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So ive noticed that there is a new (maybe old) feature on YouTube when i access from my PC for watching vids in high(er) quality...since it is YouTube that is offering this option does anyone know if we will be able to watch Vids in higher quality from our G1's??? they are still very choppy (opinion)
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not sure if you are aware of this, but youtube plays at a higher resolution if you are connected via wifi vs 3g/edge.
dwang said:
not sure if you are aware of this, but youtube plays at a higher resolution if you are connected via wifi vs 3g/edge.
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ya ive tried and noticed a slight difference but wifi connection is not always available to me...
if you've only noticed a slight difference, then the video you are watching was low quality before it even made it to youtube
The higher quality option within the standard Youtube site utilizes h.264 with AAC.
As far as I know the G1 uses only the old standard .FLV through its built-in player when using WIFI.
When running on EDGE or 3g the G1 Youtube player player connects to the mobile .3gp stream.
The iPhone on the other hand uses the h.264 stream when wifi is connected, or the .3gp stream when in EDGE or 3G coverage (although downloading of the higher quality stream is available through the device with MXtube.
I own the two devices and will be doing a few comparison videos in a week or so. It is interesting that no reviewer has commented on the fact (or what I believe to be a fact) that the Youtube viewer on the iPhone is a lot nicer to use and watch on the whole, despite Google owning Youtube. Really they should have offered the best mobile Youtube experience on the G1.
One GOOD point about the use of .FLV streams is that they load a LOT faster. The same stream in h.264 on my iPhone can take many seconds to buffer - even with my 10mbps broadband connection - where the same clip on the G1 buffers almost instantaneously. I suspect that Youtube throttles their h.264 streams (for reasons best known to themselves) since I have no problem streaming the BBC's lovely h.264 iPlayer streams.
I suspect it is HTC who actually made the Youtube app, and that it will be improved, or even replaced with the Cupcake release.
Another problem which is slightly off topic and will NOT be improved with updates is that the G1's loudspeaker is vastly inferior to the iPhone 3G's (though much better than the pathetic iPhone 2G speaker).
Sound quality for me is very important when I'm watching videos on my device, and as I've swapped and changed between my G1 and iPhone over the past couple of weeks I've found the speaker quality of my G1 to be a source of great irritation being as it is just so tinny. and annoyingly positioned. Despite being only monaural the iPhone 3G's speaker is one of the best out there.
Me and my friend did a comparison, he has iphone and i have g1 obviously. Both of us are in 3g are and his quality blows g1 away. I agree youtube videos looks pretty horrible on g1 with or without 3g. Speaker is definately behind in the iphone wars also. I have noticed that i pick the videos up much faster than iphone but i would wait for quality. Alot of youtube videos are low quality video's however.
maybe someone can impliment a "force &fmt=18 string" at the end of every youtube video link that gets played to force the quality to be good. but of course, you would have to wait for it to load too, so they should make it an option when you press the "menu" button, maybe they could do something in the next custom firmware for root users.
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maybe someone can impliment a "force &fmt=18 string" at the end of every youtube video link that gets played to force the quality to be good. but of course, you would have to wait for it to load too, so they should make it an option when you press the "menu" button, maybe they could do something in the next custom firmware for root users.
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thts actually a great idea as this code provides excellent resolution on PC's, and i wouldnt mind waiting as stated above i would rather have higher quality...
Has anyone compared the video quality when launching videos from the youtube.com website instead of searching for them with the youtube app? I believe the app normally searches m.youtube.com which has videos that are reencoded with a lower quality.
WOOOOO
so keeping in mind the "&fmt=18" code at the end of the actual vid URL i tried this...
1) go to the actual website www.youtube.com (not app)
2) search/click on any vid, it will ask you if you want to use the "youtube app" or "browser", Click browser
3)once the page opens you will see the flashplayer error, hit the menu button and "go to url" add the code "&fmt=18" to the end of the url then copy
4)go to www.keepvid.com and paste in the blue box then click download
5)scroll down and you will see 2 options to download make sure u click the mp4 high quality link...(not the flv link)
6)WAHHLAAAHH enjoy looks 5times better even though takes 5 times longer lol hope this is worth it for some of you
nice find. you can also use the fmt=22 addition to get HD videos from youtube.
