Hey guys, i have an inspire, i was wondering if i activitated an old att basic messaging phone unlimited data plan, would it work with my inspire? And would it provide me with the same speeds?
Thanks!
Yes it should. The only differences between the smartphones and feature phones are the data plans.
Isn't the inspire an AT&T branded phone? You're better off using the unlimited data plan (im assuming its $15/mo) on an unlocked, unbranded phone because AT&T already has the IMEI number for the inspire and when they do their daily sweeping and found out you're using a smartphone with an incompatible plan, you'll get a nice text from them.
when did that start?
had a palm pre+ on at&t with just the unlimtd text plan for 3months and they where aware of it.... nothing ever happened
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hakuchi18v said:
had a palm pre+ on at&t with just the unlimtd text plan for 3months and they where aware of it.... nothing ever happened
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Was it an unlocked/unbranded version? That would be a big reason why. But back to the OP, yes you will have to change your plan...once you pop your SIM in within 24-48 you will automatically be provisioned to one of the tiered data plans.
invalidefexx187 said:
when did that start?
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Started back in Nov '09
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Was it an unlocked/unbranded version? That would be a big reason why. But back to the OP, yes you will have to change your plan...once you pop your SIM in within 24-48 you will automatically be provisioned to one of the tiered data plans.
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nope.. it was locked to at&t while i was using it with them...
I had a Captivate with unlimited data ($30) and my wife had a TMo N1 on the dumbphone unlimited($10). They never caught on, I assumed because it was an unbranded phone.
When I traded Captivate for Inspire, I gave her my Captivate, fully expecting to get hit with the smartphone dataplan text message.
It has been over a week now, and she is still on the dumbphone unlimited plan. Don't know if I am just lucky, or At&t isn't being as harsh anymore.
EDIT: Running Supernova ROM on the captivate. Not sure if that is the reason it slipped under the radar.
Here is how to get it back it worked for me!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=985869
Yea I had the $25 Unlimited Data/Unlimited Text plan which I've used for YEARS on unlocked phones. When I upgraded to the Inspire it lost my unlimited data and they opened a case to put it back on. Well I got the unlimited data back, but it's the $30 unlimited data plan, and they put the $20 unlimited text on it. So yes I got my umlimited data back, but for an additional $25/month.
Everytime you make a call, your sim transmits an IMSI number that identifies the phone type and the the sim, so that AT$T knows what number you are calling from and that your account is current.
Most of the cell/data plans are priced so that AT$T can make their money back from subsidizing the phones. I paid $49.99 for my Inspire, AT$T doesn't just " eat " the remainder of the $600 that these phones cost unlocked.
So if you bought it subsidized by AT$T, you are stuck with the data contract for 2 years, or you can buy out your contract for the full cost of the phone.
If you bought your phone unlocked AT&T does not require a data plan because they have no money to make up. After my contact expired last Sept, I used my Tilt , with an old sim I had from a " disposable " flip phone that I had. While my online AT$T account and my bills immediately recognized it as a Tilt, they never required a data plan and I just used wifi for all my data usage.
Well i had a pure i bought last march, i got it on att's online site, i got it in the mail, and i still had my razr, i activated a 10 dollar data unlimited for basic messaging phones, since i have a family plan with unlimited messaging for families, then a few hours later i popped the sim into my pure, it worked like a dream until i got a new phone which i needed the blackberry plan!
But it wasnt a problem for me!
Im gonna try it tomorrow, and ill let yall know!
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Not sure if this is what you mean?
I had a ATT Tilt on just a voice only plan for several years until I just bought the Inspire brand new and they never charged me for anything more than just the voice and I only used wifi for internet.
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I used to have $30 Smartphone data on my Tilt, I removed it last september, had data blocked... fast forward to January, I called AT&T and changed my listed IMEI to a KRZR IMEI and popped my Sim into a unlocked G1, added the unlimited $10 data plan... Now I want to play with my Tilt again for a little while, Will anything happen if I throw my sim card back in my Tilt? will they change my data plan? will they text me or notify me about it? or will I just go unnoticed on my $10 plan?
Once in a great while they might scan for it, but they'll send you a text/notify you before they change your data plan.
On a Tilt, you'll probably go unnoticed.
However, with a Nexus One or iPhone, you are automatically set to a $30 plan.
This happened to me, I had the 10/month medianet plan with a lg shine. The next the att changed me to the 30/month for my pure. I called them and they changed it back but the next day slapped the sim back on the pure. Within 3 hours got a text again and my plan was changed yet again.
My G1 has gone unnoticed... just slapped my sim in, if anything happens, I'll post it up.
