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[Q] Nexus Prime vs iPhone 5: 720p 4.8" 320 dpi Android vs. 720p 4.0" 326 dpi iPhone
I posted the following on The iPhone Blog and was wondering what the consensus was here. I actually prefer Android myself but have plenty of respect for the iPhone and as long as it was jailbroken could live with either happily.
I was playing with a calculator and speculating about the next Nexus phone versus the next iPhone.
If you multiply the iphone pixels by 1.125 you get 720 x 1080 resolution. If you maintain the 326 dpi of iPhone 4 you end up with a 4" screen that will still fit inside the current size iPhone with 1.3 mm bezel on each side and of course, smaller bezel top and bottom.
The rumors from BGR indicate the next Nexus phone be made by Samsung and will have a 720 x 1280 Super Amoled Plus HD branded screen (16/9 aspect ratio). I did a little calculating based on the physical phone size of the Samsung Galaxy S II. Since the Nexus Prime will be a button free design merging the tablet and phone android platforms, the screen can be 4.8" and still have a 4mm bezel on each side.
I personally believe the next iPhone needs to increase the screen size and I know most users don't want to lose retina display resolution so that limits the max size screen to 4" without making the phone larger. My question is will that be enough improvement in screen tech for the iPhone to slow down android's market share growth. When I am out in bars I see lots of iPhones but I also see a ton of over-sized android screens out there. I can't escape the conclusion that the large screen is the single biggest selling point for Android versus iPhone. Personally, I use both an iPhone and Android phone but that big screen on the Nexus Prime is like a siren calling to me. I own a LG G2X with a thin case that is the same width as a Samsung Galaxy S II and it does feel good in the hand. If there was a 4.8" native 720p screen on it, how many people will be attracted like moths to a flame.
Will the superior camera, better app selection, Minimal fragmentation, better stability, IOS 5 features and Apple ecosystem be enough to slow the bleeding of market share to Android, even if the phone is bumped up to 720p hd and a 4" screen. I wonder if maybe Apple has a much better implementation of a 3D glasses free technology that will wow people. Kind of like how face time did video calling much better than anyone else even though it wasn't first.
Nexus-4.0 running ice cream, and with an even better screen tech than Super AMOLED+, where do I sign up.
All rumors about the iPhone5 sound boring. Just the Android notification system we've had for years already. And it might, just maybe get a slightly larger 3.8" screen.
For me to ever consider the iPhone, it needs at least a 4" screen. Widgets. And customization, all done out of the box stock, not jailbreaked.
But the rumors coming out about ice cream get me hot
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Nexus Prime
HAHA
+1 For using a transformer as a phone name. But in all honestly all signs point to the device being made by LG. Apparently its either that or a tablet....how great would a HTC Nexus 3 and an LG Nexus Tablet be. That would be a tasty christmas for me
That would be a tough decision made tougher by the sweet new Android-like features iOS5 will have. So far, for me, the only drawback to the Nexus Prime is the huge screen. 4.3" is as big as I'm willing to carry around with me. Since both phones are technically superior and jaw-dropping, I'd have to go with the iPhone 5. It provides all the same technical goodness but in a smaller, manageable package.
I have a hard time believing that the next nexus will have that large of a screen. 4.8" is getting into tablet territory. I'd be put off by the size personally, and I'd think that they'd keep it in the 4.0"-4.3" range but who knows?
not too much of a iphone fan ! its gona be just fine.
Nexus prime just sounds too sexy
I WANT IT
I chose Android for the OS and the possibillity to use difrent phones from diffrent manufacturers at the size thatpleases me and NOT be bound to 1 overpriced phone from 1 manufacturer with a smal screen that absolutely binds my freedom.
MartyLK, I hope you realize the physical size of the phone could be exactly the same as the Samsung galaxy SII. The larger screen doesn't have to mean a larger phone. The aspect ratio is longer relative to width and the extra length would take up the space previously dedicated to capacitive buttons.
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lol i just made a similar topic on Nexus S forum right now...
