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This must happen with other pdas... screen issue

I am experiancing some problems!
basically I think the manufacturer installed protective screen has come loose from the hard sensor (due to use?) and so the stylus is pushing on an air bubble, and with the software keyboard (virtual keyboard) the wrong buttons are getting pressed.
I dont know whether to cut out that layer with a scalpel (carefully) and use normal screen protectors that stick properly ... has anyone done this before?
Maybe you could apply heat to it to tighten it or something I dont know so I need help!
My phone is an alpine (xda2i) but other pdas must be having the same issue?
is it ok to cut the initial plastic screen that comes integrated with the xda?

Just make sure it is actually a protective screen and not the digitizer (the membrane that makes it touch screen and sits on the LCD) that your cutting away.
with a protective skin there should be no need to cut anything... I honestly think your talking about the digitizer - in which case take to a mobile phone specialist and they could heat sync it for you.

To check whether it is the digitizer or the crappy screen protector, you should be able to see the edge of the layer at the side, especially manufacturer orginial screen protector, they are really crappy. You should be able to seperate the layer (from the edge) with something pointy (e.g. a needle), and then peel it off from there.
If you didn't see any distinguishable edge at the edge of the screen, chances are you should not do anything yourself.

Jonjamesm said:
Just make sure it is actually a protective screen and not the digitizer (the membrane that makes it touch screen and sits on the LCD) that your cutting away.
with a protective skin there should be no need to cut anything... I honestly think your talking about the digitizer - in which case take to a mobile phone specialist and they could heat sync it for you.
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Thanks for the responses!!!
I have a feeling that it is what you are referring to as a digitizer. Do most of the mobile phone shops do this heat option? as after googling it, not much comes up, or is it referred to under a different terminology,
thanks in advance!
Rob

If your UK based you can find out more about them from apex laptops, google them...
I'm in Edinburgh, and it took me a while before I found someone willing to replace the digitizer.
This is not a common thing - but I think with the introduction of the iphone the markets for heat syncing will go up, I suggest freeing up an afternoon and go to some of those dodgy shops that offer the unlocking service, also some computer repair shop technicians might be confident in doing something of this nature.
Happy hunting!...
JJ McG.

thanks for your help

whatever you do dont approach o2. they are ridiculous, they want to charge 350 dollars to peel off the old one and put a new on one. search ebay and you will find digitizres with screwdriver and peeling, firming tool for 15 dollars plus postage.
o2's repair guys say it "original" spares which make it so expensive....
right...........

rang up
rang up a couple of shops one doesn't do heat sync and the other does but the machines bust, he started talking about soldering etc...(does that sound like it?) but when i re-described the problem he started talking about 50 60 quid for a new screen! which I am not prepared to pay for the relatively minor problem
How is a digitiser different from a normal screen protector anyway?
(placing a normal protector on top of it sort of helped reduce the problems because it applied a little firmness over the offending area....)

O.k the digitizer is not a screen protector. The Digitizer is a membrane that sits atop the LCD.
Note: that the LCD is not a touch screen and the only thing making your device a touch sensitive is this digitizer
digitizers can be pricey, but the reason your guy is costing it at 50 - 60 quid is because he is the middle man and needs to make a profit. You can find digitizers from apex laptops or GPS midlands (links below) and buy them at trade prices
http://www.gpsmidlands.co.uk/index.php?menu=Home
http://www.apexlaptops.co.uk/touchscreens.htm
Dependant on your device will depend on the price.
My guy asked for 10 pounds to replace my screen, which I thought was more than reasonable because if he broke the LCD whilst replacing the digitizer (which he did) he was liable to replace it. Make sure that your guy will do this.
hope this helps.

after googling...
After googling for a bit, I came across someone who had these sort of problems with their own pda
http://jamescrisp.blogspot.com/2007/05/fixing-palm-treos-digitizer-touch.html
it seems that dirt stuck under the sides can cause the same kinds of problems,
after running a bit of paper under the corners of the screen I have found some interesting results, the problems I have have changed slightly and seem to rectify temporarily when I press down (rub down) on the screen...
so I might look at taking it apart with some tools off ebay or something and giving it a good clean... any recommendations on how to strip down and clean an Alpine....? actually I'll repost that in the aline forum if there isn't already a post there....

