hey everyone, I have made a backup with nanodroid through openrecovery. I was wondering to what extent does it backup. through openrecovery i have selected to backup everything except the tree, bootloader, radio, and 1 more thing which i forgot the name of (basically the 4 bottom things).
If I flash a new different rom, wip factory data, and then restore the backup that i made from before, will I pretty much be in the EXACT state when i made the backup? will the extra stuffs that were added by the new rom be deleted?
thanks, any help is appreciated
It will be exactly as when you made the backup
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hi there guys,
I have some questions about how to make a total back-up of your rom, so you don't have to setup your apps and stuff like that, when you wanna try something new. Setting everything up when I wanna go back,is holding me back.
hope this is not a total repost, if it is just show me the old thread, cause I couldn't find it.
Errr... A classical Nandroid (whole Rom with Kernel, Apps and Settings) and/or Titanium Backup (Apps and Settings - possible to transfer data between different roms) should offer everything you need
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when I bake a backup with clockwork, I still need to set everything up, and install my apps again. What am I doing wrong?
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when I bake a backup with clockwork, I still need to set everything up, and install my apps again. What am I doing wrong?
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I always backup and restore from recovery menu of clockwork, this means when restoring everything is put back as it was.
Not sure why this isn't working for you
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I downloaded (and paid for) the newest version of clockwork manager from the marked. How do you do it, just from the app or do you boot in recovery? When you say full recovery does that include everything, so you don't have to setup anything?
Yes mate, boot into recovery, select "backup and restore", then backup - this will save a full copy of your system as it stands. When you backup from the recovery menu it will put everything back exactly as it was when you backed it up - ie all apps & data already setup
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and before I recover I need to do a complete wipe, right. System, catch and factory?
No.. you dont need to wipe before restrore.
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ok, tnen I'm gonna try again. Don't see why its not working for me. There's not a secieal setup I need to do? I haven't done anything else than installing the app ;-)
Confusion?
I believe that there is a couple of differing questions are being asked and answered here.
A Nandroind backup or full device backup (excluding RADIO) will enable you to restore your device back to the exact state that it was in when taken. All the phone partitions SYSTEM/DATA/BOOT/CACHE/etc are all backed up. Therefore restoring one of these backups will ensure that the ROM, kernel and data will be restored together and the phone will be operational.
A Titanium Backup backs up applications and setup data that enables you to easily restore your installed applications and configuration. After a factory reset or a re-install of the same ROM.
It can often be problematic to use a titanium backup after changing the version of the ROM you used or when moving from one ROM to a completely different one. In fact quite often ROM cooks recommend that you don't use a Titanium backup restore in the setup of their ROM.
That being said I still take both types of backups on my device. As titanium backups are useful for restoring individual applications to a previous state if they encounter a problem or corruption.
I believe that the Nandroid backup is the most useful recovery tool we have available to us and always take one, before flashing any new ROM or ZIP file, better to be safe than sorry.
Although I'd also recommend that all personal data ie calendar & contacts should be backed up by sync'ing to the cloud and never just kept locally on the device.
I put the latest touch recovery from clockworkmod into a flashable zip.
It works with ICS. It is the same recovery as the one you would have to pay for to install with ROM manager.
TO INSTALL CWM TOUCH RECOVERY........
Flash this in recovery as you would any ROM or mod.
Here is the link:
http://db.tt/Ud9qVq7V
I found the recovery http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
**** This is different than sk8tr's version btw. His has a custom ui and this is CWM official. ****
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If anyone is wondering this doesn't look like its a disaster just as 5.8.4.3 was. I flashed miui and it booted up fine but if anyone has any issues please share.
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Working good on my Hercules just flashed aokp jb and aint need any superwipe scripts either
thank you, works great!
Updated op to avoid confusion.
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Thanks for the info!
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Okay, so I ran a backup and restore test on cm9 and cm10. I thought it was sk8t's version causing me problems restoring backups but the issue is similar on this build.
The backup file that gets created doesn't contain all the data for a full restore -- much of it gets stored in the "blobs" folder in cwm (someone more knowledgeable than me can probably explain better). Also, it takes a REALLY long time to create a backup.
Using the standard restore doesn't work on (on this or on sk8t's version). I keep getting "error restoring system" message and it won't restore. I tried to do an advanced restore doing each part individually but that didn't work either.
Restoring an old rom from before they changed the backup method works fine though. I haven't tried restoring using ROM Manager yet but I may try that next--I'm thinking that's what the new system is designed for...
