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HTC Touch HD Owners in the United States Help Out Us Wannabees

To those of you who've been brave enough to import the Touch HD, please enlighten the rest of us who are on the fence. I think we all know that the major issue is the lack of 3G for us in the states. Does EDGE work well enough for day to day mobile browsing? Is the lack of faster data speed a big enough minus to advise others against importing the phone? Are there other pitfalls that we may not be aware of at this point? Thanks for any information you guys can offer to the rest of us who may be considering buying The Touch HD for use with TMobile, AT&T, etc.

better wait
I am one of the people hesitating too. However I know I hate the EDGE speeds compared to the 3G network. In the my office the 3G reception is marginal and with my current HTC Trinity I change the E and H nets all day long.
What I hate about the E:
1. The phone is much more slow. by much I mean MUCH. browsing the internet on E speeds is amazingly slow.
2. If you happen to have the phone in a cradle like I do, and happen to have amplified speakers of the cheap kind , the one without magnetic protection, like most people will add to their office PC, spending few bucks, you will note how much interference is created by the phone while on the E network. Amazingly loud noise. While on the H network - quiet.
3. A co-worker of mine bought the Diamond before the US 3G version showed up. 3 months later the US version came out. It is different hardware so he will NEVER be on 3G with his over $500 investment.
4. I have consulted a reseller of the HD touch and he told me the chipset of the current HD touch will not support the US 3G frequency. it isn't that there will be a firmware or software tweak.
As much as I am eager to put put my hands on a new HD, I am waiting. If spending $850 will buy me a downgrade to EDGE networks, as good as reception is for me (Edge is working in a very nice coverage for me with AT&T in CA) I rather be patient. Either thee will be a US version, or maybe another phone. HTC already came up with 4G phone and Wimax support one, so I am sure they are not going to neglect the US market for long.
I personally believe as soon as they will finish milking the European market with 850 Euro per unit, it will have to appear here supporting US nets.

yeah...
I have one... cost me $710 shipped to me in two days from clove.
Edge is slower. 3G is faster.. some places more than twice as fast.
Depends on what you want... i absolutely love the phone... still having fun tweaking the heck out of it... the screen is to die for.. everyone wants to know what kind of phone it is.. i use slingplayer to watch shows at 350K on edge no problem... thats my highest bandwdith consumption piece. Side by side... my wifes iphone opens cnn in about 4 seconds less than my phone does it... i can give up 4 seconds for the goodness that is the Touch HD... really I can.. like i said.. some people will care more than others... me, Id do it all over again

might be moving to a BB Storm

Hi all,
I'm out of contract at the moment so I thought I'd see what was available, and settled on the BB Storm.
Originally I got my TP as I wanted a decent email machine but wasn't enthralled by anything else out there. And while I love the TP (thousands of available apps and themes, endlessly customisable, and excellent email support)...it's inability to hang on to a signal has tried my patience (despite me trying several different radios). What good is a phone that can't be used in my house!!
So, I have a BB storm waiting for me at home right now. The first thing I plan to do is try the vodafone sim in my TP and see if anything improves (currently with t-mob), failing that I will try the storm for a while. if it doesn't flick my switch then it'll be going back...and I'll be looking for something else.
anyone else any experience with the Storm?

My friend on Verizon has one, I played around with it at lunch.... that clicky touch screen pisses me off no end. As much as I dislike the Iphone3G I'd take that over a Storm.
I've come to realize that I require a hardware QWERTY on my phones, long emails are a snap with a real keyboard. The Raphael or X1 are really the best for that form factor so far.
What was wrong with your signal on the TP? Did you try different band settings?

I've tried all sorts of settings, in my house the absolute maximum I get is two bars, and as son as you move around it drops out. I really do think the phone has everything else, but a phone that doesn't work as a phone isn't much use to me.

I get good signal on my Raphael, compared to an old Nokia flip phone I keep around for backup the signal bars are always 5 on both phones.
If you try your T-Mobile SIM in a different phone do you get better signal than on the TP? It could be T-Mobile just has bad coverage in your area.

BB Storm is a great phone, with one caveat... the click screen forced them to have an open ridge around the screen, and I know of two people who have already complained that it attracts any lint from their pockets, and they've had to clean out that ridge a few times with a piece of paper (or toothpick).
I wonder what will get behind that screen after a few months, and will the click screen still work..