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My G1 has gone unnoticed... just slapped my sim in, if anything happens, I'll post it up.
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Is your G1 a t-mobile brand or is it unbranded?
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Is your G1 a t-mobile brand or is it unbranded?
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T-Mobile, as far as I know its gone unnoticed, Although I honestly havent looked at the bill (on my folks familytalk plan still, lol) but I havent gotten any sms saying otherwise.
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I used to have $30 Smartphone data on my Tilt, I removed it last september, had data blocked... fast forward to January, I called AT&T and changed my listed IMEI to a KRZR IMEI and popped my Sim into a unlocked G1, added the unlimited $10 data plan... Now I want to play with my Tilt again for a little while, Will anything happen if I throw my sim card back in my Tilt? will they change my data plan? will they text me or notify me about it? or will I just go unnoticed on my $10 plan?
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They will notice it right away and change your data plan to the $30 plan without even telling you.
It is in your AT$T agreement that all smart phones now require a data plan.
My son broke his LG Vu which was still under contract so I could not cancel the service without early termination fees. The contract on my Tilt was up so I cancelled the service on the Tilt and put my son's sim from his Vu in my Tilt, did not tell AT$T anything. Within a week my son's account showed his phone as being a Tilt and a $30 data plan was added.
They can and will find out and change it.
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1618214
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They will notice it right away and change your data plan to the $30 plan without even telling you.
It is in your AT$T agreement that all smart phones now require a data plan.
My son broke his LG Vu which was still under contract so I could not cancel the service without early termination fees. The contract on my Tilt was up so I cancelled the service on the Tilt and put my son's sim from his Vu in my Tilt, did not tell AT$T anything. Within a week my son's account showed his phone as being a Tilt and a $30 data plan was added.
They can and will find out and change it.
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1618214
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I want to know what you think about a Tmobile smart phone or a unbranded. Will they still find out? There are people who say they have not auto changed their accounts yet. I had a LG Shine, and slapped my sim in a ATT PURE and they noticed right away.
Just wondering if you anybody has still be able to get passed AT&T's "smartphone" higher data rate.
I have an LG non smart phone that I am thinking about using to purchase the unlimited messaging and data plan for $30. Then swapping my sim back to my fuze.
But I dont know if AT&T has gotten wise to this or not.
yep they seem to catch ya quick now ....we signed up 3 weeks ago and got the unlimited data plan with our 2 pantech impacts ..then i bought a fuze a week later
and within 3 hours of turning on the fuze the nailed me and changed me over to the 2gb smartphone plan ...so unless someone knows a way around this looks like att gets to screw us some more
or if someone can figure out how to block the imei ..cause i think thats how they can tell
Just my experience but yesterday I had to go to the AT&T store to put the $30 data plan on my HTC Fuze. What happened was I put my sim card in my first gen iPhone so it activated the $15 data then I put my card back in my Fuze so for the last two months I had an iPhone plan running on the fuze and they never said anything but after about a week I stopped getting 3G service so I guess as the saying goes you get what you pay for. If you want to, try it but beware if anyone does have the $30 unlimited data plan if you even switch it off for a second you can't get it back good thing was that the iphone was a smartphone with unlimited data.
Signed up with AT&T years ago. Been staying with them contract free because I get the $15 medianet internet.
From what Ive seen, if you never call or contact AT&T, you're fine.
I have a Fuze and a unlocked Telstra Diamond, both with $15 a month medianet on our family plan.
Never been contacted about a change, and have been running on these phones for well over a year. (and on my phone, I frequently go around 5-10gb a month of data). Before these, we had a treo 750, and a palm centro on the medianet plan, and before that a Treo 650.
The 750 and up have all been considered "smartphones" yet Ive never been forced to upgrade.
I should note that I have never bought a phone through AT&T and all of these have been unlocked phones bought on ebay, and just switched out the sim.
As always YMMV.
Yeah IDK. When I swap in my sim card to the LG, AT&T online changes my device. Then when I put my sim back into my Fuze, it will pretty much instantly change it back on the website. Even if I go in and manually change it, it will revert right back my Fuze.
I just think it is a rip off that smartphones get charged more for the exact same network access.
