hi everyone. i just had a question about donations. i was just wondering what is an "acceptable" donation to a developer that either creates or modifies icons/games/kernels etc. for you. i don't want to insult the developer, but at the same time, i'm unemployed and i'm not exactly rollin' in the money either. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated and thanks to all the developers.
I'm sure donations of all sizes are welcomed. Most people don't bother, which is a shame, so even £1 (Sterling) would be a good start.
I generally go with £10 per donation for the software that i use.
Really depends on how much work he put into it for you.
But as those are donations, not payments.
Anything should really be fine.
I would do something between 5-15$ if you dont have alot.
For me the gesture really counts a lot too. That someone was so thankfull for my work, which he got for free, that he felt like donating something .
Makes me feel happy .
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i just broke my wizard and now i am in need of some money..can any of the generous members of this forum donate me some money so taht i can buy a new wizard or any other phone. your help is appreciated.thank you
http://www.geocities.com/nadeemdanish/2.html
go to this page and make a donation
your help is appreciated
How about you get a job and earn it like the rest of us; or provide something worthwhile to the community in the hope that people will reward you?
Begging is just... pathetic...
I have wanted to adress a issue that has increased noticeably since I joined XDA-Dev, im not sure if anyone agree with me at all on this
But more and more of the developers here demands "donations" for their work, and that really sadden me. Because more and more ppl will feel that "hey, this guy and that guy actually makes money on their work, why cant I?" and in the end, this forums users will have to "donate" to everyone, and it will slowly suffocate from greed...
I know many use hours after hours, doing really amazing work creating,fixing modding and w/e. And I fully accept that ppl have a donation button in their signature, and that ppl can donate money as mutch as they want.
But when developers write that if you donate, I will continue my work, or if you donate I will provide you with support, or you can download my work if you pay for it, then xda has decreased to a point where I cant support it.
I joined here because I needed help, and I got it, for free. And I decided I want to contribute too, so I started learning, for free, what I now know. And I try my best to help out.
I have had many ppl telling me that they want to donate money for the work I have done making roms, etc (in herald section)
But I dont want any.
And I will make this promise: Im never gonna have a sig with donations, and I will never accept any form of donations for the work I do here. But I will respect that others have a "donation sig", but I will not accept and use stuff developed here that has a "you must donate me"
What make/made this forum great, is that so many have shared for free, amazing work.
Im not sure what the creators of this forums feel about this, or the current admins/moderators feels about this. But if you guys somewhat agree with me, please do something about it.
Im just a user, with my thoughts and views on things, and I dont know if anyone see it the same way as I do, or if this is actually a issue that should be adressed at all.
But maybe its just me and my thoughts that are wrong
cheers
itje said:
I have wanted to adress a issue that has increased noticeably since I joined XDA-Dev, im not sure if anyone agree with me at all on this
But more and more of the developers here demands "donations" for their work, and that really sadden me. Because more and more ppl will feel that "hey, this guy and that guy actually makes money on their work, why cant I?" and in the end, this forums users will have to "donate" to everyone, and it will slowly suffocate from greed...
I know many use hours after hours, doing really amazing work creating,fixing modding and w/e. And I fully accept that ppl have a donation button in their signature, and that ppl can donate money as mutch as they want.
But when developers write that if you donate, I will continue my work, or if you donate I will provide you with support, or you can download my work if you pay for it, then xda has decreased to a point where I cant support it.
I joined here because I needed help, and I got it, for free. And I decided I want to contribute too, so I started learning, for free, what I now know. And I try my best to help out.
I have had many ppl telling me that they want to donate money for the work I have done making roms, etc (in herald section)
But I dont want any.
And I will make this promise: Im never gonna have a sig with donations, and I will never accept any form of donations for the work I do here. But I will respect that others have a "donation sig", but I will not accept and use stuff developed here that has a "you must donate me"
What make/made this forum great, is that so many have shared for free, amazing work.
Im not sure what the creators of this forums feel about this, or the current admins/moderators feels about this. But if you guys somewhat agree with me, please do something about it.
Im just a user, with my thoughts and views on things, and I dont know if anyone see it the same way as I do, or if this is actually a issue that should be adressed at all.
But maybe its just me and my thoughts that are wrong
cheers
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where does anyone demand donations? devs ask yes, this is true in any dev community, if they say you MUST donate then that is wrong and against forum policy, so show me some examples
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where does anyone demand donations? devs ask yes, this is true in any dev community, if they say you MUST donate then that is wrong and against forum policy, so show me some examples
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Allright. I was hoping that I didnt have to, because I dont wanna make anyone a "example" and I dont want to start a flamewar or a fight on who does it or not.
I think I need to say that the "demand" is often not written as a demand, but its usually adressed with please support me, and I will....insert "service provided" here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336234
Im NOT saying the poster of that thread is "guilty" of anything, and im sure that explanations could be provided and so on, but im adressing something that is increasing, atleast from my point of view. And Im gonna be the first to back down on what I "shed a little light on" if im mistaken in my interpetations.
