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SetCPU + Voltage Settings for Overcome 1.2.0

Hey Guys,
Thought I Would share for any interested...
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*Added a setting for charging that is 100/1400 conservative with a priority above everything except the heat one. so like 91 heat and 89 charging.
Seems stable, zippy and doesn't kill the battery too fast. All good.
Nobleskill
UPDATE: the settings above worked a treat for me on froyo but after updating to gingerbread I found it was back to the old drawing board time. For whatever reason, and being fair to Samsung and gingerbread by saying that the tab is now older and been used and abused its whole life, I wasn't able to apply the same level of undervolting without lockups and rebooted.
Why? Well could be a few reasons, the one mentioned above I really think plays a part in it. I also think though that gb is just different. Obvious I know but I mean its different at a base operating level. It needs new bootloaders and as alot of the experienced developers currently doing the tab gb stuff I think are finding its got a few curveballs its very happy to throw into the mix. The other point is that the control app has been updated dramatically with new ui and a more polished look to the outside which I think also follows into the coding. Xan, the developer must be a very talented individual and is pioneering the CPU control at kernel level IMO and really deserves our support. You can get the fee apk but I think its worth a donation just for the free version.
I notice the newer kernels are also having preset UV settings which is awesome. Gives you a base to build on and as each tab is different, yours may not go as low in volts as little Johnny's tab but it may go further than big Bob's one, it provides a good starting point. Or whatever..
Jump on over here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943669
This guy is my favourite developer evar! Very friendly, very talented and shares <3. Read this thread as much as you can, its brilliant and has a few gems hidden in the posts. Also the kernel's are basically on the cutting edge. Its this guys patches that find their way to other, and all I'm pretty sure, kernels and roms.

thanks a lot buddy ! I was really looking for this !!!!!! you're my hero !!!!

Your most welcome mate. Any issues make sure and let me know through this thread.
Nobleskill
Ps. Watch how big a difference it makes to battery drain with screen off and below 30. I keep thinking it will die before I get a charger and like 4 hours later its only gone down by about 10 percent.
As always, support the Dev's if your able to. They richly deserve it and it doesn't have to be much to make a difference. )

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Your most welcome mate. Any issues make sure and let me know through this thread.
Nobleskill
Ps. Watch how big a difference it makes to battery drain with screen off and below 30. I keep thinking it will die before I get a charger and like 4 hours later its only gone down by about 10 percent.
As always, support the Dev's if your able to. They richly deserve it and it doesn't have to be much to make a difference. )
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there is a problem regarding those settings. did you try to restart the Tab after? mine doesn't start at all ! I should try several times to keep pressing the power button and then, after few minutes it starts again. after uninstalling the Set CPU and Voltage Control, everything comes to normal.....any advice?

SetCPU seems to be very crashy on the SGT. You might want to try not decreasing the voltages quite as much, some CPUs can't cope with it. I've got mine set even lower and I'm fine.
The "performance" governor locks the speed at the "max" value, the "powersave" one locks it at the "min" value. It's a pity that the "Ondemand" and "Interactive" governors seem to be so unstable as either would be better for performance than "Conservative".
I've also got another profile for "Charging" which ramps everything up a bit.

One thing I have noticed after spending some time in here is that all SGT's are not created equal!! I have no issues with the settings above, none at all. It boots fine, runs super fast with 2200 being the average score in quad. And I am on my second day without charging... its been lighter usage but still....
I guess I got lucky but all I can say is trial and error, or search for a simillar problem with another user and ask what settings if any worked for them. My thinking is that there would be batches that will run one way and others that won't.

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One thing I have noticed after spending some time in here is that all SGT's are not created equal!! I have no issues with the settings above, none at all. It boots fine, runs super fast with 2200 being the average score in quad. And I am on my second day without charging... its been lighter usage but still....
I guess I got lucky but all I can say is trial and error, or search for a simillar problem with another user and ask what settings if any worked for them. My thinking is that there would be batches that will run one way and others that won't.
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Its the CPU. They all have different tolerances on the minimum they can run at. Samsung just uses a voltage that guarantees all of them will work at. I've decreased everything 800mhz and up to -200mv. So far so good.

ovigt71 said:
there is a problem regarding those settings. did you try to restart the Tab after? mine doesn't start at all ! I should try several times to keep pressing the power button and then, after few minutes it starts again. after uninstalling the Set CPU and Voltage Control, everything comes to normal.....any advice?
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Try install jus UV & set the limit to 1400ghz. Run it for a day or two.
I have problem with SetCPU, give up on it. So now i only have UV installed.

thanks for the settings, no problems since 1 day

Sorry for stupid question, Am I need to flash kernel for 1400ghz? Or just use SetCPU with overcome 1.0 karnel?
Since there are some karnel said they are for 1.4ghz so I am confusing on it, tks!

izamoscar said:
Sorry for stupid question, Am I need to flash kernel for 1400ghz? Or just use SetCPU with overcome 1.0 karnel?
Since there are some karnel said they are for 1.4ghz so I am confusing on it, tks!
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If the kernel does not support >1ghz, then setcpu cannot set the speed to anything higher.
The overcome kernel supports an overlock of 1.2 and 1.4Ghz.

Overcome Kernel 1.0 is an overclock kernel. Just install setcpu to oc

nobleskill said:
Hey Guys,
Thought I Would share for any interested...
Seems stable, zippy and doesn't kill the battery too fast. All good.
Nobleskill
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with the settings above do you have it set up as "Save as boot settings"? i had set mine at bfq and limit clock to 1200mhz and not changing anything else saving it as boot but when i went to restart the tab it got stuck on the Galaxy Tab screen, i had to re-store my backup in order for the tab to re-start.
also how did you get the 600mhz:?-100=?mv?
i am using richardtrip's [Kernel] [EURO] [1.4ghz OC/UV] MCR EXT4 compatible/Voodoo Sound V15 22/02 hope that helps with what i am asking.

