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Has the browser lag been fixed?

http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/12/22/google.pushes.first.nexus.s.firmware.update/
So apparently the first update for the nexus s. 2.3.1 was suppose to address the browser lag.
I've been creeping the Nexus s forum for a bit now and was wondering if the browser is as smooth as the galaxy s.
It seams like the browser when compared to the Atrix(had and returned) is a bit smoother.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm3BJ2vKpGM
What are you guys experiencing right now?

The Galaxy S browser is special, it's hardware accelerated. The NS one isn't, and thus isn't as smooth.

Do you think Google will release the same update down the road? Have they acknowledged this problem yet?

There's alternative browsers such as Dolphin Browser HD. They work fine... at least for me.

It honestly does not make sense that Google would not address the browser lag. I hope it gets addressed asap cause I love going on worldstarhiphop
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zephiK said:
There's alternative browsers such as Dolphin Browser HD. They work fine... at least for me.
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Even with dolphin HD it lags. It even lags on the market website when you have the app screenshot on the page, how ironic...
The thread about black wallpapers here is impossible to scroll with NS. Disappointing and unacceptable.

No I don't think its been fixed yet. Galaxy s is a special case cause Samsung hardware accelerated it for that phone. How ironic, Samsung giving a better update over Google.

Opera !!! FLASH WORK
NO LAGG AT ALL !!!
Opera need to be ORIGINAL browser

On my side it feel somewhat slow when there is a Flash applet in the page and I try to zoom in while the page is still loading. But after that it seems to be fairly quick to respond.

m-p{3} said:
On my side it feel somewhat slow when there is a Flash applet in the page and I try to zoom in while the page is still loading. But after that it seems to be fairly quick to respond.
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Is this with Opera or the stock browser?

smurfit said:
Is this with Opera or the stock browser?
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try opera (full)
you WILL LOVE IT MAN !!! LOOOOVE IT ! 10000000%
FLASH, web pages WORKING SUPEEER SMOOOTH !!! suuuuper fast

avetny said:
try opera (full)
you WILL LOVE IT MAN !!! LOOOOVE IT ! 10000000%
FLASH, web pages WORKING SUPEEER SMOOOTH !!! suuuuper fast
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It is lag free indeed, I just tried it. It's missing all the options/plugins from dolphin though but so far so good. Thanks for the tip!

avetny said:
try opera (full)
you WILL LOVE IT MAN !!! LOOOOVE IT ! 10000000%
FLASH, web pages WORKING SUPEEER SMOOOTH !!! suuuuper fast
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Can you try www.tested.com please?
this nexus doesn't seam to be scrolling too well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt1MmcE3ZOY
Just curious if it's his phone.

It's actually a bit choppy on Opera 11... weird. First site that I've seen that made Opera 11 slow down a lot. If you think that's bad though... try that site on the regular android browser. It's basically unresponsive lol. There's something at the top of that page that's causing the browser to bog... perhaps a bit of bad website code?
smurfit said:
Can you try www.tested.com please?
this nexus doesn't seam to be scrolling too well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt1MmcE3ZOY
Just curious if it's his phone.
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dinan said:
If you think that's bad though... try that site on the regular android browser. It's basically unresponsive lol.
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Nah it's not that bad at all. Sure it's not great, but it's quite usable.

You know what, I had the same issue with my nexus s, really bad lag, even swiping down the mobile Facebook page was stuttery. I only just had mine, and it was already rooted with natarchy's kernel on and overclocked to 1.2Ghz. Also with clockworkmod flashed. So I thought this was a deal breaker, so last night I found s method using a nandroid backup off here to flash it back to stock, relocked the bootloader, and took it upstairs to charge up, ready to take back today. Well, guess what, tried it out again while lying in bed, and on every single big site I could think of, even like engadget. Like all the YouTube browser tests it was really quick, so I thought I'd put flash back on to measure the impact it had, which was minimal. The wife has an iPhone 4 so I pinched her phone and did a side by side comparison of browser load speeds and the nexus s was constantly a bit quicker, so, take from this what you will, is it rooting?, maybe it was the governor I was using, or the kernels, but it is more than respectable now. Also, scrolling through big pages is smooth too btw.

dinan said:
It's actually a bit choppy on Opera 11... weird. First site that I've seen that made Opera 11 slow down a lot. If you think that's bad though... try that site on the regular android browser. It's basically unresponsive lol. There's something at the top of that page that's causing the browser to bog... perhaps a bit of bad website code?
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I had opposite results ...opera browser was choppy on tested.com but stock android browser was fine.....not super smooth but just fine.