on a side note, i was trying to find an easier way to do this and found that if you look it up in the application, you can just use Menu/share to send it to yourself. before you send it, you can add the URL extension of choice and when you get the email and click on it, it will ask youtube or browser. select youtube and it will play, but it seems to drop the added extension. if we could find a way to make it keep it, it would effectivly remove the need to use www.keepvid.com
and the 720p vidoes (if available) do play very well and look AWSOME on the phone!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4&fmt=22 (the one i d/l to my phone to test a HD video)
I found a way to not have to d/l the video. just copy the link from www.keepvid.com and put it into the Meridian Video Player from the marketplace. It will stream it no problem, including the HD ones... (does not work with the youtube link and the added extension, but at least you dont have to d/l videos anymore)
If there would be a way to use longclick to have an option to open it in Meridian, you could do this probably from the youtube page even. Or if a similar option would be available from the mail app, then you just send the link and click!
Just to comment, but none of the youtube videos are anywhere close to 720p in resolution. They are indeed pretty good for streaming videos but those are probably about 800x480 or something along the lines of that.
Hi All,
So I'm a big audiobook, and Netcast fan! I currently own a Fuze (former Tytn II) and have been often frustrated with Podcast playing in general.
First off I must say hats off to RSS Hub for managing downloads/subscriptions to Podcasts Doable. It's not perfect, but it works and it sync's over 3G/Edge (*cough* *cough* IPhone, welcome to 2005)..
For the longest time I've been using either Media Player, or the built-in TouchFlo player. Either way it's frustrating for Podcast listeners. If you're listening to a 1.5 hour podcast and usually my commute doesn't last that long, so I stop it when I get to work. Now I'm on my way home again gotta reload the podcast... fumble around with Media Player (why skip only moves forward a couple of seconds on a 1.5 hour MP3 baffles me!) for like 5-10 mins of my drive until I find where I had reached in my podcast....
Well thanks to PocketPlayer... no more!!! No I'm not affiliated in any way... The ability to resume without doing absolutely anything has made me love this thing so much I felt compelled to share with my fellow netcast lovers!
Basically the process is simple:
1) Load up RSSHub
2) Click on the Podcast (after you installed PocketPlayer and set it as default for MP3 of course)
3) Listen, enjoy... Exit when you're done.
4) Go back to RSSHub, click on the Podcast again... and BAM! like magic you resume right where you left off... (Puts a tear in my eye)
BTW for those of you interested:
Some great Netcasts to subscribe to:
1) This Week in Tech (AKA TWIT)
2) No Agenda (w/John C. Dvorak, find it very humorous and/scary at the same time)
3) DiggNation
http://www.conduits.com/products/player/ to get the player...
Sorry for those who have known about this for a while, not all of us are up to speed and I share for those like me who live under a rock!
IndustryCanada said:
Hi All,
So I'm a big audiobook, and Netcast fan! I currently own a Fuze (former Tytn II) and have been often frustrated with Podcast playing in general.
First off I must say hats off to RSS Hub for managing downloads/subscriptions to Podcasts Doable. It's not perfect, but it works and it sync's over 3G/Edge (*cough* *cough* IPhone, welcome to 2005)..
For the longest time I've been using either Media Player, or the built-in TouchFlo player. Either way it's frustrating for Podcast listeners. If you're listening to a 1.5 hour podcast and usually my commute doesn't last that long, so I stop it when I get to work. Now I'm on my way home again gotta reload the podcast... fumble around with Media Player (why skip only moves forward a couple of seconds on a 1.5 hour MP3 baffles me!) for like 5-10 mins of my drive until I find where I had reached in my podcast....
Well thanks to PocketPlayer... no more!!! No I'm not affiliated in any way... The ability to resume without doing absolutely anything has made me love this thing so much I felt compelled to share with my fellow netcast lovers!
Basically the process is simple:
1) Load up RSSHub
2) Click on the Podcast (after you installed PocketPlayer and set it as default for MP3 of course)
3) Listen, enjoy... Exit when you're done.
4) Go back to RSSHub, click on the Podcast again... and BAM! like magic you resume right where you left off... (Puts a tear in my eye)
BTW for those of you interested:
Some great Netcasts to subscribe to:
1) This Week in Tech (AKA TWIT)
2) No Agenda (w/John C. Dvorak, find it very humorous and/scary at the same time)
3) DiggNation
http://www.conduits.com/products/player/ to get the player...
Sorry for those who have known about this for a while, not all of us are up to speed and I share for those like me who live under a rock!
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Also, I recommend my Podcasting bible for more info on getting podcasts, syncing them and playing them back. I've also elaborated on resume support in all podcatchers / podcast players / MM players.