I gave up on Set Cpu and switched to Cpu Tuner, a choise I don't regret at all.
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Recently changed to overcome kernel 2.0 and have changed to bfq. All stiull running smoothly.
And yeah i have mine all set to set at boot.

Thanks! Was looking for this.

I copied your settings to the last detail (bfq scheduler) and my Tab is crashing.
Now I am trying with lower UV.

braby said:
I copied your settings to the last detail (bfq scheduler) and my Tab is crashing.
Now I am trying with lower UV.
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Sorry buddy its been ages I should probably update this. I find that overcome has gottan alot better I still use the same undervolting but no profiles on set CPU. Just set to 100 min and1400 Max ondemand. I can use bfq and have no issues but one thing I know for sure, and I think it was even stated in this thread, no 2 of these are the same... same deal with more strain on the CPU than others so if my settings didn't work for you I'm sorry for that but all I can suggest is what I did to find the right setting... experiment, trial and error...
Best of luck,
Nobleskill

I found out what I did wrong...on Screen Off profile I didn't set "Performance" scaling, instead I did "Conservative"...the Tab was only crashing when screen was off!
Now that I switched it to performance it works just fine...
Using Overcome 1.4.2...
What's has better battery life, now that you have experience with both, with the profiles mentioned above or "On Demand" with no profiles?

That's a tough one as I use my tab a whole heap more and for many more things. I have 3 times as Widgets and so on... put it this way I used to get 2 days with low to moderate use on the setting in this thread, now with extremely heavy usage, I'm talking 8 hours or more almost straight with web browsing, ebooks, video, music, news ect...
I like my new set up cause its alot easier to configure and I find the most important aspect to battery life is the undervolting... overcrowded seems to handle the just fine. The only other thing I really swear by is an app like juice defender or battery boost.. set them up and its turning things off when not used which can be massive...
Hope this has helped and I'm happy to hear you sorted the crash issue.
Nobleskill

Battery Life Suggestions - Please Post SetCPU Config's Please

Good Morning Thunderbolt Community:
I am looking for the best way to extend my battery life, I have a 2750 Extended battery and still only get a little over a day of battery life. I've read that some folks are using SetCPU again, and would like a thread dedicated to those who want to share their settings to benefit others....
Thanks in advance...ChiefDroid (a.k.a Chiefd23)

Running chingys 3d rom runing set cpu st 1113 max 368 min no profiles and st the end of my 12 hour day I have 70% left. have any more questions lemme know

Liquid gingersense 1.6. Imoseyons 3.5 kernel on extreme mode. Verizon 2750 battery. I get 50 hours easy with a lot of phone usage.

Gingeritis 3D beta VI, ziggys kernel set at 245/1.344 smartass gov, with script fusion (set cpu can be a big no no with some kernels, and id rather use scripts anyway) . I get 20+ hours with average use on a stock battery.
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Pureasoptheory 1.3x modded imo kernel (stock with rom) setcpu at 1222/245 interactive and a profile for less than 30% @745/245 avg is around 24 hours on stock battery with low to moderate use, maybe a couple youtube videos lots of texting a few calls and lots of web browsing.
Edit: about 50% of the time I'm on wifi vs. 4g to clarify.

M0N0LITHTH3ORY. 245/1024 extreme battsaver. Standard battery. Lucky to get 8 hours. Best battery life of any rom for me so far. Average an hour of calls, 100 texts, TweetDeck and friendcaster pretty much every hour, words with friends, and web browsing.
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Hack3dao5p by dhacker29. 12 hours and I'm at 80% NO UNDERVOLTING. I will undervolt with vipermod tomorrow and report back. Don't use setCPU. Use vipermod or speedtweak. I recommend vipernod for more control.

Just plug it in every night. I can get 2 days out of my extended battery but what's the point??? Have fun with it instead of worrying about getting more than one day of battery out of it!
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pitchblack86 said:
M0N0LITHTH3ORY. 245/1024 extreme battsaver. Standard battery. Lucky to get 8 hours. Best battery life of any rom for me so far. Average an hour of calls, 100 texts, TweetDeck and friendcaster pretty much every hour, words with friends, and web browsing.
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Same here on all accounts
xTFGx said:
Hack3dao5p by dhacker29. 12 hours and I'm at 80% NO UNDERVOLTING. I will undervolt with vipermod tomorrow and report back. Don't use setCPU. Use vipermod or speedtweak. I recommend vipernod for more control.
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I think I might make the switch! How much use? light, mod, heavy?

M0N0LITHTH3ORY straight out of the box, I'm getting close to 20 hours with 20% left for the first time ever. 4g when I'm out and WIFI at home. Like I said in the MONO thread this ROM is the best out there. oh yeah stock battery too. Thanks DT!

This is by no stretch of the imagination an Android development thread.

Fits better in General. I've moved it there.
Continue.