A little off topic but is there ANY way to get an unlimitedbdata plan if you have a new account?
If not...its back to sprint and bye bye GS2 for me. Already over the 2G mark and only twobweeks in!
Thanks

Never mind!

[Q] Laggy browser scrolling!

Is the issue of laggy and unusable browser fixed? Is there anycustom ROM that fixes it?

Disable flash.

I do not even have flash installed. It is a problem with android itself. I tried dolphin, stockbrowser and skyfire - same laggy performance. Only opera mobile works fine - because it is using hardware aceleration. Has someone used browsers from SGS or DHD (on custom roms)?

I have laggy browser only when page includes alot of big images. Overall it works fine. SGS browser is much more worse, than nexus s.

That of the SGS in 2.3.3 works much better than the nexus

Idk why google or Samsung don't address this issue.
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KULASSE said:
That of the SGS in 2.3.3 works much better than the nexus
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I have heard something else. No one has been happy with the browser of 2.3.3 with SGS.

I checked and firefox browser works quite well.

Browsing on Android is terrible, even with flash turned off or set to 'On Demand'
The whole readjusting the page thing to fit the width of the phone slows it down way too much.

Mic43 said:
I checked and firefox browser works quite well.
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default browser and dolphin HD gets sluggish scrolling whenever the page have images. I tried firefox recently and it was actually faster. Apparently it doesn't render the images completely when u load the page, it only shows a low resolution version of the image which is just enough for viewing on our 4" screen. Only when u pinch zoom in, the browser will render the image further display the image in more details.

tadaha said:
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default browser and dolphin HD gets sluggish scrolling whenever the page have images. I tried firefox recently and it was actually faster. Apparently it doesn't render the images completely when u load the page, it only shows a low resolution version of the image which is just enough for viewing on our 4" screen. Only when u pinch zoom in, the browser will render the image further display the image in more details.
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You are right i think. Its a shame though that most complex browser (dolphin) is inuasable.
Is dolphin works well on dhd or sgs?
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tadaha said:
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default browser and dolphin HD gets sluggish scrolling whenever the page have images. I tried firefox recently and it was actually faster. Apparently it doesn't render the images completely when u load the page, it only shows a low resolution version of the image which is just enough for viewing on our 4" screen. Only when u pinch zoom in, the browser will render the image further display the image in more details.
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I think opera mobile 11 is better than Firefox.
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so which browser should i get on my phone for the best experience?

meetagrawal said:
Browsing on Android is terrible, even with flash turned off or set to 'On Demand'
The whole readjusting the page thing to fit the width of the phone slows it down way too much.
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Oh yea ? Have you tried all the phones with all the ROM's, etc., to see if everything on android fails ? Don't quite think so. So, no. Browsing on Android isn't terrible. Browsing on SOME handsets may be.
OH, and btw. The readjusting doesn't slow anything at all. Only the scrolling does, on some phones. But you should've know this if you ACTUALLY had some experience with Android.

lambda30 said:
Oh yea ? Have you tried all the phones with all the ROM's, etc., to see if everything on android fails ? Don't quite think so. So, no. Browsing on Android isn't terrible. Browsing on SOME handsets may be.
OH, and btw. The readjusting doesn't slow anything at all. Only the scrolling does, on some phones. But you should've know this if you ACTUALLY had some experience with Android.
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I do have experience with Android since I have a Nexus S right now.
I have tried different roms and no they have not made browsing any better. iOS browsing speed is far ahead of what Android offers. To have to install roms on a vanilla Android device by Google to speed up browsing confirms my point. My Nexus is not an old phone by any measure. My 3g iPhone has significantly less lag than my Nexus S. That's a problem. Most people are NOT using roms and don't know or want to even do it. If it can't work by itself, it's BROKE. Why would you attempt to justify a weakness of a product you own?
Do you have any experience with iOS? You would know how bad Android browsing is if you have ever used an iPhone.

I wasn't justifying a weakness for the Nexus. I was just pointing out that you can't say that all Android phones suck at browsing when you couldn't have tested them all. I wasn't referring at the Nexus. For example, on my Desire, the browsing was as smooth as it can get. I have in fact used the iPhone and know that it hasn't got problems, so that's not the point.

opera 11 is the nicest I think. stock browser sux. lets wait for gpu accelerated browsers
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Google hasn't delivered a decent browsing experience. They create android and if the stock browser sucks then it's an android problem. The browser is not some special feature that can excuse these kinds of issues at this point in the development of smartphone software.
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[Q] browser Performance

i just asked myself something and maybe someone could held me out. is there anychance we can hope for a better browser performance for our sensation? as i see the browser of de galaxy2 is hardware accelerated but not of our sensation. And the browser performance on my friends stock samsung galaxy s2 is still far smoother then on our heavily tuned sensation (InsertCoin 2.2.1 ROM for me)
im a bit disappointed of this browser performance

Really? Honest question: what lags for you? I haven't come accross a single webpage that even stutters. I want to try it on my phone.

