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Best FREE Push email solution for windows mobile?

I've been searching for a good push setup with gmail, but I cant find anything that is perfect
Free:
SEVEN-Similar to mobipush, supports html email, does not allow to acces other folders than inbox and has to install a separate program on the phone.
mail2web-
cannot change reply-to address, but syncs contacts/tasks also.. it also gives decent battery life. Adds a "sent by mail2web" signature
emoze(web server)-
does not mark read/unread messages, and it does not allow to access other folders than inbox. It also adds a "sent by emoze" signature
Mobipush- does not seem to support HTML messages, does not allow access to folders other than inbox
Windows Live Hotmail- good solution when using hotmail
Pay:
mail2web-
You forward all your current email to a @mail2web.com adress, and it syncs contacts/tasks/calendar/email, this is a really good choice if you decide to pay for push
PushEffect- sends a "hidden" text message to phone, telling it to send/recieve, good solution when not recieving lots of email.
flexmail-not free, interference very buggy, does not allow programs to integrate with built in pOutlook
VGSmail(emansio)- not free, from what I read, this makes the battery drain quick it is imap IDLE,
So could you guys help me create a list of all the solutions that we can use with gmail, and I will write a short review on all of them? (Then I can create a poll)
Now I am using a gmail imap with 15min intervals

I'd recommend MobiPush... I never really was a fan of Push Email, but MobiPush makes things effortless and easy. Try it out.
http://www.mobipush.com

Thanks mobipush seems great... but when I go to the email settings, plain text is selected and grayed out... any ideas?

I used to use VGSmail for my IMAP IDLE. Not sure if it still exists though, been a while. It might be the one to suit your bill

I will try it out tomorow, it looks interesting, it renamed to emansio, it is a pay software thou
What kind of battery life did you get with it?

Here's one you may not have considered. . .
Windows Live Hotmail. . .if you have Windows Live on your PPC, you can set it to have email pushed to your mobile. . .allows for all folders to be seen/accessed. . .real-time push. . .sync contacts with phone. . .full HTML. . .only downside is the text-based ads at the bottom, however, I was so impressed with what I was getting, I figured it was worth 19.95 a year. . .especially when you consider that you can use Windows Live Admin Center to have Hotmail host your domain, thus, all email sent from mobile and from website are the same. . .without the need for the hotmail domain and without the text-based ads at the bottom of every email. What's more the web interface is among the best I've ever used. GMail was way ahead for a long time, but Hotmail is now in the running and for me, the push email was the "push" I needed to make the switch. . .I've played with mail2web (only 4.95 per month for full, but only Exchange 2003. . .Exchange 2007 available, but for $10 more a month), IT Solutions. . .fantastic product, price pretty good at $10 per month, Exchange 2007, but again, why pay $120 a year when I can pay a one time a year fee of $20 and get virtually the same thing. . .FlexMail. . .way buggy and only ate my resources for lunch. . .Emansio/VGS Mail. . .okay, but a battery hog and WAYYYY expensive at approximately $50 for a two year license and it doesn't exactly play nice with WM6. . .MobiPush. . .does it right, but only for inbox and no HTML. . .eMoze. . .works, but you serve as their advertising agent. . .SEVEN. . .does everything right with no ads, but it is beta and subject to disappearing at anytime. . .plus, only allows for inbox and is not very configurable. . .
I said all of that to say this. . .most of the time, you get what you pay for. . .on the other hand, the Hotmail/Windows Live Admin Center/Windows Live For Mobile combo seems to be the best of all worlds at a ridiculously low price in the end. . .

It's all about PushEffect by QoreFunctions. I use it, and it works *perfectly* for me.
The app isn't free, but it is *great* at performing automatic POP logins to download your messages. It is basically a service which checks for an SMS sent by your provider which notifies you of a new e-mail to your phone. What you do is first have your mail server automatically forward your messages to your phone's e-mail account (usually ##yournumber##@your.provider.com). Your provider should then SMS you with a patterned message (i.e. same words used; sent from same service number) and PushEffect will pick this up and go trigger a "Send/Receive" from the accounts you setup in your Pocket Outlook.
If you cannot manipulate your mail server to auto-forward messages to your phone's e-mail, then just set your desktop client to auto-send/receive every 5-10mins and have a rule that FW's it to your phone's e-mail. If using G-Mail, like I believe you are, just go to SETTINGS --> Forwarding and POP/IMAP, and have it "Keep a copy in your G-Mail Inbox"
You can grab the program here:
PushEffect by QoreFunctions (Trial Download)