But I do read alot around on the forum, and I just feel that more and more ppl wants donations for the work they do.
I will quote some general sigs, without saying who have them,and its not copied from anyones sig, but its a general "quote" of many diffrent sigs.
"if you like my work, and want more, donate"
"If you like what I do, buy me a beer"
"support my hard work by donating"
"Accepting any amount in donations"
"Incourage me to continue my work, buy me a beer"
list can go on with diffrent versons.
Im not against a donation system, but I really dont like it when you must donate to download anything, in my interpetation, that is as you say, against xda policy.
Is not developing for free, and so that we all can get more out of our devices encourage enough? If we want to make money on our work, why not start a company and start doing buisness on our own websites, and not use xda-dev to promote work we want to make money on?
sorry if I offend anyone, thats not my intention at all, and as I said, the post i linked to might be a bad example too. And I respect the hard work they do, and actually understand that they wants donations and all. Im really impressed by the work both the owner of the thread I use as example, and others. And that they deserve payment for what they do or not, is not the issue im forwarding here, so please have that in mind when commenting what I try to adress here.
All,
I have just received a question via PM and thought that it may best be answered here in the open forum. Mods, pls move thread if it would best be located in another forum. I have posted the original question and my reply... Any thoughts, extra comments or general discussion would be appreciated... The name of the sender has been removed for their privacy...
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Hey, thanks for the great advice. I want to donate to some of the developers whose ROMS i have used, but i wasn't sure how much to give...i don't want to give too much, but also don't want to offend by giving too little. Also, i am curious at what point do you feel like u should donate...i didn't think just from trying a ROM i should feel obligated to donate, but if i have used it for a month or so or more than yeah, maybe kickin something down is the thing to do.
So, you think better way to get the keyboard problem addressed is post in the thread for the rom you want fixed, as opposed to creating a new thread asking specifically for it. See, i think some devices maybe don't have that problem (it's an ATT PTT thing?), and so some of the chefs and users aren't getting it...i THINK...or else it just surprises me how it doesn't bother more people more...i guesss maybe i actually use my phone to talk on more than some here
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Donations are always a tricky item... I completely understand about the "not enough to much" dilemma... This is how I approach it: You are not purchasing anything, you are donating to a person that shares a common interest as you... To that end, think about a small favor that a friend of yours does for you... What type of thanks would you give that friend...? For my friends, I may buy them a couple beers... I think you see my point... Any donation, is appreciated... I would check on the conversion rate for where the recipient lives, so that they can get a decent donation... I don't think that 5 or 10 of whatever their native currency is, is to much... So, if I wanted to donate approx. 5GBP to someone, it would cost me 10USD... That is enough to buy almost 3 beers in the US, not sure about the UK ratio though... I think you also have a good handle on when you may wish to donate... a month may be a good time to donate to the cook... or however long you take to decide the rom is a keeper...
As for the keyboard fix, the comment should be posted in the thread of the rom where the problem exists... Some roms do not have the problem, it really depends on which base rom the cook used and whether or not they are even aware of the problem to begin with... There are many roms that have the fix already taken care of, and many that do not... It's really a hit or miss, when you find one that you like, you can always ask the cook to repost it with the correct dll cooked in, if you really like the rom, you can always let them know how much you appreciate their work and that a donation may be forthcoming...
Debonairone...
hmm
I'd say 10-15 USD is the right donation value and I feel that one should donate if they find that the ROM is perfect for their needs
If you were to donate, i'd say the minimum would be the cost of a pint of beer in your own currency.
a small way to say thanks online.
Moved to General subforum as this isn't really tied to a specific Rom or device.
FWIW, as someone who has both sent & received donations I think that the average is from $5 - $20 depending on what efforts you are supporting, how much value you feel you got from the efforts and finally how deep your pockets are. I've received a few donations that were much higher and it is always appreciated but nobody is trying to live off donations.
In the end it's really something that changes from user to user, project to project, and even month to month as your financial situation may change.
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I'd say 10-15 USD is the right donation value and I feel that one should donate if they find that the ROM is perfect for their needs
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Not just ROMs but all Apps should be considered. There is a whole lot of great creativity in this forum.....
I have to say thnxs to those that shared their thoughts... Hopefully, someone has gained some insight as to how much they should donate, if they feel the urge to do so... I agree, as already stated, that shelling out the amount for a couple beers will always be appreciated, but as mentioned by Kyphur, your financial situation should be the final factor as to how much you want/can donate...
Thanks Debonairone
This was indeed very helpful!