EDIT: Rom manager fails too. Same error restoring system message.
Please post here if you can successfuly backup and restore cm9 or cm10 (or any other roms) so we can figure out if its just me
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Okay, so I ran a backup and restore test on cm9 and cm10. I thought it was sk8t's version causing me problems restoring backups but the issue is similar on this build.
The backup file that gets created doesn't contain all the data for a full restore -- much of it gets stored in the "blobs" folder in cwm (someone more knowledgeable than me can probably explain better). Also, it takes a REALLY long time to create a backup.
Using the standard restore doesn't work on (on this or on sk8t's version). I keep getting "error restoring system" message and it won't restore. I tried to do an advanced restore doing each part individually but that didn't work either.
Restoring an old rom from before they changed the backup method works fine though. I haven't tried restoring using ROM Manager yet but I may try that next--I'm thinking that's what the new system is designed for...
EDIT: Rom manager fails too. Same error restoring system message.
Please post here if you can successfuly backup and restore cm9 or cm10 (or any other roms) so we can figure out if its just me
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Did a backup on CM10 Alpha 1. It took awhile but didn't seem to take any longer than a CM 5.x backup. Modified a few things, updated a couple apps, and then did another backup - went a bit quicker. Doing a restore now but it's past the restoring system portion so I'm assuming it'll all be good. I'll edit this if it craps out at some point.
As for the blobs, this is new to CM6.x and from what I understand is supposed to make backups a little quicker and use less space as it will only backup what's been changed since a previous backup instead of the entire thing like CM5.x. Not sure at all on all the technical details but I'd suspect the blobs contain what's been changed at the point of backup and each backup "container" file indicate which blobs to restore...
EDIT: Restore completed just fine.
so you're saying that if I have a backup stored and create a new back up it only backs up the changes since the last one? If so, that sucks. I always like to keep a solid backup and then after numerous changes back up again and delete the old one. Looks like it's back to old faithful 5.8.1.3 for me.
(UPDATE) confirmed. My new backup was 20MB.
Honestly i prefer twrp recovery.. just wanted to provide this for those that needed it.
But, since TWRP does an UNCOMPRESSED backup i can have a nandroid backup done in a little over 2 minutes. Same for restore.. very fast.
TWRP can be set to compress the backup.. but i prefer speed over less space.
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so you're saying that if I have a backup stored and create a new back up it only backs up the changes since the last one? If so, that sucks. I always like to keep a solid backup and then after numerous changes back up again and delete the old one. Looks like it's back to old faithful 5.8.1.3 for me.
(UPDATE) confirmed. My new backup was 20MB.
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Here's the explanation of how it works:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/103583939320326217147/posts/L5aVZe7C9vg
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Here's the explanation of how it works:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/103583939320326217147/posts/L5aVZe7C9vg
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Thanks. There should be a "FULL backup" and "BLOB backup" option. I'm rolling with 5.8.1.3 cause it's never fu**ed me over (yet).
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Thanks. There should be a "FULL backup" and "BLOB backup" option. I'm rolling with 5.8.1.3 cause it's never fu**ed me over (yet).
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I'm not sure if I follow what the point would be? I thought the same, but after reading that and doing a few tests, I'm confident this will do just as well - if not better.
Might be worth mentioning/requesting from Koushik Dutta depending on your reasoning or need.
I think I figured out what the problem was for me in not getting backups to restore (but someone please post if you disagree). I was getting an "Error while restoring /system!" message every time.
Every time I make a backup I go into Root Explorer and change the backup name so that I know which rom it is. Today I did a backup and didn't change the backup name and I was able to restore it successfully.
Changing the name of yesterday's backup to it's original name, however, did not fix the problem. Those backups still won't restore.
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I think I figured out what the problem was for me in not getting backups to restore (but someone please post if you disagree). I was getting an "Error while restoring /system!" message every time.
Every time I make a backup I go into Root Explorer and change the backup name so that I know which rom it is. Today I did a backup and didn't change the backup name and I was able to restore it successfully.
Changing the name of yesterday's backup to it's original name, however, did not fix the problem. Those backups still won't restore.
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I've always changed the name of my backup folder to make it more descriptive. One thing I read along time ago was that it only works if you don't include any spaces in the changed folder name. And I've never had any problems with restoring any of them. However, if you indeed did not include any spaces, then maybe it's been changed in CWM 6.
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I've always changed the name of my backup folder to make it more descriptive. One thing I read along time ago was that it only works if you don't include any spaces in the changed folder name. And I've never had any problems with restoring any of them. However, if you indeed did not include any spaces, then maybe it's been changed in CWM 6.