pcharouz said:
flexmail-not free, interference very buggy, does not allow programs to integrate with built in pOutlook
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Try FlexMail 4, it works really well IMHO, I moved away from Windows Live mail as T-Mobile/M$ started to block it. I now use FlexMail to my GMail apps account and I'm much happier than when I used Windows Live Mail.
http://www.pocketinformant.com/Forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=11593&view=findpost&p=69319

Forgot about. . .
PushEffect. . .awesome if you have unlimited texting or get very few emails a day. . .not so for me. . .in addition, I have a Treo 750 and have NEVER been able to get it to work. . .As for TMobile blocking Live, hadn't heard that before. . .what would they have to gain by doing that? I have AT&T and they removed LIVE from their WM6, but I've found a copy of it that works great!!!

Al66 said:
Try FlexMail 4, it works really well IMHO, I moved away from Windows Live mail as T-Mobile/M$ started to block it. I now use FlexMail to my GMail apps account and I'm much happier than when I used Windows Live Mail.
http://www.pocketinformant.com/Forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=11593&view=findpost&p=69319
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I agree with this. FM4 is amazing. They really polished the application, it's not buggy at all. My only problem is it doesn't update the system mail counter, but because it supports it's own notification system (try it!) it's really not a problem, and may just be better! I find that FM function amazingly close to the mail features of Microsoft Outlook for PC, and is really worth the cost if you need Push Email.

Seven works great for me..

Hands down, Seven is the best I've used yet.
Clean, messages come in HTML, attachments aren't hit with data ceilings etc.
http://community.seven.com/forum/main.php

Thanks for all the input... I will test all of them soon, is there any other FREE alternatives? So far seven seems the best thou
I also fixed the title since nobody focused on gmail...

Seven Is Awesome, But. . .
As I had mentioned earlier, I think SEVEN is quite the fantastic program. My hesitation, however, is rooted in the fact that SEVEN is beta. . .not a reflection on the program's quality, but on its longevity as a "free" solution. In addition, it does have some issues which I haven't been able to get past. First, it's not a true IMAP solution. . .it's an advanced POP polling setup that runs through SEVEN's servers in order to achieve the push effect. . .you WILL get pretty darn fast notification of new email. You will NOT have emails that you delete on your phone deleted on the gmail server. You will also only have access on your phone to things that come into the "inbox". . .meaning that if you wish to move an item in your phone's inbox to another folder, it will not provide the reciprocal movement on the gmail side. The whole point with using gmail in tandem with my WM6 was the fact that it was now IMAP. . .changes made on my phone side were reflected on the gmail side. . .something that is negated when SEVEN is put into the mix.
Just something for you to consider. . . .

bryanbelt said:
As I had mentioned earlier, I think SEVEN is quite the fantastic program. My hesitation, however, is rooted in the fact that SEVEN is beta. . .not a reflection on the program's quality, but on its longevity as a "free" solution. In addition, it does have some issues which I haven't been able to get past. First, it's not a true IMAP solution. . .it's an advanced POP polling setup that runs through SEVEN's servers in order to achieve the push effect. . .you WILL get pretty darn fast notification of new email. You will NOT have emails that you delete on your phone deleted on the gmail server. You will also only have access on your phone to things that come into the "inbox". . .meaning that if you wish to move an item in your phone's inbox to another folder, it will not provide the reciprocal movement on the gmail side. The whole point with using gmail in tandem with my WM6 was the fact that it was now IMAP. . .changes made on my phone side were reflected on the gmail side. . .something that is negated when SEVEN is put into the mix.
Just something for you to consider. . . .
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im pretty sure it deletes emails in my gmail inbox that I delete on the phone only..

I updated the first post with links and separated free/pay, I am using seven right now, and I like it so far.
if anybody has anything to add, or knows of any other solutions pleas speak up! I want to create a poll when I have more of them..
also, could someone please give me a link to windows live?
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sweet, check it out, this post made it to the first place on google...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...Z&q=best+free+push+email+solution&btnG=Search

I tried mobipush it seems good concept but doesnt seem to be too reliable.
using seven but it slows down the pda abit and opening of the pocket outlook. but its quite reliable and fast. am using it via wifi

so far, i like SEVEN the best, but sometimes i have trouble downloading attachements, anybody have the same problem?