hope your confident in doing so - I'd take it to a shop if it pisses you off that much - taking it a part and cleaning might end up with you just having a big screen phone with no touch pad...
Up to you, hope your successful

Damaged LCD. Most likely Pressure Damage. Need help

Hi,
First of all, I know I am stupid. Way stupid than I thought I am.
I recently went to a roller coaster theme park. Now wait.. don't start painting your imagination... I did not drop my phone (Diamond) during any ride... but I tried to be smart. I kept the phone in my back pocket so that it won't fly off during ride. However, I underestimated the forces that would be exerted on the phone during the ride.
Thus, at the end of the day, when I pulled out my phone.. I saw that there is a yellowish mark on my screen. Please see the attached photo. It is a bit blur as I used my colleagues phone to take the photo... but nevertheless, it gives a good idea of damage.
Is this pressure damage?
What part is damaged... LCD or digitizer?
Do I need to replace it.. or there is way to fix this?
Thanks for reading the post. Please let me know if you have any suggestions/recommendations

Digitizer vs LCD Replacement
Looks like the digitizer. The part behind the LCD (think p-n-j sandwich).
lcd + digitizer + housing = 'screen'
**Careful**
- when disassembling, there are usually 3 ribbons 1 keyboard 2 power 3 data. break 1 throw away the phone .. or buy a new one.
- the digitizer should never ever ever ever be touched, wear plastic gloves. Sometimes surgical gloves have powder inside.
- if you have to bend anything for removal,
bend LARGE surface area to avoid cracking or pressure damage on a single point.
best of luck
I payed
HTC Desire Z $85 digitizer
HTC incredible S $30 LCD
so expect to pay like $60-$100 after shipping etc.. (cdn dollars)
***you'll need the tools, get a store bought kit they will last longer, but there more $$

I have a similar problem. Mine is a Moto XT720. Can anyone suggest where I can get the digitizer for XT720.

[GUIDE] I9000 Screen Replacement

This topic has clues for replacing the screen. I have not concluded an manual for chancing it yet but reading this whole topic gives you the big picture how it is done. Questions are always welcome and I try to answer them with my knowledge. This 1st post gives you 2 links to follow for pics about changing screen and my own starting point for chancing my own screen.
Has anyone bought and installed a digitizer+screen set which is on sale at ebay? I could not post direct link to ebay because I'm a newbie on these forums. You can find the product searching ebay with these keywords "I9000 digitizer". My galaxy's screen cracked and I need an replacement. Both screen and glass broke. I think that this set includes them both. There is also told in the questions that the set infact includes amoled display and not LCD as the title says.
Second question is that does someone have an service manual somewhere. Would be nice to know how to break apart my phone when replacing screen.
Third question is that doesn't samsung vibrant and galaxy s share the same chassis but different screen with more capacitive buttons. Could it be possible to install vibrant's screen to galaxy s?
PS. The way my galaxy brokedown is very funny. I lay down my phone on the kitchen table and the screen cracked. I was like OMFG when I heard the cracking noise. Phone was like 13 days old. Samsung does not repair it with warranty because they think that it wasn't an manufacturing defect. They said that I have dropped my phone and that's the way it broke. That could not be the case because I handled it like a baby. I would have to pay 255€ for new screen and digitizer. Hell no!! I'm a student so that sum does not fit with my wallet.
New screen installed, see posts http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7683527&postcount=37 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7710572&postcount=40
Edit: Ebay's prices have rised noticeable in the last couple of months. At the moment the price for these screens is around 100$. I found this site which sells them for 60£. http://www.shineyourmobile.co.uk/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=8128

pekkala89 said:
Second question is that does someone have an service manual somewhere. Would be nice to know how to break apart my phone when replacing screen.
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There are 2 videos on the net, both on youtube I think. Just search "i9000 Disassembly" and you'll find one of them.
The Galaxy S has a serious design flaw as the glass goes around the home button (and the call ear/speaker) so it's very vulnerable there to shattering. I had my phone in the pocket and suddenly when I take it out I see it cracked right next to the home button. What had I done during the time it got cracked? The only possible explanation was carrying a _small_ speaker that then probably hit it. I was so surprised when I saw it cracked because even a speaker hit, when I lifted it up, is hard to consider cracking the screen.
So international model Galaxy S owners, be careful at the bottom and top of the screen. They're the weak points of the glass. For me only the glass cracked and not the screen so it will be interesting to see how much it will cost to fix.

