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I see from another posting in the diamond forum that people have managed to get BB Connect running on the diamond.
At the moment I use system7 on my nokia n95 to get email pushed from my work exchange server, however everyone else in the office has a blackberry (I didn't want one of these hence my finding an alternative solution).
does anyone have any experience of the direct push technology offered with windows mobile 6?
I might use the bbconnect application (if I can get it working) as it appears to do everything I want it to, but I just thought that if there's already an app in WM that does the trick, I might as well stick with that.
You say you have exchange at work?
The push email system will work just nicely with it, you might have to get onto your network admin and see if they offer activesync connection to it but its very likely they do. You sync your email, contacts, tasks and calender with it...works a treat.
I currently use DenaiL's service on here and it works very nicely...you should be up and running pretty swiftly if ur network admin confirms you can use it.
EDIT: Activesync is built into EVERY ROM in windows mobile and this is the primary way to sync the device over the air (via GPRS/HSDPA or wifi to get push email) or via USB.
we have exchange server at work, but I doubt they'll let me add any software (activesync) to it.
Exchange already has the software needed in it, its a native function of exchange to allow a windows mobile device to sync with it.
EAS is a native part of exchange, but it is turned off by default i think.
I know my place have it turned off, despite all the company mobile supporting EAS, and all the employees using HTC devices that natively support it.
Go figure.
I think they want to save a couple of hundred of quid on a certificate, and spend thousands of pounds on corporate intellisync licenses instead.
so my company would have to invest in a new license to enable EAS?
I'm pretty sure they would have to buy a license to allow me to use BBConnect too? I know that we are running 5 or 6 BBs in the company, each one requiring a license....or have I been misled?
thanks, I really want to ensure that my push email will work perfectly on the device when I get it.
I dont own a HTC Touch Diamond or a Touch Pro. I own a HTC Touch and use Hosted Exchange as my primary email service provider. I use the direct-push technology in WM6 and sync with my exchange account. It works like a charm and I have yet to experience any problems with it. I get my email on my Touch within 10 seconds of receiving the email in my inbox.
Memory fades about Exchange 2003, however, I *think* Exchange direct-push is enabled by default on Exchange 2007. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
Exchange 2003 w/ SP2 automatically enabled Direct-Push. Same w/ all flavors of 2007. With Exchange 2007, admins DO need to enable Active Sync, but they can do it on a user by user basis if they want to. It shouldn't be a big deal for your IT admins to turn it on for you. Hope this helps.
excellent, thanks for the replies. We are running 2003 SP2, so hopefully in a few days time I might have proper push email. the app I'm currently running (system7) is totally crap at the moment..had nothing pushed for nearly a week!!
I did a search and didn't find the software anywhere on XDA -
For those who don't know - you can have your exchange account synced with your G1 in real time.
The only catch, the software is $50/year - a bit expensive but I'm sure something will come out open source eventually.
The software basically grabs all your outlook data for your exchange account and syncs it into gmail contacts/calendar/mail - folders work and using googles send as 2nd email address - you can send mails via the G1 as the email address you use with exchange. It's really a pretty flawless integration of all your exchange data, quite impressive.
I've been using it for a few days and it works flawlessly - they have a free trial too if you aren't sure.
The software is called MailShadowG and can be downloaded from - www.cemaphore.com
Their support is really good too if you require it.
Sorry if this is has been mentioned before, I couldn't find it on search anywhere and wanted to share the info with others who may not have known this was here.
if all you need is the exchange calendar, then u can use google's calendar sync application to sync between google's calendar and the exchange calendar.
Hmmm. This program seems odd. I'm going to stick with TouchDown. www.nitrodesk.com
Mi|enko said:
Hmmm. This program seems odd. I'm going to stick with TouchDown. www.nitrodesk.com
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I didn't even know TouchDown existed.
A few issues I see with touchdown though - it only gives you the calendar events for one single day, and there is no real-time updating, you have to manually go in and refresh to get new email.
One thing I like about MailShadowG - is that, essentially, you are getting all the real-time push and same features of having your exchange with outlook on a Win Mo phone. Full calendar, contacts, and email in real time synced with your exchange.
