Samoled screen blotches? - Captivate General

Does anyone see blotches on their screen in low light conditions? Whenever there is a dark background on the display, I always see blotches on the display, whether it be in the youtube app, the home screen, or the wallpaper chooser. Is it a defect?
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It's a problem with samoled screens.
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Isn't this called cloudiness? Something like that. Didn't know super amoled screens have this problem. I know the Zune HD's OLED screen definitely has this.

MikeyMike01 said:
It's a problem with samoled screens.
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oh..so it's samoled related?? and here i was thinking it was my screen protector...

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[Q] ..Just got the phone. TEXT is so blurry??

Just got my phone. The txt on the apps and main screens and just about all txt looks very blurry. Pics and such are perfect.
Is this something others are seeing? didn't see anybody mention it elsewhere.
Thanks!
Or is it that it's just not as clear as iphone4 screen?
it's really annoying to look at.
Might be a good time to schedule an appointment with your local optometrist.
My screen with text looks great.
haha. every other screen in my life is good.
Maybe I have a bad one. The app icons all look fuzzy too.
That'll be the Pentile matrix, doesn't bother most people.
Unless you have it really bad, then it might be a bad one.
Pentile RGBG matrix... effective resolution is lower than RGB. Comparing it to an iPhone 4 screen with even higher RGB resolution makes it look worse... so I suggest switching to a phone that has an RGB LCD like the MT4G or something if you don't want to deal with the pixelation. Also, the screen being 4" doesn't help... compared to a condensed 3.5" iPhone display.
CaptCaveman said:
Just got my phone. The txt on the apps and main screens and just about all txt looks very blurry. Pics and such are perfect.
Is this something others are seeing? didn't see anybody mention it elsewhere.
Thanks!
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That's also why I thought 4"+ was too big for 800x480 (S-)AMOLED. I was actually surprised for Samsung keeping that resolution.
Still, at such resolutions, I value vibrant colors more than higher resolution like on the iPhone 4.
Thanks for the info. It seems what's getting me is that images and apps aren't all made for the high res screen. So some look horrible, others don't.
SO I guess the lack of a standard, like iphone, makes not all apps equal.
hmmmmm
The only thing keeping me from getting this phone is the pentile matrix SAMOLED screen
Pretty much everything will be OK for the screen, 800x480 has been in common use for over a year.
You may have a duff one like me. The text on my Galaxy S is very well defined but slightly blurry on my Nexus S with a dodgy screen. Does your screen look a little greeny / yellow when viewed from an angle?
Unless its really bad blurry, its most likely just the pentile sub pixel layout all Samsung amoled screens have, which causes text to look just ever so slightly fuzzy compared to traditional lcd screens with full 3 pixels. It doesn't bother most people, and It's just a trade off we make for having the nice colors from amoled screens for the time being.
Doesn't bother me one bit. But the larger the screen gets at the same resolution, the more noticeable it gets. Next to my nexus one I can definitely notice it more on the 4 inch than the 3.7inch screen.
I have also noticed this "blurry" text, especially small text against a white background, which is almost unreadable. From an angle, the screen also does appear a bit yellowish. This is my first time with a "Galaxy S" phone, so I may just not be used to it... think i have a defective screen? i've been using a Motorola Droid 1 for the past year, fyi...
wuyanks said:
I have also noticed this "blurry" text, especially small text against a white background, which is almost unreadable. From an angle, the screen also does appear a bit yellowish. This is my first time with a "Galaxy S" phone, so I may just not be used to it... think i have a defective screen? i've been using a Motorola Droid 1 for the past year, fyi...
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No I think your screen is just fine. The amoled pentile is particularly blurry compared to the Droid screen which has text that looks razor sharp. So you're just coming from the device that shows this issue most prominently, that's all.
Certainly my Galaxy S with the exact same panel is perfectly readable from many angles.
My Nexus S text is blurry and the screen is yellowish when tilting.
silencer51 said:
The only thing keeping me from getting this phone is the pentile matrix SAMOLED screen
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buy the asian/russian version when it comes out. because it will be SLCD.
you will get what you want.
i like the Super Amoled over the SLCD . i like Ratina over Super Amoled. but to each has his own .
So to you SAMOLED > SLCD, but Retina > SAMOLED. You do know that Retina = LCD right?
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
buy the asian/russian version when it comes out. because it will be SLCD.
you will get what you want.
i like the Super Amoled over the SLCD . i like Ratina over Super Amoled. but to each has his own .
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dinan said:
So to you SAMOLED > SLCD, but Retina > SAMOLED. You do know that Retina = LCD right?
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ofcourse, you understood me wrong. i said the name" retina " because of the pixel density is higher than normal LCDs or SLCDs. but yeah ofcourse i know lol.
Screen Door Effect... WHY GOOGLE/Sammy???
ok, just had a chance to look at the Nexus S... and WTF??? The screen is so pixelated. The screen door effect is horrible. I thought I took a step back in time for a second. The pixelation is soo bad I would never think twice about buying this phone. Why oh why don't these phone makers give the people what they want.
So, Apple comes out with the new retina display, and while it is way too small, it's soo very very very clear. Google's response? This? Come on... WHY? Aren't we suppose to be moving forward? Ok, so it's brighter and uses less power and has a higher refresh rate... WHATS THE POINT IF YOU CANT SEE ANYTHING???? THERE IS NO POINT.
I don't mean to be harsh... I'm not a Nexus hater... I just wish Google would have done a better job for their flagship phone.
Never been happier with my EVO on Cyanogen...
silencer51 said:
The only thing keeping me from getting this phone is the pentile matrix SAMOLED screen
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Get it in another country. In many countries it will come with Super Clear LCD, found on the S8530 Wave II. Super Clear LCD is said to have the advantages of Super AMOLED (sunlight visibility, viewing angle), but wheter that's true or not, it's a really nice display. Look it up on the internet, although I have to warn you, you'll lots of people complaining about the screen because the S8500 Wave I had Super AMOLED.

