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Help me pick new smartphone!

Right now I have a T-Mobile dash, known as HTC Excalibur. I do llike the phone, however I have had it for three years and I just found out that the USB port on the phone looses contact and makes the phone difficult to charge.
I want to get another HTC smartphone running Windows Mobile, with Querty Keyboard. The phone must be able to sync to ms Outlook, and read/edit ms Word & Excel files. Also the phone MUST run off a SIM card.
Just by looking around this site, phones which come to my mind are; Blue Angel, Wizard, Hermes, Herald, Kaiser, Titan, Raphael, Wings...
I was looking around and I can get HTC Wizard for $140 on ebay. Is the wizard a good phone or should I look elsewhere? I dont want to spend more than $150...
I appreciate any inoput...

Don't get a Wizard at all, get at least a Tytn or Tytn II.

slick69 said:
Don't get a Wizard at all, get at least a Tytn or Tytn II.
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I just got T-mobile G1, wasnt bad for $160 new from the store...
So far I am very happy with it...

Let us know how u like the G1 3G? I'm waiting on the tmob Touch Pro2 due in July...

Love my G1, even more so with the custom ROMs available as it has made the mobile much more complete. When it was originally released it felt rushed but everyone knew it had potential to improve and grow, due to the nature of Android - And boy has it done that!
Everything has improved from responsiveness, battery life, quality applications, louder external and internal volume for calls, A2DP support for Bluetooth stereo headsets, video recording, vastly improved camera software and more. The only thing that's missing (which is currently being developed) is Bluetooth OBEX support so users can finally send and receive files via Bluetooth.
As soon as that's implemented it will be the most complete smartphone I've ever used.

galaxys said:
Let us know how u like the G1 3G? I'm waiting on the tmob Touch Pro2 due in July...
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The G1 is awesome, just that awesome... It was well worth the $160 I spend on it...

Blackstone or Hero

Blind as I am :
Can the Blackstone & Hero be compared?
Which is better?
Can either of these phones be bought & used in Florida?
Is there another carrier besides ATT & Sprint either can be used with?
Thank you.

I'd definately go with the Hero if you don't plan on watching long movies on the screen. And with the upcoming ROM update from HTC most of the lag will be gone.

Appreciate that but is the Hero out & what carrier carrier? Thanks this is important.

Well you can buy both for at&t unlocked but the catch is with both you'll be restricted to EDGE speeds since they both dont have NA 3G bands. Strictly based on preference I'd say Hero, but on multimedia go with the HD.

I use 3G, been to 4G, need it for the web , email, w/some phone. Think any one else will carry it? Where can it be purchased? Hey Thanks for this.

@antrak: Just wanted to know, why is the hero not good for watching long movies?

Well the Hero is for sure coming to sprint, Verizon will be getting the whitestone (both just cleared the FCC) which has more powerful specs than the current blackstone so that'll solve the 3G issue. If both aren't an option and you're staying on at&t then check out
http://www.expansys.com/smartphone
http://cell-phones.shop.ebay.com/Ce...uch+hd&_catref=1&_fln=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m282
http://cell-phones.shop.ebay.com/i...._dmpt=Cell_Phones&_odkw=touch+hd&_osacat=3312

Hey sorry for not reading all the threads , just did, I'm with AT&T with my PC, I have this Omnia w/Verizon which is going to end before the 30 days. Where is this info that the Whitestone is going to TMO?

Check out these engadget articles

Thanks for that it looks like I'm going to have to sign out of Verizon & sign back in when the Whitestone arrives, guess I'm going to have to pay more att. to engadget.

Hey that Whitestone is the Touch Diamond 2!!! You mean that's finally on its way here? Yay, geesh I forgot about that one. Now it comes down to the Leo or the TD2. Patiently I wait... Thanks Man!

From OP original question.
I prefer Blackstone because WM.
Android needs to grow up more to be a really mature OS, perhaps in the near future, but not now...
Just my opinion.