I haven't used SetCPU on my Tbolt in a while. My config is in my sig and my settings are implemented through ScriptFusion. The following is the settings I'm using in ScriptFusion. The first image is the clock/voltage settings, the second image is time-in-state. As you see, it spends most of it's time sipping .8 volts or less. As long as I'm not tapping glass like a mad man, eeking out a full day on the stock battery isn't terribly difficult.
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justavillain said:
Same here on all accounts
I think I might make the switch! How much use? light, mod, heavy?
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Mod-heavy mostly internet jtexting and Facebook with a few phonecalls here and there. GPS off

i use gingeritis 3d, wifi when im home, and when im out, i only activate mobile data if i wanna check my fb or look something up. cpu is usually max 1113600 min 8064000 scaling powersaver, i also use chainfire's nightmode setting when im not actively using my thunderbolt (tested today and seamed to help alot), auto brightness on. at the end of the day on a stock battery i am usually at 20-10%

I flashed the newest radio turned off 4g and am running CL3ANTH3ROY and i got 20 hrs on the charge off of 1.0. Im on 1.1 now at about 14.5 hrs on mod/heavy use with a little 4g use in there.
I know if you do not have 4g in your area all the time turning that off is a MANOR battery saver. If you didnt know go *#*#4636#*#*phone identity, scroll down and choose cdma auto (prl)
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z06mike said:
Just plug it in every night. I can get 2 days out of my extended battery but what's the point??? Have fun with it instead of worrying about getting more than one day of battery out of it!
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This.
I charge mine every night and it makes through the whole day no matter what I throw at it. I keep email on push notifications and gps/sync on all the time. 4G is on all the time. None of those are ever turned off.
Why? Because that's how smartphones are supposed to be used! It's not a marathon race.
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Can I just make a quick comment about freq_min, freq_max, and governors? I like to equate them to a car's engine. At idle (freq_min), it's should be just loafing along, doing the least needed to keep things going. At red line (freq_max), it's chugging down the fuel and kicking out all the horsepower possible to haul that ride down the road. And your governor is kinda like your cruise control. You're cruising across Nebraska, not a hill in sight (you're phone is doing nothing) and it's just BARELY tipping that throttle in to maintain. But, you hit Colorado with those big ol' hills, and now it's flooring it, letting off, then flooring it again to get over those hills. Think of those hills like you making your phone do stuff.
Here's my point:
When you set your freq_min to 800MHz with, it's like running your engine at 5000RPM, all the time, regardless of load. Setting your freq_max at 800MHz is kinda like jamming a stop under your throttle so it will never make enough power to pull you over those big hills. The idea of a governor is to throttle the speed up and down relative to the load... kinda like your cruise control. Some could do it better, some have very limited real-world application (performance and powersave), and some are pretty much ideal. It really depends on how the dev has set them up or how you've tweaked them.
I post this because I'm looking at some of the setting some of you are using and I KNOW they could be more efficient. I would encourage you to look at your time-in-state and experiment with your freq_min, freq_max, and gov. As you can tell from mine, though I have my max set at 1.49GHz, it spends VERY little time up there. It's more like the nitrous shot if things get real hairy and the system needs the extra power.

i currently use BURNTH3ORYX V1.5 w/ the MR3.5 (802) radio, also have the 2750mAh battery, and i just use the built in "performance" option. I set it to 'OnDemand' and overclock to 1.5 Jigga Hertz.
for example, last night the battery was at 100% and decided to watch the movie "Return Of The Living Dead" all the way through. when it was done, the battery was at 95%.

Skyrocket Benchmarks [12/29 - New Battery Info!]

I thought it was worth starting a thread specifically for data concerning the Skyrocket stats. For other folks posting, OC'd scores are welcome, but please also provide info on your OC frequency. Quadrant scores are pretty good random number generaters, but that's about it. If you want to post them, that's fine, but the variance is so high it's worthless trying to actually use them for reliable benchmarks. Several others are far better. (CF-Bench, Passmark, Antutu, etc.)
CF-Bench is a nice benchmark - only a 2-3% variation in the tests I've done so far, although there aren't any graphics tests unfortunately. There are several posts in this thread with CF-Bench results for comparison.
Monjori really pushes the GPU shader, is repeatable, and doesn't really depend on the CPU speeds that much. Thanks to Da_G for pointing it out.
[Update 12/29/2011] - More Battery Information (T989)
I recently purchased a battery from amazon (based on the comments that it was fully compatible with the Skyrocket.) Samsung ET-CGPK004GSTA T-Mobile SGH-T989 Battery Charger with Stand
The results have been amazing, with over 74 hours of battery life in my first test. Granted this was with light use, but the battery life has been by far consistently better than the one that my phone came with. Has anyone purchased this battery and had the same level of success? I seem to remember having to clear out the battery stats, but once I did, everything worked just fine.
Note that the serial numbers are slightly different, but all of the specifications seem to be identical otherwise. I didn't check to see if NFC was working however, it's not something I'm likely going to use.
Additional details are in post #56 of this thread, but I'll post the screenshot here. (Note that the desk charger I purchased also comes with the battery.)
[Update 12/10/2011] - Battery Information
It's been a while now since I've posted, so I'll try and clean up some of the misconceptions about the battery in the Skyrocket.
The below results are using Da_G's Kernel release 0.3. They are going to be somewhat better than stock, given that I was using both CPU profiles for Under/Over clocking to boost battery/performance respectively, but it was also a fairly high workload with an hour or so of GPS usage while driving, Performance Testing, long screen display times, and so forth.
To cut to the chase, From 100% to 10% Battery, I hit 31 hours in this test. Theoretically I could have received considerably more on another test when I had very light usage (26 hours from 100 -> 45%), I had to charge my phone for a trip the next day so I didn't finish it up.
On to the screenshots!
Total time and Utilization graph:
Time spent in each state:
End of test:
Estimated JuiceDefender Savings:
Current JuiceDefender Settings. These are hopefully close to what I used during the test, but I'd forgotten to take a screenshot. Hopefully they are close.
[Update: 11/20/2011] - Monjori scores, DA_G's OC kernel 0.4-pre.
(No screenshots here since they just show the FPS after the test.)
Stock Freq, ondemand : 47 FPS
Stock Freq, performance : 51 FPS
1809 Mhz, ondemand, 48 FPS
1809 Mhz, performance, 51 FPS
Scores from Da_G, same kernel:
Current tweaks are pushing 6700 in Antutu, 8200 in CF-Bench and 51 fps in monjori. These are currently the only benchmarks I am validating the kernel against as they are very repeatable (all tests within margin of error) unlike Quadrant!
Those scores are at 1.809GHz OC, on my 0.4pre kernel
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[Update: 11/19/2011] - CF Bench Scores
This is using Da_G's OC kernel .3 @ 1.782 Ghz. Nice results with a linear ramp up in scores - what you'd expect with a reliable benchmark that mostly factors in CPU. I'm having some stability issues with graphics benchmarks, but there should be a fix out for it soon. I'm not going to bother with Quadrant - just glancing at the Dev thread shows wild variations in scores, exactly the same as what I saw. Gotta love those 1980's apple II style graphics though!
Another nice feature of this kernel is a stable 54 Mhz frequency! This means great battery savings.
[Update: 11/13/2011] - CF Bench Scores, Stock kernel.
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[Update: 11/9/2011] - Passmark scores
I was originally going to post data from mobilebenchmark.net showing our results vs. the SGH-I777, then I looked closer and saw the charts were based on one sample. It's a good benchmark, currently in beta, and I'd encourage folks to get it from the market and submit some results. My results were 1660, or 8.2% higher than the OGS2 (based on 41 samples). I'd be interested in seeing what other people get.
This benchmark certainly has much more realistic tests than Quadrant. At least for now the SGH-I727 is one of the fastest phones available. I'm a little surprised we beat them out on the 3D graphics ranking (keep in mind this is still beta software) but at least it's a much more realistic test of what these phones are capable of doing. I'd be interested in the specific score breakdowns here to see how the CPU tests were broken down.
Main Site
Overall scores
3D Graphics Rating
Original Post:
Just wanted to get some benchmark scores and screenshots. If you have the OGS2 and would post benchmarks for comparison, I'd appreciate it. (Screenies as well so all the numbers can be compared.)
Quadrant seemed whacked to me - it was giving me scores all over the place, both low and high.
Best AnTuTu benchmark run: 5956
Some battery history. Basically around 10 hours of battery time went from 100% to 25%. It was fairly idle after 6pm, but I did some moderately heavy benchmarking at one point and had > 1hr at full clock frequency. This was largely at 50% brightness, wireless/bluetooth/gps/sync all on.
I'll grab and post more benchmarks tomorrow.