The contrast ratio is terrible on this phone

Forget the bleeding lcd edges , its the horrible contrast on this phone that will probably cause me to return it.
After coming from the inky black Amoled screen on the Nexus s , this is the most disappointing aspect of otherwise top of the line phone. You can't get a true black on this phone , the best it does is dark glowing gray. In fact anything with a black background looks gray , not total absence of light Black.
I realize that this phone has an LCD screen not an amoled screen , but I never thought the difference would be this pronounced. Example : when I power up my Nexus S the screen is pitch black and when the white Google logo appears , it will appear to floating in space in a dark room. The G2x display will put off it own light, making it very visible in a dark room.
Deep blacks are awesome but I find this screen better in other areas over AMOLED/SAMOLED IMHO. You have to pick what matters to you. I don't spend a ton of time looking at blacks so doesn't bother me
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Deep blacks are awesome but I find this screen better in other areas over AMOLED/SAMOLED IMHO. You have to pick what matters to you. I don't spend a ton of time looking at blacks so doesn't bother me
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Agreed with you sir. The colors on this phone are awesome and I come from a Galaxy S 4G.
Its up to but every G2X I have sold out my store as well as mine the screen looks great. I am loving this phone for everything it has. Way better then my N1.
There's nowhere you can compare contrast of AMOLED because it's unlimited.
However, I think the black on G2x is a bit "darker" than my MT4 (good screen).
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Its up to but every G2X I have sold out my store as well as mine the screen looks great. I am loving this phone for everything it has. Way better then my N1.
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Agree... My moves encoded to WVGA 800x480 @2500k bit rate look great or just as good as my SAMOLED.
The blacks on AMOLED will always be darker than the blacks on LCD that uses backlighting. The blacks on amoled doesn't have light behind it so its gonna be darker, because there isn't a light source lighting up behind it. This comparison doesn't make sense. If you compare the GX2 any other LCD display on a phone it will out shine it hands down.
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I am coming from a Vibrant and find the G2x display easier on the eyes. Yes the blacks looked better on the S-AMOLED but the colors are more natural on the G2x. However what I find to be most important is text look a lot better on the G2x display than the Vibrants Pentile display. I don't have to zoom in anymore to read text on webpages like I did with my Vibrant.
I have a thunderbolt and a nexus s also. The nexus s just sold on eBay. As previously stated you can not compare the blacks on a nexus s with the G2x, two totally different technologies. But compared to the thunderbolt the G2x shines. And the G2x has more clarity and better whites. When compared to the nexus s. G2x has great viewing angles. Over all a great screen, once you get past the back light bleeding.
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I have a thunderbolt and a nexus s also. The nexus s just sold on eBay. As previously stated you can not compare the blacks on a nexus s with the G2x, two totally different technologies. But compared to the thunderbolt the G2x shines. And the G2x has more clarity and better whites. When compared to the nexus s. G2x has great viewing angles. Over all a great screen, once you get past the back light bleeding.
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Agreed completely
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My Video Review - One S vs. iPhone 4

