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Can I just do root without flashing customized ROM?

Hi,
I know it sounds weird, but I've noticed that there are numerous uses reported something doesn't work after flashing a ROM. So I was wondering if I can just root my phone without flashing a new ROM. So basically what I asked is to do the root with my current stock ROM.
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happyaray said:
Hi,
I know it sounds weird, but I've noticed that there are numerous uses reported something doesn't work after flashing a ROM. So I was wondering if I can just root my phone without flashing a new ROM. So basically what I asked is to do the root with my current stock ROM.
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Just flash a stock rooted rom.

Yes all you would do is root and it will still be stock. No problems at all. But I would recomend turning off the setting that searches for updates because being rooted and accepting ota updates does some funky things to your phone from what I've heard.
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You don't have to flash a stock rom after rooting. Rooting doesn't do anything to the stock rom on your phone in terms of having to flash something else.
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PhxkinMassacre said:
You don't have to flash a stock rom after rooting. Rooting doesn't do anything to the stock rom on your phone in terms of having to flash something else.
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Technically the rooting process itself flashes a downgraded ROM in order to do the root. It then flashes the stock ROM over that (at least Bubbys tool does, I'm not sure about what the hack kit does, as I haven't used it personally).
So just the act of rooting does indeed flash over whatever is on your phone prior to rooting. There is no root for this phone without flashing taking place.
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Thanks Scott.
So no matter what if I would like to achieve the same thing then I would do flash a stocked ROM.
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happyaray said:
Thanks Scott.
So no matter what if I would like to achieve the same thing then I would do flash a stocked ROM.
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Well at the very least, you want the stock ROM, as the initial ROM that MUST be flashed in order to achieve root is a downgraded ROM in which you will have no sound (it's from the Desire, near-identical phone, but incompatible radios).
This is only temporary, as long as you finish the process.
The thing is, at least with Bubbys simple root method, putting the stock ROM back on is done for you, assuming you fully complete the process.
What you end up with, when it's all said-and-done, is a stock, rooted ROM, at which point you can leave it stock, or proceed to flash one of the many available custom roms.
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My previous phone was an HTC Aria, and it's the only phone I flashed a custom ROM to before getting this Inspire 4G (which I am considering rooting). On the Aria, after flashing a custom ROM to the phone, I had to start over entering all of my account usernames & passwords, installing the apps I wanted, etc. It took a long time to get the phone back to where I wanted it, but it was worth it to get the wi-fi hotspot feature.
If I root my Inspire using Bubby's simple root method, but don't do anything else, will I have to start from scratch again with installing the apps, entering credentials for all of the services I use (basically a fresh out of-the-box experience)?

Don't use bubby's. It hasn't been supported in several months, and it will not work if your phone has GB. The best and only way to root is using the Ace Hack Kit. Just make sure you read and follow the instructions.
BTW: A little search and reading would have given you the answer to your question. Not to be nasty about it, but it makes the Devs life easier and they are the reason this site exists.

andcal13929 said:
My previous phone was an HTC Aria, and it's the only phone I flashed a custom ROM to before getting this Inspire 4G (which I am considering rooting). On the Aria, after flashing a custom ROM to the phone, I had to start over entering all of my account usernames & passwords, installing the apps I wanted, etc. It took a long time to get the phone back to where I wanted it, but it was worth it to get the wi-fi hotspot feature.
If I root my Inspire using Bubby's simple root method, but don't do anything else, will I have to start from scratch again with installing the apps, entering credentials for all of the services I use (basically a fresh out of-the-box experience)?
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Wow, I can't even believe I'm going to say this again to someone, well actually I can but YOU NEED TO READ!!!! Please do your research before asking a question. I'm happy you didn't start a new thread but a little annoyed you dug up a 5 month old thread to ask a question that can be answered by searching!!!First issue, do not use Bubby's, what part of outdated is confusing. Please take a stroll over to the dev section and see the hack kit thread. read that sucker. than take a moment to let it sink in, then read it again to fully understand it. Please do your research so you don't destroy your phone.

Yea thats what my friend did, he rooted but stayed on the stock rom

Stock recovery.

Hi, all.
Want to prepare for ICS update....
It been a long time since I messed with the phone 9 month or so....LOL
Have S-OFF, CWM, rooted, but still on stock ROM, since I use my HD2.
I remember seeing somewhere a thread with instruction on how to switch back to stock recovery.... one of the requirements of flushing ICS OTA.
Now I searched everywhere and can't find it....
Would you be so kind to point me to it?
Thanks in advance!