AnTuTu Benchmark over 6000! (Also a reserved post for later)

For some reason drocap shows in red.
5849
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gharris040604 said:
For some reason drocap shows in red.
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I was using ScreenShot by Kastor Soft, which has worked for me with everything so far.

Skyrocket Screen comparison pictures
The OpenGL test is beautiful, and it was capping at the Vsync rate a fair amount of the time. Tons smoother than the Quadrant benchmark even though there was a huge amount more detail in the graphics. That convinces me even more that Quadrant is out of date. Unfortunately you can't get your actual results on that test without logging in to a website that didn't have a registration button, so I just skipped it for now.
So lets look at the screen display sizes and pixels. I don't have an OGS2 any more since I traded it for the Skyrocket, so for comparison I took pictures of my Captivate. (Ironically I took the captivate pictures with my Skyrocket since it was better than my old camera). The last picture was taken with my SLR camera.
One thing I saw right away was a difference if you use a downloaded font on the Skyrocket. They were crisper when seen from normal viewing distance it seemed like. Personally I'm quite happy with the screen anyway, but it did make a difference.
To my eye anyway, you can see some difference ... but only if you are so close up it's impractical. (For those of us with binocular vision anyway who read more than an inch away from the screen ... just sayin.)
Admittedly though there is some difference in vibrancy that I really can't reproduce by taking a picture with my limited equipment. I really only notice it when I switch from one phone to the other, or see them side by side.
First the Captivate. It's definitely crisp, and even the close up shot shows the very smooth letters.:
Similar picture of the Skyrocket:
Close view of Skyrocket:
Standard viewing distance:

Quadrant benchmarks
I have been very torn whether to take back my OGSGSII until I spent an
hour with the Skyrocket at the At&t store. It felt a bit laggy, the camera was
slower and the screen was definitely not as sharp. Text was fuzzy, the screen
did not seam as bright on the same settings and on lighter colored screens,
you could see the pixels. I am staying with my OGSGSII.

shootthis said:
I have been very torn whether to take back my OGSGSII until I spent an
hour with the Skyrocket at the At&t store. It felt a bit laggy, the camera was
slower and the screen was definitely not as sharp. Text was fuzzy, the screen
did not seam as bright on the same settings and on lighter colored screens,
you could see the pixels. I am staying with my OGSGSII.
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If we don't get dev support in the next week or so this thing will go back. It's for sure laggy I agree but I love the screen on it.
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then you probably will be taking it back. Without the source code there will be no dev support.

shootthis said:
I have been very torn whether to take back my OGSGSII until I spent an
hour with the Skyrocket at the At&t store. It felt a bit laggy, the camera was
slower and the screen was definitely not as sharp. Text was fuzzy, the screen
did not seam as bright on the same settings and on lighter colored screens,
you could see the pixels. I am staying with my OGSGSII.
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People have been saying factory resets helped with the screen hitches. I know mine improved after removing the bloatware. For me full brightness is just too bright (on both devices) so I was usually using an Auto or 50% setting. Whether or not you like the screen is entirely subjective, and if you like the OSGS2, by all means, keep that one. (although at normal distance I'm certainly not seeing more pixellation).
I for one don't miss the Vlingo button lag!
The Quadrant scores (for me) have just been way too inconsistent for me to think it's reliable (1600 - 3500+). Here's screenshots of runs not long after you posted. (Scores at 3416, 3554, and 3710). Since it benches better than the OSGS2 scores you posted you wouldn't expect it to feel laggy. Actually this is the first time I've ran it since removing bloatware and it's faster than ever. Stock kernel and frequencies.
If we don't get dev support in the next week or so this thing will go back. It's for sure laggy I agree but I love the screen on it.
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I'm not sure that's a realistic timeframe. Up to you, but I'd say factory reset and start removing bloatware obviously. Yeah, it's more work than flashing a ROM and have it all done for you, but to me it's part of the fun. At least I'm learning something instead of just knowing how to fire up Odin correctly.
We have CWM and root, so it's not like we can't properly use our phones for now. Even the OSGS2 took more than a week to get stable kernel's out the door and it had all the benefits of the international ROM's. But yeah, the OSGS2 will have more dev support no doubt. It's just a question of what's more important to you.