Schmich said:
So international model Galaxy S owners, be careful at the bottom and top of the screen. They're the weak points of the glass. For me only the glass cracked and not the screen so it will be interesting to see how much it will cost to fix.
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I think that you can't change only the glass. Amoled screen is so thin and I believe it's glued pretty thight to the glass. Separating them may be impossible without tearing the amoled.

the same...
i had a similar unfortunate event ... my screen cracked when i hit the phone to the metallic frame of a chair (it slipped out of my hand )...
it cracked exactly like you people said... near the home button.
i ordered the display + digitizer and i anxiously await its arrival to see if i can replace the damaged one.
it is quite tricky to dissassemble the display part but hope to succed...
keep you posted with the outcome
respect

pekkala89 said:
I think that you can't change only the glass. Amoled screen is so thin and I believe it's glued pretty thight to the glass. Separating them may be impossible without tearing the amoled.
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Yeah that's my fear but I presume they just heat up the glue. That's how some industries do for other products. I think dental bracers (& its glue) have a different technique as well. So, will be interesting to see.

gallaxya said:
i ordered the display + digitizer and i anxiously await its arrival to see if i can replace the damaged one.
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Where did you order it from?

If you were asked to pay more than $250 for screen replacement, then why don't you send it to Samsung in Korea? They will replace your SAMOLED for mere USD $100ish and ship it back to you for free (or may be not). This way you get a genium quality from original manufacturer and absolutely no hassles!

I dropped mine from around 4ft onto a concrete floor and its fine. Maybe I just got lucky.

Digitizer+Samoled set ordered from ebay. I should get it in two weeks. If possible I try to take pictures of the changing process and make an manual. I hope it's not glued tight to the chassis.

please do, i have some f***ing little scratches all over the screen, thought it was supposed to be scratch resistant.
Worst part is that it's in it's protective pouch all the time (maybe that's the probleme, dirt/dust might get trapped and rub against the screen).

Got my digitizer and amoled screen t
oday. I will report back if its a hard job or not to replace it.
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yrizan said:
Got my digitizer and amoled screen t
oday. I will report back if its a hard job or not to replace it.
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I tried to remove broken screen for 2 hours and no luck. Removing the motherboard is problematic because power button is glued to the chassis so I could only turn the motherboard aside and not remove it completely. I tried also to remove metal edge but I could only separate it from the left and right edge, not from top and bottom. I hope you have better luck and report how you managed to overcome my problems.

pekkala89 said:
I tried to remove broken screen for 2 hours and no luck. Removing the motherboard is problematic because power button is glued to the chassis so I could only turn the motherboard aside and not remove it completely. I tried also to remove metal edge but I could only separate it from the left and right edge, not from top and bottom. I hope you have better luck and report how you managed to overcome my problems.
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Sorry to say got in to the same problems
Looks like the phone is build around the screen. Be careful with the metal ring, on top and bottom its between the screen and chassis, so if you brute force to much the screen cracks even more. The screen is glued to the chassis all around with superglue. I am not sure if its even possible to repalce the screen. It let me thinking that samsung wont repair broken galaxys , just replace them.
Ill keep working on the phone and keep trying, but compared to changing the screen on iphone is this like changing the screen on a iphone as a blind man without arms.
People thinking of buying this screen kit on eBay, don't do it. Just contact samsung for a repair.
Ill keep you posted.

I got the screen off.
No need to loosen the metaling ring around. The screen in dropped in the chassis from the front.
On the mainboard, just pop off the screen cable, long and flat next to the SD card slot.
The next step is very strange, just use brute force and crack the screen off the chassis, start from the top
When you get around the home button, be careful. Samsung has clued 2 sensors to the screen and chassis for back and option button. Best thing to do here is bend the screen back a little and cut loos the sensors from the digitizer with a sharp knife/scalpel. Samsung has used insane amount of clue on this phone.
Both the digitizer and amoled screen was clued to the chassis.
The next step is to clean off all the clue, buy loads of glue. Fill the chassis with glue and press the new screen on.
Wish me luck.
Ill keep you posted.

Making me a bit scared reading this thread, I`ve just bought phone Insurance just in case.Good luck fitting your replacement screens, sounds a bit daunting.

