Sorry if this is in the wrong place but user adub007 has posted the Xoom system Dump over in the xoom section here on XDA. Here is a link to the thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966767
madj1 said:
Sorry if this is in the wrong place but user adub007 has posted the Xoom system Dump over in the xoom section here on XDA. Here is a link to the thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966767
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Nice! Thanks. I'm sure our devs are looking at it right now.
Woohoo! Here we go!
Cant wait!
whose got an over under on a port? what device do you think gets it first?
*I'm not expecting anything or asking an ETA, just some harmless speculation*
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whose got an over under on a port? what device do you think gets it first?
*I'm not expecting anything or asking an ETA, just some harmless speculation*
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I vote for our Gtablet.
Roebeet, Gojimi, Rothnic and company have my confidence.
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I vote for our Gtablet.
Roebeet, Gojimi, Rothnic and company have my confidence.
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Absolutely - those guys are legends!!
No pressure or anything like that guys
again, no pressure, but i'd put my money on getting to play with a (albeit very alpha) port by this weekend.
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No pressure or anything like that guys
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Just looked at the dump and was soooo sad, the other 60 megs that is missing, that the original poster said someone would probably get tomorrow contains most the files the devs need to develop a rom. I looked at the files and the files needed by the guys at notioninkhacks.com are not in that dump from what I can see. So I think everyone is jumping the gun a little. The reason that he probably couldn't dump the other files is because he wasn't rooted. I feel that this was the guy that had a xoom and had minimal technical skillz and was walked thru on how to do the dump on these forum boards. I think that is why none of the devs have jumped in and said anything yet...or it could be they are working to tighten up some loose ends with the dump he provided. All and all the main files that are needed are not included in the dump this guy made available. Please correct me if I am wrong, I hope that I am wrong.
I don't think this is a race of who gets it first. Its a race to who gets it stable first.
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Just looked at the dump and was soooo sad, the other 60 megs that is missing, that the original poster said someone would probably get tomorrow contains most the files the devs need to develop a rom. I looked at the files and the files needed by the guys at notioninkhacks.com are not in that dump from what I can see. So I think everyone is jumping the gun a little. The reason that he probably couldn't dump the other files is because he wasn't rooted. I feel that this was the guy that had a xoom and had minimal technical skillz and was walked thru on how to do the dump on these forum boards. I think that is why none of the devs have jumped in and said anything yet...or it could be they are working to tighten up some loose ends with the dump he provided. All and all the main files that are needed are not included in the dump this guy made available. Please correct me if I am wrong, I hope that I am wrong.
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I think you're right, it appears this is only the system image, the boot image is also required to cook a rom.
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Just looked at the dump and was soooo sad, the other 60 megs that is missing, that the original poster said someone would probably get tomorrow contains most the files the devs need to develop a rom. I looked at the files and the files needed by the guys at notioninkhacks.com are not in that dump from what I can see. So I think everyone is jumping the gun a little. The reason that he probably couldn't dump the other files is because he wasn't rooted. I feel that this was the guy that had a xoom and had minimal technical skillz and was walked thru on how to do the dump on these forum boards. I think that is why none of the devs have jumped in and said anything yet...or it could be they are working to tighten up some loose ends with the dump he provided. All and all the main files that are needed are not included in the dump this guy made available. Please correct me if I am wrong, I hope that I am wrong.
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Your assessment is spot on. Need boot.img, which this is not.
Lots of stuff to dig through, but not complete, ........yet.
how do i change this message?
How do I change the message on the screen that says....this phone belongs to....I am running vegan rom
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Your assessment is spot on. Need boot.img, which this is not.
Lots of stuff to dig through, but not complete, ........yet.
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Yep, but it is the first step
You were wrong with 1 thing i dont have minimal im no genius but i know my stuff. But you are correct sir the devices isn't rooted so now i couldn't get the boot.img but this is a step and still provides some use to the devs with more experience when it comes to this
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Just looked at the dump and was soooo sad, the other 60 megs that is missing, that the original poster said someone would probably get tomorrow contains most the files the devs need to develop a rom. I looked at the files and the files needed by the guys at notioninkhacks.com are not in that dump from what I can see. So I think everyone is jumping the gun a little. The reason that he probably couldn't dump the other files is because he wasn't rooted. I feel that this was the guy that had a xoom and had minimal technical skillz and was walked thru on how to do the dump on these forum boards. I think that is why none of the devs have jumped in and said anything yet...or it could be they are working to tighten up some loose ends with the dump he provided. All and all the main files that are needed are not included in the dump this guy made available. Please correct me if I am wrong, I hope that I am wrong.