Menneisyys said:
Also, I recommend my Podcasting bible for more info on getting podcasts, syncing them and playing them back. I've also elaborated on resume support in all podcatchers / podcast players / MM players.
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Where do I find it?
Hi,
I used to listen to a lot of audiobooks during a day on my iPod. Since I have a decent sized memory card in my HTC Topaz, I'd rather use it instead so I only need one device with me. The problem is that all of my audiobooks are in .m4b format, so I need something that runs on WinMo that can:
1. Play this .m4b format (I think it's just AAC)
2. Bookmark where I am in each book so if I close and re-open the player, the book continues from where I left off
3. Allows fine tuned rewind/fast forward as I often rewind 5-30 seconds to hear some part of a book a second time
4. Show me the chapters of M4B (Unicode support).
5. In iPod there is an option to listen at faster speed, which is very nice when you can short the time for a book by 25%.
6. Support the Bluetooth Play(Main)/Next Chapter(VolUp) etc buttons.
I've found tcpmp/core player can play .m4b's, but it's not great at bookmarking. That is, if I'm listening to a book, close the player and re-open it, the bookmark works fine and it continues to play where I left off. However, if I open any other file in between, the bookmark is lost. This is made worse by the inability to do any fine tuned rewind/fast forward. The only option is to use the progress slider, which tends to jump in VERY large increments.
Any suggestions?
You hit the nail on the head with this one. Any luck finding an app for us??
m4b on windows mobile
still an unsolved question... The first post here still brings it right to the point!
There are two indispensable functions regarding a m4b player for me:
- remember last position for each audiobook when stop playing / restart player / change audiobook
- possibility to list and scroll through chapter marks (!) - which seems not to be possible with any player I know...
I'd be glad to hear somebody has found a solution???
PocketMusic 5.3.5 does remember playing position in m4b, however chapters navigation is still an open issue.
wjenya said:
Hi,
I used to listen to a lot of audiobooks during a day on my iPod. Since I have a decent sized memory card in my HTC Topaz, I'd rather use it instead so I only need one device with me. The problem is that all of my audiobooks are in .m4b format, so I need something that runs on WinMo that can:
1. Play this .m4b format (I think it's just AAC)
2. Bookmark where I am in each book so if I close and re-open the player, the book continues from where I left off
3. Allows fine tuned rewind/fast forward as I often rewind 5-30 seconds to hear some part of a book a second time
4. Show me the chapters of M4B (Unicode support).
5. In iPod there is an option to listen at faster speed, which is very nice when you can short the time for a book by 25%.
6. Support the Bluetooth Play(Main)/Next Chapter(VolUp) etc buttons.
I've found tcpmp/core player can play .m4b's, but it's not great at bookmarking. That is, if I'm listening to a book, close the player and re-open it, the bookmark works fine and it continues to play where I left off. However, if I open any other file in between, the bookmark is lost. This is made worse by the inability to do any fine tuned rewind/fast forward. The only option is to use the progress slider, which tends to jump in VERY large increments.
Any suggestions?
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Try elaudiobooks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/win...oks2-audio-t2922308/post56362244#post56362244
I only ask because this will be my third infuse, first one the screen broke, second one was stolen.
I like the infuse however I am not a fan of these problems:
Can't play youtube videos in the background
Youtube videos, or other flash videos don't just start playing by themselves
So I was thinking about possibly another phone, though I love this phone (screen, camera and all)
I was also thinking about trying to flash ubuntu (it would be a PC! at least this what I think anyways)
I was just wondering if there were better phones out there under AT&T for the money, not sure if my insurance would allow me to jump from one phone to another so easily... need to talk to the guys at the shop.
Thanks for any input
I don't know what you mean by YouTube does not start by itself but no android phone let's you play a video in the background. I would keep the infuse but get insurance on it.