Blackstone, Hero, Cliq or the "Leo"
Patiently waiting I now see the Leo & the Cliq. Do you have any info for a newer choice regarding these phones?
Personaly the Leo is one I have been waiting for the longest, I have no cell at the moment & I hope you send another reply. Thanks

cscoot03 said:
Patiently waiting I now see the Leo & the Cliq. Do you have any info for a newer choice regarding these phones?
Personaly the Leo is one I have been waiting for the longest, I have no cell at the moment & I hope you send another reply. Thanks
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The real question is if you want android or windows mobile?
With,
Verizon you can get the Whitestone(CDMA Diamond2) when it comes out or the Touch Pro2. Both have a large 3.6 inch WVGA screen.
Sprint you can the Hero when it comes out next month or the Touch Pro2.
AT&t you can get the Diamond2 and TouchPro2 when they come out by the end of the year.
The unlocked Hero from Europe or the Blackstone can work on AT&T and T-Mobile, but have no 3g. So your stuck on edge, and that means slow internet speeds.
I would get the Whitestone or the Touch Pro2 cause they have 3g and have better specs then the Blackstone. If you want Android, and want the Hero(GSM). Get the Sprint Hero for the 3g.
As for the Leo, yes it's great. But no one knows when its coming out or where. So you might have to wait a while. And if it doesn't come to the US like the Blackstone did, you could pay a good penny for an non 3g phone.

In answer. No ATT,No Sprint, Verizon what do they have,nothing. KB with the TP2 I'm not crazy about,(seems bulky, had the Touch Pro, KB cramped) The D2 well having only virtual worries me. You see I'm kind of used to a touchscreen & KB since I've been with Sprint & had 6 of the 8 Palms up to the Pre.
I would like a large screen & the Leo with it's screen, but being virtual, I think I could adapt.
Wi/Fi mandatory, good battery a must. At least 3G speed (Rev A).
The D2 seemed nice with its large screen but the Leo does it one better.
Android is getting better but I've been with Windows for a while yet I do google.
So what do you think by my reply?
Hey Thanks for what you wrote.

BGR does a fine job letting us see & read reports on new phones. Here is where Leo's picture came from & the best review with the Diamond 2. I think the virtual KB is improving, so acceptable. If 'they' would devolop a dual OS I'd snap that up in a minute (as long as is has a large enough screen).
4G is now made, so if having to wait until 2010 I'll have no choice.

Successor to htc touch pro2

As we have seen and heard all about the new HTC HD2, most of us really like this phone or love this phone. We want this phone for our own likes. Some like it for the looks, some like it just because it is the latest and greatest, some like it but want it to have a keyboard, and there are the ones that agree with all these reasons and more. Well here is another HTC phone that we can all talk about and send an E-Mail to [email protected] asking for SPRINT TO GET THIS PHONE! http://htcpedia.com/news/hd3-is-goin...-the-line.html Check this phone out and yu decide for yourself on how much you WANT this latest phone from HTC to come to SPRINT. Send an E-Mail to [email protected] telling him how much and how bad you want this phone, and wether or not you also would like it with or without a keyboard. We had a choice between the HTC TOUCH PRO & HTC TOUCH DIAMOND. Now we have a choice between the HTC TOUCH PRO2 & will later be able to also choose the HTC TOUCH DIAMOND2. If SPRINT can get the HTC HD2 & HTC HD2 PRO from HTC because enough of their customers are asking for these, then it also would be that we can have SPRINT convince HTC to manufacture both the HTC HD3 & HTC HD3 PRO. So, again I say let's all send an E-Mail to [email protected] telling him that we SPRINT CUSTOMERS WANT THESE PHONES!

But I don't want these phones. I just got my Touch Pro 2. I'm a wierdo in that I don't buy a new phone every 3 weeks in order to keep up with the latest and greatest. At some point I have to call it quits and stick with whatever it is I have for a while. If they build it, I will not come.
Another issue is that I very seriously doubt that emails left with some Sprint exec are going to convince HTC to build the HTC NON-AMATEUR HD-12 or whatever it is you want them to invent.