Google Nexus Prime FTW!!!
nexus prime
i want the nexus prime!
If it has kal'el, I'm definitely going to get it. It might if LG is making it. HTC likes quallcome too much.
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i want the nexus prime!
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+1
no steve jobs stuff for me
+1 nexus prime
i would +1 this to infinity if it would be possible. xD
I want to say Nexus, but not if its made by Samsung. I wanted the Nexus S so bad, before that the Nexus one (it was just starting to already get old when I was ready for a new phone, what with the S right around the corner and all)... I just have nothing good to say about Samsung phones, why, i don't know. I think HTC makes the best phones on the planet and I hope they build the next Nexus.
Regardless I won't buy an iPhone. They are incredibly overpriced here.
I dunno why some of you are crying over that large screen. hell, it'll physically be smaller or the same in dimension to most phones right now with 4in screen, even.
I want that Nexus prime
it's gonna be hard for apple to catch up with the iPhone 4s or 5 -- even with doubling iphone 4 specs the nexus prime will be far ahead:
http://versus.io/en/google-nexus-prime-vs-apple-iphone-4-16gb
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it's gonna be hard for apple to catch up with the iPhone 4s or 5 -- even with doubling iphone 4 specs the nexus prime will be far ahead:
http://versus.io/en/google-nexus-prime-vs-apple-iphone-4-16gb
2x 1.5Ghz (!!!)
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From what I saw on an Apple keynote podcast, I agree. Even though iOS5 will be new, it won't have enough new'ness, or change, to compete with Android or Windows Phone 7. Both of them will leave iOS in the dust.
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Hey guys, I'm getting a new phone in August when my contract dies. My current phone is a stock Nexus S running Jellybean. I'm trying to decide between getting the HTC One S, or the Samsung Galaxy S III. Both are priced at $400 on a 2-year contract with Virgin mobile, and I'm completely stuck on making my decision. With the One S, have any of you had considerable problems or issues with it? Would you get an SIII if you could? I believe that each of these phones are evenly matched, and each have their strengths and their weaknesses. I'm a fan of HTC Sense 4.0, and i like the overall build quality of the One S, but the S III has more ram, a removable battery and expandable memory. The HTC One X is not available with Virgin mobile, so I cannot get the HTC equivalent of the S III. Which would you recommend?
Thanks
Well. That depends. If you love trying new ROMs/kernels on your device, the s3 is going to be better in the long run. Not that the one s lacks a healthy dev community. We have many great devs with awesome Roms but the s3 has more people on board.
On the other hand, I found the one s more stylish and I like Sense 4 better.
Personally, I have no issues with my One S and with HTC promising a JB update, we know that, hopefully, all software related issues will be squished. You could look around for some common issues but nothing serious IMO but YMMV.
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Get he gs 3 and the free 50gbs of storage on dropbox. Return it and be happier with the one s and get another 25gbs of drop box for free. And keep the one s with 75gbs of storage space
davwman said:
Get he gs 3 and the free 50gbs of storage on dropbox. Return it and be happier with the one s and get another 25gbs of drop box for free. And keep the one s with 75gbs of storage space
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I only get 2gb
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k1llacanon said:
I only get 2gb
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then you prolly didnt complete the steps to get the 25 gb. you should have gotten an email when you registered for DB or signed in which told you how to get the 25 gb.
as for your q, im more than happy with the one s. The screen is the perfect size whereas i believe the SG3 has a screen thats too big to be comfortable. Maybe if you have big hand its ok lol. The only drawback i suppose would be the 16 gb storage, but using DB and google play music, that isn't really an issue. in the end though, it all comes down to your choice. Both are amazing phones
HTC One S was my choice. I prefer Sense 4.0 over Samsung's skin as well as I think HTC is doing better with updates than Sammy.
davwman said:
Get he gs 3 and the free 50gbs of storage on dropbox. Return it and be happier with the one s and get another 25gbs of drop box for free. And keep the one s with 75gbs of storage space
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I like when the face matches the words.
You know it...