I've tried them all and was going to stay with my mail2web solution (with gmail fowarded), but I was getting tired of not having my conversations threaded and having to go into my Gmail account on my pc to mark all the emails that I had already read or deleted. Seven was okay, but seemed to slow my Vogue to a standstill when selecting my email icon. Mobipush wasn't going to work, since it would not keep my contacts, appointments and tasks updated along with my gmail. I tried PushEffect as a last resort and so far it is working very well. I have my gmail set up with imap enabled on my phone and get messages just a few seconds slower than with the mail2web exchange server. The few seconds delay is worth it, as being able to keep my emails synced between my phone and desktop, while keeping my conversations threaded is exactly what I was looking for.
A bonus is that none of it is dependent on a server application like Seven or Mobipush.

This could be a great thread.
I still think it is a shame that the POutlook team didn't really implement more feature to IMAP in it (IDLE and folder mappings).

E-Mail - Internet Pictures Blocked

Hi,
just wondering if there is a tweak for this. I am using my email a lot and I have a message saying
'Internet Pictures Blocked. To protect your privacy, pictures are not automatically downloaded'
Does anyone know of a way around this?
Thanks

I really would like to know this as well...

And me.....

I don't know a way round it but I do know that desktop outlook behaves in the same way. You have to consciously choose to download pictures - I beleive that this feature was brought in to prevent the execution of malicious code that could be hidden inside jpegs.

at least in desktop outlook, you can add domains to the safe sender list....

and on the desktop you can choose an option so it always downloads pictures.
my td2 isnt even showing me the pictures after i press download internet pictures for some reason

i searched alot & found answer: there is no solution for this.

bnm7bnm said:
i searched alot & found answer: there is no solution for this.
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At least this works on WM6.1 for one email, but not for the next to come.
I click on Internet Pictures Blocked, then click on Download Pictures. Then I get the pictures in the email.

BeeGee_Tokyo said:
At least this works on WM6.1 for one email, but not for the next to come.
I click on Internet Pictures Blocked, then click on Download Pictures. Then I get the pictures in the email.
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it works but if you downloaded pictures and closed email next time you need to download same images again... very annoying.
its supposed to be something for security to not download automaticly html pictures but its bs...

bnm7bnm said:
it works but if you downloaded pictures and closed email next time you need to download same images again... very annoying.
its supposed to be something for security to not download automaticly html pictures but its bs...
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That's what internet pictures are. The pic's aren't embedded into the emails, the links to the actual images on the internet are, so the pics need to be shown from their web address on the net everytime you open the email. Same thing happens on the desktop and in all honesty people shouldn't really be sending emails this way, it's annoying and as people have mentioned insecure.
This is not something I want to happen on my device, data plans for mobile phones (esp where I'm from) are pretty nasty and if the images were large in size I could get a really nasty shock. You can set the max limit to dl per email (5k, 10k, 20k etc) but you don't really have this capability with stuff that's hotlinked ot the internet, so I'm guessing for these reasons they're disabled by default.

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That's what internet pictures are. The pic's aren't embedded into the emails, the links to the actual images on the internet are, so the pics need to be shown from their web address on the net everytime you open the email. Same thing happens on the desktop and in all honesty people shouldn't really be sending emails this way, it's annoying and as people have mentioned insecure.
This is not something I want to happen on my device, data plans for mobile phones (esp where I'm from) are pretty nasty and if the images were large in size I could get a really nasty shock. You can set the max limit to dl per email (5k, 10k, 20k etc) but you don't really have this capability with stuff that's hotlinked ot the internet, so I'm guessing for these reasons they're disabled by default.
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me never use data connections only wifi and im sure there are many more so if its not a concern it should be possible...
images saved in some temp folder, there should be way to save these images in other folder and when opening email again, it will look in this folder before trying to download.
strange its not done cause seems ppl here doing much more complex stuff...