YES!!!
New screen in place and everything is working perfectly. Took about 3 hours first time (give or take). Its possible to do it a lot faster. The biggeste problem is the glue. Melting at about 120 celsius, but i was scared to heat the glas as i didnt know how much heat the mainbord could stand. All in all a pain in the a**, but doable.
I can also confirm this screen from ebay to be an orginal samsung amoled screen.
Best of luck too others trying a screen replace.
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amoled or samoled though?

My mistake. Its a samoled screen
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Awesome!!! thanks for the review
did you manage to snap a few pictures meanwhile you were working in your phone?

Im sorry, no pictures
The charger is missing to my canon camera, new one incomming from ebay. I'll post pictures next time ill change the screen ;-)
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Wife broke the screen. New parts on the way...

So my youngest knocked my wife's phone off the table and cracked the screen. Looks like the "glass", digitizer, and LCD are all one piece. The best price I found was in Texas for $65. The company I spoke with on the phone seemed friendly.
Anybody replaced one yet?

I haven't taken mine apart yet. Take lots of pictures and document the process. I am sure it will be of benefit to lots of people. Also post the link to where you got the parts. That would also be helpful.
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Will do. I didn't post the link thinking some might call SPAM. I got it from www.globaldirectparts.com. The person I spoke to on the phone said they test all parts before they go out so plan for a test delay before it's boxed.
dweebs0r said:
I haven't taken mine apart yet. Take lots of pictures and document the process. I am sure it will be of benefit to lots of people. Also post the link to where you got the parts. That would also be helpful.
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I've done a few iPhone 3G screens in the past. Even though this one's not $13, I'm glad I don't have to break out the heat gun to separate the glass...

hallfleming said:
So my youngest knocked my wife's phone off the table and cracked the screen. Looks like the "glass", digitizer, and LCD are all one piece. The best price I found was in Texas for $65. The company I spoke with on the phone seemed friendly.
Anybody replaced one yet?
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From the dismantle guide that someone else posted, it does not seem to be too hard of a fix. The glass/digitizer/SAMOLED screen should all be one part since that is the beauty of what makes SAMOLED thinner than an LCD, there is no air/air gaps.
Seems like a good price for the whole shibang. Iphone screens cost more than that I thought and suck to replace.

I think it will be an interesting project to see how easy it comes apart and how easily the screen is replaced. I have done a few iPhones and a Blackberry Bold screen.
The more detailed the documentation the better.

65 Bucks isn't bad for a brand new phone on the market. Please please please take lots of detailed pics. I replaced numerous iphones glass and lcd's all the way from the 1gen to the 3gs, 6 in total(2 weren't mine). Hopefully it's as easy as those to replace. First day after the iphone 4 came out and friends were breaking their glass and coming to me to get them replaced digitizer and lcd combo's were running 145. But document this please. I'm interested to see what other fun stuff is under the front of the phone, already seen what's going on on the back side.

I have already torn my phone apart and taken pictures and a step by step of how to do it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740022
I hope that gets you far enough to replace what you need

Replaced the screen. Not to bad. Easier I think than the iPhone glass replacement. I took some pics. How shall I post them?
I think what iLoki did was harder than the glass replacement....

Make an open photobucket album or you could load to photobucket and just paste them in the thread with what you did. Interested to see how it looks.
What would you say the quality of the screen is? How does it compare to the stock AMOLED?