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neo4uo said:
Just looked at the dump and was soooo sad, the other 60 megs that is missing, that the original poster said someone would probably get tomorrow contains most the files the devs need to develop a rom. I looked at the files and the files needed by the guys at notioninkhacks.com are not in that dump from what I can see. So I think everyone is jumping the gun a little. The reason that he probably couldn't dump the other files is because he wasn't rooted. I feel that this was the guy that had a xoom and had minimal technical skillz and was walked thru on how to do the dump on these forum boards. I think that is why none of the devs have jumped in and said anything yet...or it could be they are working to tighten up some loose ends with the dump he provided. All and all the main files that are needed are not included in the dump this guy made available. Please correct me if I am wrong, I hope that I am wrong.
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Hey thanks. Its good to learn something. I have no clue what's required to cook or port a ROM, this is actually helpful to the misinformed members.
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You were wrong with 1 thing i dont have minimal im no genius but i know my stuff. But you are correct sir the devices isn't rooted so now i couldn't get the boot.img but this is a step and still provides some use to the devs with more experience when it comes to this
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Everyone appreciates the initial dump. Have you made any attempts at gaining root access?
I have made attempts to root & they have failed we going to have go through fastboot to gain some root access
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Everyone appreciates the initial dump. Have you made any attempts at gaining root access?
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Related
I tried flashing Ingenetics 318 original ROM, and I got this funky error about my device not being authorized, contact my support people.
Well, you guys are my only support people. I reflashed with a known working, so this isn't urgent, but if this happened to me it'll happen again. It might be nice to give something to the unsuspecting new flasher to actually find when they search, not just the forum, the whole freaking internet. (Really, I looked hard.)
Anyone know what this batch file is, what it does? Can I use the ROM without digging thru each bin file to find out that's not what I'm looking for? I'm hoping someone can give me an answer b4 I spend way too much OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) time trying to figure it out on my own. Don't get me wrong, I like puzzles, but I don't know what I'm in for.
Thanks.
The original dumped rom won't work as security wasn't removed from it. Someone made a base rom from it, or there are several other cooked roms or kitchens available that use it.
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I tried flashing Ingenetics 318 original ROM, and I got this funky error about my device not being authorized, contact my support people.
Well, you guys are my only support people. I reflashed with a known working, so this isn't urgent, but if this happened to me it'll happen again. It might be nice to give something to the unsuspecting new flasher to actually find when they search, not just the forum, the whole freaking internet. (Really, I looked hard.)
Anyone know what this batch file is, what it does? Can I use the ROM without digging thru each bin file to find out that's not what I'm looking for? I'm hoping someone can give me an answer b4 I spend way too much OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) time trying to figure it out on my own. Don't get me wrong, I like puzzles, but I don't know what I'm in for.
Thanks.
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The batch file is just a security measure. You wont find much info because that mysterious ingenetics thread was removed. Im using my own stripped ingenetics rom, from memory I removed the devauthsig.dat folder as well as any references to dogfood. I dont have access to the specifics of what i removed exactly at this point in time. I might edit this post later with the specifics of what I removed when I get a sec to check.
I wanted to ask a simple question do we know if the NBH updates are signed or not?
I am working on a hybrid to get root back on RC30s phones.
Please if anybody knows the answer to this.
(I have something done already but dont have any stock rc30s to test with.
The file changes are good and the nbh works as modified however it works on an engeniring bootloader because it doesn't check signatures. humbug
http://rapidshare.com/files/176990405/DreamIMGTest.html
From what it sounds like they are signed, by htc themselves. But I have a stock rc30 and I'll try it.
Freaking rapidshare is slow uploading now.
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I wanted to ask a simple question do we know if the NBH updates are signed or not?
I am working on a hybrid to get root back on RC30s phones.
Please if anybody knows the answer to this.
(I have something done already but dont have any stock rc30s to test with.
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I would be happy to test. I have a couple of stock rc30s that can be used.
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I wanted to ask a simple question do we know if the NBH updates are signed or not?
I am working on a hybrid to get root back on RC30s phones.
Please if anybody knows the answer to this.
(I have something done already but dont have any stock rc30s to test with.
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The first 256 bytes of the nbh is the signature.
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The first 256 bytes of the nbh is the signature.