tejones36 said:
People have been saying factory resets helped with the screen hitches. I know mine improved after removing the bloatware. For me full brightness is just too bright (on both devices) so I was usually using an Auto or 50% setting. Whether or not you like the screen is entirely subjective, and if you like the OSGS2, by all means, keep that one. (although at normal distance I'm certainly not seeing more pixellation).
I for one don't miss the Vlingo button lag!
The Quadrant scores (for me) have just been way too inconsistent for me to think it's reliable (1600 - 3500+). Here's screenshots of runs not long after you posted. (Scores at 3416, 3554, and 3710). Since it benches better than the OSGS2 scores you posted you wouldn't expect it to feel laggy. Actually this is the first time I've ran it since removing bloatware and it's faster than ever. Stock kernel and frequencies.
I'm not sure that's a realistic timeframe. Up to you, but I'd say factory reset and start removing bloatware obviously. Yeah, it's more work than flashing a ROM and have it all done for you, but to me it's part of the fun. At least I'm learning something instead of just knowing how to fire up Odin correctly.
We have CWM and root, so it's not like we can't properly use our phones for now. Even the OSGS2 took more than a week to get stable kernel's out the door and it had all the benefits of the international ROM's. But yeah, the OSGS2 will have more dev support no doubt. It's just a question of what's more important to you.
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I know all about how well this does on benchmarks, I have a post with about every app that benchmarks and the results. I have gotten rid of what I think is bloat and its helped for sure but it's still not as smooth as the original but I knew that before I bought it, I just don't know if I can deal with that lag long term... I'll figure it out in the next 20+ days. Fantastic device for sure and still head over heels better than the 4s I had for two weeks.
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I know all about how well this does on benchmarks, I have a post with about every app that benchmarks and the results. I have gotten rid of what I think is bloat and its helped for sure but it's still not as smooth as the original but I knew that before I bought it, I just don't know if I can deal with that lag long term... I'll figure it out in the next 20+ days. Fantastic device for sure and still head over heels better than the 4s I had for two weeks.
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My benchmark's were in reply to shootthis' post, not yours ..
I recall your posts. We get the same results, but for whatever reason you are getting some kind of lag and I don't. Are you referring to that screen hitch when scrolling between screens?
Regardless, at some point the lag went away for my device. It's completely smooth, not that the slight hitch ever bothered me before. That's one reason why I can't remember when it completely went away.
I referred to your post for part of what I froze with TiBu, but there were differences. About the only other thing I can think of is I'm using setCPU profiles, and my default is the ondemand scheduler. I'm wondering if auto-brightness impacted one of my benchmarks, but probably not.
No clue. Hopefully someone will figure it out soon so we can put this thing to rest.

11/9 Update
Updated first post with Passmark benchmarks.
Horrible network speeds today - yes, I know speedtest.net isn't definitive. The main reason I ran it was that just the listing of forum posts (here) took forever to load while I was at lunch today. This was actually a faster benchmark than the server located in the city I live in ... So the poor data speed shown here was in line with what I was seeing qualitatively.

The funny thing is all of the quadrant score screenshots I posted were from the Skyrocket and not the OGSGSII.

shootthis said:
The funny thing is all of the quadrant score screenshots I posted were from the Skyrocket and not the OGSGSII.
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Funny how? It shows that Quadrant isn't a worthwhile test. I knew that already. My scores are within a few percent of each other with Passmark, not all over the place like with Quadrant. Sort of proves the point.

First attempt with CFbench
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First attempt with CFbench
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Nice, hadn't run across that benchmark yet. I'll pick it up!

Its a good one chain fire makes quality apps I use the pro just to support his work
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Here's mine as well...

In terms of battery..., yesterday i unplugged my phone in the morning ~9am, got to work at 10am, at work I stream high quality spotify over 4G to my BT headphones practically non stop + a 1hr tele conference over my phone
low battery warning came on at ~4:30 with the phone usage actually being the biggest drain at around 55%, screen and spotify were both less than 15%
overall I'm pretty happy with that, phone almost lasts as long as my headset will while streaming unplugged

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In terms of battery..., yesterday i unplugged my phone in the morning ~9am, got to work at 10am, at work I stream high quality spotify over 4G to my BT headphones practically non stop + a 1hr tele conference over my phone
low battery warning came on at ~4:30 with the phone usage actually being the biggest drain at around 55%, screen and spotify were both less than 15%
overall I'm pretty happy with that, phone almost lasts as long as my headset will while streaming unplugged
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After monitoring all the things using battery for a couple days, I removed the "bloat". I am a very heavy data and texting user, with maybe 20 minutes of calling. Today was the first day of being bloat free and I am at 15hrs since being unplugged and I still have 68%. I'm shocked and very happy. Lets see tomorrow if it was just a fluke..