The SIM isn't activated by default and Verizon doesn't use the SIM in the US. The SIM is for international travel and it's a vodafone/Verizon SIM to enable their Canada access plan. You can have them enable that SIM, but it doesn't unlock the phone. They've apparently had a lot of people unlocking and dumping Verizon, so they've taken a hard stance on their 60-day unlocking policy. Sucks for us that actually travel. I had my first Storm unlocked with no issues, but got a replacement and can't get it unlocked now. Canceled my account and the phone is going back.

I have tried the Verizon version, and I can't get over the clicky screen. It's just plain annoying. I have been a BlackBerry user for 3 years, have had 20 different devices, and I will not get a Storm nor will I recommend it to anyone.

1x today has taught me how much I don’t care about 4G

Aside from being pissed by the 1x at the top of the screen I was able to do everything I wanted to do. Sent text messages all day on Google Talk and Skype, downloaded the Amazon free app of the day (business calendar) in about 40 seconds. Updated a few other apps in about a min., received and responded to multiple emails all day long, uploaded a pic to facebook with no problems, And made calls... All on 1x!
Well there is a much bigger difference between 1x and 3G than there is between 3G and 4G…. So why would I ever sacrifice battery life on this device for that difference?
Crazy!
Unless you are using your phone for internet access for your PC via tether… I think everyone is just wasting battery life for nothing.

Then you bought the wrong phone. Better luck next time.
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Dbagjones said:
Then you bought the wrong phone. Better luck next time.
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I did not buy the wrong phone at all!! I love the speed of the phone for running the apps. I love the screen, the 8MP cam, the great front facing cam. I bought this phone because it could run the Android OS very fast and smooth. Not at all for 4G.
Are you telling me you bought this phone just for the 4G???? If that’s the case I think I bought the phone for much better reasons than you did!

HawkStream said:
I did not buy the wrong phone at all!! I love the speed of the phone for running the apps. I love the screen, the 8MP cam, the great front facing cam. I bought this phone because it could run the Android OS very fast and smooth. Not at all for 4G.
Are you telling me you bought this phone just for the 4G???? If that’s the case I think I bought the phone for much better reasons than you did!
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Love How Stable and Hackable HTC Phones are. Good Size screen, More Ram for Multi Tasking, Front Camera, Kickstand. This thing is a Beast Overclocked. Im Not in a 4g City bit when I go out of town (Which I do Often) 4G Is just Icing on the Cake.

