First impressions on the hardware - Thunderbolt General

The good:
- The screen is pretty good. Not as vibrant or saturated in color as an AMOLED screen, but not bad either. Very comparable/narrowly better than the Droid X.
- The screen itself is pretty comparable to other offerings as far as how responsive it is. Its still behind the iPhone in terms of ease of swipe, BUT, the swipes are SUPER responsive. Faster than the Incredible and the Droid X and even my Fascinate. Fastest screen transitions of any phone out of the box, in stock form.
- The kickstand is a brushed aluminum, very nice and feels sturdy.
- The back of the phone is FLUSH. As in, the camera lens isn't sticking out like it is with the EVO or virtually all the other Droids on Verizon.
- The buttons are capacitive, and seem to be pretty responsive to the touch.
- The unit itself has a good color and feels sturdy and solid in your hands. Think EVO but less plastic
The bad:
- Its heavy. Heavier than the EVO, which is pretty heavy compared to other phones of its size (definitely heavier than the Droid X)
- The LED light is BEHIND the speaker screen, so its a bit tougher to see compared to other phones.
- The SIM card can be a pain to get in, and requires pulling the battery out.
- The SD card also requires taking the battery out
- The back cover requires "snaps" at the corners to get it to shut completely.
Anything else I'm forgetting, feel free to ask.

mexiken said:
The good:
- The screen is pretty good. Not as vibrant or saturated in color as an AMOLED screen, but not bad either. Very comparable/narrowly better than the Droid X.
- The screen itself is pretty comparable to other offerings as far as how responsive it is. Its still behind the iPhone in terms of ease of swipe, BUT, the swipes are SUPER responsive. Faster than the Incredible and the Droid X and even my Fascinate. Fastest screen transitions of any phone out of the box, in stock form.
- The kickstand is a brushed aluminum, very nice and feels sturdy.
- The back of the phone is FLUSH. As in, the camera lens isn't sticking out like it is with the EVO or virtually all the other Droids on Verizon.
- The buttons are capacitive, and seem to be pretty responsive to the touch.
- The unit itself has a good color and feels sturdy and solid in your hands. Think EVO but less plastic
The bad:
- Its heavy. Heavier than the EVO, which is pretty heavy compared to other phones of its size (definitely heavier than the Droid X)
- The LED light is BEHIND the speaker screen, so its a bit tougher to see compared to other phones.
- The SIM card can be a pain to get in, and requires pulling the battery out.
- The SD card also requires taking the battery out
- The back cover requires "snaps" at the corners to get it to shut completely.
Anything else I'm forgetting, feel free to ask.
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Call quality?
Loudness? Ringtones loud enough when kickstand is down?
Reception?
Quadrant benchmarks?

Can you post comparison pics of your fascinate and the thunderbolt?
Which do you prefer so far?
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I abused one in the store today. Very snappy. feels nice in your hand. I was pleased enough to have them hold me one for the morning...I was hoping the screen would be as nice to look at as my inc Ill agree is was more responsive...it is hefty but I wouldnt say is is a brick...
An incremental upgrade from my Inc. but not a monumental one.

When you have a chance, please let us know about the battery life.

Ringtones are a good volume, tried a few different volumes.
Works fine with kickstand and ringing, you can still hear it just fine.
Quadrant is 1735.
I will post up the pictures later tonight when I get home from work
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Call quality is good, same as any htc.
The phone stays at work. I'm actually gonna get a replacement through work and its gonna be this one. Im just playing with it and setting this one up for today.
I still prefer my sf, but then again, I've got it all customized to my liking, plus I have spb shell 3D =)
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What are the data speeds?
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Thanks for the detailed impression, but it IS lighter than the evo. By fractions of ounces, but it is.

GermanGuy said:
What are the data speeds?
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8-12 down, and we were getting crazy, and I mean, CRAZY high upload speeds. We ran 5 tests, and they were all 22+ upload, it was insane....

Cozmosis said:
Thanks for the detailed impression, but it IS lighter than the evo. By fractions of ounces, but it is.
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It DEFINITELY doesn't feel that way. I held both in my hand, and so did the owner of the EVO, and she agreed, the Thunderbolt felt heavier.

As promised, here are the pictures:

How much memory is dedicated for app storage, I heard 5 gb please tell me that is true
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How much memory is dedicated for app storage, I heard 5 gb please tell me that is true
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The internal is 8 Gigs, with I believe a total of about 6.7 or something in there available for apps

I heard it has about 2 gb available just for apps so I hope you're right I guess ill just find out tomorrow morning
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As promised, here are the pictures:
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those pics are Pure sex

hi could you tell me the battery dimensions was wondering if it would fit the dhd

I got a quadrant standard score of 1767. I went to play a game of angry birds and browsed a website, reran quadrant and got a 1343. I rebooted it and again got my 1767 score. But the demo still looked smooth on the 1300's score. I lost half my battery in 4 hours with wifi turned off. I didn't get my service hooked up yet as verizon's registration was broken all last night

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But the demo still looked smooth on the 1300's score. I lost half my battery in 4 hours with wifi turned off. I didn't get my service hooked up yet as verizon's registration was broken all last night
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You lost that much battery in 4 hours with none of the cellular radios or wifi on? How much of that was you running quadrant/playing angry birds? That's not encouraging at all...

Screen
How is the screen? Is it plastic or glass?

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I think I will stay with G2x after testing Sensation