I am glad that you read this post. You are entitled to your opinion. What you don't realize is that we can talk to these people and if enough of us do that, then they will talk to the manufacture in responce to the mass requests from the customers "US" who are the reason for them to have their jobs and also to justify their positions.

Anyone that has an opinion about this matter wether positive or negitive is entitled to let that be heard. So, everyone please post your opinion here. If you agree with me, then just send an E-Mail to [email protected] and also let him know what you think. The people who disagree, you can also send an E-Mail and explain why you don't want that phone.

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gd761 said:
What you don't realize is that we can talk to these people and if enough of us do that, then they will talk to the manufacture in responce to the mass requests from the customers "US" who are the reason for them to have their jobs and also to justify their positions.
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What you don't seem to realize, besides the fact that spelling things correctly is likely to make a better impression upon those executives you're trying to convince, are several factors:
- There is no evidence that Sprint has ever really listened to their user base irrespective of how vociferous or well-grounded their howls of protest may be. See, for example, the 21,352 threads about Windows Mobile 6.5 on the Touch Pro 2. Other examples include many months of disabled GPS on the Mogul, and so on.
- An executive who gets even several hundred emails requesting a particular extant device may very well presume that those represent a majority of everyone who wants it. They need to sell way more than that. The exec will listen to the company's research department, not emails.
- Emails demanding that one company somehow force another company to create and manufacture a device that does not currently exist are simply not going to carry any weight at all. At a level where developing a device costs millions, that's not how businesses work.
In short, I think this is, like every other internet petition, a complete and utter waste of time.
Worse, it distracts from current real issues with the phones we actually have in our hands. I'm not personally convinced that, for example, a letter-writing campaign about the broken Bluetooth on the Touch Pro 2, will do any good at all. However, it's a real problem with a real device for which we've paid real money and which has real consequences for for the day-to-day usability of the devices. Some would argue that it violates the implied contract of usability ("it has Bluetooth!") made when we bought the phones, since many people are unable to hang up through Bluetooth, obviating any real utility to the feature.
Any energy devoted to writing emails to Sprint execs would be better-spent asking them to live up to their obligations with respect to devices they're currently selling rather than non-existent devices that, based on past experience, they'll break and never fix in the future.

The sucessor to MY Touch Pro 2 must have Windows Mobile 7 out of the box and the speed to run it.

msh441 said:
The sucessor to MY Touch Pro 2 must have Windows Mobile 7 out of the box and the speed to run it.
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What? For some reason you harbor some doubt that if Sprint sells it with 6.5 with a promise of an upgrade they might not provide such an upgrade?

mstevens said:
But I don't want these phones. I just got my Touch Pro 2. I'm a wierdo in that I don't buy a new phone every 3 weeks in order to keep up with the latest and greatest. At some point I have to call it quits and stick with whatever it is I have for a while.
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I've owned the Motorola Select 2000e (literally the size of a brick), Motorola Timeport, Motorola Rizr z3, HTC Herald (Wing), HTC Touch Pro 2. Don't think I didn't want the devices in between them, but I agree, I'm eyeballing the HTC HD2 with double the horsepower of the Touch Pro 2 and God knows what the folks here on XDA will dream up for it but at some point you have to jump in with both feet and accept the reality like buying a PC the moment you do, your device is an instant relic. We also have to face the reality that whether contract, no contract and/or unlocked it won't be cheap. Yes, T-Mobile reduced the price of the TP2 from $349.99 to $269.99 to pave the way for the HD2 but at what cost. At what cost to any device as we move forward?
I have screen protectors, "Body Gloves" and 8GB memory cards; if I can't sell my devices in mint condition on eBay or Craigslist for what I paid for my devices I'll cry!!! I can sell my TP2 for $300; good luck selling my Dell Axim for even a $100.
Okay, the Snapdragon is twice as fast as my device, but what does that mean; twice as fast at what; opening my emails or my programs? I play Chess; now the day they make a program which I can give voice commands and type a document "vocally" as fast I type on a keyboard; then let's talk! Until then, I pout at what might have been.