Even touchdown admits to all these faults, MailShadow does virtually all these -
* Exchange 2003 support has some limitations
* Does not push email (but we're pulling hard for it)
* You have to poll periodically (please dont do it too frequently 3G downloads are rather drain'y on the battery)
* Calendar shows just one day of events (today)
* You have to refresh the calendar yourself. (the only time the calendar refreshes itself if you made a change to a non-recurring event ocurring on the same day)
* You cannot add bcc to email
* You cannot create or edit appointments
aardvark is working on exchange with full push capabilities.
Anyone offering anything that doesn't do real push email, is not worth bothering with IMO.
Push is crucial.
MailShadowG DOES do real push - since your G1 already does push with the Gmail contacts/calendar/gmail.
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You might be out of luck then for now, just have to wait for Aardvark. MailShadow is an outlook add-on, roughly. So your PC must be on with outlook running. You must have Exchange Caching enabled as well as the ability to open imap.gmail.com to port 993 - if you can do these things you should have no problem getting it to work.
Do you get exchange at home as well on your outlook?
I was skeptical of MailShadowG at first so I used the trial, but it works extremely well, everything is near instantaneous - it syncs with the phones contacts/calendar/mail and feels just like real-time exchange like I had on my 8525.
However, due to their stupid 1 year license and rather expensive price - I'm banking on there being a cheaper/free exchange solution within the next year or so. Although I do love having all my exchange data backed up in my gmail which is kind of cool.
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MailShadowG DOES do real push - since your G1 already does push with the Gmail contacts/calendar/gmail.
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I don't use Gmail. I use exchange 2003
Henchman said:
I don't use Gmail. I use exchange 2003
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The program sync's your exchange data into gmail and makes it accessible via the G1 - you are still using exchange - in fact, the email you send on your G1 will be sent via your exchange email address. A major benefit to this setup is that all your exchange data is backed up on gmail servers as well. Plus, if exchange should go down, you can send via gmail (setting in the mailshadow config).
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The program sync's your exchange data into gmail and makes it accessible via the G1 - you are still using exchange - in fact, the email you send on your G1 will be sent via your exchange email address.
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Greta, so now I have duplicate emails everywhere, that I then need to delete form my original exchange mailbox.
No thanks.
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Greta, so now I have duplicate emails everywhere, that I then need to delete form my original exchange mailbox.
No thanks.
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Why such negativity? It's like you just want to hate a nice piece of software.
Your only duplicate is a BACKUP.. If you delete a message in gmail (on your G1) then that message is deleted in outlook/exchange. Heck, if you READ a message on your G1 in gmail, it will instantly show up in outlook as read. And vice versa. If you move a file to a different folder on your phone, it moves that file in outlook/exchange as well.
This truly is a pretty all-encompassing exchange solution for the G1. I use it for my business and work email that's on exchange and it works really well.
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I can only access my webmail client outside of work
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Well your work sucks. Lol. Guess you'll have to keep using the Wing for now until Aardvark is finished - and that is considering Aardvark even works.
It's a shame the company won't let you sync gmail with exchange.
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Why such negativity? It's like you just want to hate a nice piece of software.
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No, but if they're going to charge $50,- A YEAR, then I expect a proper working App, that syncs to Exchange dureclty using proper push, and not same half baked hacked together workaround using ANOTHER email client.
I think that's a pretty reasonable expectation.
If they were offering it for free, it would be an acceptable compromise for now.
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No, but if they're going to charge $50,- A YEAR, then I expect a proper working App, that syncs to Exchange dureclty using proper push, and not same half baked hacked together workaround using ANOTHER email client.
I think that's a pretty reasonable expectation.
If they were offering it for free, it would be an acceptable compromise for now.
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But thats the thing, it's really not "half baked" - I would prefer a one time license fee and also believe it's a bit expensive for what the program does... but they are the ONLY company with a real exchange solution right now. And at the end of the day, my contacts/calendar/email is sync'd with my exchange account 100% with a backup on gmail.
