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Your actual "4G" data speeds

Ok.... So I got the Mytouch 4G, One of the main reasons for this (small reason) was because when I am at work, all I get is EDGE. Now... I still only get EDGE, And my top speeds at home on my 6th floor balcony are 2.2Mb/.8Mb, which are the same as my Fender mytouch 1.2. I am in West palm beach florida which is a 4g market.
Anyone else care to share their speeds? maybe someone around me lol. I just want to see if maybe there is something wrong, or if there really is no difference.

I'm in Indy here and I normally get around 2.5 - 3.5 mbps downstream. I am in an hspa+ area. Non HSPA+ devices will be just as fast as HSPA+ devices while in an hspa+ area except for the fact that non-HSPA has a ceiling of 7.2mbps.

My personal best is 6.1 Mbps but normally 3-4 Mbps on hspa+

Same as these guys 2-3megs. Saw 6.5 right next to a cell tower, but normally I never see that speed.
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I think there are a few posts about this. It looks like people are experiencing the same thing I experienced before the Orlando area was proper. Even before my myTouch 4G (prev. CliqXT, eww) I was getting 5 mbps and above. Getting about 8-10 mbps here consistently...
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I couldn't be happier with the speeds here in Orlando. Be patient, it wasn't always blazing fast around here.

I see an average of 3mb/s down, 1 up in the notoriously congested San Francisco area. My personal best is 5.11 down, 2.1 up. I only drop down to EDGE in a few of the tunnels under SF/Oakland, otherwise it's 3/4G all the time. Pretty happy. Verizon was good, T-Mob seems comparable so far w/ a bit more speed when on 4G (for about $30/month less on my bill). And don't get me started how many million times better this is than my horrible year with AT&T! Ahhh! Ahhhhhhhhhhh!

I've seen 10 several time here on san antonio. Average 6-7
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Scottsdale AZ - average of 2-3 with best of 6.3 .6
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If there was poor coverage in your area in the first place with 3G/Edge, getting a 4G phone isn't going to make you have better coverage. It simply boosts the speed in the area, not the coverage area itself.. You need to have good coverage to take advantage of good speeds. The remedy to your problem would be if they added a tower closer to your home I think.

my best is 4 - 5 in walnut creek but usually its around 2 - 3.

My personal best is 6+ on speedtest.net, but I average about 2-3.

itmustbejj said:
I'm in Indy here and I normally get around 2.5 - 3.5 mbps downstream. I am in an hspa+ area. Non HSPA+ devices will be just as fast as HSPA+ devices while in an hspa+ area except for the fact that non-HSPA has a ceiling of 7.2mbps.
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This is incorrect. You see, even though the phone is "capable" of 7.2, it will NEVER reach that. That is a theoretical speed. You would have to be in absolute perfect conditions to reach those speeds. I don't even want to get into that, but lets just say that simply repositioning yourself around the tower alone can affect your data rates. The HSPA+ phones are more capable of higher speeds so they will overall have better speeds.
If your using a Nexus One (a non plus phone) then you will typically top out at 5Mbps, in fact, I know you willl NEVER get better than that. If your on the MT4G, you will typically top out at 10Mbps.
Lets not forget site load either. Now that we have HSPA+ networks, T-Mobile is selling more and more of their 3G and 4G phones and the networks are getting more loaded down therefore your data rates will not peak at 10Mbps during peak hours. Try your data tests during non peak hours (between 12am-5am) and check your results. My tower is at a Middle School. During the day I average 2.5-4Mbps but right now i hit 6.0-6.9Mbps because all the kiddies are home and most people are not on their phone at 11pm.

Wow.... Thanks for the replies guys. Ive heard the orlando speeds are awesome. Im still topping it out 2.8mbps at a server about 20min from me. We just got 4g in this area not to long ago, so updating of the cell towers I do think is in serious need.
Im also thinking the reason for only getting EDGE in my work, is because its a pretty old building, im sure its still lined with lead paint and asbestos lol... Blocking the signal, When I go out side away from it, it goes back up to H. Should probably speed test it when I get to work tomorrow before I go inside.