I'm glad to see that there are both sides of this issue being discussed. I had also originally started out with a brick for a phone and had went smaller and smaller until the idea of using the phone for more than just making phone calls. I had the original HTC TOUCH and was happy with it for a while. I had quickly got very tired of using the onscreen keyboard, and wished that I could get a keyboard. I started looking for a new phone. The HTC TOUCH PRO was what I was going to get for an upgrade, so while I was waiting for the date that I could upgrade my phone I had found the HTC TOUCH PRO2 and really loved what I saw. At the time when I saw this, it was not even released from HTC anywhere. What I saw was leaked to the internet. there were people who also did not believe that would make it's way to market, but here it is. While waiting for my upgrade date, I had upgraded my wifes phone to the HTC TOUCH PRO. She was totally against that, but I did that for her anyway. Now she just loves it and can not live without having a keyboard on her phone. I told ter that I was going to upgrade my HTC TOUCH and she was not too happy with that, but once she had gotten used to her new phone, she was not against that idea except for one thing, the price. I told her that she did not have to worry since I would pay for it all from my side money, so then she was in agreement. My HTC TOUCH had quite a few problems with freezing and random rebooting, and some times I had to pull the battery to reboot it when it froze up. Then I had to have it replaced because it would not stop a continous loop of starting and shutting down, even if I had tried to do a hard reset. The second replacement would also do random reboots, but only once in a while no matter what, wether I was online or on a call. I was happy with getting rid of that phone. The very first day that the HTC TOUCH PRO2 became available from SPRINT, I had called and ordered it. I still have the original ROM on my phone and I have n

I still have the original ROM on my phone from SPRINT and I have not had the problems that most people are complaining about. I have downloaded some things to my phone to tweak it a little and to add eye candy. I use everything on my phone that it came with and what I downloaded except for 2 things, SPRINT TV & SPRINT MUSIC. I have no need for either of them at all. I download music and video's to my 16GB card and I stream video to my phone from my SLING BOX PRO. On average I stream anywhere between 10GB & 15GB of data every month. There are some things that I can not stand that ALL of the US carriers had requested from HTC. They had all requested that there be no FRONT FACING CAMERA, and that the FM RADIO be either disabled in the GSM modles and when the ROM for the CDMA models be written, that they wish for it to be excluded. They had ALL did this, so they can later SELL us their CRAP that we should have gotten just like the EUROPIAN & ASIAN models got right out of the box. According to HTC, they said that the carriers customers did NOT want those features. We know that is a load of crap. So, as I say LET'S STAND UP AND TELL AND DEMAND WHAT WE WANT! We don't have to just sit back and wait for whatever just happens to come our way. So, who ever your carrier is wether it be AT&T, SPRINT, T-MOBILE, or VERIZON, call them and speak up and be heard. If enough of us do just this, they will listen. That's why the HTC HD2 will be coming to the US and to T-Mobile first, because enough of us spoke up loud enough for us to be heard. So till nex time.......

gd761 said:
As we have seen and heard all about the new HTC HD2, most of us really like this phone or love this phone.
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TMO exclusive in the US.

