merely a hype, windows fileshares were the future. Two years later, win95 shipped without a browser and without installing TCP/IP. Netscape became the darling of the new economy and Microsoft became pretty jealous. The browserwars started and for years to come, we had to deal with the IE (aka Infection Engine).
Let's go back a few more years even. Microsoft in it's first years. Bill Gates vision of an Operation System literally looked like this:
C:\>
Apple came along and their vision actually looked like something (namely: a desktop). Microsofts reaction to that... well ... the win 3.x product, aka the "colorful clownsuit for DOS". Something that never knew if it wanted to be an operating system or a GUI on top of an operating system. Hence it was both and neither at the same time, ridiculous to use and crashed whenever it had the chance to.
So, what else do we have? Oh yes, Surface, the "tablet" that does not really know if it wants to be a tablet or an ultrabook and hence tries to be both for the sole reason of microsoft again being in shock and awe and afraid of a competitor establishing an industry standard for Office on the tablet market, that is not MS office.
To summarize my point: None of Microsoft's major products is an innovation of their own. It's all "me too", usually inferior and generally only successful because MS has the leverage to swamp out their competition.
---------- Post added at 12:19 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:07 AM ----------
So ... you are interested in the universal tow coupling for caravans, truck trailers and railway carriage? Win8 is a complete and utter failure as it makes you constantly switch between a UI optimized for touchscreens and a UI that is optimized for mouse/keyboard. Yes, it's universal, but that doesn't make it usable.
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Wait, but that is all wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFeC25BM9E0
Video incredibly relevant, apple has never been a source of innovation.
PROGUERAM said:
Whoa! Never thought of that. I have to agree. If u don't mind, can u tell me what u think of Android? I would love to hear.
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I have quite mixed feelings about Android. It is a system created by an advertising company and as such it has huge build-in privacy concerns. You can barely use the platform without tying yourself into the Google ecosystem (just try getting apps without having a Google account) and when you do, you can no longer stay anonymous. Use android to its fullest and you will give them your Name, credit card number, birthday, location, contacts, phonenumber and communication. In short: the wet dreams of an advertiser come through -> Total customer awareness and their privacy policy states pretty much that they are free to use that information in any way they like to.
To make matters worse, that data is also of interest to governments worldwide and since 9/11 we see constant attempts of legislators to push for laws to allow them to spy on their citizens (you may want to google "STASI" to get an idea of why it is a BAD idea to give governments the power to spy on their citizens).
Another thing, I thoroughly dislike on Android is the permission system. It's simply broken by design. Most users don't understand what most permissions encompass and you can't selectively deny them.
Then there is the problem that Google doesn't seem to have the balls to step up to carriers and make Android rooted by default. Ideally, you should own what you pay for, practically, you need root to install things like firewalls which are common sense on the PC, but for some reason not on a phone where the whole ecosystem pretty much demands it.
Last but not least, I have pretty much come to hate the screen on most devices. I never liked 16:9, I prefer 4:3 and as a developer, supporting a gazillion of different resolutions is a nightmare. I just published Pocket Bandit and getting the artwork to scale right was hell.
Android over Windows because Google Play has tons more apps and games than Windows 8 Appstore does, and Android has better sync options and the whole OS is built on your Google account. Like really... who wants to use Hotmail or Bing.
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Whoa! Never thought of that. I have to agree. If u don't mind, can u tell me what u think of Android? I would love to hear. <br />
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I have quite mixed feelings about Android. It is a system created by an advertising company and as such it has huge build-in privacy concerns. You can barely use the platform without tying yourself into the Google ecosystem (just try getting apps without having a Google account) and when you do, you can no longer stay anonymous. Use android to its fullest and you will give them your Name, credit card number, birthday, location, contacts, phonenumber and communication. In short: the wet dreams of an advertiser come through -> Total customer awareness and their privacy policy states pretty much that they are free to use that information in any way they like to.<br />
To make matters worse, that data is also of interest to governments worldwide and since 9/11 we see constant attempts of legislators to push for laws to allow them to spy on their citizens (you may want to google "STASI" to get an idea of why it is a BAD idea to give governments the power to spy on their citizens).<br />
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Another thing, I thoroughly dislike on Android is the permission system. It's simply broken by design. Most users don't understand what most permissions encompass and you can't selectively deny them.<br />
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Then there is the problem that Google doesn't seem to have the balls to step up to carriers and make Android rooted by default. Ideally, you should own what you pay for, practically, you need root to install things like firewalls which are common sense on the PC, but for some reason not on a phone where the whole ecosystem pretty much demands it.<br />
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Last but not least, I have pretty much come to hate the screen on most devices. I never liked 16:9, I prefer 4:3 and as a developer, supporting a gazillion of different resolutions is a nightmare. I just published Pocket Bandit and getting the artwork to scale right was hell.
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My god! You are an encyclopedia man...i would love to interact with u more. The facts you spoke are just mind blowing. It is rare that on a public forum, someone baffles u with knowledge of mammoth proportions. Is there a way we can keep in touch on Twitter? Or FB?
And that "It is a system created by an advertising company" comment just cracked me up. I work FOR an advertising firm and believe me it's just funny.
Just one question though, u said "Android does this...Android does that.." but don't ALL operating systems ask for your credit card information to buy apps? Isn't that a norm? How different is purchasing something online than in a real store? Why blame Android? Even WP does that and so does Apple..
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