HawkStream said:
I did not buy the wrong phone at all!! I love the speed of the phone for running the apps. I love the screen, the 8MP cam, the great front facing cam. I bought this phone because it could run the Android OS very fast and smooth. Not at all for 4G.
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There are plenty of better phones out there as far as performance and features go. The Thunderbolt is an inefficient beast; in the class of smartphones, it's metaphorically similar to the 17" Desktop Replacement laptop. In other words, it's big, heavy, and very power-hungry, relative to other members of its device class.
If you had waited until the May or June launch of the Samsung phones with the Tegra 2 dual core SoC with Nvidia graphics, that thing will absolutely blow your socks off, and probably also ship with Android 2.3 or 2.4 if it's out by then. Why buy a phone still using the old PowerVR SGX core if you are crazy about graphics performance, when the SGX is just a few months away from being eclipsed by Tegra 2 phones?
HawkStream said:
Are you telling me you bought this phone just for the 4G???? If that’s the case I think I bought the phone for much better reasons than you did!
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It's the first LTE smartphone to market. Ever. Period. In the whole world. And you're telling me you bought it because it's fast? Pssh -- as far as the non-networked components go, it's basically no better than a Droid 2. It's the last model to use 2009-2010 era SoC, and the only reason it doesn't use something more cutting-edge is because the brand new chips are still being debugged and tested, and they needed a phone out in March.
The Thunderbolt has a separate radio chip for the CDMA/EvDO and the LTE. This is highly suboptimal from both a power standpoint and size/weight. Qualcomm says they can probably have chips available by early 2012 that offer both traditional CDMA, voice, and LTE in a single integrated circuit, which would also probably use smaller fabrication process technology for even less power consumption and weight. The Thunderbolt is a "hack" as far as smartphones are concerned; it's very unusual for any kind of phone to have two radios in it (even if it supports more than one radio protocol, they're usually supported together on a single chip). The phone was rushed, hence why they couldn't wait for Qualcomm to get their integrated LTE+CDMA chip together.
You can rip the Thunderbolt apart this way by looking under the hood and pointing out its many limitations and flaws. The only thing that stands out -- the only killer feature that sets this apart from the Droid 2 or any other 2010 Android-based 3G phone -- is the LTE. If not for the LTE, the Thunderbolt is just a power-hungry, heavy version of the Droid 2 (or Droid X, I guess, since it lacks a hardware keyboard too).
Since Verizon locks you in to a two year contract, you should really be planning ahead a bit unless you have $600 - $750 to sink on a retail smartphone. If you had waited for just a few more months to get the more killer "core specs" (CPU, GPU, RAM) on the phones coming out in the latter half of 2011, you would be getting the first round of the next generation of the CPU/GPU bump. And since that's what you seem to value (moreso than the bandwidth), that's probably what you should have waited for.
Now you're stuck with a phone (as am I) that will have significantly underpowered specs by the time the two year term is up -- it's entirely possible that new Android apps and games written in Q1 2013 (the last stretch of your 2 year term) will not run at all on your Thunderbolt, or lag so badly that they're unusable, because they are tuned to run on e.g. the Tegra 2 or later dual core platforms.
But I don't play games on my phone, so that doesn't matter to me. The LTE is why I value this phone so much and bought it, and since I don't exercise the CPU/GPU as highly as cellphone gamers, it probably won't matter a lick to me that in early 2013 I won't be able to play Angry Birds 3 on my Thunderbolt. I'll be satisfied that I got a full two years worth of fast LTE service, and that's what's important to me.
So just saying, if you don't care about the extra bandwidth, you made a fairly bad choice. The other aspects of the Thunderbolt are gonna be obsolete pretty quick because the non-network parts of the phone are built around a late 2009 platform, so unless you want to shell out retail when Tegra 2 phones hit, you might come to regret your purchase in about a year.
In comparison to graphics cards, it'd be like buying a Nvidia GTX 280 (supporting DirectX 10.1) a month before the Fermi cards hit the shelves (supporting DirectX 11).

Yeah guys, this was a 4G phone first and foremost. The screen, processor and ram are all average. Actually the screen is already outdated with QHD screens out. Not to mention the phone is a heavy beast with a tiny battery. Don't get me wrong I love the TB, It looks great and is fairly powerful, but the main reason I bought it was to have 4G. Now I can get rid of my cable modem. But to the point of the OP, when not tethering it actually works great with just 1x or 3G
If I didn't care about 4g I would have waited for a dual core, qhd device to come out. I wanted the Bionic which has all of the above, but they keep pushing it out amid massive development problems.

I cant download roms on the fly with Rom Manager, or update CM7-alpha while im out of the house on 1x.. thats really the only thing I saw

allquixotic said:
It's the first LTE smartphone to market. Ever. Period. In the whole world.
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uhm...no. MetroPCS beat Verizon to the punch on that one.

HawkStream said:
Aside from being pissed by the 1x at the top of the screen I was able to do everything I wanted to do. Sent text messages all day on Google Talk and Skype, downloaded the Amazon free app of the day (business calendar) in about 40 seconds. Updated a few other apps in about a min., received and responded to multiple emails all day long, uploaded a pic to facebook with no problems, And made calls... All on 1x!
Well there is a much bigger difference between 1x and 3G than there is between 3G and 4G…. So why would I ever sacrifice battery life on this device for that difference?
Crazy!
Unless you are using your phone for internet access for your PC via tether… I think everyone is just wasting battery life for nothing.
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So sell your Thunderbolt, get a RAZR, it seems that should suit you fine. Plus then you don't have to worry about battery life.
Your post today has taught me how much I don't care about what you say.

1X for a day made me have the exact opposite realization. I live in a 4G area and I am getting so spoiled by the lighting fast speeds (sometimes faster than my home broadband connection). When I had 1X, I couldn't send MMS, browsing the web was painfully slow and it was generally all around a miserable experience.