setzer715 said:
This is incorrect. You see, even though the phone is "capable" of 7.2, it will NEVER reach that. That is a theoretical speed. You would have to be in absolute perfect conditions to reach those speeds. I don't even want to get into that, but lets just say that simply repositioning yourself around the tower alone can affect your data rates. The HSPA+ phones are more capable of higher speeds so they will overall have better speeds.
If your using a Nexus One (a non plus phone) then you will typically top out at 5Mbps, in fact, I know you willl NEVER get better than that. If your on the MT4G, you will typically top out at 10Mbps.
Lets not forget site load either. Now that we have HSPA+ networks, T-Mobile is selling more and more of their 3G and 4G phones and the networks are getting more loaded down therefore your data rates will not peak at 10Mbps during peak hours. Try your data tests during non peak hours (between 12am-5am) and check your results. My tower is at a Middle School. During the day I average 2.5-4Mbps but right now i hit 6.0-6.9Mbps because all the kiddies are home and most people are not on their phone at 11pm.
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That is a really good point. In west palm beach, theres... well millions of people unfortunately lol. And tmobile is huge here with stores about every 10- 20 miles from each other. So clogged pipes makes a lot of sense. I will try it a few times through the day. But its 1am here and still getting same speed so lol

crypysmoker said:
That is a really good point. In west palm beach, theres... well millions of people unfortunately lol. And tmobile is huge here with stores about every 10- 20 miles from each other. So clogged pipes makes a lot of sense. I will try it a few times through the day. But its 1am here and still getting same speed so lol
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Strange that at 1am your still not getting better speeds. Maybe your servicing site hasn't been optimized yet. Or its possible your in a pocket that doesn't work as well (which sucks) but remember I was saying that speeds will be effected at different positions around the tower.
When your talking about download speeds equal to or in excess of cable and dsl EVERYTHING in EVERY way affects the data rates.
I hope the speeds get better for you, but honestly, I don't know what to do with my 7Mbps I have now!

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Anyone else care to share their speeds?
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Varies, in the Birmingham area 10 Mbps was the highest down speed I've seen (1 Mbps up seems to be a cap, not sure why), 8 more typical when I got really high speed. At home I had been getting about 0.3 Mbps down, but I just checked it...wait, Y5 turned my wireless back on (I'm dumping it, it is a PITA and a bit buggy), so the 16.2 is from the cable modem (nice). Turning wireless off: 0.85 down, 0.54. Shucks.
I used speedtest.net's flash tester.

Broke my personal best (6.1Mbps) yesterday with a 6.5Mbps and 7.9Mbps on back to back runs.

Varies here in Fort Lauderdale FL. Best was 5 down. But usually 2 to 3 down. Sucks but I came from a unlocked iPhone with only edge speeds on it so I can't complain especially since I'm sure its only due to my area.
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I'm in Kansas City and cruise all over town,i have never seen above 1.3mb down. 85% of the time it is .6 down. WTF is up with that, as usual they act dumb when trying to get help and no call back two weeks after service ticket. We all need to sign up for the class action suit, my t-mobile bill equals a car payment. Shouldn't I be able to use the service? LoL
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crappy cellular data

I have a problem with every ROM except TPC's in that I get crappy HSDPA and HSUPA speeds. In TPC's V2 I get 3 mbps down and 1.3 up with 85 dBm reception. In LeeDroid, AR, and CM7 with the same 85 dBm (doesn't matter which radio or how the build.prop is configed) I get 1 mbps down and .2 up. I do not understand and it is driving me up the wall. If I can get cellular data working properly on CM7 stable I will be as happy as a crackhead that got crushed by a giant crack rock.

my data is never consistent I blame that on att. There was three days straight I got nothing more then 56k down and 5k up. Then there are days I get anywhere from 5mb down to 1 mb down. I don't think it has anything to do with the rom or radio as much as it does with att's crappy network.

Anyone else experiencing slow 4G speeds?

I've been browsing the web normally and started noticing a drop off in loading speed. So since then I've been playing with SpeedTest every now and then, and I'm averaging less than 2.4mbps down and 1.1mbps up. Often times its less (for today anyways). Normally I pull speeds at around 5mbps-12mbps (advertised speed) and around 2-3mbps in the same areas. (Primarily Oakland and Berkeley, CA)
Just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this today?
Updated the radio, thought that was the problem. Then restored to my old radio, and same problem. I started getting 4G drops, with ehrpd up. Been playing around with LTE only, and enabling Rev. A. Regardless my speeds are a bit sluggish to say the least.