Thanks guys, also, how's the display on the one s? Its a pentile which means it could be a little jagged but my Nexus S has one and I really don't find it that bad.
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Display is great, obviously not as sharp as the gs 3 and x and has less screen real estate due to the 720p res that the x and gs 3 have.
I'll let anandtech finish it off
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/6
Terminator19 said:
Display is great, obviously not as sharp as the gs 3 and x and has less screen real estate due to the 720p res that the x and gs 3 have.
I'll let anandtech finish it off
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/6
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The One S does not have 720 dude, it has qhd. I have owned both devices and the GS3 is miles ahead of the One S
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KillaHurtz said:
The One S does not have 720 dude, it has qhd. I have owned both devices and the GS3 is miles ahead of the One S
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emmm, I didn't say that the S has 720p res.
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Display is great, obviously not as sharp as the gs 3 and x and has less screen real estate due to the 720p res that the x and gs 3 have.
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And of course you would expect the display of a device that costs about £130 more to be better.
the galaxy s3 is not miles ahead of the one s. I had it. Glad I got my money back. Its nice but it is way too big and feels like a kids toy.
I found myself in same position 3 weeks ago, and I struggled for weeks researching my choices between one s and s3. All my friends got s3 so I had a good chance to try it.
Though what s3 does is impressive as far as speed and memory goes, it seriously lags in look & feel and coolness factor. It feels like lugging around a tablet than phone and it barely fits in pocket.
Compare that to one s, which I finally ended up getting which is incredibly fast, memory though less never been a hindrance. I had 10gigs available after all system programs which I believe is plentiful when added with the online storage options.
Sure s3 beats one s in all test scores but one s Screen is unbelievable, phone is sleek and stylish and you can still reach around with one hand and fits in your pocket. Camera will put your point and shoot cameras to rest and I cannot be more happy.
And battery life is great too. I got a about 12 hours on moderate use even with couple of camera flashes and I still have 20% left.
Ultimately think of the long term impacts of having a tablet for a phone for next 2 years just because it is fast and more memory, vs. having a sleek, handy pocket able phone which is still fast with decent amount of memory.
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Does Adobe Flash still work on both devices?
gs3 = hot and plastic
main reason i switched from gs2 to one s
i tried the gs3 its just gets hot when using the phone
Actually the GS 3 doesn't even beat the S in all of the benchmark tests (both the quad and S4 version), yes the res. does have an impact but then the XL has the same hardware but also 720P res. and it still beats the GS 3 in the majority of tests.
The GS 3 international version only beats both in the tests, which uses the GPU such as quadrant etc. as the GPU is far better than the adreno 225.
Only areas that the GS 3 is better is:
screen
1080P recording
storage/SD slot
removable battery
bigger developing community
Everything else is more or less same or better on the S (IMO):
- camera is more or less the same (some photos look better on the GS 3, others look better on the S), however, the UI is better than touchwiz alternative and has way more features, which are actually cool and make taking photos more enjoyable.
- Speed/smoothness is more or less the same, only reason the GS 3 appears to be smoother is due to the animations/timing that is used, could achieve the same if you flashed those animations and had the exact same timings, besides were getting JB soon hopefully so there will be virtually no difference then (on any of the phones)
- audio is more or less the same (some say the GS 3 is better, others say the S is better)
- out of the box battery life is better (to be expected considering the S has a smaller battery and is only qHD), not by a huge amount though, however, with the GS 3 you can carry spare batteries around with you
- sense V4 is far far better in looks/UI, unified feel, the stock apps are amazing such as the gallery, calendar etc. touchwiz has loads of gestures and some cool features (but the majority of these are being ported over to every other android phone, such as the smart stay feature (iseeyou, works great on my S), Svoice, smart status bar (can drag the notification bar down when in an app full screen) etc. only a matter of time till we get things that like smart alert etc. The same can't be said with sense app/features though. IMO touchwiz is too bloated and no real unified feel across the apps/menus etc. everything just looks disorganized and the colour scheme is too kiddish/cartoonish
- and lastly the build/perceived quality of the S is miles ahead of the GS 3 and IMO looks far better compared to the GS 3 (subjective the looks though)
Do you want a phone that fits in your trouser pocket?