I had an opportunity to borrow one from corp store rep.
Unfortunately, I am not impressed with this machine. The screen gets washed out if you watch more than 30 degrees off while G2x doesn't (it gets blue tint though).
The rep told me it gets 24xx on Quadrant, which is about same as my G2x.
Moreover, mine doesn't have much problem, so it may be wise for me to stay with G2x and wait for Samsung Hercules.
The screen size makes me want the sensation. The screen quality keeps me at the g2x
G2x with faux AOSP
Timely thread for me. I'm returning my 2nd one and was really studying that Sensation a little while ago....."Should I cut my losses and get this"? Looks pretty good, it really does, but I'm staying with the G2X.
Hopefully the third one works without the reboots. But it is so nice I think I'd likely try a fourth. This after much thought.
It definately needs replacing.....hell it disconnected w/ black screen WHILE I was talking to the T mobile rep today LOL and while it did not reboot in the night, it did lose the bookmarks.
But my daughters is still running perfectly. Not one problem.
And man, this phone is just like her. When its good, it's very very good, but when it's bad....
I really love this phone.
How often are you getting these reboots? I've had a total of 3 G2X's in my household, and none of them suffer from reboots. I had to replace mine today because of USB issues, but other than that the phones have been great.
1st locked up twice and the flashlight went on (?) and I had to pull the battery. Frankly that wasn't enough to return it but two days later was when they mysteriously disappeared fron the shelves and I had an Ick attack. It was on my 14th day and I exchanged it, just in case.
This one as I said elsewhere has been resetting in the night. Every morning I wake up to the phone wanting my sim password. I accidently activated that and like it. But seeing it tells me it has reset, which I would not notice otherwise I don't think. And I have been interupted three or four times on my calls with the phone shutting off. And it reboots randomly and frequently during the day. This is not good.
The first day (friday) it locked up with a very loud buzzing sound, not like the vibration but a loud buzz. This is my main reason for sending it back. I do believe the reboots issues will be fixed with the update.
In retospect I probably should have kept the first one. It was problem free other than the two incidents.
I really don't know which way to go.I'm a die hard invidia fan and the tegra 2 IMO will outperform the Snapdragon anytime but due to all the build issues with the G2X I just don't know where to look.
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Reviews of the Sensation coming out fast now.....this is a good one....love the brit chick
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-sensation-943466/review
the screen part: HTC has long had a problem with screen visibility in direct sunlight, and it seems that issue has continued somewhat with the Sensation. It's definitely a step up, as at medium brightness you can make out what's on the screen, but compare it to the iPhone 4's Retina Display or the Super AMOLED Plus of the Galaxy S2 and it's miles behind. However, the resolution is definitely a step forward, and the sharpness of the text is impressive.
Samsung Galaxy S2 vs HTC Sensation vs iPhone 4 Screen Comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UgDpwaDh78
Big toss up. Screen size is very tempting. I loved HTC built devices and the LG kinda let me down with all its kinks, but the support is nice.
I've got a solid G2X, no freezing, rebooting, and minimal screen bleed (after 1 return). The sensation looks like a great phone to me but the size of the G2X is the biggest I'll ever go. And after 2 HTC phones I'll never go back until they replace that damn speaker phone speaker with something you can actually hear.
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Reviews of the Sensation coming out fast now.....this is a good one....love the brit chick
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-sensation-943466/review
the screen part: HTC has long had a problem with screen visibility in direct sunlight, and it seems that issue has continued somewhat with the Sensation. It's definitely a step up, as at medium brightness you can make out what's on the screen, but compare it to the iPhone 4's Retina Display or the Super AMOLED Plus of the Galaxy S2 and it's miles behind. However, the resolution is definitely a step forward, and the sharpness of the text is impressive.
Samsung Galaxy S2 vs HTC Sensation vs iPhone 4 Screen Comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UgDpwaDh78
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In all honesty, that second link was mostly garbage. If you're going to compare 3 devices, at least do it in a common and neutral environment. It seems a bit silly to judge text clarity when you're looking at several different examples on different backgrounds and text effects.
Angle of view is also useless after a certain point. If you're viewing your phone at a 20 degree angle, it might be best to worry about untying yourself and getting away from your kidnappers first.
wasnt the screen on this thing supposed to be abit concaved? certainly didnt look that way in them pics on one of them links!
tombaker1 said:
Reviews of the Sensation coming out fast now.....this is a good one....love the brit chick
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-sensation-943466/review
the screen part: HTC has long had a problem with screen visibility in direct sunlight, and it seems that issue has continued somewhat with the Sensation. It's definitely a step up, as at medium brightness you can make out what's on the screen, but compare it to the iPhone 4's Retina Display or the Super AMOLED Plus of the Galaxy S2 and it's miles behind. However, the resolution is definitely a step forward, and the sharpness of the text is impressive.
Samsung Galaxy S2 vs HTC Sensation vs iPhone 4 Screen Comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UgDpwaDh78