[Q] Best prepared phone for Mango

I currently have a Pre 2 which in itself is a fantastic phone has alot of cool things going for it. thing is im a bit of an app geek really didnt release until i went to webOS with limited number of apps.
I am very short on cash and am tied down to a contract for another 20 months after firstly upgrading and selling my phone to get a pre. Now i wanna have a WP7 but i no for a fact i wont be able to afford a new device.
SO question is what current WP7 is best prepared to update to Mango?
Just to let u no i have a hate relationship with Samsung!
Any advice would be appreciated otherwise im sticking with the pre 2 :-(

Any and all. All WP7 phones will be getting the Mango update!

i am aware that alll current windows phone 7 will be getting the mango update but which current device will best suit mango is what i was trying to say.
i am aware that all current wp7 are pretty similar but they are unique in there own individual way
i am tempted by the either the LG Optimus 7 or the HTC Pro 7 both are in my price range. i just wanted some peoples opinions on actually living with the phones and the expectations with Mango coming on and its 500 or so new features.
Also just a quick question someone might be able to tell me... i've read there has been a slow down in the release of apps. Is this due to the Mango update being released soon? Will all current apps be able to work on Mango?

Once again, any and all phones will work great with Mango due to the software being coded for the minimum hardware requirements (which all phones meet or even exceed!)
So just go with what screen size and/or features suit you Personally I wanted an AMOLED screen so I went with a Samsung Omnia 7 as it was cheap as well.
Many developers will wait until Mango is released because Mango will offer more API's so the hardware is better utilised. Current apps will work on Mango AFAIK.

All current devices will be about the same. They are all missing gyroscopes & front facing cameras, so certain mango features won't be enabled across the board with all current devices.
Just pick the one you like the form factor of, screen size ect.
As for which is the best? Its opinionated, but I would get the Samsung. Samsung uses better NAND memory and has a much better screen. Other than that it will perform the same as the HD7.
You will see a large surge in new apps come mango. Developers are waiting till they can submit their new apps with all the abilities and API's opened up to them.

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All current devices will be about the same. They are all missing gyroscopes & front facing cameras, so certain mango features won't be enabled across the board with all current devices.
Just pick the one you like the form factor of, screen size ect.
As for which is the best? Its opinionated, but I would get the Samsung. Samsung uses better NAND memory and has a much better screen. Other than that it will perform the same as the HD7.
You will see a large surge in new apps come mango. Developers are waiting till they can submit their new apps with all the abilities and API's opened up to them.
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Thanks for your opinion this is what i was after
FFC dont really bother me as i have great desire to use Skype on a phone. Interestingly i am wondering how the gyroscope on the new devices will work?
Also i was wondering what NAND is?
Coming from a Palm Pre 2 i was thinking about the DELL Venue as it has a slide out keyboard. a 4.1" AMOLED screen. Thing is if its anything like other DELL then ill stay clear!
What about the HTC Pro 7? worth a look? i like the fact of having an option to have a physical keyboard though this is not essential.
I've read that the LG Optimus 7 has a few, nice extra features that other phones dont?!
I liked my friends HTC Desire HD but am not a fan of android so im also thinking about the HTC HD7
Choices choices choices. HELP!!!

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Thanks for your opinion this is what i was after
FFC dont really bother me as i have great desire to use Skype on a phone. Interestingly i am wondering how the gyroscope on the new devices will work?
Also i was wondering what NAND is?
Coming from a Palm Pre 2 i was thinking about the DELL Venue as it has a slide out keyboard. a 4.1" AMOLED screen. Thing is if its anything like other DELL then ill stay clear!
What about the HTC Pro 7? worth a look? i like the fact of having an option to have a physical keyboard though this is not essential.
I've read that the LG Optimus 7 has a few, nice extra features that other phones dont?!
I liked my friends HTC Desire HD but am not a fan of android so im also thinking about the HTC HD7
Choices choices choices. HELP!!!
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Hi! I too just came from a Palm Pre 2! What a coincidence. I advise you not to go with Android. I in fact switched from a Motorola Droid to a Pre Plus in September of 2010 and then a Pre 2 in March of 2011. I have since upgraded to an HTC Trophy and I love my phone. I'm on Verizon, so the Trophy was my only WP7 choice. But it wasn't a bad one at all! While Web OS is a gorgeous operating system, I find WP7 more attractive and easier to use at times. The bigger screen and the keyboardlessness is what really tickles my fancy. Anyway, I would have to agree with the above poster and say a Samsung Focus is the best choice. I myself would have chosen one if I could because of the simple black, and sleekness of the device. Also, I became an early adopter of Mango and 7712 is absolutely amazing, you won't regret it! Variety is fun when it comes to smartphones.

