The premier information site for homebrew and hacking on webOS devices is at:
http://www.webos-internals.org/
It is a community-maintained wiki, and hackers are welcome and indeed encouraged to post new legally-obtained information there by creating a new wiki page and linking it into the existing site at the appropriate place.
If you have a webOS device already, you can download the Preware Homebrew Documentation application from the official app catalog (yes, Palm allows documentation of how to hack your device in the official app catalog). That will show you how to install Preware, and get access to thousands of homebrew applications, themes, OS patches and custom overclocking kernels. In the help section of that app is a comprehensive list of sites for webOS users to access community assistance.
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A lot of the homebrew packages are built from source code released at
http://git.webos-internals.org/
Hackers will find source code there for custom webOS services that run as root, and for overclocking kernel patches. Everything there is open source, to be built upon by other developers.
Note that all of the above is done without breaking any copyright laws or illegally redistributing proprietary copyright material. It would be good to keep it that way. Time will tell how what conventions of legality are enforced by the moderators on these new XDA webOS forums.
-- Rod Whitby
-- WebOS Internals Founder and Project Lead
Thanks!!!!!!!!!! GOOD!
WebOS on xda
I think this will be a boon to the Palm-faithful and a needed gateway for those new to Palm.
Thanks.
Hopefully this new sub-forum brings new developer attention to WebOS. I feel like it really is an under-appreciated platform. I would love to see how far people can take the OS.
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I feel like it really is an under-appreciated platform.
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It is, for sure. It's like that great band that everyone knows, but you never hear it on the radio. I'm counting on it to take off with the release of new hardware, in the usability department it's really second to none. Add openness and all the goodness of a real linux platform and you get a rockin platform.
unknownrebelx said:
I feel like it really is an under-appreciated platform.
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Mostly by Palm IMO. People generally love the platform, but I can't blame anyone for not wanting to buy this terrible hardware. ANd while the UI on WebOS is great, Palm still has work to do when it comes to getting things like battery life right.
I just wish they would have put WebOS on something like the Galaxy S II. 1650mah battery, giant beautiful screen, super fast hardware. It would just be perfect, but instead they choose to put it on tiny little novelty phones that while cool, are useful for little more than making jokes about.
drizek said:
Mostly by Palm IMO. People generally love the platform, but I can't blame anyone for not wanting to buy this terrible hardware. ANd while the UI on WebOS is great, Palm still has work to do when it comes to getting things like battery life right.
I just wish they would have put WebOS on something like the Galaxy S II. 1650mah battery, giant beautiful screen, super fast hardware. It would just be perfect, but instead they choose to put it on tiny little novelty phones that while cool, are useful for little more than making jokes about.
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Oh, come on, keep your whining to yourself. This thread is called "WebOS Internals homebrew and hacking resources", not, "I want to complain and whine".
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Hey everyone!
I am curious as to if anyone has checked out MarketPlace and if there is a current WinMo6.5 ROM open to the public or otherwise that has MarketPlace build in?
I must have MarketPlace asap!!!!!!!!
I appreciate all the questions and taltin shoulfe
I think this Opinion Piece says it all... Requires WM 6.5 ??
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Pocket PC Talk (http://forums.thoughtsmedia.com/f322/)
Windows Mobile Marketplace: For Unicorns Only (http://forums.thoughtsmedia.com/f322/windows-mobile-marketplace-unicorns-only-93202.html)
by Jason Dunn 04-01-2009 11:00 PM
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Marketplace is going to be for Windows Mobile 6.5 phones only, not back-ported to Windows Mobile 6.1 and 6.0 phones. That's right - the millions and millions of Windows Mobile phones out there today (40+ million I'd say in the past few years alone) will not have access to this forthcoming software directory. Only people that buy brand new phones, or perhaps a tiny percentage that will get a 6.5 upgrade for their phone, will be able to access this. They might as well made it available only to unicorns - both are mythical at this moment in time.
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... Apple made the App Store available to not only new iPhone 3G owners, but first-generation iPhone owners, and owners of both first and second generation iPod Touch owners. For developers, that means millions and millions of customers that are only a few taps away from trying, and buying, their software. Overnight millionaires were made by the Apple App Store because Apple put it in front of so many customers at once. This is the right way to do it.
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... They finally get around to doing an application store after an early effort got deep-sixed by their own corporate culture, and what do they do? They make the choice to limit it to users of phones that haven't even been made yet - with Windows Mobile 6.5 not due on phones until Q4 of this year, and with phone networks (in North America at least) carrying seemingly fewer and fewer Windows Mobile phones than ever, it seems like the Windows Mobile Marketplace is going to have a rocky start. ... This was Microsoft's best chance to woo developers back into the fold, and they've botched it - badly.
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Gizmodo's overview.
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And a snip from Microsoft.com's current "Mobile Catalog"
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Lastly, some of you may know that an XDA-user initiated a WindowsMobile Apps store some time ago, codenamed "Gecko" (an unfortunate name they just wont give up, despite it heavily branded connected to Mozilla's web rendering engine that's been around for years)
Gecko Development Website
XDA Thread
I followed this for a while, and there was UI development from various contributors, as well as underlying code. Not sure where it stands.
d474rpr said:
Hey everyone!