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Yet another example of how HTC made such a huge profit. Cheaped out on decent hardware parts.
G2x with faux AOSP
speedbreaker said:
wasnt the screen on this thing supposed to be abit concaved? certainly didnt look that way in them pics on one of them links!
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Yes, or atleast its supposed to sit a bit inside the housing so that when you set it face down it doesn't touch the surface.
booch137 said:
I've got a solid G2X, no freezing, rebooting, and minimal screen bleed (after 1 return). The sensation looks like a great phone to me but the size of the G2X is the biggest I'll ever go. And after 2 HTC phones I'll never go back until they replace that damn speaker phone speaker with something you can actually hear.
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I thought the same thing, go look at the specs compared to the G2X
http://androinica.com/2011/04/t-mobile-g2x-vs-htc-sensation/ scroll down a little.
G2X Dimenions
4.90 x 2.50 x 0.40
Sensation Dimenions
4.96 x 2.57 x 0.44
and only weighs .22oz more for the aluminum feeling.
I remember reading people really liked the metal strip the G2X has, that they would avoid putting a cover on it cause it looked so nice!!! I agreed but still bought a case since I'm selling the G2X for this aluminum sexy model called a phone, haha. I just love the feel of HTC phones prefer Sense overall as well... sucks for those with all those issues and still want to keep the G2X I feel bad as I have no issues and am still selling this phone.
Good luck peeps.
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I thought the same thing, go look at the specs compared to the G2X
http://androinica.com/2011/04/t-mobile-g2x-vs-htc-sensation/ scroll down a little.
G2X Dimenions
4.90 x 2.50 x 0.40
Sensation Dimenions
4.96 x 2.57 x 0.44
and only weighs .22oz more for the aluminum feeling.
I remember reading people really liked the metal strip the G2X has, that they would avoid putting a cover on it cause it looked so nice!!! I agreed but still bought a case since I'm selling the G2X for this aluminum sexy model called a phone, haha. I just love the feel of HTC phones prefer Sense overall as well... sucks for those with all those issues and still want to keep the G2X I feel bad as I have no issues and am still selling this phone.
Good luck peeps.
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Have no issues with my G2X either but I feel the Sensations aluminum body isn't enough of a upgrade over the G2x but I can tell you what is a worthy upgrade. A SGSII variant. It's still the phone to beat and is still called the best Android phone that exists. Engadget even said in the Sensation review that the SGSII was more responsive and had more power. Myriam on Engadget said it wasn't enough to get rid of her SGSII and Sense was holding it down. I think I'll pass since I won't have enough app storage available to even store 2 of my Game Loft games. It's 2011 and HTC is still giving us 1gb of app storsge.
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Have no issues with my G2X either but I feel the Sensations aluminum body isn't enough of a upgrade over the G2x but I can tell you what is a worthy upgrade. A SGSII variant. It's still the phone to beat and is still called the best Android phone that exists. Engadget even said in the Sensation review that the SGSII was more responsive and had more power. Myriam on Engadget said it wasn't enough to get rid of her SGSII and Sense was holding it down. I think I'll pass since I won't have enough app storage available to even store 2 of my Game Loft games. It's 2011 and HTC is still giving us 1gb of app storsge.
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ya I dont want plastic at all... and launcher pro will take care of the sense hogging down if it does slow it down... doubt it will. The Sensations resolution helps with pixels... I've seen a couple captivates, and a vibrants that had weird looks to the text stuff... Sure they are bright and vivid but clarity is awesome...
Besides that Samsung has a well bad rap when it comes to phones, lol... just saying the G2X is awesome but I prefer HTC and Sense.
Let us know how you feel when its not so great in sunlight.
G2x with faux AOSP
remember people
the sensation has most likely been sitting in boxes with those encrypted bootloaders.
and the benchmarks i see do not score 2400 on the sensation.
But it should be a decent phone, also the sensation has the mhl connection not a seperate hdmi and i hear it doesnt come with the cable. and they are hard or imposible to find.
also the mhl standard does allow charging but no hardware out at this time knows that standard so no charging while using hdmi out.
It did take 3 tries but i think i have a good g2x finallly it was dated april 30th for anyone that cares
So i would wait and see whats said once they come out.
Im sure it will be a fine phone but if you are into modding id wait and check out that bootloader first.
Sense ui eats so much ram!
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No way would I touch a sensation after I researched it for my buyers remorse period when I bought the G2x. Glad I made the right choice in choosing a phone. I never had a problem with any of my G2x phones. I traded the first one because of the backlight but never had any reboots or issues. The second one is near flawless.
The Sensation looks like a sweet phone and all but it is just to much of a step back in too many departments coming from the G2x.
Less powerful CPU/GPU
1Gb of Storage vs 8Gb
Lower Front Cam Res
MHL HDMI Out - Power
Encrypted Bootloader (which may or may not be unlocked) (HTC said "future phones would be unlocked")
Ram Killer aka Sense
Sure you can opt to run Launcher Pro and not use Sense... but that doesn't mean that Sense just vanishes. All those graphic files have to be stored somewhere. I cooked many Sense roms to know the difference in weight between a Sense and Non-Sense rom.