Wasn't able to steam anything at all. No AudioGalaxy, YouTube, Hulu, other Flash content. Web browsing was ridiculously slow. Downloading and installing updates was painful.
I have missed my LTE. Sorry you don't use your phone to its full capacity but some people do. I'd rather my phone not be limited to the speed of the network. If you're cool with it, congrats.

drumz0rz said:
1X for a day made me have the exact opposite realization. I live in a 4G area and I am getting so spoiled by the lighting fast speeds (sometimes faster than my home broadband connection). When I had 1X, I couldn't send MMS, browsing the web was painfully slow and it was generally all around a miserable experience.
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So agreed! Even when I got it to go onto 3G I still was like "Ughhhhhh!" Yeah, 3G is decent, but 4G is incredible. If >10X faster doesn't make a difference to you, maybe this isn't the phone for you. I noticed the difference all day. Sure, it doesn't take that long to download an app on 3G, maybe 30 seconds to 2 minutes, but you can't tell me that waiting 2 minutes is the same experience as it happening virtually instantly. On my phone, I want things happening quickly. I wanna be able to get it out and get to what I wanted to do quickly so I'm not just standing there waiting on my phone on the sidewalk. I mean, come on, with 4G most things are practically instant -- 3G there's always some waiting. If waiting is something that's okay, maybe conventional ovens are just as good as microwaves and cable internet is just as good as fiber optic, etc.

HawkStream said:
Unless you are using your phone for internet access for your PC via tether… I think everyone is just wasting battery life for nothing.
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Can't tell; is this a troll thread?
Having a 4G thunderbolt without 4G connection was the least enjoyment i've ever got out of this phone.
I've literally been twitching from the withdrawal.
4G is a night and day difference from 3G, no questions asked.

I used Wifi at Home and Work, so I was unimpacted.
And to the one guy with the long story, true this is a 2009-2010 phone, and I ONLY bought it to lock myself into cheap 4G/LTE pricing before it gets out of control and data caps, etc...
...but unless gaming is your thing, the Thunderbolt will do 90-95% of everything you need for at least the next two years. Sure I was holding out for the Galaxy SII, and I will probably sell the TB and buy a Dual Core phone off contract with the money that I make, but that is not even an issue at this point because this phone does EVERYTHING I need.

Eddog4DROID said:
I used Wifi at Home and Work, so I was unimpacted.
And to the one guy with the long story, true this is a 2009-2010 phone, and I ONLY bought it to lock myself into cheap 4G/LTE pricing before it gets out of control and data caps, etc...
...but unless gaming is your thing, the Thunderbolt will do 90-95% of everything you need for at least the next two years. Sure I was holding out for the Galaxy SII, and I will probably sell the TB and buy a Dual Core phone off contract with the money that I make, but that is not even an issue at this point because this phone does EVERYTHING I need.
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I love my TB, i haven't even gotten to use 4G yet and i love it compared to my Eris. I think 3G is fast enough now that I have a phone that can handle using it lol. Also every Android phone will be obsolete after a year, this forum is proof that the hardware cannot keep up with the advancements in technology. I agree with you on selling my TB to get a phone with a Dual Core or a nicer video card but this phone gets me through the day and more using "Mobile Network" only when i need it because you don't need that sh!t on to text or call. Everyone that complains this thing is a heavy beast you are a retard imo, its a F'n phone its in your pocket and you don't feel it 95% of the day. When you hold a phone its usually for just over a minute maximum. If your holding off on the purchase of a phone because of weight you are a dumbass.

WOW at this thread lol espcially wow at the guy who said 1x was fine. I know personally I do tons of stuff that require the internet. Facebook/twitter/youtube/email/browsing. All that sucked on 1x it was like being on 56k I could only do one thing at a time and on top of that it did it slowly. Now my 4G is back I can surf the net pop over to facebook and twitter and still stream music/youtube with out missing a beat. 4G is serious

allquixotic said:
It's the first LTE smartphone to market. Ever. Period. In the whole world.
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Nope...
PJnc284 said:
uhm...no. MetroPCS beat Verizon to the punch on that one.
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+1, this is exactly what I was thinking when I read that post.

Turns out that I did care. My home WiFi happened to crap out the day before. While I did what I could to fix it, it became a lower priority with this phone. D'oh!
As to the larger issue of why buy this phone, I will chime in. Until VZW recently turned on LTE where I live, I thought it was going to be at least a year out. I was wrong. I had planned on buying a Dinc 2, as I loved my Dinc, and it would hold me out until LTE was where I was, and by then i'd have a number of choices.
Why I bought the Tbolt 2 weeks ago: 4G locked in at this price for at least 2 years. Can't predict the future, but this matters to me. Next: developer support. I don't like Moto, and devs really do an amazing job with HTC phones. I worried that the Dinc 2 would get no (or less) love. The LG and Sammy phones may turn out to be great but they are not released yet, and who knows what kind of dev support there will be.
Lastly, the sooner I upgraded (I was sitting on an early upgrade for almost a year), the sooner I can upgrade to the next or next next gen phone.
Phone has a bug or two, but no regrets at all (already rooted), and as I said I had thought my rooted Dinc was awesome.