Alright. Much like a iPhone 3G/3GS, there's some sticky tape involved. Rather than splitting the glass from the LCD, you'll be pulling all glass, digitizer and lcd out. One tool I recommend for splitting the glue tape, a guitar pick. They actually send those with some of the iPhone screen kits. And grab your spouses hair dryer...
First off, thanks iLoki for the instructions. Removing the back plastic I think was the hardest. Just out of raw fear you'll snap the final upper clip. It pops when you remove it but don't waste a good panic when you hear the sound.
On the final steps of iLoki's instructions, you remove the ribbon cable under the blue tape to remove the speaker assembly. You can skip this step. Just pull the one screw that holds the assembly to the chassis. you can remove the mainboard and speaker in one piece. After that, pull what I assumed is the radio assembly on the bottom of the chassis to avoid snagging anything. It pulls right out after you disconnect the white antenna cable.
When the mainboards out, it's time to unglue. I used a hair dryer rather than a heat gun this time. It worked fine. I used low fan, high heat for about 60 seconds on each side I was working with. Use the guitar pick to start separating the screen from the chassis. You'll see the black tape that runs around the chassis in the picture. Don't worry about destroying that black seal tape. It comes with the screen. I did one side and worked the bottom, top and then the final side. If the glue is stubborn, try some more heat. Use common sense with that.
Once the screens separated, pull the black tape from the chassis. Be careful around the 4 bottom buttons. There's a silver metallic ribbon cable underneath. You'll see it in my picture with the tape rolled back.
The new screen came with 2 seperate sticky tape pieces on the screen. One for the perimeter and one for the main part of the screen. Peel them off and align it for install. Make sure the ribbon cable for the screen goes through the slot on the chassis. To get the screen "squared" up for adhesion, I used the speaker grill for alignment. AKA, start at the top, and lay it down top to bottom.
That's about it. Let me know if you have any questions. I'm around Atlanta so if I can ever help in person, let me know!

The screen is a OEM Samsung screen. Logo's and everything. The logo's are under the protective sticker on the front that says "made in China". Scared me at first...
flashman2002 said:
Make an open photobucket album or you could load to photobucket and just paste them in the thread with what you did. Interested to see how it looks.
What would you say the quality of the screen is? How does it compare to the stock AMOLED?
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hallfleming said:
The screen is a OEM Samsung screen. Logo's and everything. The logo's are under the protective sticker on the front that says "made in China". Scared me at first...
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Does it have the Death Star symbol and "at&t" at the top?

Yep! Just for you...
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Does it have the Death Star symbol and "at&t" at the top?
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OMG yall are some brave souls, lol.

so did your wife or kid break your screen? Title and OP conflict :/

Just ordered my screen
and I will be attempting this same "operation" myself in 5-12 days when the screen arrives... during a routine "check out how cool my gorilla-glass is" demonstration my amoled screen under the gorilla glass broke... yes, I am probably not the smartest person in the world.
Anyways, $73 later I will be getting my replacement screen from globaldirectparts.com - I'll let you guys know how it goes.

james.roddy said:
and I will be attempting this same "operation" myself in 5-12 days when the screen arrives... during a routine "check out how cool my gorilla-glass is" demonstration my amoled screen under the gorilla glass broke... yes, I am probably not the smartest person in the world.
Anyways, $73 later I will be getting my replacement screen from globaldirectparts.com - I'll let you guys know how it goes.
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In all of your demonstration, did you develop a scratch, or did the screen just break?
Cuz if its just the screen breaking, I'll probably remove my screen protector.

man this might be worth ordering as a just in case at that price. can't believe the super amoled is that cheap considering the whole hoopla about how much they cost to make. Thanks for the link!

Just bought my captivate for 50 bucks from a guy who cracked the LCD. Replacement parts are on the way. Does anyone have anymore pictures or maybe a disassembly video? Thanks

Replacing chassis parts

Has anyone replaced any parts of the chassis on their Sensation yet?
I just ordered this part but am not yet sure how difficult it will be to fit:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250954550434&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:GB:1123
The reason is that I have some small dents on the metal surrounding the screen (screen and digitiser are absolutely intact).
I can see lots of videos about digitisers being replaced but hopefully I won't have to pull out any cables or remove any tape.
I know I have to remove the battery, sim, sdcard and the other back chassis (6 torxx) that seems easy enough, just gets a little fuzzy after that.
Anyone done it?

The mutiple usage of the heat gun has kind of put me off doing this for now!
I will look into it if I ever someone crack my digitiser.
Order cancelled.

Electronic Punk said:
The mutiple usage of the heat gun has kind of put me off doing this for now!
I will look into it if I ever someone crack my digitiser.
Order cancelled.
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be glad because it's a lot of work also you need to have all the right double tapes otherwise LCD will seat higher and ...... DON'T DO IT
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in my country, Indonesia, just come up to the PDA store or other official HTC store (since not much store sell HTC in here), pick your chasing and let them do the rest..

Yeah it arrived (even though I cancelled so they gave me a full refund) so will keep i for when something really breaks I guess.
If I just had to take a few screws out and/or fiddle with some clips I would be happy. But I am not going to use a heatgun or anything like that risk getting dust between the screen and digitiser at this stage.