MyTouch 4G Slide

Anyone considering this phone? The Nexus S is my first Android phone which I purchased in December of 2010 and to be honest its been average. Browser and keyboard lag is tough to deal with. When the phone works it's great though.
My biggest issue is typing. Coming from blackberry I just can't type efficiently on this thing and I think the Qwerty on the my touch 4g slide might help. Just wanted some opinions from people who have used multiple android devices. Thanks.
NAZology said:
Anyone considering this phone? The Nexus S is my first Android phone which I purchased in December of 2010 and to be honest its been average. Browser and keyboard lag is tough to deal with. When the phone works it's great though.
My biggest issue is typing. Coming from blackberry I just can't type efficiently on this thing and I think the Qwerty on the my touch 4g slide might help. Just wanted some opinions from people who have used multiple android devices. Thanks.
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its going to be a very nice phone. I think if you are a keyboard type person there wont be a better option. Itll run like a beast too.
I dont think I can go back to a keyboard. I blame the nexus s. Swype saves lives
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charlieb620 said:
I dont think I can go back to a keyboard. I blame the nexus s. Swype saves lives
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I dont know why I still cant get the hang of swype.
as well Ill be getting this phone for my GF, she refuses to not have a keyboard. if I was to go back to t-mobile myself Id be gettign this phone as well
I am on T-Mobile and have very good service and want the slide but due to.the att I am not getting it my dad is.letting.me switch to.Sprint,as soon as the new.nexus comes.out I'm switching
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Drzfr3shboialex said:
I am on T-Mobile and have very good service and want the slide but due to.the att I am not getting it my dad is.letting.me switch to.Sprint,as soon as the new.nexus comes.out I'm switching
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what.are.you.talking.like.this.for.
Only bad thing about getting the mytouch 4g sslide is that it won't get the newest updates like nexus line...I agree tthough about android keyboard ... nexus s was my first android phone and only thing I don't like is the browser and keyboard ..I came from an iPhone so I was used to on-screen keyboard
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what.are.you.talking.like.this.for.
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I imagine they're using the gingerbread keyboard or something. I have a tendancy to hit the period rather than space a lot on the gingerbread keyboard
acesofbelkan said:
I imagine they're using the gingerbread keyboard or something. I have a tendancy to hit the period rather than space a lot on the gingerbread keyboard
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Yeah lol its annoying.
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Just got this phone, and happy to say it ships S-OFF. Rom is dated Jun 27, so they didn't have much time to flash em and box em up.
How did you get one!?!?!?!?!!?!!
ScottC said:
Just got this phone, and happy to say it ships S-OFF. Rom is dated Jun 27, so they didn't have much time to flash em and box em up.
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enoch861 said:
How did you get one!?!?!?!?!!?!!
ScottC said:
Just got this phone, and happy to say it ships S-OFF.
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More to the point: Is this a retail phone, just like everyone gets? Does S-OFF mean that we'll be able to root and flash it at launch? I keep trying to find confirmation that the bootloader will be unlocked (or not) at launch, but this is the closest I've found, so far. Is there any official word from HTC or T-Mobile somewhere?
Upgraded
I've had the 3g sllide for some time now and i like it it's a decent phone but still, newer, faster, more hardware cap. is simply better... point blank period. I'm excited for the upgrade since i really dont want to leave the mytouch family and it's a must that i have keyboard. But the specs are looking good!, and since the glacier has achieved S-off i fairly certain that this will achieve perma-root about 3 hrs after official release (chuckles to self) if not sooner. I'm excited for what this forum will produce along with my very own venture into ginger bread app development
GET EXCITED
p.s
g+ damn u lol
ScottC said:
Just got this phone, and happy to say it ships S-OFF. Rom is dated Jun 27, so they didn't have much time to flash em and box em up.
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This was the one thing holding me back from placing a preorder... but now that I know HTC lived up to their word I'm ordering one now! Thanks!
Retail demo unit ships with S-on
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This phone looks pretty sweet. I had the MyTouch 3G Slide and the MyTouch 4G. Both were great phones. This phone is pretty much a MyTouch 4G with the internal components of a Sensation and the keyboard of a 3G Slide. I prefer the screen and sleekness of the Sensation but if you need a keyboard I'd be all over it.
I suspect this phone will be S-OFFed once AlphaRev finishes the Sensation/Evo3D tool. Otherwise you're waiting till at least September for the official unlock.
It's shipped S-ON sadly , that mean's we can't flash custom roms correct ?
joeyklatzko said:
This phone looks pretty sweet. I had the MyTouch 3G Slide and the MyTouch 4G. Both were great phones. This phone is pretty much a MyTouch 4G with the internal components of a Sensation and the keyboard of a 3G Slide. I prefer the screen and sleekness of the Sensation but if you need a keyboard I'd be all over it.
I suspect this phone will be S-OFFed once AlphaRev finishes the Sensation/Evo3D tool. Otherwise you're waiting till at least September for the official unlock.
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It's shipped S-ON sadly , that mean's we can't flash custom roms correct ?
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Correct. Hopefully not for long!
I just received my Khaki today. I pre-ordered on the 19th.
Pretty amazing device in my book. It isn't perfect but, coming from a 3G Slide it's a monster of a phone.
The Good:
Far and away better keyboard. It has a chiclet like feel to it and is much easier and faster to type on than the 3G Slide with plenty of feedback.
The screen is very pretty, easy to read, and I have no problem with the slightly lower resolution as it does not hinder the phone in any way. Very easy to type on the screen too. I was pretty taken back at how incredibly accurate the sensitivity was compared to the 3GS
Nice camera, it isn't an N8 nor will it replace my T3i but, it does offer partial manual controls and you can adjust the exposure +-2 stops for camera and video. Hopefully an update or hack will let you control shutter speed in the future. FYI, ISO is from 100 to 800. Images look a little grainy to me but, I'm coming from a T3i for comparison which isn't very fair.
FM radio is a nice touch and it works just fine.
Call/Voice quality is very good. It sounds better than the 3GS as a whole. It is louder and clearer with less echo and background noise. It does sound a little harsh at high volume but, still better than the 3GS. Let's just say it isn't a Glimmer but, that phone sounds better than any land-line I've heard so again not a fair comparison. However, I was complimented on how much clearer my voice was on the other end of the line and I could hear the other person a lot better than before.
Reception seems/felt a little better than the 3G Slide. Not a great deal better but, I was getting 2 bars of 3G (which oddly shows up as 4G) in a location where I normally get 1 bar. Also, I didn't have to manually set the phone to WCDMA for it to pick it up.
HTC Flashlight app is in here and it uses both LED's
Wifi Hotspot widget is in here too.
Trackpad button thing is so much nicer than the 3GS and it has this neat illumination thing that goes on when it's charging. It isn't bright though, you almost need to be at an angle to see it, it's very subtle but the coolest thing ever.