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so question to you....if we know where the signature is, would there be a way to apply the signature to an NBH that we create? if creating one is possible.
Sure, you can change the signature, but how are you going to generate it? Do you have the keys from HTC? If not, might as well give up now
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so question to you....if we know where the signature is, would there be a way to apply the signature to an NBH that we create? if creating one is possible.
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Don't think you quite understand how signatures are created. You can't just toss a signature off one Android version on to another.
Damn I see the signature!!
A mute point then here is the file anyways.
http://rapidshare.com/files/176990405/DreamIMGTest.html
The file changes are good and the nbh works as modified however it works on an engeniring bootloader because it doesn't check signatures humbug
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Don't think you quite understand how signatures are created. You can't just toss a signature off one Android version on to another.
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i do understand that, just some tiny bit of hope...i know that signatures are based on filesize and name and content and all that.....
What about swapping sd cards when the signature is read?
Just an idea.
It seems the bloody bootloader dumps the files straight into RAM before it flashes them making the sd swap impossible or at least difficult. It seems the next step is jtag, but this will not be within the realm of the average user or even advanced user.
Freaking T-mobile and HTC, I really hate their signing crap. They should have at least made the bootloader not read freaking signature hashes.
Im still looking at the file itself to see if their can be any exploits. The bootloader is closed source so there is no way to know easily when the check is actually done, or the update process itself handled
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Freaking T-mobile and HTC, I really hate their signing crap. They should have at least made the bootloader not read freaking signature hashes.
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Let's try to keep the heated opinions to a minimum. Google has already clearly stated that locked root is working as intended for the G1 as per HTC and T-Mo's specifications. This forum is for discussing active development issues, not debating the merits of Android implementation on Dream.
My friend trust me I AM actively working towards development on this device. I don't however need a father lecture on it (especially on a silly comment). I understand T-mobiles and Googles position and respect it. I understand how you feel and it would be well warranted if you were talking with a newbie that does nothing towards xda-developers goals, i however Im not.
If I decide to vent lightly then that is my prerogative, i am not debating anything here simply a frustrated rant since ive been working all day of and on, on this.
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Anyways..
Has anybody started to trace for jtags yet?
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Anyways..
Has anybody started to trace for jtags yet?
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That's a little early don't you think? I don't want to solder my precious phone. It's all big corporations' fault.
Stupid T-Mobile.
LOL @ coolbho3000
Damn corporations
Thank you for taking things lightly and having fun!
I believe jashsu posted a diagram or pic showing the disassembled view of the device and possible points of attack. I don't think either of you meant any harm in your posts but text doesn't quite relay emotion properly. Great work by you both and please keep posting in these forums as I look forward to both of your contributions and appreciate what you've already done.
ashslay
Thank you for your understanding
Im looking at my phone right now disasembled. lets see what we can get
Thanks again
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It seems the bloody bootloader dumps the files straight into RAM before it flashes them making the sd swap impossible or at least difficult. It seems the next step is jtag, but this will not be within the realm of the average user or even advanced user.
Freaking T-mobile and HTC, I really hate their signing crap. They should have at least made the bootloader not read freaking signature hashes.
Im still looking at the file itself to see if their can be any exploits. The bootloader is closed source so there is no way to know easily when the check is actually done, or the update process itself handled
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are you good at ARM assembly (or any other cpu assembly is fine, once you know one, you know all ) and do you have a good understanding of how overflow etc exploits works - if yes, PM me it would be nice to work together.
Just thought someone might find these useful. Might this help with the bricks? Dl the pdf's from here...
http://www.mikechannon.net/page1.html
Nice Post!
I really like something from page 90...
"(1) Try to cold boot the unit then tries again" Almost like they expect failure...
thank you might need this for the future
Anyone have these? The original link is down.
looks like HTC asked that they be pulled
damn they found it really fast!
There is still 1 copy of the service manual on this site...ssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh lol
can someone upload it somewhere else?
It can always be useful
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can someone upload it somewhere else?
It can always be useful
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I agree.. the link no longer has the manuals..
http://www.mikechannon.net/PDF Manuals/
u rock
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http://www.mikechannon.net/PDF Manuals/
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That was much needed... time to open it up for inspection.
PS: If anything has got screws... it needs to be opened
Oh wow. How did I miss this when it was first posted. This will surely be helpful when changing out that glass whenever I get around to ordering it. I found it dirt cheep, but was a little hesitant for fear of doing more damage than good. This is exactly what I needed. Thanks.