Bernardos70 said:
Really? Honest question: what lags for you? I haven't come accross a single webpage that even stutters. I want to try it on my phone.
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honest answer:
just try the xda main forum (overview of all phones)
this ist just not acceptable. It laggs like f**king hell. Not all pages lag though. Though i recognize mini stutter and short lags on most of the pages. I really dont like this.
And i must say im always using the desktop view, not the mobile view.
and i cannot understand why a "dualcore" 1.2ghz!!! CPU is not able do render a webpage at 30fps. This lag feels like about 10fps browsing the xda Main Forum.
Even my old ancient pentium2 266mhz notebook is able to handle this page fluid.
Whats going wrong?

I know exactly what you're talking about, and if the Galaxy S2 can do that smoothly, that's awesome. But as far as usability goes, and me coming from a Galaxy S with Cyanogen.... it's way faster.
But I draw the line at usability. I used to go to www.ablogtoread.com often on the Galaxy S just to be completely slaughtered by a near completely lock up. I can browse that fine now.
The hardware acceleration does cause a tangible decrease in battery life as well. That's one side effect. Maybe someone can shed some light on this, maybe there is a hardware accelerated browser down the pipeline? Maybe Cyanogen will come through with that?

It's probably not what you want to read, but have you given Opera a try? It is way smoother than the stock browser, at least a far as rendering/scrolling. If you want to give that a try, get the bigger version of it from the market. I can't speak about the smaller one, but I think it is not as fast or as full featured as its big brother.

Bernardos70 said:
It's probably not what you want to read, but have you given Opera a try? It is way smoother than the stock browser, at least a far as rendering/scrolling. If you want to give that a try, get the bigger version of it from the market. I can't speak about the smaller one, but I think it is not as fast or as full featured as its big brother.
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Everything is very smooth, the UI, scrolling, pinch zoom,... Opera is supposed to be hardware accelerated, probably that's why
Swyped from my HTC Sensation

I think Opera on my Galaxy S 1 was smoother than the stock browser on the Sensation. Now, all browsers are not perfect (in fact, it renders the main page for xda forums very incorrectly and unpleasantly, at least as far as color goes, lol) so see if Opera is right for you.

Bernardos70 said:
I think Opera on my Galaxy S 1 was smoother than the stock browser on the Sensation. Now, all browsers are not perfect (in fact, it renders the main page for xda forums very incorrectly and unpleasantly, at least as far as color goes, lol) so see if Opera is right for you.
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gonna try opera in the next few minutes and try to share experience.
Still i gotta say im using the Dolphin HD browser and not the original browser, this is even worse
tried opera now and i must say that it is really a lot smoother then dolphin! Not as smooth as the sgs2 but near already. Only downside is the slow loading performance when loading other pages. Dont know why but dolphin loads pages almost twice as fast.
Damn couldnt be the two just be combined and we could enjoy a really superb browser
Hope theres still some performance optimations lleft for our device

Bernardos70 said:
It's probably not what you want to read, but have you given Opera a try? It is way smoother than the stock browser, at least a far as rendering/scrolling. If you want to give that a try, get the bigger version of it from the market. I can't speak about the smaller one, but I think it is not as fast or as full featured as its big brother.
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Opera mini is great for gprs
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i mostly never had an issue with browser performance on sensation. may be once in a while i will see some delay in loading the page, but that may be due to spotty t-mobile network.

Opera Mini must be the one I used with my Sony Ericsson s710 then, lol. Ah, the good old days of gprs.

lag/scrolling on xda forums

Does any on suffer with the same thing when scrolling on xda forums? Its like the browser can't keep up and all squares appear for a second or so till it finally settles down. Most other websites are the OK although I have noticed it on other ones too. I've tried dolphin browser too but the same thing happens.

Seems like it happens sometimes, but I use XDA Premium

I get this too- parts of the screen will be blank for a second or two, especially when scrolling from quickly from one end to the other. I have the default set to display 50 posts per page- maybe it might be more responsive with less posts.