What I mean by that is
On a PC (desktop or laptop etc... pad even)
A video starts playing by itself when you click the link, or refresh the page, this is not so
I mean perhaps the flash hasn't quite gotten there yet and I should appreciate the fact that I can even stream youtube videos in the first place
And the other part is, once I have this clicking, as soon as I minimize the web (press home) the music stops, same thing happens when I press the power button
(I like to look up a lot of music on youtube and listen to it in the background) while performing other tasks
thanks for the reply
Flash on Android is suspended when out of focus. There's nothing you can do about this, and it's unlikely that will change since Flash was discontinued for all mobile platforms.
flash is discontinued. It it still works and is useable just won't be updated
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GreenAce92 said:
What I mean by that is
On a PC (desktop or laptop etc... pad even)
A video starts playing by itself when you click the link, or refresh the page, this is not so
I mean perhaps the flash hasn't quite gotten there yet and I should appreciate the fact that I can even stream youtube videos in the first place
And the other part is, once I have this clicking, as soon as I minimize the web (press home) the music stops, same thing happens when I press the power button
(I like to look up a lot of music on youtube and listen to it in the background) while performing other tasks
thanks for the reply
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unfortunately this isn't just an infuse issue. Most phones i've tried won't let you watch youtube videos in the background, only if it's the main app open.
Get another Infuse. They're great phones and dirt cheap now. The only other one that's remotely better than the Infuse and the same size is the Skyrocket, but that one is $250 at the moment...and AT&T doesn't seem to be handing them out cheaply. Or you can drop down in size and get the S2...but that one is still $199 because it's a good seller. We should be getting our official GB release sometime in December so grab another Infuse and help decrease the surplus inventory.
(skip to second paragraph if you're not interested in a mild rant)
In one of the recent updates for the YouTube app while streaming to the Chromecast it'll automatically add every video you've watched to the TV queue. That's fine as I don't mind having a list of the recent videos I've watched, but the part that bothers me (enough to create a thread, which I can't remember the last time I started one) is that the video is added to the top of the queue. This makes every video that you just F***ING watched play all over again! Again, I'd be fine with this if there was any type of preferences within the YouTube app to disable such an asinine "feature" that I'm pretty sure was solely created to boost the number of views of their videos (as I see no other purpose). It really feels like Google is going the way of taking away many options within their apps and it's bugging the s**t outta me to no end. The Chrome browser within Android use to have a plethora of options such as choosing user agents and things of that sort but that option is no longer available either. [/rant]
Is there any way to disable the autoplay "feature" of the TV queue while using the Chromecast, or the TV queue altogether if needed? My current version of the YouTube app is 5.7.41 and I'm not sure when this bug was introduced exactly.
Let me know if there's more information needed, I've been out of the modding scene for awhile (I'm actually pleased with stock Android on my Nexus devices).
Thank you for any assistance that can be provided, even if it's the version number that I can roll back to before the TV queue.
Just to say that i also think its fu..in anoying! I was searching for some kind of solution and found this thread. Only thing left is to hope that youtube will change that in the upcoming update...
Well, I appreciate seeing that I'm not the only one being bothered by this. I had forgot about this thread do to the (seemingly) lack of interest and I was reading comments on my tablet while a video played on my Chromecast, when the video ended it changed to the next video on my tablet and gave no ****s as to what I was doing. Android/Google used to be the king in my book as they gave options for everything, but they seem to be following in the same footsteps as Apple nowadays and it is sorely disappointing.
Ok, this has got to be affecting more people now. I thought my newest mishap was just a glitch, but even after reboots the bug (feature) exists now anytime I stream anything from my laptop as well! The goddamn problem is also WORSE than the tablet issue because at least the tablet takes you to the video it is streaming so you can stop it an remove it from the queue. Apparently that wasn't a big enough F*** UP(!) for Google so now if you play a youtube video from a laptop that is part of a playlist, then play a different video that's not within that isn't within a playlist, when the non-playlist video is over the previous playlist will start playing again. ARE YOU ****TING ME!?!?! Now I have a playlist playing on my Chromecast that the ONLY ****ing way I can get it to stop is to start playing another video and then stop it!. Please inform me that the lead developer/designer setting the path for Chromecast has autism or some other disorder they have a legitimate reason for being this ****ing stupid.
I totally agree with you guys, it doesn't make any sense why it behave that way!!
bumping this, as i'm bothered by this as well
wonder why it doesn't affect more people though... it's probably not a widely used feature
I am also very pissed off with this! Every now and then, in the middle of the video, it pops up.
It stays there for hours (at the minimum) and it lowers that brightness and has the annoying symbol for it covering the content of the video!!!
This is extremely disappointing!
Bothered by the same thing. The problem was fixed a while ago, but now it seems it's back. As soon as I want to play/cast a video, the TV queue is populated with all other videos in that playlist. I would like it to play THAT video, then stop. :/ I can removed one and one video, but that sucks when it's maybe 60 videoes in that list.