It's always slow. I live in los Angeles.
^_^_^

In NYC speeds dip down to 10mbps during the peak hours in Manhattan, but in Queens and Brooklyn I still get 35-50mbps all day long.

[Q] are the HSPA tecnologies independants?

If my carrier has a HSPA+ 42Mb network, and I have a smartphone with a HSPA+ 42Mb radio and my speed is around 25-30 Mb for example, that means that any other smartphone with a 21, 14.4 and 7.2 HSPA radio should be surfing at their top (theoretical) speed?

HSPA an HSPA+ have inherent problems. If you are getting anywhere near 8Mbps please post a screenshot. More likely that you get between 2-6 Mbps with 170-300 latency or ping and your indoor coverage is worse. This is due to 2 reasons. One, HSPA+ is only 3G with a bit more bandwidth and two, the frequency is 1800mhz or greater which means even a simple window can worsen signal strength.
HSPA+ is not an independent technology, but is a licensed technology making it limited by regulations. Many carriers are using it until their LTE matures. LTE operates at up to 10X the speed, allows double the cells using data, half the cost to the carrier, and a latency around 100 for more responsive sessions. The major players in LTE right now is Seimens out of Germany and Lucent ehre in the states. Their test dummy is Verizon who has 64% of the wold wide LTE market and this is being passed onto Vodofone, an others. In the states ATT has now contracted Seimens and a lesser known company who supplies the core equipment to develop their network. Right now ATT stands at 7% of the world market in LTE.

boosterp said:
HSPA an HSPA+ have inherent problems. If you are getting anywhere near 8Mbps please post a screenshot. More likely that you get between 2-6 Mbps with 170-300 latency or ping and your indoor coverage is worse. This is due to 2 reasons. One, HSPA+ is only 3G with a bit more bandwidth and two, the frequency is 1800mhz or greater which means even a simple window can worsen signal strength.
HSPA+ is not an independent technology, but is a licensed technology making it limited by regulations. Many carriers are using it until their LTE matures. LTE operates at up to 10X the speed, allows double the cells using data, half the cost to the carrier, and a latency around 100 for more responsive sessions. The major players in LTE right now is Seimens out of Germany and Lucent ehre in the states. Their test dummy is Verizon who has 64% of the wold wide LTE market and this is being passed onto Vodofone, an others. In the states ATT has now contracted Seimens and a lesser known company who supplies the core equipment to develop their network. Right now ATT stands at 7% of the world market in LTE.
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Very good words, very informative, I really apreciate it. But I was looking for some light about what I asked.
As You can see in my signature I got 6.67Mbps with a ping of 121, and my phone was on 3G not even on H(HSDPA), and this video shows high speed with the Huawe E372(not in my country, I just found it on youtube).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PUawx4Au_8&feature=related
here in Dominican republic Orange dominicana had a 14.4Mbps HSDPA network, and now they claim they have a 42Mbps HSPA+ network working in Santo domingo and Santiago and coming soon in other areas.
So, my question is, if I get speeds over 21Mbps, let say between 25-30Mbps, that would mean I will get the top speed in devices with a 21, 14.4 and 7.2 Mbps radios? or I could get 25Mbps with devices with a 42Mbps HSPA+ radio (Huawei E372, for example), and get less than 14.4Mbps in devices with a 14.4Mbps radio, etc?
note: I tried to use the youtube feature but didn't work.

A little tougher to answer based on the specific set up in your country. I only gave a background as example or foo for thought regarding HSPA+. I would venture to guess that you could potentially hit that 25Mbps mark depending on traffic, network conditions, interference, and base equipment. If you are within 2 km of a tower and not in a null sector of the broadcast with no interference it would be possible but mostly at burst speed an not sustained. Let me know what develops, PM me with your speeds when you can test it.

Is LTE good for you guys?

So I live about 40 minutes out of Washington DC and my LTE has never been all that great, I never saw the big deal. I get about 1 mBps down and it drains battery incredibly fast. HSPA+ is basically just as fast and used less battery. However, this weekend I took a trip to Atlanta and I ran a speed test and got 3.5 mBps down and the battery drained at a very nice rate. I was pleasantly surprised. So just want to hear if LTE is actually as advertised for y'all. I'm on AT&T, so not sure how it will differ for you those of you outside of the US.