Hey guys, I did a lengthy review of the One S and iPhone 4 - Apologies for the lighting, the camera I was using wasn't functioning properly in bright light so I had to lower the lighting in the room. However the video is emphasizing the OS' on both handsets and YouTube will allow it to go up to 720p streaming quality.
Clearly, there can only be "One" winner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueGM716rVTA
I almost quit your video when you talked about the screens...
Under 1.5' you CLEARLY see the PenTile crap on the One S. There's no way to see a damn 1px line on that phone, it will display a dotted line...
Otherwise we have more or less the same thoughts about our phones.
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I almost quit your video when you talked about the screens...
Under 1.5' you CLEARLY see the PenTile crap on the One S. There's no way to see a damn 1px line on that phone, it will display a dotted line...
Otherwise we have more or less the same thoughts about our phones.
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Yeah if you know about it, you'll notice it.
However most consumers aren't aware of what a Pentile screen is, so they'll hardly notice it unless they're being told to look for it.
Honestly it's only an issue with home screen icons and some text when zoomed out. Video and pictures look crisp and clear as day, as do games. The whites do tend to be unbalanced, but that's more or less the blending of S-Amoled and Pentile. The Amaze, which is non-pentile and sports an S-LCD qHD display, definitely is the sharper of the two displays. But the colors and lack of any screen bleed (which you get on the Amaze) makes the One S tops in comparison. I'm a fan of the retina display, I'm just not a fan of the screen size, and I emphasize that in the video.
Thanks for watching.
Can you explain more about pentile. I don't see what so bad about it.
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AttachedSilver said:
Can you explain more about pentile. I don't see what so bad about it.
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Err, well if you don't see a problem with your phone's screen you are better to not start looking to know why some have issues with it.
NienorGT said:
Err, well if you don't see a problem with your phone's screen you are better to not start looking to know why some have issues with it.
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It doesn't matter since ima get the Galaxy S3 anyways
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It still a PenTile screen lol... But if you don't notice something wrong with the One S you will certainly not see a problem with the GSIII since the resolution is much densier.
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It still a PenTile screen lol... But if you don't notice something wrong with the One S you will certainly not see a problem with the GSIII since the resolution is much densier.
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seriously? Then I guess ill go back to my one X. I was gonna switch back anyways since it has a larger display and more memory, but just wanted to know about pentile
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Err, well if you don't see a problem with your phone's screen you are better to not start looking to know why some have issues with it.
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Yeah I would advise that as well.
I never noticed it until I read up about it, then it was a never ending mission to analyze sub pixels. It got to the point where I had to de-program myself from noticing, and since the One S does have as vibrant of a screen as it does, I've been able to overlook it.
Though I agree that in comparison to a non-pentile like the Amaze, you will notice it. In comparison to Retina, you'll definitely see coloration issues with the way the pentile portrays whites.
With that said, I really don't think it's as bad as people make seem, specifically on a 720p screen. I never noticed it on my G-Nexus, though I did get quite annoyed with the yellow/blue tint/hue that the whites put out. That bothered me much more then pentile, bar none. To each their own, everyone has a different set of eyes and will see things differently. In a way, I'm beginning to like the pentile because it makes icons and text come out a bit sharper, and just seem more comfortable for my pair of eyes.
The Amaze, and even a display like the G2X's with IPS really had no problems with the jagged edges and such on icons, and though the SGS2 Hercules has a 480x800 resolution, it was non-pentile Super Amoled Plus, which imo was the best in the market for that specific resolution. But where the Amaze was good with rendering smooth icons/text, it was bad rendering blacks and dark colors, because of the S-LCD screen bleed that was prevalent with the capacitive button lights. Once you turn them off though, you won't notice it.