Get a droid incredible
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Everyone has a butthole and everyone think theirs is more special than the other person but you shouldn't go around flaunting your asshole and telling others theirs should be like yours.

Decision

Im on Sprint and have been phoneless since my epic broke (for the 800th time lol)....and am waiting on the evo3d wich comes out friday to use my early upgrade. However Im not so sure i want to switch over to htc and am just mesmerized by the infuse (seems to be the closest thing to the sgs2 IMO)......would it be worth it to switch over to att and skip the evo? I see its on sale at best buy for only $99 as well. This might seem a little illogical as i cant find anything on the infuse vs the evo3d lol.

I have been on ATT for 8 years. Signal coverage in my area is excellent (Western Washington). I have had zero problems with customer service. As of today, all dealings with CS has been very enjoyable.
The phone is outstanding. The only issue was long waits for GPS to lock. A few setting changes (No hacks) and now 2-3 sec GPS locks. A 4.5 inch screen seems like it would make a large phone, but it fits well in the hand and feels good while talking.
Hope this helps.

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I have been on ATT for 8 years. Signal coverage in my area is excellent (Western Washington). I have had zero problems with customer service. As of today, all dealings with CS has been very enjoyable.
The phone is outstanding. The only issue was long waits for GPS to lock. A few setting changes (No hacks) and now 2-3 sec GPS locks. A 4.5 inch screen seems like it would make a large phone, but it fits well in the hand and feels good while talking.
Hope this helps.
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May I ask what setting changes you did for GPS?

That question has a couple of varying factors in it:
The most important, IMO-
1) Does AT&T work the same (or better) than Sprint where you live?
If it does, then...
2) Do you have a problem paying more, for less? I have had AT&T for 8 years now, and the coverage is great where I live (we just got 4G, as well), but my bill is about $210 a month, for 5 lines (2 smartphones), with 450 minutes to share between all 5, 5000 N&W, and unlimited mobile to mobile, text, and 4GB data with my Infuse (with tethering) and 2GB for my wifes iphone 4. The 3 other lines are my "rotating upgrades", so I pay $30 extra a month for the right upgrade essentially whenever I want, so you can say you'd be paying about $180 for the same exact plan as I have. If you're on your own, I think Sprint is about $70 for 450 anytime minutes, unlimited M2M, text, and UNLIMITED data... IIRC. I know you have Sprint now, so you know how much you pay.. I'm just stating for comparison purposes.
If both of those aren't an issue...
I would determine what you want to do on your phone, and whether or not 3D is important to you. For me, I use my phone for light gaming (some emulators/Let's Golf! 2 HD/etc, watching flash videos, taking pictures, Pandora about 3-5 hours a day, occasional email, about 100 texts a day, and occasionally watching a movie. The Infuse has never, once, prevented me from doing any of the above. Flash video (especially on a custom rom) plays 100% fine with no stutter, it has a great camera, big screen, and the battery is more than enough to power me through a whole day and come out with 30%+ left.
If you "need" the power that a DC phone provides, then by all means, touch it out and go for the Evo 3D. For me, the Infuse has provided everything I need and then some. Will I eventually jump to a dual core phone? Most certainly. I'll get AT&T's first LTE phone that comes to market (which i'm assuming will probably have a dual core processor in it)..but for now, this is the best phone i've had in the past 4 years.

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May I ask what setting changes you did for GPS?
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Just followed these directions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1107860

timmillah said:
but for now, this is the best phone i've had in the past 4 years.
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I agree 100%. This is the best phone ATT has had in a long time.