Recommendations for kernel/ROM with good battery life

Hi,
I switched from my Galaxy S2 to a Note 3, and I'm immediately running into serious issues with battery life. After switching to low-power mode and after reconfiguring my SetCPU, I get about 16 hours with screen off and Wifi on. So, time to switch ROMs, and looking through the forum, I am unable to find any kernel/ROM comparison based upon battery life. Therefor would like to hear recommendations.
Have been looking at the X-Note, but besides a remark to pick the X-kernel for battery life for the v8.0 version, I am unable to find any info for the v7 JB version.
Looking forward hearing your experience.

geoff2011 said:
Hi,
I switched from my Galaxy S2 to a Note 3, and I'm immediately running into serious issues with battery life. After switching to low-power mode and after reconfiguring my SetCPU, I get about 16 hours with screen off and Wifi on. So, time to switch ROMs, and looking through the forum, I am unable to find any kernel/ROM comparison based upon battery life. Therefor would like to hear recommendations.
Have been looking at the X-Note, but besides a remark to pick the X-kernel for battery life for the v8.0 version, I am unable to find any info for the v7 JB version.
Looking forward hearing your experience.
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X-Note is a good choice, X-Note is one of the reasons why I bought a note 3(Since he was developing for note 2 first but went over to the note 3). Changing DPI is manditory for me. Default DPI is for my grandpa so he can read the screen without glasses -.-. Batterylife is quite good for me. Haven't reached 40% after a day yet.

Armazia said:
X-Note is a good choice, X-Note is one of the reasons why I bought a note 3(Since he was developing for note 2 first but went over to the note 3). Changing DPI is manditory for me. Default DPI is for my grandpa so he can read the screen without glasses -.-. Batterylife is quite good for me. Haven't reached 40% after a day yet.
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Thank you for the info. May I ask which version you're using, the JB (7.0) or KitKat (8.0)? And, what is the X-Note Transformer compared to v7.0?
And, most important, which kernel are you suing?

Mate if you are getting 16 hrs of screen off time and no screen on time, it is not a Kernel/ROM problem, you have a rogue app installed which is causing your phone to be constantly awake and draining battery.
Definetly go for the 4.4 since it updates to KitKat which offers many benefits. There are also slight improvements in battery life.
As for the ROMs I've tested all Custom ROMs and honestly it's about preference. Check the additions they provide and decide what's best for you. I'm a battery nut and believe me none of the ROMs add any actual benefit to battery life over stock for 4.4.
Personally for me, since I love a lean install and don't like that much modifications I found Stock Samsung 4.4 works best for me. I just use ES file explorer to debloat it from all the apps I don't want and procede to installing the apps I use I've found that you can expect around 6.5 hours of on screen time with auto brightness +5 and no rogue apps (no apps that require constant gps syncying and what not) spread over from 1 to 3 days depending on how you use your phone. That is light web browsing, chatting and movie watching. Games will suck your battery dry like space fuel on the Note 3.
As for the Kernel on the 4.4 bootloader you don't have a lot of choices. Afaik the only ones available at the moment and CustomN3 and FlexKat engine. Considering you are asking for battery life I'm guessing you are more interested in power perserving than overclocking. I would go with FlexKat since it supports intelliplug and intellidemand gov. Actually I am testing it at the moment my self. I get 1k more points in AnTuTu using intelliplug and intellidemand compardd tl Stock Kernel. Seems pretty smooth and stable for now, haven't run in any issues but I've only been uskng it since last night. Battery usage for now is 35%, with 2.5 hours of screen time and over 16 hours of total since uplugged. Can't really compare to Stock Kernel yet but it doesn't seem like there will be any major difference.

I tried all roms actually, But nothing suited me. Till I jouned x-note. From x-note 7 I waited till 8, and installed it the same day it came. 8 is super stable, havent had problems(except for some apps which arent compatible with kitkat).

Thanks for the feedback, which I highly appreciate. I must admit being kind of a battery freak too, and I like a UI to be simple and practical. My golden rule is that whenever I carry the mobile in my pocket, I don't care about speed. Just keep them as low as possible in order to keep running stable.
When I look at what's draining the battery then at the top are Cell Standby 18%, Android OS (4.3) 18%, Device Idle 11% and my K-9 email app which stays active 11%. And these numbers are with low power mode activated, and with SetCPU setting minimum frequencies with screen off (the stock kernel doesn't allow for a voltage configuration). When staying with the same OS 4.3, I may be able to improve this by maximum 30%, in going from 1.2V to 800 or 850 mV in standby.
I'll give the X-Note 4.4 a try, and using the X-kernel may then also be beneficial. Will report on the result.
Thanks

Sweet Rom for the stock-look custom rom, battery life is great!

arkin56 said:
Sweet Rom for the stock-look custom rom, battery life is great!
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That's a 2nd one on the list. Can you please be more specific about the battery life? How does it compare with what was mentioned for the X-Rom?

Armazia said:
I tried all roms actually, But nothing suited me. Till I jouned x-note. From x-note 7 I waited till 8, and installed it the same day it came. 8 is super stable, havent had problems(except for some apps which arent compatible with kitkat).
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Wanted to do the flash and ran into a question. I downloaded the Poland KitKat official ROM, but the poor thing is only 3 MB and when I try to open it, both windows and winrar, I get the message "unknown format". Is it maybe only a patch that's applied to the 4.3? But then I should still be able to open it. Any advice?

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Wanted to do the flash and ran into a question. I downloaded the Poland KitKat official ROM, but the poor thing is only 3 MB and when I try to open it, both windows and winrar, I get the message "unknown format". Is it maybe only a patch that's applied to the 4.3? But then I should still be able to open it. Any advice?
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Got it resolved. Only the MIRROR seems to give a reliable download.