I think it's overpriced but I have to have my exchange on my phone so I don't have a choice. Because of their pricing, as soon as exchange support is released I will be dumping MailShadow - if it was fairly priced, I'd probably actually keep it over a true exchange support due to the backup and gmail integration.
I would rather pay (and I did) $19 for a license from Touchdown and have my phone poll and look actually work like a real program than what this program does for $50/year. If Touchdown doesnt get some things resolved like push (most important) or the options to see or open attachments/embedded jpg's, I will hope that Aardvark comes in where Touchdown falters. But as of now, I am happy with Touchdown until something better comes along....and MailShadow is not it.
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I would rather pay (and I did) $19 for a license from Touchdown and have my phone poll and look actually work like a real program than what this program does for $50/year. If Touchdown doesnt get some things resolved like push (most important) or the options to see or open attachments/embedded jpg's, I will hope that Aardvark comes in where Touchdown falters. But as of now, I am happy with Touchdown until something better comes along....and MailShadow is not it.
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I've actually been using TouchDown and it's not that bad. I just set it to pull data every hour. One thing I'll warn you about is that it only pulls down data that hits the server after the initial connection and refresh. So, any back email you might have in your box won't be downloaded. Personally, at work I have everything on a 3 day archive, so my mailbox in 3 days won't have anything I received today, which makes it a non problem for me. But I have a feeling they'll probably fix it in the future anyway.
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But thats the thing, it's really not "half baked" - I would prefer a one time license fee and also believe it's a bit expensive for what the program does... but they are the ONLY company with a real exchange solution right now. And at the end of the day, my contacts/calendar/email is sync'd with my exchange account 100% with a backup on gmail.
I think it's overpriced but I have to have my exchange on my phone so I don't have a choice. Because of their pricing, as soon as exchange support is released I will be dumping MailShadow - if it was fairly priced, I'd probably actually keep it over a true exchange support due to the backup and gmail integration.
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It may not be "half baked" but a user agent that dumps the exchange data to gmail is not a "real exchange solution." This thing would get you all sorts of static from a corporate IT department!
If it works for you, great, but it's definitely not an ideal workaround by any stretch.
It is a real exchange solution. It may not be a real exchange solution for every company - but it is for others.
For me, it actually turned my G1 into a phone that has all my exchange data in real-time push. To me, that is a solution
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I would rather pay (and I did) $19 for a license from Touchdown and have my phone poll and look actually work like a real program than what this program does for $50/year. If Touchdown doesnt get some things resolved like push (most important) or the options to see or open attachments/embedded jpg's, I will hope that Aardvark comes in where Touchdown falters. But as of now, I am happy with Touchdown until something better comes along....and MailShadow is not it.
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Touchdown is extremely limited with no push, whereas MailShadow gives you all your exchange data - both in AND out of the phone in real time. To me, that seems like a pretty ideal solution.
Considering you are using gmail/calendar/contacts - you are definitely getting a "real" program with MailShadow.
I think MailShadow is expensive, but you definitely get what they say you do, and that is ALL your exchange features you are used to, in real-time push - on the G1. You can set appointments on the calendar, get multiple days, instant notification of new emails, integrates with your phones contacts, etc.
Thats true that it doesnt have any push. But at the same time, I wont get in trouble w/my supervisors. Im in IT and we dont allow any corporate email to be forwarded anywhere (especially gmail). I work for a pharmaceutical company so obviously all email has to be secure. Company email going to Gmail is a really big concern for any big corporation, especially in the healthcare field. While I think its a good idea if its a small company or a company that doesnt care about security, it wont cut it for the others. That, on top of a 1 time fee as opposed to a yearly fee....its a no brainer. I change my polling to change by how often I need my email. If Im stepping away from my office, I have it polling every minute. If Im in the office and on my computer, I dont really need for it to be checked, so I can change it to every 5 or 10 minutes. I just hope that either they or Aardvark roll out push Exchange soon, in the meantime, I will continue to use Touchdown.
Yup, hopefully Aardvark comes out soon with a sweet Exchange solution soon.
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Hi guys
i'm thinking of throwing Android on my HD2 but before I do, I need to know if I can support a couple of things?
Can I support two exchange email accounts?