Get the One S
Are you a basketball player with huge hands?
Get the One X or Galaxy S3
Want to watch lots of movies?
Get a tablet.
Phones are getting far too big these days. Unfortunately there are no top spec 4" phones, so I got the One S. It's still in the mail so I can't really review it further. Manufacturers really need to learn from apple here, make it pocket sized for f&# sake. Also half the market is female and even being an average size male I find the latest phones too large.
There are some things that suck on the One S though: No MicroSD , Stupid capacitive buttons, at least samsung always have one proper button, sense UI looks like tacky plastic ****.
If you do get one s make sure it's not the old snapdragon S3 SoC which has worse battery life.
I whole heartedly agree with the above. I'm 6'0 healthy 225 pounds guy that thought the beastly oversized gs3 would fit me. I was wrong. That thing is just way to big. I found one handed operations almost impossible. The display isn't that great either, not for the price. Plus I had a amoled smear that looked like a smiley face smack in the center of the screen. The one s that uses Samsung amoled displays shows no sign of such things.
Terminator19 said:
Only areas that the GS 3 is better is:
screen
1080P recording
storage/SD slot
removable battery
bigger developing community
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We have 1080p recording.
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Pheroh said:
We have 1080p recording.
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Yeah I know
But the GS 3 is far better for light metering and smoothness and slightly better quality as well.
Thinking of trading my nexus 6 64gb for a z3
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Why would u do that? I can't find a Nexus 6 anywhere. I finally settled for the Droid Turbo. And, I might add, I really like it.
PunishedSnake said:
Thinking of trading my nexus 6 64gb for a z3
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Don't bother
unmaskedfalesh said:
Don't bother
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Note 4?
The OLED in the Nexus 6 is apparently not as good as the ones Samsung uses. Some already got screen burn in a few weeks. I'm guessing low quality display. The speakers are also not as good and same with battery life thanks to that QHD display.
Just an FYI, Blue OLED has least life span of the 3 colors and recent improvements such as larger blue sub pixel as Samsung uses alleviate it somewhat.
Screen burn is unavoidable on OLEDS, you may get it in a few months or you may "notice" it in a year or two depending on usage/static wallpaper etc.
Also on white backgrounds like on web, OLEDS use more power than LCDs because to create white you need all 3 color sub pixels.
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Note 4?
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Yes..u can get the note 4..but get the snapdragon version not the crap exynos with mali gpu..
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The OLED in the Nexus 6 is apparently not as good as the ones Samsung uses. Some already got screen burn in a few weeks. I'm guessing low quality display. The speakers are also not as good and same with battery life thanks to that QHD display.
Just an FYI, Blue OLED has least life span of the 3 colors and recent improvements such as larger blue sub pixel as Samsung uses alleviate it somewhat.
Screen burn is unavoidable on OLEDS, you may get it in a few months or you may "notice" it in a year or two depending on usage/static wallpaper etc.
Also on white backgrounds like on web, OLEDS use more power than LCDs because to create white you need all 3 color sub pixels.
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The speakers on the nexus 6 are far superior too the note 4.
If Note 4, the Exynos is actually the preferred one as it also uses Wolfson DACs for audio which are really good.
Exynos is a "true" Cortex A15 unlike S800/801 and so gives slightly better performance per Mhz.
Just wondering of any of you think there is a huge difference between the 2 and 2 xl besides the obvious being size. I'm really torn between the two and especially since the 2 is around 130 cheaper. Can any of you give me a little insight on what you think the best route I should take. I'm currently using a moto x pure which has a 5.7 inch screen.
Unlike the S9 vs. S9+ The Pixel 2 and 2XL are identical internally (CPU, memory, Camera, features, functionality) and the only difference IS the screen and the bezels; the 2XL looking more modern with much smaller bezels. I would suggest going to your local store and getting a feel for both and pick the one you like the most.. Me personally, I found the 2XL a little too big and preferred the size of the 2.