genius button still says "please wait" but, it's infinitely faster than the 3GS. LOL. if it wasn't I'd probably rip someones head off.
Grip of the phone is excellent, atleast with the Khaki. It feels sooooo good in your hand and isn't going to slip and fall near as many times as the 3GS or many other phones I've owned before. It has a good weight to it and is much lighter by itself than my 3GS with a case.
Feels like a sturdy phone and does have some good construction around the frame for protection. There is also metal around the lens itself as there should be.
What's this for?
The Not So Good:
Well, I'm worried about scratching the camera lens. I don't know that I ever will and I'm assuming it's made of good glass but it does protrude a bit on the back. There is metal all around it for protection but all it would take is that one certain drop to smash it.
The camera could be better. I mean it does pretty well but, images are just a little grainy to me and I would like to see full manual controls or at least shutter speed control. I don't think there is any real zoom, just digital and I have no idea who makes the lens.
Video recording could be better as well. There is some rolling shutter but, even the DSLR's have that. To me it didn't look like the camera was shooting at 24fps, it didn't look as low as 15 but it didn't look like 24 or 30 either. I could be mistaken about the whole thing though as it could just be that when you record you are only seeing 15 fps but, when you playback you see the full frame rate. I really need more time to play with the phone to give a definite opinion/verdict here. All that being said there is a lot of potential here with the software. I also wonder if using a class 6 or higher memory card will help as well.
*Did a few tests and dropped in a class 6 card. I don't know that it made any difference but I had no problem recording in 1080p and it looked fine to me so I'm thinking it's just that when you are recording the visual feedback you get is only like 15fps or something but when you play back it's the full 24-30 or whatever.*
Although the screen size is 3.7 inches vs the 3GS' 3.4 they are both the same width. So I feel a little fooled about the size of the screen, however it is a good bit taller and the higher resolution and cleaner looking image quality, partially make up for it. I don't feel like "man, this screen is too small" I feel more like "well, it would be nice if it really were a tad wider but, it looks so nice and is a lot taller so I can't really complain"
Bloatware/Bloat. Not really a fault of the hardware but, I do hope HTC slims down sense footprint, and I could do without some of the T-mobile apps that no one will ever use.
Lag. There is some but, I hardly notice it enough to care and I'm sure that will be fixed once we get an update/hack/rom or two.
Final Thoughts
I'm keeping this baby. There is no way I'm sending this back unless there is some kind of major hardware failure or something. There just isn't anything else at T-Mobile that covers all the things "I want" in a cell phone.
icoman said:
I just received my Khaki today. I pre-ordered on the 19th.
Pretty amazing device in my book. It isn't perfect but, coming from a 3G Slide it's a monster of a phone.
The Good:
Far and away better keyboard. It has a chiclet like feel to it and is much easier and faster to type on than the 3G Slide with plenty of feedback.
The screen is very pretty, easy to read, and I have no problem with the slightly lower resolution as it does not hinder the phone in any way. Very easy to type on the screen too. I was pretty taken back at how incredibly accurate the sensitivity was compared to the 3GS
Nice camera, it isn't an N8 nor will it replace my T3i but, it does offer partial manual controls and you can adjust the exposure +-2 stops for camera and video. Hopefully an update or hack will let you control shutter speed in the future. FYI, ISO is from 100 to 800. Images look a little grainy to me but, I'm coming from a T3i for comparison which isn't very fair.
FM radio is a nice touch and it works just fine.
Call/Voice quality is very good. It sounds better than the 3GS as a whole. It is louder and clearer with less echo and background noise. It does sound a little harsh at high volume but, still better than the 3GS. Let's just say it isn't a Glimmer but, that phone sounds better than any land-line I've heard so again not a fair comparison. However, I was complimented on how much clearer my voice was on the other end of the line and I could hear the other person a lot better than before.
Reception seems/felt a little better than the 3G Slide. Not a great deal better but, I was getting 2 bars of 3G (which oddly shows up as 4G) in a location where I normally get 1 bar. Also, I didn't have to manually set the phone to WCDMA for it to pick it up.
HTC Flashlight app is in here and it uses both LED's
Wifi Hotspot widget is in here too.
Trackpad button thing is so much nicer than the 3GS and it has this neat illumination thing that goes on when it's charging. It isn't bright though, you almost need to be at an angle to see it, it's very subtle but the coolest thing ever.
genius button still says "please wait" but, it's infinitely faster than the 3GS. LOL. if it wasn't I'd probably rip someones head off.
Grip of the phone is excellent, atleast with the Khaki. It feels sooooo good in your hand and isn't going to slip and fall near as many times as the 3GS or many other phones I've owned before. It has a good weight to it and is much lighter by itself than my 3GS with a case.
Feels like a sturdy phone and does have some good construction around the frame for protection. There is also metal around the lens itself as there should be.
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The Not So Good:
Well, I'm worried about scratching the camera lens. I don't know that I ever will and I'm assuming it's made of good glass but it does protrude a bit on the back. There is metal all around it for protection but all it would take is that one certain drop to smash it.
The camera could be better. I mean it does pretty well but, images are just a little grainy to me and I would like to see full manual controls or at least shutter speed control. I don't think there is any real zoom, just digital and I have no idea who makes the lens.
Video recording could be better as well. There is some rolling shutter but, even the DSLR's have that. To me it didn't look like the camera was shooting at 24fps, it didn't look as low as 15 but it didn't look like 24 or 30 either. I could be mistaken about the whole thing though as it could just be that when you record you are only seeing 15 fps but, when you playback you see the full frame rate. I really need more time to play with the phone to give a definite opinion/verdict here. All that being said there is a lot of potential here with the software. I also wonder if using a class 6 or higher memory card will help as well.
*Did a few tests and dropped in a class 6 card. I don't know that it made any difference but I had no problem recording in 1080p and it looked fine to me so I'm thinking it's just that when you are recording the visual feedback you get is only like 15fps or something but when you play back it's the full 24-30 or whatever.*
Although the screen size is 3.7 inches vs the 3GS' 3.4 they are both the same width. So I feel a little fooled about the size of the screen, however it is a good bit taller and the higher resolution and cleaner looking image quality, partially make up for it. I don't feel like "man, this screen is too small" I feel more like "well, it would be nice if it really were a tad wider but, it looks so nice and is a lot taller so I can't really complain"
Bloatware/Bloat. Not really a fault of the hardware but, I do hope HTC slims down sense footprint, and I could do without some of the T-mobile apps that no one will ever use.
Lag. There is some but, I hardly notice it enough to care and I'm sure that will be fixed once we get an update/hack/rom or two.
Final Thoughts
I'm keeping this baby. There is no way I'm sending this back unless there is some kind of major hardware failure or something. There just isn't anything else at T-Mobile that covers all the things "I want" in a cell phone.
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Call me crazy but I'm selling my TB and going back to the Droid X.