I got a call from my local target store, they informed me my phone was in [its sunday ] however when I went in everything checked out fine. But the guy handling my transfer to my new phone showed me, ATT is requiring me to drop my unli data "grandfathered" plan and swap to the highest data plan they have. Now I could care less, Its like 5gbs or whatever. I maybe hit 2 [maybe] when tethering for a month. BUT. I'd rather pay the 20-30$ I do now for unlimited data then more or less, for limited data. They simply wouldn't allow me to move on. Im guessing its because There hasn't been 4G in my area [i give it 10 years till ATT considers getting full 3G here, first] but they are requiring me to upgrade [downgrade in my opinion] my plan to one of their data-set plans. Now I hate the idea that when I "upgrade" my phone, I have to change my plan. And basically, I refuse to lose my unlimited data to any better mobile phone than mine currently. I call shenanigans.
soo.... My question is [i believe i saw a thread here before but couldn't find it], Can I call ATT and find a reliable rep who will ensure my account keeps its unlimited data, am i screwed by swapping to this newer phone?.
For some background, 4/7/11 Is when I hopped on this railroad of funness. And my data plan is; Smart Choice Data - originating from Alltel USA (state, Montana).
Any and all help/advice would be nice. I'd rather not go for something less than I had my eyes set on.
&& If theres already a post about this [that i couldn't find] please direct me to it :]
Yes I'm on the one x with unlimited data. It can be done don't listen to their crap non sense
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How did that work out with you? Did you have them activate the sim in store or no? Because to get specific; I upgraded my phone to keep my plan. Im going from a sim card [fitting in the xperia 10] which doesn't have 4G/LTE.
I thought for sure they'd have to handle it there to extend my plan, but I didnt think they have to activate my SIM card there.
I'm on it too...
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If your data plan is truely grandfathered in, you get to keep it when you upgrade. However, typically it can be done only via AT&T's own retail or online sites. 3rd party retailers like Target doesn't have the access to keep your unlimited data plan but some know how to keep it somehow.
call att to reinstate it
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call att to reinstate it
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This. Just say it was removed without your consent or knowledge.
Or just buy the phone from a sales rep over the phone. If you're out of contract and say you'd really like a better price, they have a table of prices they're allowed to offer based on how long you've been with them and your FAN# (if applicable). Definitely cheaper than 200.
Oh, and they won't change your plan around that way.
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Call at&t and tell them what's going on they told me it would be added back in when I called. The system was jacked up and would not let me activate it so they had to manually activate it which took it away. I will see this week if they can add it back in. If not I will no longer be an att customer.
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Or just buy the phone from a sales rep over the phone. If you're out of contract and say you'd really like a better price, they have a table of prices they're allowed to offer based on how long you've been with them and your FAN# (if applicable). Definitely cheaper than 200.
Oh, and they won't change your plan around that way.
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I pre-ordered it through targets electronic section. So at the time it was 150 [50$ preorder] then 100 when it came in. However the sticker price said 179, AND the rep in store [was new there] told me Its going to be even cheaper than that pre-order price. I'll just call tomorrow when I go in there from one of their phones and sit on the phone with them [hopefully] while my info gets transferred over so they can change it asap.
I usually do my data changes over the phone then call back to confirm. This time best buy did it for me, I just kept confirming that I had best buy and that it will remain untouched...
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I have the unlimited data plan too. I just picked up my one x today at the att store. They switched it over no problem. My advice is go to your local att store and ask to have your plan unlimited plan reactivated or call.
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Alright, so to anyone who might care [mod can close this now] I called AT&T and the guy I talked to said he'll put in a case for me saying I need my unli-data grandfathered over and they'll call me later this evening after they know i've picked up the phone [to verify I actually got it] and it'll get switched back. The guy also said pick whatever data plan they give me because it can all be changed.
So that worked out. .
I signed up with verizon two years ago with HTC thunderbolt with a 4G Unlimited data plan. After that I have been just buying secondhand phones. Now I am up for an upgrade, but I know if you upgrade through verizon they will strip you of your unlimited plan. But I also heard that they are doing this to customers who have 3G smartphones, in order to get everyone to 4G. But if you have been grandfathered into a 4G unlimited plan, can you upgrade and still keep your unlimited plan.
I am not able to get a correct answer from anyone. Has anyone recently, who has 4G unlimited plan been able to upgrade and keep their plan.
Thank you in advance.
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I signed up with verizon two years ago with HTC thunderbolt with a 4G Unlimited data plan. After that I have been just buying secondhand phones. Now I am up for an upgrade, but I know if you upgrade through verizon they will strip you of your unlimited plan. But I also heard that they are doing this to customers who have 3G smartphones, in order to get everyone to 4G. But if you have been grandfathered into a 4G unlimited plan, can you upgrade and still keep your unlimited plan.
I am not able to get a correct answer from anyone. Has anyone recently, who has 4G unlimited plan been able to upgrade and keep their plan.
Thank you in advance.