Saved (and downloaded) all the manuals on there for future reference. =]
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Saved (and downloaded) all the manuals on there for future reference. =]
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yes very informative changing radio for hero is problay easy then thought just swap the board with tmobile 3g radio and your set oh yeah code to probaly
Here is a link to the latest RUU from Sprint.
You cannot simply extract it. This still has root since it is a test release. I recommend just doing an adb pull of your system directory after you flash it. Don't do this when the final one comes out or else you might be stuck without root.
You will need to add busybox, patch sh and su, and make sure that you do another recovery image and such. I also recommend adding Superuser.apk and stuff. If you use the Desire build.prop, you can get most of the protected apps working.
Enjoy.
http://dl.damagedroms.com/2.0/RUU_Hero_C_Sprint_2.20.651.1_signed_test.exe
Leak, I know who you are.
welcome back
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Here is a link to the latest RUU from Sprint.
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I would just like to say how hilarious this would be if it were a virus.....
glad to see you stay!
lattiboy said:
I would just like to say how hilarious this would be if it were a virus.....
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alright come on enough with the jokes.
Thanks damageless, much appreciated
Love all your work here
this was posted on the other thread before it was deleted...but, is there any advantage with an RUU release vs a the reg custom rom update.zips for the average user (i.eone who just flashes roms)?
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this was posted on the other thread before it was deleted...but, is there any advantage with an RUU release vs a the reg custom rom update.zips for the average user (i.eone who just flashes roms)?
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A Test RUU is useless to someone that is not a Dev.
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A Test RUU is useless to someone that is not a Dev.
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exactly. for it to even work you need to know how to
add busybox, patch sh and su, and make sure that you do another recovery image and such.
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sorry to be a noob here but this may be the final 2.1 sprint release? god i hope so because when i get my replacement hero next week id love to have a fully functional 2.1 rom to flash to.
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sorry to be a noob here but this may be the final 2.1 sprint release? god i hope so because when i get my replacement hero next week id love to have a fully functional 2.1 rom to flash to.
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I hope NOT ..there is still alot of bugs in this .....
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Anyone with a few hours, moderate computer literacy and google at their disposal could turn this into an update.zip
damageless, I appreciate your forthcoming with this... I do find it to be very unfortunate the circumstances under which this had to be released. Regardless whether you intend to remain involved with this community or not, best of luck.
Glad you stayed Damage. For the record i do not give a crap about the RUU i WANT YOUR ROMS.
Leak, I know who you are.
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;-)
tenchars
Damage, Glad to see you back and hope you stay. You have always been honest and forthright about the leaked RUU and why you wouldn't/couldn't release to everybody. It is so rare to run across somebody who embodies the highest qualities of honesty, integrity, loyalty, and generosity. You have shown that by sharing your information and talent with the community to help troubleshoot and refine the 2.1 update.
It is an atrocity that a few jealous ingrates have managed to destroy this and future opportunities. This is what happens when people expect everything handed to them, without having to work for or earn it. Whatever happened to personal responsibility, your word being your bond, helping someone just because they need it, not because you can get something from it, honor and integrity?? Welcome to the new America..........
Anyways, I hope you stay and continue your great work, if not, I understand that as well.....................
And to the leak........remember, no deed goes unpunished...................
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Damage, Glad to see you back and hope you stay. You have always been honest and forthright about the leaked RUU and why you wouldn't/couldn't release to everybody. It is so rare to run across somebody who embodies the highest qualities of honesty, integrity, loyalty, and generosity. You have shown that by sharing your information and talent with the community to help troubleshoot and refine the 2.1 update.
It is an atrocity that a few jealous ingrates have managed to destroy this and future opportunities. This is what happens when people expect everything handed to them, without having to work for or earn it. Whatever happened to personal responsibility, your word being your bond, helping someone just because they need it, not because you can get something from it, honor and integrity?? Welcome to the new America..........
Anyways, I hope you stay and continue your great work, if not, I understand that as well.....................
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Ok, first off, lets say I have respect for the man.
Second, get off his nuts, and third he was most likely approached by someone who leaked the files to him in exchange for anonymity. He didn't work for them any harder than anyone else. He got boned for being trusting. It sucks and ruined a good thing for the rest of us!.
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Ok, first off, lets say I have respect for the man.