So thank you devs, each and everyone of you! You guys continue to do selfless work without expecting anything in return even though what you do often deserves a decent price tag on it. So even though I'm not that wealthy and can only make donations every so often (which I don't feel I do enough) and 85% (and that's being generous) of the leeches who come to this site never give back, never appreciate, and never donate. I speak from all of us that at least give you our gratitude and respect if we can't afford more when I say THANK YOU for every new rom, for helping me un-brick my device, for holding my hand through every hiccup, and for kicking me in the ass when I get out of line... and just in general THANK YOU.
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So thank you devs, each and everyone of you! You guys continue to do selfless work without expecting anything in return even though what you do often deserves a decent price tag on it. So even though I'm not that wealthy and can only make donations every so often (which I don't feel I do enough) and 85% (and that's being generous) of the leeches who come to this site never give back, never appreciate, and never donate. I speak from all of us that at least give you our gratitude and respect if we can't afford more when I say THANK YOU for every new rom, for helping me un-brick my device, for holding my hand through every hiccup, and for kicking me in the ass when I get out of line... and just in general THANK YOU.
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AGREED!!!!!
I agree as well!!! Android would not be what it is, and certainly not as fun as it is, without you!!!
Nothing like sucking up...to who i dont have any idea....they know they are appreciated and not in this for a profit nor personal gain.
Well, I see the token troll has made his appearance!
If you cannot contribute positively then move on... does it really help to post nonsense?!
I agree with the OP!! Thank you to all developers. I truly appreciate your work... some people are ungrateful and take the work you do for granted.
I honestly feel that Android would not be where it was today without the phenomenal development work!
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Nothing like sucking up...to who i dont have any idea....they know they are appreciated and not in this for a profit nor personal gain.
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To be honest most people who come in here just come for what they want and leave, that isn't appreciation, neither is that same person coming in and creating a thread about how little they do. The amount of appreciation is far outweighed by the amount of un-appreciation.
Not to mention just because devs know they're appreciated doesn't mean we can't say thanks, how hard is that?
Nicely said OP. I am such a n00b (first smartphone), and the willingness of those here to help people like me is greatly appreciated.
just read a rant http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2122219&page=15 posted by a themer/modder who wasnt getting love for his/her work. i absolutely understood the point of the rant. people *****ing at the dude for not timely fixing a minor glitch. geeze i'd be pissed t00
i guess i don't understand the importance of the "thanks" :good: button. is it incentive based? prize money for the top thanks earner. woo-hoo! or is it just an expression of gratitude? forum etiquette? or somehting else?
unfortunately, thinking i havent used the dang thing enough. nor have i made fair use of the pay pal button either. sorry to those from whose work i benefited. i'll be certain to hit both the donate and thanks buttons in the future.
thanks
Its more of a gratitude thing. It also shows on the users profile. It shows good reputation on the forums, and that they are usually helpful. The more thanks, the more helpful people find your posts. That's why usually at the end of a mod or ROM post, you'll find lots of thanks. Its a free way to show gratitude. I've looked into modding and theming and I know how crazy it is. I don't take a second to hesitate when I see something I like. Of course, if you're feeling extra generous, a donation doesn't hurt at all. Like Andy said, he made over $1,000 making mods on the inc2. I never got to donate for anything of his, as I'm a broke college student so I can't spare anything at all. However, I know his is some of the best in the business. He was an insider on many teams who have uber talented devs. A little thanks or donation always helps.
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As mentioned above, it's all about respect and grattitude. Not everyone can donate money, and sometimes things deserve a little recognition but not quite the monetary kind
From the developer standpoint, think of it as street-cred and they want to earn it.
got it. thanks
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just read a rant http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2122219&page=15 posted by a themer/modder who wasnt getting love for his/her work. i absolutely understood the point of the rant. people *****ing at the dude for not timely fixing a minor glitch. geeze i'd be pissed t00
i guess i don't understand the importance of the "thanks" :good: button. is it incentive based? prize money for the top thanks earner. woo-hoo! or is it just an expression of gratitude? forum etiquette? or somehting else?
unfortunately, thinking i havent used the dang thing enough. nor have i made fair use of the pay pal button either. sorry to those from whose work i benefited. i'll be certain to hit both the donate and thanks buttons in the future.
thanks
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kind of rude to make a thread about me rather than just PM me..
but whatever..
I don't get paid for someone hitting the thanks button.
It's a sign of respect within the forum.
When you put your free time and effort into a product that someone else is using and enjoying, the least they can do to show they are appreciative is to hit the thanks button, it's exactly that, saying thank you for your work.
I guess it's hard to remember what it's like to NOT know and understand.
I try to put myself back in that position, but when I spend countless hours and many late nights, leaving for a ****ty next work day to put out a theme that I don't even use... I was just kindly asked by someone, so I got to it when I had the time.
Yes I rant time to time, now being one of them, but to all those who truly know me, I think would say I am an alright guy. I can and will be a **** to you if I think it's deserved, but that's me. There's only one andybones lol