Thanks for the reply guys. It does seem better on a post like this which only has a couple of reply. I just wondered why it happens on this site and others are OK

it's not only the amounts of posts, but the ads that are everywhere. so far there is no adblocker for the stock browser and adfree is only for rooted devices. lagfree are xda or tapatalk apps.

Ive found a fix... kind of. Switching the theme to classic in user profiles makes the forums much more usable

Browsers defo need a fix. Ive tried miren - fc if you leave the page, dolphin mini not powerfull enough and jumpy, stock is ok but can just close randomly. Im using dolphin hd which is an improvement but even oc and the custom roms dont remedy it completely but definately much much better.
Can only put it down to a bug. My sgs 2 does the same, my gtab done it until the devs sorted it out.
Classic view certainly is better - cheers for that

scottyf79 said:
Browsers defo need a fix. Ive tried miren - fc if you leave the page, dolphin mini not powerfull enough and jumpy, stock is ok but can just close randomly. Im using dolphin hd which is an improvement but even oc and the custom roms dont remedy it completely but definately much much better.
Can only put it down to a bug. My sgs 2 does the same, my gtab done it until the devs sorted it out.
Classic view certainly is better - cheers for that
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I agree it could do with a fix. Tonight I tried my cousins Ipad 1 and although it wasn't perfect it handled this forum better than our dual core tegra machines do. What was even more annoying was Google maps in street map mode was smoother at looking around than ours. Come on Google sort it out!

rob77 said:
Ive found a fix... kind of. Switching the theme to classic in user profiles makes the forums much more usable
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Yeah, changing the style to "XDA Classic" (bottom left) helps a lot.

rob77 said:
Ive found a fix... kind of. Switching the theme to classic in user profiles makes the forums much more usable
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Yeah, changing the style to "XDA Classic" (bottom left) helps a lot.
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nice find, will give it a try!
scottyf79 said:
Browsers defo need a fix. Ive tried miren - fc if you leave the page, dolphin mini not powerfull enough and jumpy, stock is ok but can just close randomly. Im using dolphin hd which is an improvement but even oc and the custom roms dont remedy it completely but definately much much better.
Can only put it down to a bug. My sgs 2 does the same, my gtab done it until the devs sorted it out.
Classic view certainly is better - cheers for that
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have you tried Dolphin for Pad or whatever it's called? There seems to be a tablet version of Dolphin Browser but if I remember correctly it was still beta. should be on the market though.

I prefer to browse xda using Tapatalk, but if you must use a browser for everything I suggest using Opera Mobile. The scrolling in Opera is a little choppy at times, but I almost never get blank areas on the pages while scrolling.
Bear in mind that much of these issues are due to the fact that most webpages these days have way more content and ads than mobile devices are designed to handle. Web developers need to learn to exercise some restraint and simplify their pages. I say stop visiting websites that are bogging down or crashing your device.

Scrolling performance?

I find my S6 doesn't scroll nearly as well as one would expect. It's pretty good in settings and such. But Chrome, Google Play, News+ and Tapatalk are not fluid at all and skip all over. Chrome is probably the worst culprit and I've seen others have switched to the Samsung browser. Has anyone seen any improvement with a factory reset or any other solution? Anyone else feel it should be better? Apologies if this has already been mentioned, I didn't see anything recent. Thanks!

It scrolls great on mine. No issues that I've seen so far. The only thing that's annoying is when I flick a page up/down it comes to a stop quickly, I wish it had more inertia. But it's really smooth overall.

Notice the lag when battery is getting low using Chrome beta or when I have a lot of apps running. I was using Google music connected to a bluetooth speaker and tried using Chrome beta, music was skipping and kept losing connection with the speaker, after clearing apps everything was good then I seriously think it's a ram issue.

pdubcramp said:
I find my S6 doesn't scroll nearly as well as one would expect. It's pretty good in settings and such. But Chrome, Google Play, News+ and Tapatalk are not fluid at all and skip all over. Chrome is probably the worst culprit and I've seen others have switched to the Samsung browser. Has anyone seen any improvement with a factory reset or any other solution? Anyone else feel it should be better? Apologies if this has already been mentioned, I didn't see anything recent. Thanks!
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I don't know if this is an option for you, but I think some issues were introduced by installing the OTA out of the box. If you have the time and wherewithal to re-set up your phone I would recommend restoring your firmware using Samsung Smart Switch. I was getting pretty bad performance out of the box in Chrome/S Browser (many issues reduced with AdAway); however, Iwas noticing much better out of box performance after a system firmware restore. Perhaps something to try if you have the time and energy to do so
Edit: I want to make a distinction between factory restore and firmware update. The firmware update will rewrite the system files negating any effect of a janky OTA flash. A factory restore will not wipe and reset the system partition