Nexus One -> BB Torch -> Omnia 7 -> Pre 2
Above is my History of Smartphones and i'm anti Apple so i'm not getting an iPhone. I had the Omnia 7 in just in time for the NoDo update and i enojyed it but had lusted for a Pre 2 and webOS.
I am in the UK so i am limited to the phones available in the UK with the HTC Trophy, HD7, Pro7, Mozart, LG Optimus 7, and the Dell Venue Pro 7. I don't really want another Omnia 7 as i have already had it.
The only thing i didnt like about the WP7 was the ringtones and alert tones were not change to my own. Has this been sorted now? is this supported officially?
Anyone any experience in UK with an imported HTC Surrond?
Whats the difference between the HTC Pro 7 and the HTC Arrive ?

[Q] Wanted: GSM Device with Hard Keyboard... Which one?

I currently use a AT&T Tilt 2 (aka HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium) and I love most everything about it, especially the keyboard, but I am increasingly becoming aware of how limited it is compared to the newer phones on the market that have faster processors, much more RAM, and far superior cameras/camcorders. I'm not much of a techie, but I can understand flashing/tweaking my devices if the instructions are clear enough, so I've been trying to research the new phones on the market on my own to decide what my next device should be... Now, I'm even more confused than I was before!
I've always used Windows Mobile (Siemens SX56, then SX66, then Kaiser, now Rhodium), therefore I have no experience with Android or Windows 7. Android seems like the logical progression, as it's not locked down like W7 and iPhone, but I am hesitant about going over to the unknown and regretting it. My (very un-technical) wish list for a new device is:
New device MUST have a hard, slide-out, landscape keyboard (so, iPhones need not apply! LOL)
Decent camera with flash and HD video (preferred)
Sync well with Microsoft Outlook, as my entire life is in my Contacts, Calendar, Tasks, etc.
Must have GPS (but I believe most devices have GPS anyway) -- I currently use Bing for navigation, as it is free and has voice-guided directions
Must either have large memory capacity or expandable memory (card) capability
I'm not a gamer by any stretch, so I'm not looking for a toy, but to have a device that would actually play decent videos (from YouTube and the like) would definitely be a plus. Also, I find that I don't use my Rhodium much for music, as I'm able to store much more music on my 60GB MP3 player than I would on my device anyway.
I basically want a phone that will contain & manage my life, allow me to easily sync with my computer(s), act as my portable computer, and have a few cool bells/whistles to make my life easier. I've looked at what AT&T has on offer and the only device that I seem to like is the LG Quantum, but I am very hesitant since the prices on Ebay have some down pretty drastically on that one (you can pick one up for a little over $100 now, which can't be a good sign if Rhodiums are still selling for almost the same price) and the new W7 system just doesn't entice me yet. I want to control a lot on my phone, so I feel like I might be taking a step backwards if I went with that device. I'm not opposed to getting an unlocked phone from another carrier, but I want to be sure that I am still able to get the most out of whatever device I buy.
What devices out there would fit my criteria? What have those who also loved their Rhodiums switched to? Is there anything on the horizon for AT&T users that I should wait for?
Thanks for allowing me to pick your XDA brains! I've been here for several years and have always found our members helpful and knowledgeable, so I appreciate and respect your insights/opinions... Thank you!
Debbie

I want a great HTC keyboard device with Android but nothing has came out, hope next bunch of mobiles in Sept/Oct can bring some

Not true. Wife has the T-Mobile G2 which is an HTC phone. It is great.

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Not true. Wife has the T-Mobile G2 which is an HTC phone. It is great.
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Same here.... T-Mobile G2 is cool phone...

my wife has the HTC evo shift, which is great, also the mytouch 4g slide is an amazing phone.
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