Get it from any RUU and flash via fastboot
but you'll need an RUU anyway as you need to 100% stock to use the ota
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I'd do a Nandroid Backup of the stock rom. I think this is the easiest way to restore stock rom if you need.

Tester30 said:
Hi, all.
Want to prepare for ICS update....
It been a long time since I messed with the phone 9 month or so....LOL
Have S-OFF, CWM, rooted, but still on stock ROM, since I use my HD2.
I remember seeing somewhere a thread with instruction on how to switch back to stock recovery.... one of the requirements of flushing ICS OTA.
Now I searched everywhere and can't find it....
Would you be so kind to point me to it?
Thanks in advance!
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Shoot throw me in the same boot! I tried reading mikes guide for updating and I think its probably 100x simpler just doing the OTA and calling it a day. I'm not sure how much I'll personally be going back to this phone as I've crossed over to the SGSII now but seeing how HTC is putting out that limiting "one" phone I suspect this will be my last HTC phone for awhile.
I'm not dissing mikes ARHD rom either but I'm looking for the simplest of simplest instructions (other than OTA) like:
1. D/L (only) this one file/ROM and CWM/4EXT and flash.
2. ???
3. Profit.

[Q] MrRobinson root method on a brand new phone?

I have a brand new stock verizon S3 and am wondering if I can use the MrRobinson root method to root for the very first time. I swear someone in one of the forums said they did but it sounds like most people are using those images to just update. I originally tried this 4.1.1/4.1.2 method and it bricked my phone on flashing the VRALEC bootchain step, everything looked good in odin, the phone looked like it tried to restart, then went black and never came back. I got a new phone and am wary of trying the same method again. If that is the method I have to use any thoughts on what could have went wrong?
I appreciate any input.

There should be no problem using the Mr. Robinson file in Odin. I have flashed the bootchain that soft bricked your phone and had no issue. Your following the Odin instructions exactly, right....just checking. Everything needs to be installed using the PDA slot unless it specifically says to put the file somewhere else....I have not run into that yet. You had problems with Odin before so that makes me a little apprehensive advising you to use it again.
The Mr. Robinson 4.1.2 file is not the ota. Use the 4.1.1 ota file so you can grab the 4.1.2 ota. Before installing 4.1.2 ota install ota voodoo rootkeeper....temp unroot, take ota then reroot. Pretty sure that's the only way other than flashing the bootchain that will get you on stock rooted 4.1.2

Ryno77 said:
There should be no problem using the Mr. Robinson file in Odin. I have flashed the bootchain that soft bricked your phone and had no issue. Your following the Odin instructions exactly, right....just checking. Everything needs to be installed using the PDA slot unless it specifically says to put the file somewhere else....I have not run into that yet. You had problems with Odin before so that makes me a little apprehensive advising you to use it again.
The Mr. Robinson 4.1.2 file is not the ota. Use the 4.1.1 ota file so you can grab the 4.1.2 ota. Before installing 4.1.2 ota install ota voodoo rootkeeper....temp unroot, take ota then reroot. Pretty sure that's the only way other than flashing the bootchain that will get you on stock rooted 4.1.2
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I actually had the video demo they have linked open and was watching that then pausing and following the directions and making sure everything I was doing was identical. I really have no idea what happened, I've read over the directions a few times watched the video again and I can't see anything I may have missed. But it hard bricked my phone, I couldn't turn it on or get back into download mode or anything.
If I can just use the MrRobinson method on a brand new unrooted phone I will do that. I think the phone was already on 4.1.2 when I got it, so that won't matter using the 4.1.1 ota file? I've been flashing roms and toying around with my Incredible 2 since the day I got it basically and have never had any problems. Now that I had this issue with the S3 i'm scared to try anything . It seems the S3 has a good community though which is the main reason I went with it over my other options.

I would be scared to use Odin if I had your experience too. I've used Odin several times without any issue but I have not used it since the 4.1.2 update....although I'm sure many have without any problems. Yes, you can flash any OTA via Odin even if your going backwards . I can't say you won't have any issues because I don't think you should have had an issue the first time.......maybe wait to see what others think?