I am curious as to if anyone has checked out MarketPlace and if there is a current WinMo6.5 ROM open to the public or otherwise that has MarketPlace build in?
I must have MarketPlace asap!!!!!!!!
I appreciate all the questions and taltin shoulfe
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I appreciate all the wonderful information but I'm not looking for it in a consumer capacity. I already have 6.5 loaded and running and would like to see the WinMob Market Place as a "research project", for lack of better words.
I'm not sure I quite understand what you mean by research project?
Since your on the Wing, check out my website! Link in my signiture right below this.
I really want to embrace Android tablets in general and the Asus Eee Pad Transformer in particular, but I'm really on the fence here. You definitely get more hardware bang for your buck than with iPad, and I appreciate the relatively open ecosystem and freedom from iTunes. However, what really frustrates me is the apparent lack of tablet-optimized apps. If I'm shelling out $500+ for a device, should I really have to scour the web for lists of apps that run on it in tablet mode? I definitely see the allure of the iPad with its slick user experience, despite its closed ecosystem.
I know, I know, Android Honeycomb is new and there will be optimized apps for it, but a successful tablet experience is more than just the hardware, and many, if not most, users won't want to buy an expensive tablet for its potential, they want something that works now, with easy access to apps that they can trust will work on their device. It's a chicken-and-egg story, really: without Android tablets becoming more popular, dedicated apps will lag behind, but without the apps, will Android tablets really take off and be a serious competitor to iPad?
</rant> ;-)
Thoughts?
Ron (wanting to buy an Android tablet, but being wooed by iPad 2)
There were no tablet applications for iPad at the beginning either (and phone apps are mostly worse on iPad than on Android tablets because they don't scale). You have to wait until developers get their hands on tablets - right now only Xoom and Transformer (sort of) are out.
Just like everything else that's new...
Blueray didn't have very many Blueray DVDs on the market the during it's inception.
HDTV as well. I was quite dissappointed to have bought a new HDTV when most of what I was watching was only available in non-HD.
But anyone developing software will for the most part follow the money trail. Ipad has been the #1 choice, but it is very apparent that Android tablets are catching up quickly. And when the market trends change to favor Android tablets, then so will the development base.
There are only a handful of apps that are really useful and the rest is the Android tablet experience and the community that encompasses it.
They didn't name Apple's hack "Jailbreak" for no reason.
dutch_in_seattle said:
what really frustrates me is the apparent lack of tablet-optimized apps.
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Yeah: when you start downloading apps and find they all apparently work and look fine you think what a load of BS there is being talked about
dutch_in_seattle said:
I definitely see the allure of the iPad with its slick user experience
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there is nothing slick about a boring experience, and ipads are boring to use, with rows of apps that you can scroll from side to side and when you click on them they open! boring ,boring, boring, outdated and getting more outdated by the minute.
I think IOS is about the same that android 0.5 was back in 1941
I have a Xoom and have had it since launch day. Trust me, we have already come a long way with tablet apps and compatibility. Day 1, I think there were around 10. New ones are released almost daily and developers are announcing that they are working on others. By this time next year there will be so many, you will not be able to easily decide which ones to install
You can help expedite tablet optimized apps by writing the developer of your favorite Android app and requesting an update. You may be surprised that many of them will respond to you that they are already working on it.
So, I'm a graphic designer by trade and while working on expanding my portfolio, I started thinking about an app concept. Slowly I worked out the concept for a honeycomb app, this included UI, functions, visual identity, uses, targeted user base. The main idea was to create an app that was both visually appealing and useful since most android apps around frankly look like ****.
Now what I'm looking for is a dev to translate this concept into an actual app since I'm a lowly designer and my programming experience doesn't go beyond jQuery. Now for all I care the dev interested can sell it or distribute it for free, all I want is credit for the design and initial concept.
Now because of this I'm not going to just post the idea for the app here since I put a lot of time and effort into it, but any dev willing to help can PM me and I'll give detailed information. I must tell you that it is a relatively simple app.
Also to prove I am not just talking out of my ass,
here's the logo design:
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and here is a screenshot of a part of the app:
I must note again that I'm not looking for profit or money, just credit.
EDIT: please fix the title.
bump to the top.
Hello, hope you been getting some responses. Can you at least let us in on what kind of program it might be? Just curious.
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Hello, hope you been getting some responses. Can you at least let us in on what kind of program it might be? Just curious.
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I have gotten 2 responses, and it's a productivity app aimed at people who enjoy drawing.
And no it is not a drawing app.
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that logo looks like a electrostatic tablet pen for drawing. I'm guessing you're trying to make a tablet driver for Honeycomb?
Or, probably you're tying to make a simulated pressure sensitive drawing application with one thumb on that slider on the side controlling brush size.
boodies said:
Hello, hope you been getting some responses. Can you at least let us in on what kind of program it might be? Just curious.