RE: Online complaints of the 2XL having blue shift screen issues when viewing at an angle.. Please disregard those complaints. This has been confirmed to improved and on par with other devices for some time now.
Bigger battery on xl model is important too
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Proday said:
Bigger battery on xl model is important too
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Funny thing is that I've personally had just as good battery life on my pixel 2 as my panda
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I was in the same boat but went for the Pixel 2, the bigger screen wasnt a big deal for me. Battery life on the pixel for me is great seeing its only a 2700 gets me more than a day with medium use.
there the cost factor too...so all depends on what your requirements are
I would go get a feel as pointed out above and make a choice...
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Just wondering of any of you think there is a huge difference between the 2 and 2 xl besides the obvious being size. I'm really torn between the two and especially since the 2 is around 130 cheaper. Can any of you give me a little insight on what you think the best route I should take. I'm currently using a moto x pure which has a 5.7 inch screen.
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If your planning to install Custom roms, the XL has more support currently.
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If your planning to install Custom roms, the XL has more support currently.
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Thanks I went with the 2xl and I'm so glad because the screen is amazing and that camera
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Thanks I went with the 2xl and I'm so glad because the screen is amazing and that camera
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Well the camera really is the same on both!
Large Hadron said:
Well the camera really is the same on both!
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No I know, just saying
I'd like that 3520mAh battery, but I prefer the smaller phone, and going from 75% to 30% battery, I get more than the 11 hours a day I need with the 2700mAh battery. Maybe if I had the push to run a more useful ROM and ran the clock down lower (the phone's fast enough for me on battery saver from turn-on to turn-off [come on, Google - make that stick through restarts]) I'd get even more life. (I plan on running this until Android S, at least, so I'd like 4 years of battery life.) But I don't need the extra half inch poking me in the side (I always use an Otterbox Defender).
Luv my XL 2 for the size, custom roms, kernels, etc
I prefer small high end Android phones and was interested in the Pixel 5... but it has gone low end. I love the Pixel software and amazing Google warranty service and don't particularly like the bloated Samsung OS. Are there any other flagship pure Android phones?
It seems like the only options now are the S20. The Oneplus phones seem too big for one-hand use, but I might have no choice. It seems like they are the only ones with stock Android experience. Has anyone here tried Oneplus compared to a Pixel? Any thoughts?
Low end ?!
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Rootax said:
Low end ?!
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The Pixel 5 is the first Pixel to not use a flagship CPU. It has approximately the same processing speed as the Pixel 3.
I liked that the Pixels were small and powerful.
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The Pixel 5 is the first Pixel to not use a flagship CPU. It has approximately the same processing speed as the Pixel 3.
I liked that the Pixels were small and powerful.
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What exactly do you need more cpu power? Heavy gamer? You certainly won't notice otherwise. Specs are not everything
Considering I've been buying/using nothing but near-stock or stock Android phones the last 8+ years, you don't have many choices as far as name brands go.
Namely: Google, Nokia, Motorola, OnePlus. And whatever Android ONE phones that support your chosen carrier. Google has the best track record for updates. Nokia is also good since their phones are all Android ONE. Motorola has down way downhill for updates since Lenovo took over. OnePlus is hit-or-miss with their updates, also not as often released as Google or Nokia devices.
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FHD has been low end and QHD high end for 5 years at this point
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FHD has been low end and QHD high end for 5 years at this point
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You won't be able to see pixels with 423dpi so? Why do you need higher resolution? Seriously asking why you would trade battery life against this. Except for VR stuff
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FHD has been low end and QHD high end for 5 years at this point
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i have to set my s20 to 1080p to use 120hz sooooo
Sony Xperia 5 ii? 6 inch screen with 21:9 ratio makes the phone narrow enough to feel small in the hand, near stock Android, 2 year system update, 3 year security update.
NGL, pretty torn between this and the Pixel 5.
Pixel 5 is no low end, I've seen so many reviews and they all claim the same. The 765 can handle everything you throw at it, even the most demanding games.