Clyde Tacoma said:
I actually had the video demo they have linked open and was watching that then pausing and following the directions and making sure everything I was doing was identical. I really have no idea what happened, I've read over the directions a few times watched the video again and I can't see anything I may have missed. But it hard bricked my phone, I couldn't turn it on or get back into download mode or anything.
If I can just use the MrRobinson method on a brand new unrooted phone I will do that. I think the phone was already on 4.1.2 when I got it, so that won't matter using the 4.1.1 ota file? I've been flashing roms and toying around with my Incredible 2 since the day I got it basically and have never had any problems. Now that I had this issue with the S3 i'm scared to try anything . It seems the S3 has a good community though which is the main reason I went with it over my other options.
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idk why that happened. My best guess is if the battery was low prior to you using Odin then it may have needed charging. But that VRALEC/Odin method is proven working countless times and those files linked in the OP have been used countless times.
Just know that with mrRobinson's pre-rooted images, you'll still need to unlock your bootloader with say EZ Unlock v1.2 (available on Rootzwiki so google it) before you decide to flash custom roms/kernels.
Ryno77 said:
I would be scared to use Odin if I had your experience too. I've used Odin several times without any issue but I have not used it since the 4.1.2 update....although I'm sure many have without any problems. Yes, you can flash any OTA via Odin even if your going backwards . I can't say you won't have any issues because I don't think you should have had an issue the first time.......maybe wait to see what others think?
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Like I said above, may have been the luck of the draw or it could have needed charging.

Clyde Tacoma said:
I actually had the video demo they have linked open and was watching that then pausing and following the directions and making sure everything I was doing was identical. I really have no idea what happened, I've read over the directions a few times watched the video again and I can't see anything I may have missed. But it hard bricked my phone, I couldn't turn it on or get back into download mode or anything.
If I can just use the MrRobinson method on a brand new unrooted phone I will do that. I think the phone was already on 4.1.2 when I got it, so that won't matter using the 4.1.1 ota file? I've been flashing roms and toying around with my Incredible 2 since the day I got it basically and have never had any problems. Now that I had this issue with the S3 i'm scared to try anything . It seems the S3 has a good community though which is the main reason I went with it over my other options.
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If you want to have a 4.1.2 rooted stock version, you need to download MrRobinson, K3 full wipe image with root (http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390214368362234355), unzip it first, then use Odin to flash this, then install Voodoo OTA root keeper from the market to preserve root, then let OTA update back to 4.1.2, finally use OTA root keeper to restore root. Done, simple and risk free.

You guys rock thank you!

As a followup for anyone that may stumble upon this thread in the future, I used the method provided by buhohitor and it worked like a champ. I flashed the mrRobinson image used ez unlocker to unlock the bootloader then used ez recovery to flash the latest version of TWRP. I'm now running this Paranoid Android 4.2.2 Rom and it is fantastic!

Should I root and unlock

I just got this phone and debating if I should root and unlock this phone. I'm a big fan of CM. I traded a friend for this phone. I used to have a gs5 and touchwiz was driving me crazy and that it could not be unlocked. This phone is way better. I have been rooting and unlocking since the days of the htc eris. I'll never buy another Samsung phone again. Sorry for the dumb post.

So do you have a question? Or what's the point behind the post

Yes, you should root and unlock. I have flashed more than a few roms on this pbone, but I have been on stock rooted for a couple months now. Mostly because it has the least amount of issues and most consistent performance. I got it all tweaked up though. IMO HTC did a great job on the stock ROM but to each there own.
And another big plus is that you can easily unroot and relock your phone back to 100% stock state (thankfully we have all the most recent stock ROM ruu's). So really as long as you know what your doing which it sounds like you do, you can only gain by rooting/s-off

No, wait a few weeks first so you know the phone works. You don't want to be those guys that spam issues in rom threads only to find out it's your phone and not the rom.
A rule of thumb I always follow is make sure it runs properly before you start modding. (Cars, phones, computers, etc.)

the real question is why wouldn't you unlock an S-OFF - full control over YOUR device for only $25 AND you can always go back to S-ON. :good:

I tried to unlock the boot loader through HTC Dev with no luck. My boot loader says ***software status*** Modified
***Locked**
He was running the phone on T-Mobile. I was wondering if he had it flashed to T-Mobile to work. Any Ideas!!

Never mind I just used sunshine apk and worked. Thank god

Bootloader still says modified. Only getting temp root, but s off

Droid0351 said:
Bootloader still says modified. Only getting temp root, but s off
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To get permanent root you will need to install a custom recovery and flash the supersu.zip and that will get you full root. You can then get rid of the temp root by uninstalling the apk

I figured it out. Its been awhile since I rooted and s-off. I already fixed the bootloader saying modified. Had to connect it to htcsync and do a repair. Thanks guys. I'm enjoying cm again.