Sounds like your local LTE strength is weak. That will indeed kill your battery.
Most places I go, I get decent signal strength and at least 10 Mbps. Battery life is fine unless I get stuck in a dead spot.

My home town (Jefferson City Missouri) just turned on LTE at the beginning of the month. I average about 10Mbps down and my fastest has been about 25Mbps down. Battery life is slightly less than HSPA+, but not much worse.

It depends on the location. LTE is suppose support more connections effectively. However, a tower could be down. If you are getting different speeds in different locations then it ma lay be the tower. Also, you said you live 40mins away. That plays a factor. I live 45mijs away from Nashville, but that is because the drive is on the interstate going 70, not like down the street.
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In Melbourne Australia Telstra LTE is great.
Get around 30 mbps inbound and 18-20 mbps outbound.
Signal strength is 4 - 5 bars and battery drain is pretty much the same as with HSDPA

iElvis said:
Sounds like your local LTE strength is weak. That will indeed kill your battery.
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Yup, def sounds like OP is in a fringe reception area. I often get over 20 Mbps on LTE, and sometimes over 30 Mbps (depending on work or home location), and battery life is very good (often get close to 48 hours with low usage). But the LTE coverage in my area seems very good.
LTE has also done wonders for the data connection at my house. I'm almost always on WiFi at home, but when I've had to fall back to cell network data, it was absolutely awful on HSPA+. On HSPA+, I was getting really slow data speed, 1 Mbps at best, and often a fraction of that, with frequent dropouts just trying to browse webpages. Now on LTE, its rock solid and the speed is excellent (not as good as at my work, but over 15 Mbps).
Everyone's experience is going to be different, depending on location. Some people actually get comparable or even higher speeds on HSPA+, and better battery life. But they are probably not in good reception areas.

Let's not forget building structures, population, and weather. There is a lotbof factors that play a part in reception. I did a speed test on HSDPA plus, and I got 6mb up and 3 down. I haven't done it on LTE yet. But the speed seems faster than my WiFi when I do travel to Nashville.
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Herc08 said:
Let's not forget building structures, population, and weather. There is a lotbof factors that play a part in reception. I did a speed test on HSDPA plus, and I got 6mb up and 3 down. I haven't done it on LTE yet. But the speed seems faster than my WiFi when I do travel to Nashville.
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If I'm not mistaken, HSPA doesn't go that fast. Sounds like you got your test in megabits not megabytes. There's eight megabits in a megabyte.

RollTribe said:
If I'm not mistaken, HSPA doesn't go that fast. Sounds like you got your test in megabits not megabytes. There's eight megabits in a megabyte.
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I was on my phone, and did not feel like going for the "+" logo. As you can see it says "HSPA plus." Also, I have the app set up to show MB, not MiB.

I have LTE turned off and i've noticed i get atleast an hour extra of screen time due to this.
Still am able to stream pandora on my hourly commute.
AT&T LTE is on and off in my area. I think they're testing it.

Herc08 said:
I was on my phone, and did not feel like going for the "+" logo. As you can see it says "HSPA plus." Also, I have the app set up to show MB, not MiB.
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Alright, I just thought the max HSPA+ could go was 42 Mbps which is just over 5 mBps

RollTribe said:
So I live about 40 minutes out of Washington DC and my LTE has never been all that great, I never saw the big deal. I get about 1 mBps down and it drains battery incredibly fast. HSPA+ is basically just as fast and used less battery. However, this weekend I took a trip to Atlanta and I ran a speed test and got 3.5 mBps down and the battery drained at a very nice rate. I was pleasantly surprised. So just want to hear if LTE is actually as advertised for y'all. I'm on AT&T, so not sure how it will differ for you those of you outside of the US.
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I'm on att in Portland Oregon area. LTE everywhere and screams, connection is far quicker down and up on LTE vs my home broadband WiFi , even out does my laptop streaming Netflix...
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I just got lte where I live in Alabama and I'm getting 25 down and about 7 or 8 up
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I live in Arlington, VA 3 miles from DC and I'm getting 22 down, 10 up. My battery life is great on LiquidSmooth 4.2.2. You must be just a little outside the LTE coverage area.
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