Finally figured out how to add to "groups"in contacts

I searched for an answer a few days ago, and didn't find one. I kind of figured out how to do it so I'd figure I'd share with others who didn't know.
I've read how everyone seemed to be pretty frustrated with the groups tab in our contacts and I shared the same frustration because I like to send mass text messages to my employees...
The groups tab only allowed you to add people from your phone memory, and won't let you pull from synced accounts like fb Gmail myspace corporate accts etc.
Like most people on here.... Most of your contacts were synced to your phones... Meaning... You had no contacts in the phone's memory.
so.... Fooling around with my phone tonight, I tried to find a solution...
I found one! Kind of...
When in your contacts.... Hit the menu key, and click on export contacts (to sd).
Once exported to the sd card, click on menu again and click import contacts (from sd).
Be careful not to interrupt the phone as is imports your contacts, or you'll do what I did and stop it halfway and have to do it all over again, causing duplicate phone entries (lots of clutter).
The phone automatically linked most (probably 90%) of the imported contacts with the existing ones.
Now go back to the groups tab, add a group, and add members to the group (now that all of your contacts are now in the phone's memory).
Now for the "kind of" part of my post....
When in the messaging app... When sending a new Group text mssg, Click on groups.... It takes about 8 seconds (seemed like forever, I thought my phone froze) to load the groups... Then when you select the group, you have to individually select the contacts within the group....
Talk about time consuming!
I was hoping that when I clicked on the group, that it would at least automatically select everyone within that group.
So.... Now I gotta figure out how to send a group text with not so many clicks and in a timely manner...

Hey this is great but unfortunately I had my import interrupted part way through also and not all contacts came through. What did you do to clean up after you imported a 2nd time??

You can also use Samsung Kies.i had a100 or so contacts synced with Exchange. I installed Kies. I then synced my contacts to Outlook and back to my phone (errr, something like that). Anyways, it did as you said and linked my contacts, but I went one step further. I then removed my Exchange account to clearall the duplicate contacts, and then setup my Exchange account again without syncing contacts. I hardly every add contacts via Outlook. Usually always done straight to the phone so this works for me as long as I sync every few months.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

bruins6020 said:
Hey this is great but unfortunately I had my import interrupted part way through also and not all contacts came through. What did you do to clean up after you imported a 2nd time??
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i shared the same fustration...
hahaha... all i did was... do the import process all over again
thus creating about 500 duplicates! what a pain!
luckily, the phone automatically links duplicate names...
it just gets really cluttered when you have gmail, fb, myspace, corporate, and phone entries...
the worst part is... the max each person can be linked is w/ 5 accounts...
so when i imported 1 and a half times, i had a few duplicate entries because it exceeded the 5 links/contact.
what a pain... i went through one by one to clean it up... im dooing a letter a day...

[APP][SUGGESTION] Auto E-mailer

So I'd do this myself but haven't made the time to. This is more of a request / suggestion for an application. Basically every time you take a photo or a video the application automatically email's the file to any email's you entered into the application. I'm sure its possible since the photo bucket application can upload new photos automatically.
In case you are not aware of why this is useful, basically every photo and video service can accept emails for uploading. Like flickr, facebook, even youtube.
So the program should check the camera's default folder (which should be able to be set in the program) one for new videos and one for new photos. And then use two input fields one for email addresses for new photos and one for addresses for new videos, and then send an email (with some default tags, titles, etc, also able to be set in the program). Then of course you can go through the photos when you get home.
Anyhow if anyone wants to work on this or thinks its a good idea, let me know.

[Q] Attaching file to emails

Long time WM user, fairly new WP7.5 user.
Love the platform and for the most part, don't miss WM at all.
Except, I used to be able to attach files to my emails like MP3 and Wav files but I have yet to see a way to do that under WP7.5.
I have searched and scrolled through this section to see if I could find something however nothing really addressed the question. Based on some of the threads I read, it looks like this cannot be done.
Can it? Does anyone know if it is coming out in a relase fix?
Thanks,
Rick

The EmailComposeTask class does not support attachments which is ridiculous and it's been a long time complaint. Microsoft doesn't seem to bothered by it and I haven't heard anything about them supporting it. I think it's part of their strategy to get devs to start using the cloud more.
Just noticed this wasn't the developer forum. My post is development related and doesn't really apply to question.