What I will miss...
- 4G speeds
- Snappier processor
- More vibrant screen
What I won't miss...
- Horrible battery life
- Long GPS lock time
- Random reboots (even with the newest update)
- Very low speaker volume
- Constant issue of 4G dropping in and out
- Shoddy build quality
I already have it up on Craigslist for $350 and someone is meeting me tonight. I might jump to the DInc2 but I am thinking of just waiting to see what happens with the SGS2. For now, the Droid X is still a great device.
not that you should HAVE to but root would solve most of your problems and youd probably be happy. but to each his own.
Yeah, horrible battery life...
http://i.imgur.com/72hJP.jpg
dbisch said:
What I will miss...
- 4G speeds
- Snappier processor
- More vibrant screen
What I won't miss...
- Horrible battery life
- Long GPS lock time
- Random reboots (even with the newest update)
- Very low speaker volume
- Constant issue of 4G dropping in and out
- Shoddy build quality
I already have it up on Craigslist for $350 and someone is meeting me tonight. I might jump to the DInc2 but I am thinking of just waiting to see what happens with the SGS2. For now, the Droid X is still a great device.
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I'd have to say you have a bad unit. Speaker volume, gps and battery life are pretty good on my end... And build quality? I'd say it's great... Droid X is nice, but I wouldn't go back.
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Yeah, horrible battery life...
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and which extended battery is that?
to the OP, so basically, you are going back to a phone with similar specs and no 4g??? To each their own.
what i never ever had any reboots and this phone is so ****in loud i have to lower the volume
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not that you should HAVE to but root would solve most of your problems and youd probably be happy. but to each his own.
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I rooted it the day I bought it. I've had it since February. I tried Das BAMF and CM7 with multiple radios but nothing solved the issues I've been having with it. I don't think it's a bad device at all. Maybe I got a lemon, I dunno. It just seems that the phone should have been in development a little longer to work out the kinks.
If you guys are happy with it then more power to you. The Droid X does everything I need, albeit a little slower.
Crazy .
dbisch said:
What I will miss...
- 4G speeds
- Snappier processor
- More vibrant screen
What I won't miss...
- Horrible battery life
- Long GPS lock time
- Random reboots (even with the newest update)
- Very low speaker volume
- Constant issue of 4G dropping in and out
- Shoddy build quality
I already have it up on Craigslist for $350 and someone is meeting me tonight. I might jump to the DInc2 but I am thinking of just waiting to see what happens with the SGS2. For now, the Droid X is still a great device.
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You're crazy. ;-)
Yeah battery sucks. Buy a spare or the extended.
4G LTE rocks. Nothing compares... IRS like being on WiFi everywhere you go.
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and which extended battery is that?
to the OP, so basically, you are going back to a more stable phone with similar specs and no 4g??? To each their own.
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I don't mind not having 4G. The only time it comes in handy for me is when browsing the internet or watching YouTube videos. I don't mind waiting a few extra minutes to download an app and whatnot.
i find the bad build quality remark entertaining. The TBolt build quality is quite good actually compared to the Droid X. The actual keys on the droid x seem cheap and it's so plastic feeling. But that's my opinion and to each his own.
Not really sure what you were expecting with this thread? For us to cry/be upset and try to save you? Or for us to realize how correct you are and jump ship as well...REVOLT?!?!
distortedloop said:
You're crazy. ;-)
Yeah battery sucks. Buy a spare or the extended.
4G LTE rocks. Nothing compares... IRS like being on WiFi everywhere you go.
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I was waiting for someone to respond with that.
I do have the extended battery. It's nice having the extra juice but the added weight and bulk is ridiculous, IMO.
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i find the bad build quality remark entertaining. The TBolt build quality is quite good actually compared to the Droid X. The actual keys on the droid x seem cheap and it's so plastic feeling. But that's my opinion and to each his own.
Not really sure what you were expecting with this thread? For us to cry/be upset and try to save you? Or for us to realize how correct you are and jump ship as well...REVOLT?!?!
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The TB's build quality is not horrible and is leagues better than the majority of HTC devices but it still doesn't compare to the Droid X. I'll admit that I will miss the capacative buttons. I don't care for the plastic buttons on the Droid X either. Despite what people say, the Droid X's glass is better than the TB's. The touch screen is also much more sensative.
I didn't expect anything from making this thread. I just thought I'd share my opinion on the device and why I'm selling it.
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The TB's build quality is not horrible and is leagues better than the majority of HTC devices but it still doesn't compare to the Droid X. I'll admit that I will miss the capacative buttons. I don't care for the plastic buttons on the Droid X either. Despite what people say, the Droid X's glass is better than the TB's. The touch screen is also much more sensative.
I didn't expect anything from making this thread. I just thought I'd share my opinion on the device and why I'm selling it.
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Technology usually moves forward, the droidx is a step back. Not trying to be negative but you should look at a new model like the inc2.
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lrs421 said:
Technology usually moves forward, the droidx is a step back. Not trying to be negative but you should look at a new model like the inc2.
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Yup, I have my eyes on the DInc2. The dev support is crazy for that thing.
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Yup, I have my eyes on the DInc2. The dev support is crazy for that thing.
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Yeah, Attn1 has one, that phone is in good hands.
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You should look into the Charge... Spending money on anything other than a 4G device is dumb in my opinion.... But thats just me.
I'll never go back to 3G... I'm spoiled.
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Yeah, horrible battery life...
http://i.imgur.com/72hJP.jpg
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Yeah I can get that much too if I never touch my phone like you. Look how high your cell standby and phone idle are. Mine are never more than 2% because I actually use my Thunderbolt...and your screen is 40%...almost never on! Try using your phone and then get back to us about battery life.
Mustang302LX said:
i find the bad build quality remark entertaining. The TBolt build quality is quite good actually compared to the Droid X. The actual keys on the droid x seem cheap and it's so plastic feeling. But that's my opinion and to each his own.
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No way does the thunderbolts build quality come close to the X. Even though it weighs twice as much it feels cheap and like plastic (mainly because a large part of its surface area is plastic) the X is very light, yet it feels like a tank. The X never creaked like this phone, the finish was much better and durable. I do have to agree that I prefer the captive buttons over Tue tactile buttons but they didn't feel cheap.