Scrolling performance is indeed terrible, especially in Chrome. I don't think any number for factory reset will have any impact on this. Rather, it's a driver thing. Try disabling JavaScript in Chrome and you'll see that it scrolls almost impeccably. Breaks a lot of pages though. Adblock helps too cause it gets rid of those pesky ads. Finally, there's a package to download in the appstore called chrome Samsung compatability or some such, that some people feel improves the scrolling.
It's a sad state of affairs when my friends Galaxy S4 scrolls the same page smoother than my S6. Here's hoping it'll all be fixed via firmware soon.

glad it's not just me that's noticed this - agree hopefully they'll sort soon!

I think Android 5.1 outspeeds Android 5.0.
I have a Nexus 5 and this device is one of the first who gets updates of Google. I noticed a difference in speed and performance (micro-stutter, scrolling) between the 5.0.x and 5.1.x update. The 5.1 update is just more fluid and responsive.
I believe when we have the 5.1 update on our Galaxy S6, speed is beyond perfection!
We just have to wait for now

I've found the Firefox browser is much faster than Chrome and perhaps a bit faster than the Samsung one - still dissappointingly slow though, hopefully they'll resolve soon.

Frankly, I'm surprised more people haven't brought this up as a concern. Benchmarks are meaningless when the experience is dragging like this.

Chrome is not optimized for the S6 and it does have a Java scrips fail when ever a ad comes up(wich is always these days) thats why I use the built in browser wich is lightyears faster and smoother (by much!)then chrome browser.

my gs6 doesnt lag, maybe its because i blocked all the ads with adaway

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Chrome is not optimized for the S6 and it does have a Java scrips fail when ever a ad comes up(wich is always these days) thats why I use the built in browser wich is lightyears faster and smoother (by much!)then chrome browser.
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I'm guessing Google won't rush to optimize its apps for the S6 since Samsung is using an in-house processor? Does that make it harder for developers to get at?

haldi15 said:
my gs6 doesnt lag, maybe its because i blocked all the ads with adaway
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I'd like to avoid rooting for once on this one.

I was playing around with Instagram on an S6 today. Scrolling is noticeably stuttery. I noticed way more dropped frames whilst scrolling down my feed on an S6 than I get on my Nexus 5. My N5 scrolls down an insta feed pretty much flawlessly. Scrolling on the S6 seems way faster than on stock android. Is that a Touchwiz thing?

I was also pretty fed up with Chrome on my S6. Now using UC Browser instead...it is absolutely fantastic. Very fast and smooth scrolling, with many features but still lightweight. Suggest you try it!

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I was also pretty fed up with Chrome on my S6. Now using UC Browser instead...it is absolutely fantastic. Very fast and smooth scrolling, with many features but still lightweight. Suggest you try it!
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Nice, have installed it to try out! Chrome basically useless at present, been using Samsung Browser but happy to try this instead. Shame as I liked having sync with Chrome on my phone.

sm024 said:
I was playing around with Instagram on an S6 today. Scrolling is noticeably stuttery. I noticed way more dropped frames whilst scrolling down my feed on an S6 than I get on my Nexus 5. My N5 scrolls down an insta feed pretty much flawlessly. Scrolling on the S6 seems way faster than on stock android. Is that a Touchwiz thing?
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I don't think it's a Touchwiz thing, I just think there are several apps that haven't been optimized for the phone. However I have no idea what it takes or how difficult it is to optimize an app for different hardware. The stock browser versus Chrome is night and day, for instance.

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Nice, have installed it to try out! Chrome basically useless at present, been using Samsung Browser but happy to try this instead. Shame as I liked having sync with Chrome on my phone.
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Agreed with the syncing...how does the UC Browser compare to the Samsung browser?

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Agreed with the syncing...how does the UC Browser compare to the Samsung browser?
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I think UC Browser is much better but decide for yourself

pdubcramp said:
I don't think it's a Touchwiz thing, I just think there are several apps that haven't been optimized for the phone. However I have no idea what it takes or how difficult it is to optimize an app for different hardware. The stock browser versus Chrome is night and day, for instance.
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So i've been playing around with the phone a little more and i think it might be a TW thing, because scrolling down the settings menu is just as fast. I guess i can understand why there are so many dropped frames when the scrolling is THAT fast!