Also try my battery saving tips here! Good Results!
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[GUIDE] Ultimate Battery Life For Note 3 [UPDATE:13/10/14]

Well, Saving your phone's battery without compromising your phone's performance will be a little difficult for everyone. Everyone nowadays prefer phones which can last them for atleast a day. But what if we could extend our phone's battery life to 1.5 days or 2 days without compromising the power of your phone?
Yup. That's possible. I've been experimenting with my Note III SM-N900 [Indian Exynos Model]. I did it for almost like 6 months. My aim was to maximize my phone's battery life. And finally I found it. I wanna share all my results and the secret tips to save that last precious drop of your battery juice!
[NOTE: [Please keep in mind that I own a Exynos Model, i.e, SM-N900 and made all the customization on this model only. Many methods explained herein might not work for you.]]
:victory:
So, first a few words on my phone's history:
When I first got my brave and good looking Note 3, I was on 7th heaven. I got Android 4.3 Jellybean onboard. I used to get 2 days of unparalleled battery life. Smooth UI. But, very few customization. Previously I used to own a Galaxy SII i9100G. It had a great potential and till date is considered as the most selling Galaxy Variant. But, still I was happy. Then came the wave of KitKat 4.4.2. Guys, you won't believe, I spent weeks in the dilemma of the fact - Should I root or not root. Should I first update and then root? Should I root and then update? I was going crazy.
But then I decided. No, I should first update via OTA and then root my phone. And then, I did it. But soon I realised that I did a wrong thing. I experienced very, very poor battery life. With 3G on and screen time of 3-4 hrs, my phone used to die. But then I thoguht, there's still hope. Thus, I spend a lot of days into finding the best customisation for improving the battery life. And after 6 months, now I finally got the best battery life.
Guys, another thing I would like to say here is that, there was a very good article on saving battery life before, made by stanley08. [READ IT HERE].
STEPS TO MAXIMIZE YOUR BATTERY LIFE
1. Kernel Customisations:
Well, as you all know, kernel is the thing that sits between your software and hardware. Doing optimal changes to it is the best way out there to save battery. First of all currently there are two best kernels out there. halaszk and pekaka. Both are absolutely amazing kernels and I found halaszk to offer a greater number of modifications. But for everyday use I use pekaka now. On the top, it doesn't matter that much. So, let's get started.
First of all, halaszk kernel comes with a very powerful tool called synapse. It allows you to individually set the frequencies, voltages, GPU speed etc.
If you wanna use pekaka, then use an app such as Trickster MOD app from PlayStore.
The main part comes now:
1. Reduce all A15 cores to -25 mv each.
2. Reduce all A7 cores to -13.5 mv each.
3. Use 0 as the parameter for Multicore Power Saving
4. Use Interactive or Ondemand governor.
5. Use CPU frequencies upto 1.3 or 1.4 GhZ.
6. Use GPU frequencies upto 340 or equivalent
That's the kernel part.
2. ROM:
Using custom rom might not be that important because almost all roms available now are either stock or MIUI. So, it won't make a difference. Still some roms might be slightly better.
One rom that I found was Alba's Ultralite roms. These roms have been developed by a russian developer. The thing that's really good in these roms is that, the Ultralite series weigh around 600-700 MB and are totally debloated. So, lesser the bloatware, lesser is the memory consumed and hence, lesser is the battery consumed.
Another rom to observe is Dr. Ketan's Rom series. Many users are satisfied with the balance of battery life and lots of customisations.
Some other good roms are Alliance ROM, and Murat ROMS. There might be many more roms with good battery life. Users may leave their comment below and I'll add them.
3. Memory:
Yup, more memory means more battery. Many would disagree with me but, I tried it out and saw amazing results. I would suggest you to use Clean Master to clear cache, memory and check out your phone's temperature.
4. USPM MOD:
Xperiacle, an amazing developer[And my fav!] has developed a module called UPSM mod. Ultra Power Saving Mode, was found in Galaxy S5. He did an amazing job and has developed this module, which allows you to activate UPSM or Emergency Mode. Doing this, will limit you to basic apps such as Phone, Whatssap, etc and will prove immensely helpful for saving battery. This is highly recommended for an y battery savvy. There's also another Xposed module which reduces NLP Kernel wakelocks, thus making your phone sleep better. Download it here.
5. Reception/Signal:
Believe it or not, this is the part that takes away a huge toll on your battery. If you have bad reception, you ought to have a bad battery life. I saw the results myself. On full signal, my phone's battery dropped to around 98% after 6 hrs standby whereas on 1 bar signal, I found my battery to be 82% after 6 hrs standby. this is because, your phone tries to continuously searches for better battery.
6. 3G/ WIFI:
Personally I found 3G to consume much more battery than WiFi. So, it is advisable to keep it turned off while not in use. If you get a simultaneous screen on time and total 3G usage time of 5-6 hrs, you're great! That's the best you can get.
7. Temperature:
Your phone's temperature makes a lot of difference. Many times you might have experienced your phone's temperature shooting up like a volcano! Well it happens when your CPU or GPU is put under a lot of stress. For example while playing a high quality game. Many times it happens when some background app freezes. So, try keeping your phone a bit cool! I mean, always check if any background apps are running continuously.
8. Greenify:
Hey, I am not talking about afforestation or something! I am talking about a wonderful app called Greenify. Now, what it does is, it freezes the background processes and apps [which you select], and thus frees up a lot of memory.
9. Debloat:
Yup, lot's of apps on your phone may slow it down and deteriorate your phone's battery. Try removing apps that you don't use anymore.
Also, another thing I would like to suggest you all, is to keep reflashing your rom every 2 to 3 months. This would ensure less momory clutter and defragmentation. Also, it would keep your phone running smooth. Also, as you might already know, AMOLED displays consume much battery for bright colors and brightness level of the screen. So, it's advisable to use dark wallpapers.
So, guys these were some of the customisations I used to achieve the perfect balance of battery life and performance. If you have any more idea or trick to save battery, do post it below. We'll keep this thread updated.
Thanks! And do share this thread with others.
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UPDATE:13/10/2014
Here are some amazing benchmarks of my friend/contributer @Spitwista
He has also come up with a great way to save battery.
Things to look at
1. 30 Minutes gaming(Real drifting)
2. 30 minutes music (power amp)
3. 7Hrs SOT
4. More than 24Hrs full run time
5. True deep sleep
6. Smooth and 100% stable all around
7. Using Halaszk kernel v20.b2
For now, check out these screenshots:
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Guys, I am currently testing on XXUENI1 the latest firmware. Will soon give the battery statistics.
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Till now, getting really amazing battery on XXUENI1
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thetitanium said:
Till now, getting really amazing battery on XXUENI1
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Screenshots or it didn't happen ?