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Didn't add any spaces. I only added cm9 or cm10 to the end of the file name (that's how I know I changed it back to the original names when I tried to restore yesterday's backups).
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Didn't add any spaces. I only added cm9 or cm10 to the end of the file name (that's how I know I changed it back to the original names when I tried to restore yesterday's backups).
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Gotcha. That's interesting then; don't know what it could be.
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Hey majic I got a suggestion to cut down on confusion. Put official in the title. At first I thought sk8 had to threads. I thank you kind sir for zipping and uploading this official version. You da man....
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Didn't add any spaces. I only added cm9 or cm10 to the end of the file name (that's how I know I changed it back to the original names when I tried to restore yesterday's backups).
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never had issues changing names of back up folders, what did you use to change the folder name , you could have a space at the end of the file name and dont even know it, use backspace to delete it, if u know dos try its naming conventions
sorry but how is this recovery different from sk8's recovery? That one's also CWM Touch 6.0.1.0 and also flashable zip ... ?
Thanks!
I have some backups using old recovery, some backups using Rom Manager, and some using TWRP
Can i just put them all into one folder ... will they be flashable using any method i choose? Or will i need to restore them using only the app i used to create the backup?
Im like a lot of people and keep multiple rom's backed up. I'd like to switch between them back and forth.
When I go into recovery and restore a specific backup, so i need to do a wipe first? or will it automatically override what it needs to?
If i backup the rom using recovery or TWRP .. does it also backup all user app data?
meaning, is it redundant to also backup my apps using titanium backup, if i have them freshly backed up with the ROM?
Last question, somewhat unrelated ...
a thread like this one, does it go here under Q/A forum? or does it go in Development forum?
Im asking because on other forums, usually anything root related, even questions, would go into the root section of the forum, not the general QA section.
Just want to know for future reference, to not piss people off lol
1: each backup is independent. Cwm backups are not compatible with twrp backups/vice versa.
2: you can swap around restoring nandroid backups without wiping. Recovery wipes for you before it restores.
3: titanium is for restoring apps generally when flashing a different rom or when doing a clean install. Using a recovery based data restore is generally only recommended on the same rom/nightly. Titanium is an indispensable tool, learn it! Never restore data on a different rom/base with titanium. Recovery data restores are hit or miss. It's an experience thing you'll need to iron out and completely rom based. In general, if it's not a nightly, don't do it, stick w/titanium until you understand exactly what the differences are.
4: you posted correctly in q&a. You would have gotten flagged posting this in development. Development is for tech development, not user knowledge developing!
Hope that helps
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thanks so much!
Hello. I am in need of some help. I have a rooted LG G2 with TWRP on and I want to flash a custom Rom on it but I have a few questions.
1) What ROM should I flash that's compatible with my phone?
2) Will I need to wipe all my data?
3) How do I backup EVERYTHING on my phone?
4) At other suggestions on what I should do prior to flashing a custom ROM?
1) Take a look in the development section of your device to see all the Roms and see what's best for you.
2)Yes, you will need to wipe your data, or your new ROM can cause severe problems, due to incompatibilities, etc.
3)There are 2 options here, you can either use TWRP to make a nandroid which backs up everything, including user apps and app data, system partition, etc. If something goes wrong, you can restore your nandroid and everything will be as you never touched anything.
You can also use an app called Titanium backup, which backs up all apps and data, but you need to backup and restore within the app.
My advice: make full backup using both methods, so you have a full system backup, and a backup on a per app basis.
4) Before flashing, make sure you've read up on your device and how to flash etc, so you are prepared and know what to do in case something goes wrong. If you need help, feel free to post here on XDA
Other than that, please make a backup before you do anything to your device, I cannot stress that enough. Have fun, it truly is a fun process tinkering with devices
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Hello,
I was wondering if it was possible to make a complete backup of my phone. By complete I am referring to A Complete Carbon Copy of my phone including OS & All.
Thanks In Advance
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take nandroid backup from your recovery for that first root your device then install any recovery than take full system backup it will backup all your system data and in future you can also restore it
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Hello,
I was wondering if it was possible to make a complete backup of my phone. By complete I am referring to A Complete Carbon Copy of my phone including OS & All.
Thanks In Advance
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You're going to have to be rooted to do a full backup. You need to look into that first.
Once you've done that, you can then install a backup app from the store such as nandroid backup.
If you install a custom recovery like twrp, you can also do a full backup.