Why do you love your HTC One S? Positive Vibes only...

Just a quick thread. What made you buy this phone and continously use it as your daily driver? This thread can really change the minds of individuals that are on the fence of either purchasing this phone or keeping, due to all these other options available( including myself ).
No bashing in this thread please.
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You started the thread but didn't give your input? ugh accidentally hit submit... Anyway I like this phone for the speed and smoothness increase over the amaze. Love the amaze, probably still more than the one s. But this thing is just fast. I don't mind the build quality. I prefer the bigger and heavier feel of the amaze but this is still good. If you like a slim unibody that still feels well built this is the way to go. I also like the battery life on this thing. Ridiculously outlasts my amaze, using stock kernal on energy rom. It's just awesome. Also I haven't had any random reboots or any real complications minus a bad day where I was missing several texts.
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Great body (physical appearance) and nice and smooth Sense experience. Build quality has been pretty good. Very slim and elegant with the nice metal (I have the blue one). Fits AMAZING in the pocket. Perfect size in hand and weight as well.
This phone is fast. Battery is good. I can actually use the Car app without plugging it into a charger most of the time. I don't worry about leaving bluetooth, gps or wifi on that much. The battery has been good to me. The phone is sexy as hell. It's also pretty deceiving. Even though it's 4.3 inches, when held in my hand it actually feels smaller than it really is.. like a 4 incher. I gotta hold it next to another 4.3 inch device just to remind myself its that size.
The only thing.. I have to use a case. I currently use the d30 case. This phone is just too damn skinny and small to get a good grip of.
Thin, sexy, light, screen looks great with its not right in front of my face, great battery life, super fluid with trickdroid, etc havent been happy with a phone for a while, while im very nitpicky there isnt much about this phone i dont like which is surprising. Sense 4.1 meets all my needs with functionality, fluidness, and eye candy.
after having the amaze as my second before last phone this phone feels tiny and suuuper light. its only a little bit bigger than my n9 i had which had a 3.9 inch screen.
I probably wont be upgrading for a long while.
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This phone is fast. Battery is good. I can actually use the Car app without plugging it into a charger most of the time. I don't worry about leaving bluetooth, gps or wifi on that much. The battery has been good to me. The phone is sexy as hell. It's also pretty deceiving. Even though it's 4.3 inches, when held in my hand it actually feels smaller than it really is.. like a 4 incher. I gotta hold it next to another 4.3 inch device just to remind myself its that size.
The only thing.. I have to use a case. I currently use the d30 case. This phone is just too damn skinny and small to get a good grip of.
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Yeah I thought I said enough bad but I would add I wish the back of the phone was rubberized or something for grip. I have the d30 case and can't stand having it on this phone. Although I do get scared I'm going to drop it.
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The first android phone I have had that I don't feel the need to root. Everything just works.
Great looking phone with a state of the art 28nm dual core processor.
Everything about it is nice if there's one thing to complain about is the LED light eeh not a big deal, other then that its buttery smooth "cough cm10 cough"
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ValliJoe said:
Everything about it is nice if there's one thing to complain about is the LED light eeh not a big deal, other then that its buttery smooth "cough cm10 cough"
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I actually like the notification light, its distinct, its not annoying like on some older HTC phones.
I was a flashaholic with my vibrant. And the only reason why I even rooted it was to keep up. After having this phone not once have I thought about root. S4 chip and ice cream makes this phone a beast. I'm totally happy. And design is just an added perk.
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The looks and the quality feel of it. No other phone can compete with it! The camera and the soundquality are just awesome.
- don't feel the need to root at all
- sense V4, gallery, calendar, camera UI and features can't be beat
- aluminium uni-body with MAO
- design/looks and how slim it is
- great SAMOLED screen, which is the best for calibration/colours (compared to other AMOLED based screens)
- amazing battery life, only beaten by RAZR MAXX, iphone 5, note II and the XL
- superb camera for photo quality
- amazing hardware, best CPU there is (s4), beats exynos quad in the GS 3 and the tegra 3 quad in the X for performance per core, power efficiency and heat and the GPU is great as well, can hold its own against the GS 3 GPU and even out performs it in quite a few tests, even the more stressful/demanding ones
- extremely stable, have only restarted my S like 10-15 times (if even that) since April, only had 2 freezes where the mobile restarted automatically but this seems to have been fixed ever since the first update
- audio is superb, only matched by the GS 3
- Great form factor
- Does not slow down
- Nice color choice (Grey and blue)
- Nice screen, colors are very vibrant and blacks are very black
- Exceptional battery life
I love this PHONE!!! longtime android user here. I started my andro days with the launch of the G1 and stuck with through the rise and fall of many players in the field. When I finally did upgrade it I stayed wittth Tmobile and went wwith the G2X. I was in love. So powerful, so fas,,, didnt understand why so many griped about it. I had my G2x for a year and a half and was still ging strong when it was stolen from my locker at the gym one night. What a sad state of affairs. I was stuck with a broken iphone 2g for about 2 weeks until Tmobile ran their special on the One S for $0 down with a $50 rebate here in the US. and oh by the way, the lady tells me, have fun with this, we just brought back unlimitted 4G last night, would you like to add it to your plan? Helll to the YEAH!!
The HTC One S is blistering fast. Down speed is ridiculous. such a sleek form factor and amaing screeeen. instantly became the future upgrade choice of many of my friends. Worried about Netflix without wifi? yeah no problem, we have unlimited 4g whats up? Worried about no sd card? Yeah uhmm did i mention unlimited 4G? I got my hands on 50GB of free storage from BOX back when i had the LG G2X. dontt know if you guys know about the app cloudaround, but it is a cloud player that will let you sync with various cloud storageee boxes. anddddd you can upload from your phone. Insane up speeds with this unit, I am PC free, so no root, but mass ammounts of music and movies on my online storage, and no need for PC to upload(damn you google music). If ANYONE is on the fence about this phone I would have to say take that leap of faith, yo will not be disappointed. Aazing, beautiful, blinding speed, wonderful device.
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got this phone as a warranty replacement because they didnt have anymore S2's.... WINNING LOL
The screen is nice, size is nice, great build quality.
Had to root it tho, missing way too much without it.
On cm10 now and even tho i miss the sense camera, which is about the only thing i miss from sense, its running great.
this phone is the total package.
The amoled screen is awesome especially with sense .
The camera is top notch and the weight is great even though I prefer heavier devices normaly , even though its light its feels solid ,
Only bad things are s off and notification light
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For all you people saying you feel no need to root; I felt the same way.. until I got curious and flashed trickdroid, you should really try it, you can still have the stock experience just much much more fluid feels just like jellybean
I'll wait for the official jelly bean update, thanks though
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I'll root when I get S-OFF, don't want to render my warranty as void.
The phone has the best design I've seen in a long while.
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Post Your First Impressions