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I agree 100%. This is the best phone ATT has had in a long time.
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Not just on AT&T, I've had unlocked phones, everywhere from the HTC Touch HD, the Nokia N95/e71/e75/N8, SE Xperia X1/Arc... It's THE best phone i've used. I had the Inspire, and while I liked it, the battery life was a huge downer for me.
I just can't wait for more devs to come on board and get some CM7 or MIUI love! (love the work the devs that are here are doing, though!)

well it depends, are you a talker? unlimited everything on att will be much more expensive. but if you csn use a minimum talk plan or you have a family plan with many lines its not too bad. check for work discounts as well.
other than price the service is really good lately. my area was weird but recently I wouldn't have anything else, not even Verizon. the data speeds are better than sprint, and though t-mo can be faster and lte is way faster t-mo has crappy coverage and lte is in a limited number of markets. with att you get good 3g speeds almost anywhere. 3g on Verizon is agivatingly slow in most places so you either have crazy speed in a big city, or you want throw the phone in frustation.
if cost isn't an issue att is probably not a bad idea, unfortunately there is no unlimited data unless you had the old iphone plan, that could be the deal breaker for many smartphone users.

timmillah said:
That question has a couple of varying factors in it:
The most important, IMO-
1) Does AT&T work the same (or better) than Sprint where you live?
If it does, then...
2) Do you have a problem paying more, for less? I have had AT&T for 8 years now, and the coverage is great where I live (we just got 4G, as well), but my bill is about $210 a month, for 5 lines (2 smartphones), with 450 minutes to share between all 5, 5000 N&W, and unlimited mobile to mobile, text, and 4GB data with my Infuse (with tethering) and 2GB for my wifes iphone 4. The 3 other lines are my "rotating upgrades", so I pay $30 extra a month for the right upgrade essentially whenever I want, so you can say you'd be paying about $180 for the same exact plan as I have. If you're on your own, I think Sprint is about $70 for 450 anytime minutes, unlimited M2M, text, and UNLIMITED data... IIRC. I know you have Sprint now, so you know how much you pay.. I'm just stating for comparison purposes.
If both of those aren't an issue...
I would determine what you want to do on your phone, and whether or not 3D is important to you. For me, I use my phone for light gaming (some emulators/Let's Golf! 2 HD/etc, watching flash videos, taking pictures, Pandora about 3-5 hours a day, occasional email, about 100 texts a day, and occasionally watching a movie. The Infuse has never, once, prevented me from doing any of the above. Flash video (especially on a custom rom) plays 100% fine with no stutter, it has a great camera, big screen, and the battery is more than enough to power me through a whole day and come out with 30%+ left.
If you "need" the power that a DC phone provides, then by all means, touch it out and go for the Evo 3D. For me, the Infuse has provided everything I need and then some. Will I eventually jump to a dual core phone? Most certainly. I'll get AT&T's first LTE phone that comes to market (which i'm assuming will probably have a dual core processor in it)..but for now, this is the best phone i've had in the past 4 years.
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I do beleive att would work better in my area. Im in upstate NY. And the everything data plan for sprint is 79.99 but all in all ends up costing me about 96$ with all the otehr charges a month so $120 doesent seem that much more steep. Im actually pretty impressed with everything on the evo3d EXCEPT the camera.....and i dont mean 3d , could care less about that......just the camera in general seems to suck.

AGM H5 Phone

Just bought the AGM H5 6G/128G 4G phone. Looks to be fairly new and the reviews on Amazon are from people that got the phone for free so I was a bit skeptical but at the $269 USD pricepoint, I could at least check it out and have 30 days to return if something wasn't right.
First off, this phone is heavy, like 12.7 ounces heavy.. 7000mwh battery, night vision camera and a huge loudspeaker on the back that is overall very clear. Waterproof, dustproof, etc. Essentially, a Rugged phone. Screen protector is already applied to the phone and there is no need for a case.
Got the phone for my mom, she's always listening to podcasts while she gardens and I figured this would be perfect for her. Unboxxed the phone, setup of the phone was google standard, was able to pull off all her data through the initial setup. Phone is somewhat responsive for having a Snapdragon 6 , Apps installed are standard google apps, no carrier apps or any other garbage apps. I have no idea as to the rooting potential of this phone as it is not my phone to tinker with. Overall, seems like a pretty decent rugged phone for the price point.
Anyone else seen this phone or even have it? What are some of the things that I can pull off the phone that you'd like to see spec wise or anything else? Let me know. The other AGM line of phones seems pretty nice (one with a thermal camera built in). Also, the phone was able to accept my mom's T-Mobile sim (US) and VoWIFI and VoLTE work correctly on Tmobile network.
Here's the amazon link to the phone: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09X36FCD3