Second, get off his nuts, and third he was most likely approached by someone who leaked the files to him in exchange for anonymity. He didn't work for them any harder than anyone else. He got boned for being trusting. It sucks and ruined a good thing for the rest of us!.
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"Get off his nuts."
Yeah a whole lot of respect.
Did I miss something? What happened to Damage???
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+10000000
lmao!!!
I want to do everything I can to develop for this phone. What I need from the people here is a stock flash able rom. I have made great progress on this phone but but idk how to build stock roms and at this point I'm not sure I have the mental capacity to learn it.
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So...you have made great progress doing what?
There is a Chinese ROM floating around, maybe you can use that.
I want to do everything I can to develop for this phone. What I need from the people here is a stock flash able rom. I have made great progress on this phone but but idk how to build stock roms and at this point I'm not sure I have the mental capacity to learn it.
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LOL...
Without a stock ROM, we have been unable to develop much...
What have you developed, here?
Mostly the community is hacking the stock installed rom, and fixing what Motorola has purposefully broken, but with out a few more pieces and a working sbf, you are not going to get a "Stock" ROM.
If you really want to help out go jump into the bootloader unlock forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328714
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LOL...
Without a stock ROM, we have been unable to develop much...
What have you developed, here?
Mostly the community is hacking the stock installed rom, and fixing what Motorola has purposefully broken, but with out a few more pieces and a working sbf, you are not going to get a "Stock" ROM.
If you really want to help out go jump into the bootloader unlock forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328714
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I use cheesecake 4 times a day every day. If I find something I compare it to what others have found.. What have I developed? Nothing more then a headache. Using the bionic safestrap I have been able to recover from 3 soft bricks. 2 of them using adb to push to the phone and 1 using the restore tool. But i had to remount /emmc to /sd-ext. But I think at this point I am done trying anything with this phone.
One more thing.. what can't we use all the stock files I've pulled from the phone to make a flash able zip?
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I use cheesecake 4 times a day every day. If I find something I compare it to what others have found.. What have I developed? Nothing more then a headache. Using the bionic safestrap I have been able to recover from 3 soft bricks. 2 of them using adb to push to the phone and 1 using the restore tool. But i had to remount /emmc to /sd-ext. But I think at this point I am done trying anything with this phone.
One more thing.. what can't we use all the stock files I've pulled from the phone to make a flash able zip?
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Seems like you know a lot more than all of us who have been working diligently for the last 60 or so days with this phone.... Why don't you give it a try and see if you can create a flash-able zip.
You can't build a flash-able zip, because you can not zip or tar files on the filesystem that are in use, and the kernel has a ton of files open and locked. the backup software gets around this in a couple ways that we really can't do, and backups are useless to make flash-able zip from. That is why we need the sbf or fxz or source code to make a flash-able, zip or ROM.
That is why we have warned everyone over and over and over, about trying things we post, right now. The information is not to try out, it is sharing of the developers, and for those of us working on actually developing solutions for this phone. There have been so many bricks, because people are not listening.... I am actually thinking of trading my phone with a buddy to get out of this, because I am tired of hearing about all the bricking people are doing, and having to help save someone who did something to their phone that they did after we told them not to.
Unless You Know What You Are Doing Don't Try This At Home. Until we get the fxz or sbf files. I am getting tired of saying this...
P.S. doing work on the cheesecake thing does not make you a Developer. Hell I am not an Android Developer, I am a UNIX and Linux Hardware architect and UNIX and LINUX Kernel Developer, so I am am able to use all that, 20 years of experience on the Android kernel, and I have been hacking and working on phones a long time.
Now I know it is great to try things and learn, but while learning, it is best to try things we say are safe first, then once you are more comfortable with certain things, then try something daring, that you know how to do.
I am in no way trying to insult you, just realize that right now, with the little help we have on the experienced development side of things, it is real painful to get things moving forward when people don't listen, or do things they are not ready for and then keep asking for help when they killed their phone in the process.
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I am actually thinking of trading my phone with a buddy to get out of this, because I am tired of hearing about all the bricking people are doing, and having to help save someone who did something to their phone that they did after we told them not to.
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Please don't leave us Jim. You are an incredible resource. I'm new to Android and have learned many valuable things from you.
Remember, you don't have to help every person that bricks their phone.
Jim if you try to leave we will find you! ;p
Sent from my MB865
mtnlion said:
Jim if you try to leave we will find you! ;p
Sent from my MB865
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LOL... I am not going anywhere, I am just trying to make a point, that things like this killed the Atrix board, and I hope we don't repeat that.