r-l said:
Screenshots or it didn't happen ?
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Will give it soon.
EDIT:
Here are the screen shots. Love this firmware.
Note that I started monitoring from 85% and used mobile data all the time when WiFi wasn't on.

Will soon post a fresh screenshot.
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Im using MultiX ROM 2.0 with stock kernel. Amazing battery life, about 2 hours screen on time with 69% battery left. Im using greenify
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Im using MultiX ROM 2.0 with stock kernel. Amazing battery life, about 2 hours screen on time with 69% battery left. Im using greenify
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I believe MultiX is not for SM-N900..... Very less roms for exynos......
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thetitanium said:
7. Temperature:
Your phone's temperature makes a lot of difference. Many times you might have experienced your phone's temperature shooting up like a volcano! Well it happens when your CPU or GPU is put under a lot of stress. For example while playing a high quality game. Many times it happens when some background app freezes. So, try keeping your phone a bit cool!
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Just a minor thing - It's not the temperature that degrades battery life, but the applications that consume more resources, thereby also more battery and generating heat.

You are too much forcing yourself to lengthen the battery life while limiting yourself from users' accessibility and ease.
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No bro..... not at all.... even I clearly mentioned it in the OP. Read and then speak bro.
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Someguyfromhell said:
Just a minor thing - It's not the temperature that degrades battery life, but the applications that consume more resources, thereby also more battery and generating heat.
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Maannn..... please read the 7th point carefully. Nowhere did I mention that temperature degrades battery life. Please read things carefully and then say me what's wrong with my post.
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Let me tell all my findings from your post. I would like to say my assumtions so all may not be true.
1. You plugged in awhile AC power or USB cable to PC in between your process and thus it stretched out the battery for awhile.
2. You put in Airplane mode at the end and may be it has been since 10% battery life.
3. You increased the screen time while letting minimal CPU and GPU usage just by reading and browsing internet with chrome for a few mins. (May be brightness is set to 0)
4. I didnt see other applications such as facebook,whatsapp and so on ( you may have uninstalled them and even google play services)
For me, i didnt tweak anything about CPU or kernel. I just use official firmware, rooted and greenify only. Whenever i browse internet, i turn on 3G and then back to 2G with background applications such as viber, facebook,wechat with casuality and ease. My battery would last for a day with screen on time around 5 hrs and sometimes more than 5 hrs.
So my conclusion is your post doesn't intend for "Competition of Battery Life on Galaxy Note 3" . It should be a balance between battery life and users' accessibilty without limitations of the activities.
I appreciate your effort for this post but I dont mean to offend. I am sorry about my comment.

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Let me tell all my findings from your post. I would like to say my assumtions so all may not be true.
1. You plugged in awhile AC power or USB cable to PC in between your process and thus it stretched out the battery for awhile.
2. You put in Airplane mode at the end and may be it has been since 10% battery life.
3. You increased the screen time while letting minimal CPU and GPU usage just by reading and browsing internet with chrome for a few mins. (May be brightness is set to 0)
4. I didnt see other applications such as facebook,whatsapp and so on ( you may have uninstalled them and even google play services)
For me, i didnt tweak anything about CPU or kernel. I just use official firmware, rooted and greenify only. Whenever i browse internet, i turn on 3G and then back to 2G with background applications such as viber, facebook,wechat with casuality and ease. My battery would last for a day with screen on time around 5 hrs and sometimes more than 5 hrs.
So my conclusion is your post doesn't intend for "Competition of Battery Life on Galaxy Note 3" . It should be a balance between battery life and users' accessibilty without limitations of the activities.
I appreciate your effort for this post but I dont mean to offend. I am sorry about my comment.
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Now here's my clarification:
1. As I already said, I started monitoring from 85% after charging (see the pics)
2. I did put it on airplane mode for 10mins in the end. (Any person with just 2% battery will do)
3. Ya.... 3rd conclusion is true. I did everything ideal battery test guidelines as per GSMARENA. I even played a few games which didn't show up on the battery screen. Also, Whatsapp was on the whole time and my life is unimaginable without it.
4. My screen brightness was at 50% and 3g on for 4-5 hrs. I only use 3G.
Hope that classifies all your doubt. Will very soon post new battery results since the previous one was a bit controversial.
Many members of XDA are currently testing my settings and will soon give me the results. Thank you.
Sent from my amazing Exynos Note 3.

nice guide. thnaks

BiIIyTheKid said:
nice guide. thnaks
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Thanks bro...... Any suggestions or any more tips?
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Undervolting will make things unstable as I have heard. All I do is debloat and greenify.
That is with Facebook, Instagram on the background.
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Graffiti Exploit said:
Undervolting will make things unstable as I have heard. All I do is debloat and greenify.
That is with Facebook, Instagram on the background.
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See, undervolting my just a few mvs doesn't slow your phone down. That only happens when you under clock way more. By the way your phone seems quite good.
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Guys...... New Scripts, tips and settings are soon coming..... Keep checking.....
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