Always curious to hear.
Got mine yesterday.
It's all screen! Lighter, thinner than GS3. Feels more like a small, thin Note 2 which is a good thing to me. Not so bubbly as GS3. Screen is amazing. Bloatware is out of control. The back looks kind of like snake skin.
The speaker is much louder than GS3. So far, I love it. Haven't even tried the features yet!
Anyone else?:good:
Got mine yesterday as well. Extremely nice screen! Gorilla Glass 3 resists finger prints better then advertised in my opinion and the overall 5 inch display is incredible. Super zippy but yes, comes loaded with Samsung and AT&T Apps but this shouldn't be too surprising as Samsung did advertise there software quite a bit. Only natural they put there mark in it. On the flip side all this is easily fixable once a root is out but EVEN with this stuff the phone manages to handle it's memory well and work fast.
Overall I am glad I waited and after a couple of weeks I think there people freaking out are really gonna kick themselves for getting all worked up over stupid problems that are easily dealt with.
Got mine yesterday. see my bloatware thread.
Hardware is amazing and top notch. Software is so bloated and bogged down that, when combined with locked bootloader, I will strongly consider returning.
People might flame me for this, but even with the bloat disabled and using Nova launcher, my gs3 running slim bean is faster on everyday tasks.
Just hit 5% battery life and the phone just automatically reduced brightness to a point that I can barely use it, and phone won't let me crank it back up. Just way too much garbage.
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WMguy said:
Always curious to hear.
Got mine yesterday.
It's all screen! Lighter, thinner than GS3. Feels more like a small, thin Note 2 which is a good thing to me. Not so bubbly as GS3. Screen is amazing. Bloatware is out of control. The back looks kind of like snake skin.
The speaker is much louder than GS3. So far, I love it. Haven't even tried the features yet!
Anyone else?:good:
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screen is mind blowingly good, i had a HTC one for 3 days before i got my GS4 and honestly the one was closer to the s4 then i thought it would be. the one had less bloat and it stutter a bit less (after freezing bloat my phone has gotten ALOT better). camera is awesome love the quality and wow this phone is so small for 5 inches. coming from a note 2 and a temporary lumia 920 this thing feels tiny and light, honestly one of the major selling points of the gs4 is it's bezel less design (imo). if bootloader stays locked for long i am selling it or trading it for the one or octa core version.... its a shame that the stock rom is so bloated, i traded the one back because i thought sammy software would blow htc out the water but it didn't . One more thing, the GS4 tv remote works 10000 times better then the htc one. htc could not sync to my sound bar or u-verse box no matter what i tried, the GS4 had that working in seconds. i have 3 remotes just for my bed room and the fact that i do not need them is a huge plus.
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Got mine yesterday. see my bloatware thread.
Hardware is amazing and top notch. Software is so bloated and bogged down that, when combined with locked bootloader, I will strongly consider returning.
People might flame me for this, but even with the bloat disabled and using Nova launcher, my gs3 running slim bean is faster on everyday tasks.
Just hit 5% battery life and the phone just automatically reduced brightness to a point that I can barely use it, and phone won't let me crank it back up. Just way too much garbage.
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You might need to play with the settings some more for the auto brightness settings. As for the lag, AOSP ROMs have always been faster (in my experience) to Touchwiz Roms. I'm going to put up with the stock Touchwiz for as long as I can before trying out the first releases of AOSP on the GS4. I'm hopeful we will see some crazy development action if it's true the Quad-core international version ROM's can easily be ported to the US versions and vice versa. The international GS3 had so much to chose from. I was perfectly happy on my GS3 using AOKP, but I'm sure I'm not going to regret moving over to the GS4. I had the same debate when switching from the GS2 to the GS3.
I dont get mine till tonight, but I found one in a best buy mobile store and was surpised at how much stuttering I saw just going through the homescreens.
Im hoping that when I disable all the eye tracking stuff that will all run better.
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the GS4 tv remote works 10000 times better
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I'm sold
I tried the htc one remote control feature and liked it. Only thing I really liked, glad to hear the gs4 one is better. Definitely comes in handy.
How is the camera? Especially the dual shot feature(I feel I'll be using this alot )? And the other camera features?
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I'm sold
I tried the htc one remote control feature and liked it. Only thing I really liked, glad to hear the gs4 one is better. Definitely comes in handy.
How is the camera? Especially the dual shot feature(I feel I'll be using this alot )? And the other camera features?
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just got the phone yesterday but i have not played with it a lot, studying for finals . but i did dual shot and it is cool and i could see it being fun to use. have not tried all the shooting modes but i am flying to NYC tonight and i plan on taking a bunch of photos and playing with the camera in depth over the weekend
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I'm sold
I tried the htc one remote control feature and liked it. Only thing I really liked, glad to hear the gs4 one is better. Definitely comes in handy.
How is the camera? Especially the dual shot feature(I feel I'll be using this alot )? And the other camera features?
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Here are some photos I snapped this morning in challenging conditions: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/oll6vneulv13mz6/TZcApg0pCD
Overall, better than Galaxy S3 by a decent margin. But I used to have an iPhone 5, and my initial impression is that the IP5 takes better pictures than the GS4, at least in these conditions. I feel like it was extremely rare that I got a bad photo out of that phone, even in a relatively dark room as in these pictures, but as you can see in my link, several of these are pretty bad.
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just got the phone yesterday but i have not played with it a lot, studying for finals . but i did dual shot and it is cool and i could see it being fun to use. have not tried all the shooting modes but i am flying to NYC tonight and i plan on taking a bunch of photos and playing with the camera in depth over the weekend
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Well good luck with that, and post some of the pics when you can
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Here are some photos I snapped this morning in challenging conditions: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/oll6vneulv13mz6/TZcApg0pCD
Overall, better than Galaxy S3 by a decent margin. But I used to have an iPhone 5, and my initial impression is that the IP5 takes better pictures than the GS4, at least in these conditions. I feel like it was extremely rare that I got a bad photo out of that phone, even in a relatively dark room as in these pictures, but as you can see in my link, several of these are pretty bad.
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Your pics look pretty good to me. I'm viewing them on my 24" monitor at work though. Cute dog btw. I'm sure compared to the ip5 the gs4 will have better detail due to the higher resolution in normal conditions? Is there an exposure setting? Or other settings to help low light conditions?
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Well good luck with that, and post some of the pics when you can
Your pics look pretty good to me. I'm viewing them on my 24" monitor at work though. Cute dog btw. I'm sure compared to the ip5 the gs4 will have better detail due to the higher resolution in normal conditions? Is there an exposure setting? Or other settings to help low light conditions?
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Now that I've taken a second look, I guess you are right that they are pretty decent, except for one of them. I'm so used to looking at things on a small screen that when I blow it up on a big monitor I expect it to be just as sharp on a big screen as it was on a small screen!
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Now that I've taken a second look, I guess you are right that they are pretty decent, except for one of them. I'm so used to looking at things on a small screen that when I blow it up on a big monitor I expect it to be just as sharp on a big screen as it was on a small screen!
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i agree. those pics you posted dont look that bad. that's the problem with the htc one camera (i own one) when you increase the resolution of the pic, the quality suffers due to only being 4mp. the gs4 is 13mp so it wont be as bad when you increase it's resolution (although there will still be some kind of quality drop off).
Just frickin' awesome. After having the Note this "cheap" plastic feels luxurious
Got mine today. Coming from an LG Optimus G. Here's a few thoughts.
1. I really like the keyboard. But since I've been a swiftkey user for a long time that's no surprise.
2. Screen is very good. Wish it was a little brighter when using auto brightness, but it is very good nonetheless.
3. Maybe I'm just not that picky, but I don't notice any lag. At least not anything bad enough to complain about.
4. Seems to charge pretty fast with the included 2 amp charger.
5. It might be plastic, but I can tell you I like the light weight and the feel in my hand better than my LG Optimus G...
6. I thought the 'swapped' menu and back buttons would bother me. But to be honest, I kind of like it better...
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I have a few questions,
1. Does the speaker have 'stereo sound' like the HTC one? Can you hear the base? What about hooking up to the headphone? Does it sound better than S3?
2. Anyone here uses Allshare cast? I have a Samsung LED Smart TV that I stream movies directly from my phone to the TV with a touch of a button on the S3. It does have occasional lags, however. Does the S4 do the same?
3. Does the S4 have the same amount of ringtones like the S3?
JasonJoel said:
6. I thought the 'swapped' menu and back buttons would bother me. But to be honest, I kind of like it better...
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I actually really like the button setup. When I got my first smartphone like three years ago, it was a Blackberry, and it had a similar button arrangement. It went [PHONE][MENU][HOME/SELECT][BACK][END CALL]. My current Galaxy S2 is [MENU][HOME][BACK][SEARCH]. So the S4 will be the same as I am used to, and I will appreciate not having to get used to a new setup.
two issues.
1)wifi keeps on disconnecting... very annoying
i have another device on the same wifi, but it's not disconnecting at all.
2) RAM. even if i clear everything, i'm at 1.2GB ish.. i always notice the homescreen widgets refreshing themselves due to low RAM.
anyone else?
everything else is fine.
speedy, beautiful screen, good speaker, very nice camera, etc.
Speaker is very good; coming from S2
Bloat... Blah
Android without root, is like a day without sunshine.
fargonaz said:
Android without root, is like a day without sunshine.
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This is a great comment! I agree 100%.
rsmolen said:
This is a great comment! I agree 100%.
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I honestly dont feel a need to root with the One S4 I can see being pretty much the same. Too me stock is way more boring =/

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