Will it pull sync ALL info including pictures of people from the server?
Are there any particular fields that are not supported, like the "Notes"?
Is there a Microsoft OneNote client?
I'm guessing there is no MS Zune client at the moment either? Does anyone know if there are any plans?
To support the above, do I need a specific version of Android?
Thanks!!!!
Our Exchange setup was just changed to support the enhanced security features and they just forced the "remote wipe" capability.
So everybody who was used to the stock client is shut out!
Google issued a patch for the same BUT to ENTERPRISE customers only!
googleenterprise dot blogspot dot com/2011/04/putting-android-to-work-for-your.html
What the hell was that about.
The stock android mail client was working for me a lot of the people and now it just gives some error about unable to connect.
Now if we need our corporate email we have to either buy the Commercial product:
TouchDown Email : $20
MoxiMail : $20
Enhanced Email : $10
OR compromise with the free clients which just does mail.
K-9 Mail works for most of the Motorola Droid phones.
I have a LG GT540 and it stopped after a day.
MailDroid works better on LG GT540 android phone. I have a rooted android 2.2 on GT540.
All the free mail clients are the basic exchange mail clients which can help you to read email and reply to email.
It does not have GAL (corporate addressbook Lookup). So you need to know the email address of the person to send email to.
Workaround: Corporate AddressBook
Looks up corporate addressbook and has search function.
After a few weeks use most of them switched to MailDroid which seems to be more stable.
Any of the genius out there who have been working on the ROM have been able to get the patch in so that the stock email client can work as it is supposed to work?
That was the core function most users use their phone for and now it does not work unless you pay up and buy a commercial product.
Help please
EVO 4G Exchange server
I have this work phone that I want to root but I don't want to mess up the ssl encryption. Will this happen if I root my phone. I don't want to go back to the IT Dept. to get it. The encryption is on my phone, but I can't see it. How do I save the encryption.
Hello,
I just purchased the G2X with the understanding that it supports exchange corporate email. When I try to setup the email, I get the error "this server requires security features your phone does not support". I have tried checking both of the security certificate boxes and confirmed that I am entering the right address.
Does the phone support Exchange? My company uses Exchange 2007.
Thanks for your help,
Lance
The built in mail client is pretty bad for exchange tbh. My particular issue was that it could not let me see the contents of most of my folders. I've started using touchdown for exchange, it has a free 30 day trial and is much better.
I saw options for exchange 2007 when installing it so hopefully it supports your company's security policy. It does and auto detect of server config on initial setup.
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Exchange works fine for me here. You might want to check with your IT department. If there is anything wrong with the way they setup OWA or what ever it is called to access exchange over the web, then you might have issues.
Yup, Exchange works fine for me. It uses DAV over OWA instead of true ActiveSync, but only WinMo supports REAL ActiveSync anyway. In practice you really can't tell the difference.
I also use touchdown for exchange. It's pretty nice and also you get 90 day trail if you download from amazon app store.
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Exchange 2007 works here
We use hosted exchange 2007 at our company and the stock app works for me as well. +1 for talking to your IT department or trying Touchdown.
They'll need to enable support for non-provisionable devices on the Exchange server for the ActiveSync policy assigned to you. Or you can go with Touchdown as suggested as Touchdown has a better ActiveSync implementation than the stock client.
Did you guys know this?
I think I am screwed for my email accounts.
Trying to sort out email alternatives with forwarding and such. MS has really come up with a convoluted email system, with their Outlook.com alias, etc.
I like the Surface, but I am a techy - I can see where the average user will have issues wit hthe way they do things and the lack of easy help.
It has options for pop3...What type of email do you have that it's giving issues with??
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It has options for pop3...What type of email do you have that it's giving issues with??
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It has an option for Pop, but when you choose it, it will come up with an error saying its not supported . I see there are workarounds with forwarding and such but not as clean.
Until I can sort out I am forwarding all my mail through Gmail which I can pull into the Surface
The email that is causing all this is roadrunner.com
I didn't have any issues setting up my pop3 account hosted with ipower
you may need update the build-in mail app in Windows Store to newest version.
its not only RT. The windows 8 mail app doesnt support pop...... yet.