Need a little guidance

Hey everyone. I was wondering if some here with a HTC One can point me in the right direction. I am looking to finally take the plunge and permanently root, flash a custom recovery, backup my stock, and install a new custom rom on my Verizon M8.
This is my first HTC device playing with, I have always had Motorola stuff and am pretty familiar with the process on those, but this HTC stuff is still a little blurry. S-on/off, CID, MID, RUUs????
I have been reading these forums for quite a bit and still a little unsure about what the steps would have to be. I am currently on the latest stock VZW temp rooted with the new weeksauce basically just to have tethering via a 3rd party app (Wifi tether router). I actually really, really like the stock Sense 6.0 UI and this phone is pretty much perfect all around.
What I want to do is, permanently root, install TWRP as that's what i've used on Moto and my Sammy Tab, backup my stock system so I can go back, and then install a custom ROM. Can TWRP on this do more than one ROM slot and run dual roms? What if everything gets jacked up and I have to go back to complete out of the box stock? How is that done with HTC? I think with Moto it was like an .FXZ file or something like that and you boot the phone into download mode and just flash that file from the computer and you're back to 100% stock. Same with Samsung using ODIN.
I'm also not sure what ROM I want to try, so I am open to suggestions there too. I would like to maybe try a pretty clean Lollipop ROM with good battery life and very stable. Would that be the GPE?
Thanks for reading and for any help.

baune7 said:
Hey everyone. I was wondering if some here with a HTC One can point me in the right direction. I am looking to finally take the plunge and permanently root, flash a custom recovery, backup my stock, and install a new custom rom on my Verizon M8.
This is my first HTC device playing with, I have always had Motorola stuff and am pretty familiar with the process on those, but this HTC stuff is still a little blurry. S-on/off, CID, MID, RUUs????
I have been reading these forums for quite a bit and still a little unsure about what the steps would have to be. I am currently on the latest stock VZW temp rooted with the new weeksauce basically just to have tethering via a 3rd party app (Wifi tether router). I actually really, really like the stock Sense 6.0 UI and this phone is pretty much perfect all around.
What I want to do is, permanently root, install TWRP as that's what i've used on Moto and my Sammy Tab, backup my stock system so I can go back, and then install a custom ROM. Can TWRP on this do more than one ROM slot and run dual roms? What if everything gets jacked up and I have to go back to complete out of the box stock? How is that done with HTC? I think with Moto it was like an .FXZ file or something like that and you boot the phone into download mode and just flash that file from the computer and you're back to 100% stock. Same with Samsung using ODIN.
I'm also not sure what ROM I want to try, so I am open to suggestions there too. I would like to maybe try a pretty clean Lollipop ROM with good battery life and very stable. Would that be the GPE?
Thanks for reading and for any help.
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First you need s-off/unlocked boot loader to perma root..also there is multi ROM support for this device. An if you want to return to pure stock cause something got messed up then you download the ruu an use fast boot via pc to flash your ruu.zip it will wipe your whole phone an return you to out of the box. if your looking for a sense Lollipop from. Santod has a nice ROM an you can also check out the ROM by andybones is also runs very nice an has themes an mod support. If you like GPE then there is one of those also for our device.

Thanks for the info. So in my reading up on doing this, is the "firewater" method of achieving S-off and root no longer working on this phone with 4.4.4? And also, as I understand it, the Sunshine method of achieving the two may or may not work on 4.4.4 either, kind of a 50/50 shot??? So I guess at this time it might just be worth it to wait until either the new sunshine is released or Verizon pushed the 5.0 update out and see what that is like.

baune7 said:
Thanks for the info. So in my reading up on doing this, is the "firewater" method of achieving S-off and root no longer working on this phone with 4.4.4? And also, as I understand it, the Sunshine method of achieving the two may or may not work on 4.4.4 either, kind of a 50/50 shot??? So I guess at this time it might just be worth it to wait until either the new sunshine is released or Verizon pushed the 5.0 update out and see what that is like.
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Firewater is dead....sunshine might work you can download the app for free an run it to see if it will work with your device is free too. Then if you want to run sunshine that's when you pay the 25...so I would advice against taking anymore ota till you r able to s-off.