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From the Logo, I thought it was smoking related... like smoking a big ole reefer or something.
In all seriousness, if I may critique the logo. The colors are working great as red black and white always seem to harmonize nicely.
What I think could work better is if you got rid of some of that negative... actually empty space around the stylus. In other words, crop in closer to the actual tool. It will put much more emphasis on your focal point, the pen.
Also fix the sinuous lines coming off the tip. Right now, it looks as if you're tyring to illustrate smoke.
I think those are the only issues that I personally see. Good luck and keep us posted~
I've written a blog post about my thoughts about Thunderbolt development and XDA forums. It's somewhat inflammatory, but I offer a few suggestions on how things can be better.
Full disclosure: I'm a sysadmin and an OSS developer. I haven't contributed to Android development but I do contribute in several OSS projects.
I personally like Xda and the community it has. The devs put in alot of hard work for free to the rest of us.
I do too - however, it can be made better for aspiring developers. My perception is that if you want to contribute code to these ROM projects, it's nearly impossible to get started, ignoring everything that anyone would have to learn about the Linux kernel and Android SDK.
I've written a blog post about my thoughts about Thunderbolt development and XDA forums. It's somewhat inflammatory, but I offer a few suggestions on how things can be better.
Full disclosure: I'm a sysadmin and an OSS developer. I haven't contributed to Android development but I do contribute in several OSS projects.[/QUOTE]
No flames from me. While I like xda, all your points are valid and if anything you ignored some of the worst parts...e.g. Flaming, lack of respect, and other things that I see more often than I'd like when they aren't really warrented.
That said, ive seen much worse on other foss mailing lists, but at least in those cases its about code, not people.
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So you want ROM threads to have a few posts only by the developer and have developers respond to emails to help users? Some developers enjoy helping others hence why they distribute their work for free and spend the time to make posts. The other questions are answered by other members who know how to resolve issues to a point. The fact you use that as a reason this site "sucks" is simply ridiculous. But that's just my opinion just like you gave your opinion.
I do agree with the CM7 issue to an extent. It shouldn't be on one man who has a job and a big family. Others should be helping and the code for everything should be available for others in the community to help get it finished and ready for final release. But with that said he is doing quite a lot and for one man he has done quite well IMO.
Seriously?
You try to start an intentional flame war with a hot topic that's been beaten like a dead horse and then write a blog post (presumably on your own blog because I'm not giving you traffic by clicking on it) so you can get free traffic by link baiting and most likely free ad revenue from it. Pathetic.
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This thread in no way contributes anything useful, other than driving traffic to your blog.
If you have any suggestions for xda, post in THIS thread.
Hello, I don't really know if it's all right to post this kind of thread here but I haven't been able to find any other forum that seems like the proper place for my thread. I'd like to say sorry in advance if I have indeed posted in the wrong section.
Anyhow, me and a friend are working on a set of apps and a slightly modified android rom as our IT project this year. We are hoping to win a prize in the local competition which will be held here in Bosnia on 23rd of next month and then hopefully make our way to some international competitions.
I'd like to quickly go over our project.
HIVE OS is an "operating system" based on android for usage in school tablets. It contains some pre-installed applications such as: Notebooks, Books, Drawings... It synchronizes users' documents with the cloud allowing users to access their files from their personal phones, tablets, computers, etc...
As the competition draws closer we have started with writing academic papers such as the research paper. Some stats are required in a research paper. Some testing and data analysis. Thus, as a member of this forum I thought that I could get some interested people's opinions, let them test the apps and collect their feedback...
If you are interested in testing Notebooks, Books and Drawings apps and helping us with our data collection you can download attached apps and once you are done with your testing you can submit your feedback by filling the form over at feedback website.
Some points to keep in mind:
1 .We are 2 high school 3rd year guys. Our experience with android programming is pretty fresh. My friend only launched ADT for the first time as he began this project, whereas, I, even though I had launched it before hadn't been able to produce anything useful.
2. As these apps are intended for tablets, we didn't really put any special effort in trying to make them fit every screen (smaller screens). They should be fine on devices with screen similar to the one of the nexus 4 and higher...
3. Books app requires at least a single book to be present under /HIVE/Books in your sdcard. Otherwise, it will look empty. This is because these apps are supposed to receive their material by means of synchronization. I'll be attaching a zip file (Introduction to Trigonometry.zip) to extract there but if you end up having problems and can't make the app show a book, please skip books app in the feedback form. Thank you for your understanding.
Another note is that we hope you'll go easy on us. As I already mentioned, we are pretty new into android development. The data collected from the forms are going to be used in the academic side of things. Those who know will probably understand... It won't hurt if you give a 4 where you actually think it deserves a 3. We don't want to have graphs which will make it look like our apps suck.
Of course, this doesn't mean that you should go with all 5s. Fill the forms the way you think, but we'd be happy if you didn't give a lot of 1s and 2s...
Thank you for your understanding on this as well.
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Thank you all who give feedback and opinions once again!
Awesome..
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Uploaded fixed Drawings apk