We are here to help, and I wish that it would be realized that we are in "Research" mode right now, and are not to point of actually hacking, or have very many how to post yet for that reason.
You can't buy common sense but stupidity is free.
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LOL... I am not going anywhere, I am just trying to make a point, that things like this killed the Atrix board, and I hope we don't repeat that.
We are here to help, and I wish that it would be realized that we are in "Research" mode right now, and are not to point of actually hacking, or have very many how to post yet for that reason.
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WHEW.....You had me fixing to start looking at phone options!!! Honestly I'm to the point where I just read them and ignore them otherwise I say things I shouldn't LoL. But I will be the first to say this, IF THIS BOARD GETS AS BAD AS THE OG ATRIX DID, I WON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WALKING AWAY!
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You can't buy common sense but stupidity is free.
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You can't fix stupid either......
JRW 28 said:
WHEW.....You had me fixing to start looking at phone options!!! Honestly I'm to the point where I just read them and ignore them otherwise I say things I shouldn't LoL. But I will be the first to say this, IF THIS BOARD GETS AS BAD AS THE OG ATRIX DID, I WON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WALKING AWAY!
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Part of the issue I think is that everyone, who is doing these things, is of the I need this now, no matter what, camp... I just came a phone that had this, so this phone should too... LOL.
Yeah if it comes to anywhere close to the OG Atrix board I am out so fast it is not funny.
The thing is that I am most of the time ignoring these posts, but when you 6 people all did something similar, or like the OP did 4 or five things that messed his phone up, because he/they were impatient, you kind of have to tell them, look if you don't like it, get another phone. Heck the OP tried to say he was helping the cause by doing these things, when it was said so many times don't try this....
jimbridgman said:
Part of the issue I think is that everyone, who is doing these things, is of the I need this now, no matter what, camp... I just came a phone that had this, so this phone should too... LOL.
Yeah if it comes to anywhere close to the OG Atrix board I am out so fast it is not funny.
The thing is that I am most of the time ignoring these posts, but when you 6 people all did something similar, or like the OP did 4 or five things that messed his phone up, because he/they were impatient, you kind of have to tell them, look if you don't like it, get another phone. Heck the OP tried to say he was helping the cause by doing these things, when it was said so many times don't try this....
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The funny thing is the "OP" didn't do anything he was told not to due.. Instead he/I tried new approaches and have actually been able to recover from a few soft bricks at this point. We get places from trying new things not by talking down to those that try them. I'm trying to help as I own the phone too. I am not in any way "under-educated". I am a .Net developer and I am doing my best in my free time to help the community by opening up this phone to its full potential. Now, Am I impatient.... Hell Yes.. I want CM7 and ICS now. Will I get it now?.. No, but i'm trying to get the rest of you on your way. I cant believe you would try to push someone so willing away..
A better way to go about it would be to post your discoveries and share them to help others out instead of demanding things you need.
lfaber06 said:
What I need from the people here is a stock flash able rom.
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We aren't pushing anyone away that is willing to help and we welcome everyone that is willing to hel. But when you experiment know that we might not be able to help you and we have no way back to stock. By experimenting we found root,the bionic's bootstrap and we will have to continue to experiment. Part of progress is by finding out what works and what doesn't.
We need to all work together and not against each other. But with that said if you look at the amount of recent posts with people experiencing problems and calling for help is because they didn't do any research before hand and now they are asking for help for something they could have very well prevented by patiently doing a little homework.
With the progress you have said to have made, start a new thread about it explaining the procedures you went about to recover from the soft bricks so others can benefit from them as well. I can promise you we are all very interested.
JRW 28 said:
A better way to go about it would be to post your discoveries and share them to help others out instead of demanding things you need.
We aren't pushing anyone away that is willing to help and we welcome everyone that is willing to hel. But when you experiment know that we might not be able to help you and we have no way back to stock. By experimenting we found root,the bionic's bootstrap and we will have to continue to experiment. Part of progress is by finding out what works and what doesn't.
We need to all work together and not against each other. But with that said if you look at the amount of recent posts with people experiencing problems and calling for help is because they didn't do any research before hand and now they are asking for help for something they could have very well prevented by patiently doing a little homework.
With the progress you have said to have made, start a new thread about it explaining the procedures you went about to recover from the soft bricks so others can benefit from them as well. I can promise you we are all very interested.
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Thanks, and Very well said, I agree 100%