That is a curious decision by Microsoft. I haven't used a pop account in at least three years so no big deal for me.
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Windows Live Mail
Windows Live Mail supports POP3, so there's a free alternative. I haven't used POP3 in a long time, except with my comcast account, which I don't need to check everywhere, but I do have it configured in WLM.
So, I just checked my Surface, and sure enough, it does NOT support POP mail accounts. It actually tells you right when you choose POP that it's not supported and requests you ask your provider to supply IMAP or Exchange accounts.
I bought the surface two days ago on the Microsoft Store opening on San Juan. I did it tomuse it more to work and the first think I did was try to installs my work email. It is a pop3 and I really can't believe is not working... this should be a business oriented tablet.
I tried the work around but I need when I replay an email to go with my work email, not my Hotmail account.
If some one know an app that do it please let me know.
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I bought the surface two days ago on the Microsoft Store opening on San Juan. I did it tomuse it more to work and the first think I did was try to installs my work email. It is a pop3 and I really can't believe is not working... this should be a business oriented tablet.
I tried the work around but I need when I replay an email to go with my work email, not my Hotmail account.
If some one know an app that do it please let me know.
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MS is supposed to be releasing an update to Mail to fix this.
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MS is supposed to be releasing an update to Mail to fix this.
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Hope it comes before 12 days that I have to return it...
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The Mail app is generally complete junk for any non-EAS accounts. It literally would've been more fully-featured if they just ported over the Windows Phone 7.5 mail app (which supports POP3). IMAP support is horrendous (WP7's is also not great, but less atrocious), and lots of certificate-related issues.
Currently my main email account (IMAP) half-works-- sometimes emails load, but nothing sends (permanently stuck in outbox), and two other IMAP accounts don't work at all (doesn't accept the settings, which work fine on Outlook and WP7.5). Exchange accounts generally work fine.
The message they give you after you select POP3 might as well have a trollface on there.
I don't have the surface. But in add and remove, Windows companies, mail service, you need to check the pop protocol. I know my orders aren't as it is on the screen. But it's what I can remember.
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I don't have the surface. But in add and remove, Windows companies, mail service, you need to check the pop protocol. I know my orders aren't as it is on the screen. But it's what I can remember.
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That menu 1) doesn't exist in Windows RT and 2) even on Windows 8, it only affects Outlook, not the Metro Mail app.
I can't believe we are now a month after release of the Surface and still no POP3, or Mail program fix. On other forums and MS' own support forum, people are fuming about this stupid decision to ignore POP3 and people are returning. I know moit email providers have gone IMAP, but there are plenty of big ones who haven't yet and isn't MS all about customer choices.
Another thing - even in IMAP, if your SMTP outgoing server doesn't have SSL then you won't be able to send mail either. The only email I have that works is Gmail, and its the one I don't use much. Can't send business mail from my Surface.
I guess they want this thing to fail so they can upsell us all to the Surface Pro. . .
I am totally agreed. I read that MS push updates every second Tuesday of the month, so hopefully they fix it...
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"Oh no! MS prioritized the better, faster, more secure protocol instead of the vestigial sack of puss my primary email still uses! How ridiculous!" -Everyone in this thread.
They'll get around to pop3, but is forwarding your mail to an imap account really a nuisance? You'll get all the advantages of imap AND the original pop account acts as a backup for all mail in case something goes wrong.
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"Oh no! MS prioritized the better, faster, more secure protocol instead of the vestigial sack of puss my primary email still uses! How ridiculous!" -Everyone in this thread.
They'll get around to pop3, but is forwarding your mail to an imap account really a nuisance? You'll get all the advantages of imap AND the original pop account acts as a backup for all mail in case something goes wrong.
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Yes it is - SMTP is broken too for some mail servers - I can't send a stupid work email with my real email address, which is IMPA on incoming.
Your response of get around to it sounds absurd a month after launch. Believe it or not some mail providers still do use POP3, and we shouldn't have to change our email to use the surface. Its things like this that will kill RT before it even gets off the ground.
News is that MS is already cutting back on production of the Surface - Here we go.