Q: Black spots on screen?

Just noticed this today. When looking at a black screen I see a decent amount of blotches on the screen. I looked it up and it appears to be normal at least on the gs3. I wanted to see if anyone else has it on their RAZRs.
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Hi, I already mention that in another thread, but yes I have the same issue on a dark screen on very low brightness and low ambiant light. The phone is usable but it's a bit disturbing to my eyes. And yes it's quite the same for the GS3. Must be from the amoled tech...
But the other thing is when on a solid green or blue or some others colours screen, like the fb loading page, I can distinguish dark stripes on the screen, it seem the the amoleds motorola uses aren't as good as the ones used from samsung IN the samsung's.
yep. totally normal for these screen types. The original razr had tons of them.
Welcome to amoled guys...
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haha.. i shifted from ips and was worried dude wtf man...Thank God its normal phew

[Q] Screen Quality

Hi everyone,
It's my first time using a Nexus device.
I just switched from Samsung Galaxy S2.
With the samsung screen, the black is a real black whereas in the Nexus the black shows the backlight of the LCD (or however it is called now) screen so there's this white glow coming out when it supposed to be pure black screen.
I'm not referring to when the phone is off, I'm referring to when it suppose to display pure black background like when using the Daydream clock feature.
I'm not complaining, I'm just trying to understand if this is how it supposed to be
Thanks
gil80 said:
Hi everyone,
It's my first time using a Nexus device.
I just switched from Samsung Galaxy S2.
With the samsung screen, the black is a real black whereas in the Nexus the black shows the backlight of the LCD (or however it is called now) screen so there's this white glow coming out when it supposed to be pure black screen.
I'm not referring to when the phone is off, I'm referring to when it suppose to display pure black background like when using the Daydream clock feature.
I'm not complaining, I'm just trying to understand if this is how it supposed to be
Thanks
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It's normal. Use this for awhile and then go back to the s2, I have one too. You'll see how much better this screen is.
I agree that sharpness and colours are amazing on the Nexus but it's not the black colour / contrast I got used to from the S2.
I came from an S3 and I love the screen quality. I can actually see my phone in daylight.
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gil80 said:
I agree that sharpness and colours are amazing on the Nexus but it's not the black colour / contrast I got used to from the S2.
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samsung uses samoled screens, the blacks are blacker and the colors are more vivid. but, samoled screens dont show the real colors, they are much more overly saturated. oh, and black.. samoled dont light up pixels for black, thats why it seems blacker.
klin1344 said:
I came from an S3 and I love the screen quality. I can actually see my phone in daylight.
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I could see as well with the S2
Anyway, as I was saying, I'm not complaining or anything... I just didn't know if the black I was expecting to see on the Nexus is about the same as in the S2...
Unfortunately, I must admit that the S2 presented a much deeper black and the Nexus 5 displays white glow rather than black.
IPS != AMOLED
S2 -> AMOLED. That's almost pure blacks and too saturated colours.
N5 -> IPS. In the N5's case, pretty accurate colours, but with background light, cause the tecnology is like that. You're not gonna get black blacks with IPS. The panel is quite a lot better in every other aspect though.
thanks @Molitro
I agree that besides the blacks, this screen is amazing
As others have hinted, only Oled screens can turn their pixels off complely (0nits) and that's why they can do cool things such as active notifications on the Moto X. When looked on head on the black levels of the Nexus 5 IPS screen are quite good compared to other non Oleds. Infact it out right destroys my desktop and laptop Tn displays in that regards.
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