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As of right now, Verizon is making everyone go to a share everything or tiered data plan. Those of us who are grandfathered in will have to switch to one those plans. But here's the kicker. This is only if we want to take advantage of subsidized phone options. For those of us who want to continue to have unlimited data will have to pay for our phones outright. So either we can enjoy phones at a cheaper pace (at least until VZW gets rid of subsidized phone options) or we can pay the 4-700 dollars for a new phone and keep our unlimited plan.
I'm keeping my plan on principle.
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looks like no upgrading for me , just keep buying second hand phones.
I upgraded from an Incredible2 3g phone to the GN2 keeping my unlimited data by adding the new phone to one of my 2 "dumb phone" lines, then moved the GN2 to my line. The Verizon store Rep offered to do this for me knowing that it is a loophole to keep your unlimited data. I'm sure eventually that loophole will be closed, by I can speak from personal experience that it works. Several others have done the same thing. Hope this helps.
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I upgraded and kept my unlimited data as well, there's three lines on my account and as long as I always transfer the upgrade to the line that doesn't have data, then after the upgrade switching phones with that line I still keep my unlimited. So in summary as long as you have a line without data in your account you can keep unlimited by doing an alternative upgrade.
Pro-tip:
Ask for an "A-List" device at the Verizon store. A-list devices are devices returned within the first 14 days they allow exchange. Mine was from someone who could not handle the power of Android and had to dumb it down to iOS, saved me a couple hundred bucks to let them borrow it and I still got a warranty :laugh:
I payed $640 out the door (Accessories+Tax) months ago for my S3. 16GB White, Car Charger, Screen Protector 3pk, UAG case, new SIM (Do not pay for sim or activation corporate stores do it free, private will too if you mention this).
I've been with Verizon before there were smartphones when they came out jumped on and got one, I always had unlimited Data on my phone and my wives, last year when I upgraded I was told I couldn't get the unlimited plan but reading on this and many forums people are still getting unlimited plans, I just don't understand how some are still getting unlimited data, I even called Verizon customer service they told me they no longer offer unlimited data
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I've been with Verizon before there were smartphones when they came out jumped on and got one, I always had unlimited Data on my phone and my wives, last year when I upgraded I was told I couldn't get the unlimited plan but reading on this and many forums people are still getting unlimited plans, I just don't understand how some are still getting unlimited data, I even called Verizon customer service they told me they no longer offer unlimited data
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There are some loopholes, but once you give away unlimited data there is no way to get it back.
A Verizon rep is supposed to tell you that it's no longer available. They also aren't going to tell you the loopholes.
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Loopholes and people like me who preordered the phone a week before they cut off unlimited data.
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Loopholes and people like me who preordered the phone a week before they cut off unlimited data.
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I actually upgraded when I was supposed to get a 2gb plan, but somehow I didn't get switched over. It was last summer, that wouldn't happen now.
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Got to love falling through the cracks. Lucky!
Or.....buy your phone outright (eBay, etc) and activate on verizonwirless.com. Been month to month for a LOONNNG time and plan to never get a phone any other way.
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Or.....buy your phone outright (eBay, etc) and activate on verizonwirless.com. Been month to month for a LOONNNG time and plan to never get a phone any other way.
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Sorry for being dumb...how does this get you unlimited data? This intrigues me but I couldn't see a plan that got you where it sounds like you are.
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Sorry for being dumb...how does this get you unlimited data? This intrigues me but I couldn't see a plan that got you where it sounds like you are.
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Buying the phone outright is a way to keep an unlimited data plan, not get one. If you were on an unlimited data plan, you could keep it by buying a phone for full retail price through Verizon or buy a phone from somewhere other than Verizon then activate it on your account.
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Well, I just upgraded again last July and as long as i didn't change my plan, I could keep unlimited data.
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The way I kept my unlimited data plan was by getting my wife a smartphone, using her upgrade for my phone, and getting her a new plan. She had a dumb phone, so when we went to get us both upgrades, her 2 year upgrade was used to get my S3, it was transferred to my account, and her account was setup with the standard 2GB plan. It was a bit of work for the rep, but he was really awesome and did it for us.
From what I heard, this can also work if you add another line to account.
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Sorry for being dumb...how does this get you unlimited data? This intrigues me but I couldn't see a plan that got you where it sounds like you are.
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Sorry for not being clearer! Sometimes what's in the head doesn't come out the fingers when typing.
I have bought my last 4-5 phones on eBay. Best way I know to KEEP the plan I have.......so far. I'm sure one day, VZW will just say "no mas" and completely rid themselves of the unlimited plan. FWIW I have never gone over 3GB a month but it's more the principle of the thing.