drarkanex said:
Just bought the AGM H5 6G/128G 4G phone. Looks to be fairly new and the reviews on Amazon are from people that got the phone for free so I was a bit skeptical but at the $269 USD pricepoint, I could at least check it out and have 30 days to return if something wasn't right.
First off, this phone is heavy, like 12.7 ounces heavy.. 7000mwh battery, night vision camera and a huge loudspeaker on the back that is overall very clear. Waterproof, dustproof, etc. Essentially, a Rugged phone. Screen protector is already applied to the phone and there is no need for a case.
Got the phone for my mom, she's always listening to podcasts while she gardens and I figured this would be perfect for her. Unboxxed the phone, setup of the phone was google standard, was able to pull off all her data through the initial setup. Phone is somewhat responsive for having a Snapdragon 6 , Apps installed are standard google apps, no carrier apps or any other garbage apps. I have no idea as to the rooting potential of this phone as it is not my phone to tinker with. Overall, seems like a pretty decent rugged phone for the price point.
Anyone else seen this phone or even have it? What are some of the things that I can pull off the phone that you'd like to see spec wise or anything else? Let me know. The other AGM line of phones seems pretty nice (one with a thermal camera built in). Also, the phone was able to accept my mom's T-Mobile sim (US) and VoWIFI and VoLTE work correctly on Tmobile network.
Here's the amazon link to the phone: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09X36FCD3
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Hi what kind of screen on time are you seeing, is the 7000mah claim legit? Did it support all TMobile bands including extended range lte? Thanks!

redspeed said:
Hi what kind of screen on time are you seeing, is the 7000mah claim legit? Did it support all TMobile bands including extended range lte? Thanks!
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Sorry about not responding. so far so good VoLTE over tmobile and at&t. Battery is pretty stout. i forgot about the phone for about a week and it was still over 90% charge.. just mild usage, about 2 days worth of charge. pretty crazy phone if you're not looking for anything fancy.

I just got this phone second hand. Hasn't wanted to play nice with Verizon MVNO, think maybe it's APN settings.
I was able to poke around and root it with Magisk and ADB/Fastboot. I can cobble together a write-up, but I doubt I can share any links since this is my first post.

shorn944 said:
I just got this phone second hand. Hasn't wanted to play nice with Verizon MVNO, think maybe it's APN settings.
I was able to poke around and root it with Magisk and ADB/Fastboot. I can cobble together a write-up, but I doubt I can share any links since this is my first post.
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I didn't think this phone was a CDMA phone. Is your Verizon MVNO gsm? I mean, i like the stock rom with it, it's not too bad but would be nice to get a custom rom built for it, maybe tighten it up a bit.

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I didn't think this phone was a CDMA phone. Is your Verizon MVNO gsm? I mean, i like the stock rom with it, it's not too bad but would be nice to get a custom rom built for it, maybe tighten it up a bit.
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It doesn't appear to be CDMA, but what research I was able to do before buying suggested it would work on the 4G bands Verizon does use. It will connect, but it frequently reconnects, to the point I haven't been able to make it my daily driver.
I've tried it with both Total Wireless (now Total), and US Mobile so far.

shorn944 said:
It doesn't appear to be CDMA, but what research I was able to do before buying suggested it would work on the 4G bands Verizon does use. It will connect, but it frequently reconnects, to the point I haven't been able to make it my daily driver.
I've tried it with both Total Wireless (now Total), and US Mobile so far.
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Ah ok, i'm currently on Black Wireless/RedPocket. and VoLTE works just fine..

I also bought the same h5, and there are a few inconvenient things I've noticed:
The screen has a slight touch delay, but it's enough to slow down typing and rhythm gaming.
All of the Bluetooth settings in dev options are greyed out except for the basic stuff.
The headphone jack is on the other side of the cover tether, making it tedious to access, but this is more a design issue.
Other than those things, it's a pretty great phone. Compatible with AT&Ts new 4g network, has WiFi calling, as you stated it's pretty quick for what it is, and the battery life is astronomical. I would just like to know if the touch lag is a limitation of the capacitive screen or a software issue, and if it's possible to enable all of the Bluetooth settings. I have a black view BV5900 too, and it has all of the Bluetooth settings unblocked, but uses lesser hardware than this.