The 8 series, especially when it comes to phones is to show the public what's possible.. there's maybe a few people out there which actually need so much cpu power, for everybody else the 765 is perfect.
I recently used the 4a and even that one performs really well.
It's all hype and i get it, we all want the best possible but most of us don't need it and I'm glad we start having devices with more mid range specs for a more normal price.
For me personally the Pixel 5 is just perfect.
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What exactly do you need more cpu power? Heavy gamer? You certainly won't notice otherwise. Specs are not everything
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I would agree with this, I just got my p5 a couple days ago and it's soo smooth! The 8gb of memory and 90hz screen coupled with Googles optimization really provide an excellent experience, I've played pubg and genshin impact both without a stutter. add to that the bigger battery over (7hrs sot on average) and it really still feels premium.
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Going from a pixel 2 to the pixel 5, I feel this phone is DEFINITELY not low end. But #s matter to some folks I guess...
Android devices have battery issues that are at the heart of the size creep. Until a manufacturer realizes that most people don't actually give a damn about a couple mm of depth to get a big enough battery to support flagship features, it's just not gonna happen. Everyone knows phones have gotten too big, it's why there is a market for PopSockets.
I've given up on Samsung, I've used every one they've made for years but they are now heavy and bloated phones. The cpu thing, you simply don't notice in real world use and who cares about geeky bench scores
Going back to light and smaller phones with superb battery ( Samsung are battery killers ) is a pleasure
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I've journeyed 1xl, 3xl, 5
1xl and 3xl were "flagships" and the 5 leaves them in the dust.
seriously - once you get to a certain processing power, it's all smoke mirrors and bells.
you're fooling yourself if you don't think the 5 feels flagship
seems a lot of forums have people believing in the "tech reviews" pre launch about how "disappointing" the 5 is... they're wrong
I hammer phones, it's my main work tool and there is no discernable difference in this 5 and other phones I've used
I've just opened Lightoom and opened and closed some 20 meg pics, plus edited a bit, fractions of a second slower yes for sure but it's just a none issue
The true beauty of a smaller lighter phone is something I'd long since forgotten until now
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I had s20 I sold it and I buy pixel 5. Pixel 5 all the way smooth and you will get instant update.
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Don't get me wrong I've enjoyed Samsung phones , but they are heavy , made of glass and full of annoying bloat
Going back to smaller lighter phone that feels so good without a case is a joy
I hate using cases and the Pixel 5 is a joy without one
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Don't get me wrong I've enjoyed Samsung phones , but they are heavy , made of glass and full of annoying bloat
Going back to smaller lighter phone that feels so good without a case is a joy
I hate using cases and the Pixel 5 is a joy without one
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LOL, that's the huge hate I have for Samsung phones, glass. I buy phones to use not pamper or show off.
I don't know of any Android phone that I would consider to be small these days.
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FHD isn't low end. QHD is overkill. It's like killing a fly with a grenade.
Pollie81 said:
Pixel 5 is no low end, I've seen so many reviews and they all claim the same. The 765 can handle everything you throw at it, even the most demanding games.
The 8 series, especially when it comes to phones is to show the public what's possible.. there's maybe a few people out there which actually need so much cpu power, for everybody else the 765 is perfect.
I recently used the 4a and even that one performs really well.
It's all hype and i get it, we all want the best possible but most of us don't need it and I'm glad we start having devices with more mid range specs for a more normal price.
For me personally the Pixel 5 is just perfect.
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I have a Pixel 5. I'm relatively happy with it but it is kind of low end.
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Going from a pixel 2 to the pixel 5, I feel this phone is DEFINITELY not low end. But #s matter to some folks I guess...
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I went from a Pixel 2 XL to a Pixel 5 and the Pixel 5 definitely is low end compared to the Pixel 2 XL. I get stuttering and lag on my Pixel 5. It's not terrible but it's noticeable and definitely worse than my Pixel 2 XL. My Pixel 2 XL lasted 3 years really good. The Pixel 5 won't hold up as well as the Pixel 2 XL.