I agree about the cloud but you still need to be able to send a link in an expeditious way. Openning windowslive and finding the folder/file and then specifying share and sending an email is a PIA.
I do like the cloud for my contacts and other stuff since it is not taking space on my phone. I like it until I travel into the boonies of Texas and want to make a call but the contact list is not there cause there is not connection to 4G, 3G but to whatever was there before God created cell phones. Not looking forward to that day.

For most things it is done under the application. For example, in office word, you can hit share and choose the email account. Same within most apps. Zune though does not have this option. probably because your not supposed to pirate them to your friends.

Yet more prof that Windows Phone sucks and Windows Mobile still rules. What a damn shame. I tried to email someone and attach my resume but couldn't I had to go through the stupid office hub to do it, what a bunch of B.S. And they wonder why their sales suck ass.

ROCOAFZ said:
For most things it is done under the application. For example, in office word, you can hit share and choose the email account. Same within most apps. Zune though does not have this option. probably because your not supposed to pirate them to your friends.
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You're not trying to imply that I would send MP3's that are illegal are you?
Just kidding.
Actually they are my own files and sometimes ring tones that I created and want to share.
As for the resume email... kind of hard to attach a file to an email when it is not located on your phone. I am liking the fact that the cloud has the files and not the phone. There just needs to be a simple way to access and send it. Like Sinister1, I would prefer to have it attached to an email that I authored like we have been doing every since email allowed attachments rather than going to the file on the cloud and sharing it with an individual.

Is there any way to extract files from our phones and store them in Dropbox or Skydrive? for example pdf files or mp3.

Office files will sync on SkyDrive, or if opened on the phone (from email or web) can be saved to SkyDrive or to the phone itself. In either case, you can then send them as attachments (but only that one file at a time) in email.
Sadly, though, that's the only way I know of to send email attachments other than pictures. Microsoft really needs to either add the API for attachments, or they need to allow Outlook Mobile to open files from the public parts of your phone.
Irony-mode: Zune (the hardware, all the way fromt he HD to the original 30GB model) allowed sending files by WiFi - a feature MS has not bothered to add to WP7 even though I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be difficult (both run on some variant of CE, both have WiFi, the HD even used a touch interface similar to the phone...). Instead, forget sending music, forget sending video, and you can barely send a Word doc!

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Office files will sync on SkyDrive, or if opened on the phone (from email or web) can be saved to SkyDrive or to the phone itself. In either case, you can then send them as attachments (but only that one file at a time) in email.
Sadly, though, that's the only way I know of to send email attachments other than pictures. Microsoft really needs to either add the API for attachments, or they need to allow Outlook Mobile to open files from the public parts of your phone.
Irony-mode: Zune (the hardware, all the way fromt he HD to the original 30GB model) allowed sending files by WiFi - a feature MS has not bothered to add to WP7 even though I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be difficult (both run on some variant of CE, both have WiFi, the HD even used a touch interface similar to the phone...). Instead, forget sending music, forget sending video, and you can barely send a Word doc!
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Is there another way to extract pdfs, zips or mp3s of our phones even through data cable?

My PDF files are adding up. Whenever I open up Adobe reader, the files are pilling up. I know I can press and hold on any one of them and delete the file but some I want on my PC and this just is too funky.

@Rickgig, what phone do you have? Some WP7 devices are able to use apps that will access the phone and move/copy/transfer files.
Alternatively, don't you have other copies of those PDFs? I mean, they got onto the phone from somewhere, so wouldn't it be easier to get them from there? Then you could safely delete the unneeded ones off the phone.

GoodDayToDie said:
@Rickgig, what phone do you have? Some WP7 devices are able to use apps that will access the phone and move/copy/transfer files.
Alternatively, don't you have other copies of those PDFs? I mean, they got onto the phone from somewhere, so wouldn't it be easier to get them from there? Then you could safely delete the unneeded ones off the phone.
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I have a Titan with AT&T.
You're right... I can get them from someplace else. They are mostly menu's from restaurants but then they are business documents too. I have since learned to upload them from my PC to Skydrive and access them there.
There's a work around for everything I just wanted some of the WM features to be here. Like the file that prompted me to start this thread in the first place. My son did some work on his car and took a short video of the results and MMS'd to me. I can forward it to others but that is about it. Can't save it, can't email it to myself... if I deleted the text thread, it's gone.