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[Q] European(UK) sensation Vs Sensation 4G (US)

Since I live in the armpit of technology, NZ, I'm in the process of looking to source this phone abroad, just sold my desire HD for a great price here ( at least there is a benefit for living here -reselling value holds good) and was looking for the best place to buy the phone.
Boils down to US or UK.
If its the UK, then Clove.co.uk will be my first choice as they have done well by me before ( though they were expensive compared to the US , I had £ there, so used that first)
If I get the sensation 4G for vodafone here (2100 and 900MHz) am I likely to run into any issues.
or should I get it from the UK.
what are the differences between the models if any... can't find nowt anywhere comparing the models for any differences.... is it just a marketing difference ??
Damn those XDA videos are getting great !!!
Pier

not 100% sure but from the box shots I've seen of the released UK version and spy shots of the T-mobile US version, the only difference is in the 3G/UTMS frequency.
UK is 900/1700/2100
US is 1700/1900/2100
plehmann said:
Since I live in the armpit of technology, NZ, I'm in the process of looking to source this phone abroad, just sold my desire HD for a great price here ( at least there is a benefit for living here -reselling value holds good) and was looking for the best place to buy the phone.
Boils down to US or UK.
If its the UK, then Clove.co.uk will be my first choice as they have done well by me before ( though they were expensive compared to the US , I had £ there, so used that first)
If I get the sensation 4G for vodafone here (2100 and 900MHz) am I likely to run into any issues.
or should I get it from the UK.
what are the differences between the models if any... can't find nowt anywhere comparing the models for any differences.... is it just a marketing difference ??
Damn those XDA videos are getting great !!!
Pier
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I think the phones are identical except the US version has Tmobile bloatware.
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NardVa said:
I think the phones are identical except the US version has Tmobile bloatware.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App
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From what I understand T-Mobile is relatively good when it comes to bloatware. They have even released some phones with stock Android versus the version with the OEM's skin.
Not as good as the Vodafone version I'm guessing though and never as good as the sim-unlocked one but still I'm hoping it's not horrible.

I tend to get my phones from expansys.co.nz. However they don't have a price or availability yet.

1) Will there be a speed difference if used on Tmo US?
2) Will it be possible to flash the Rom from the Sensation 4G to the Sensation in the future for wifi calling?

solsearch said:
From what I understand T-Mobile is relatively good when it comes to bloatware.
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Oh, so not true. Some of the problems the G2X (O2X) are experiencing are being attributed to some of the T-Mobile apps. And that was supposed to be a "vanilla Google" phone. Their version will have a proprietary Wi-Fi Calling app that will no doubt interfere with SIP on the phone. You'll also be dependent on T-Mobile for updates which will always be slower than HTC direct. If you're going to root the phone and load custom ROMs this is of course mute.

Chinese Sensation

Hey there
I know I've been inactive on XDA for a while, I'm sorry for that
My Sensation has been stolen a while ago and I wasn't able to get it at all, so I'm planning of getting a new one. I live in Egypt and not planning of buying one from here at all.
I'm currently planning of getting an HTC Sensation XE, what you guys think about it? Or should I wait for the Sensation XL?
For now, I have a friend traveling to China, so maybe he'll buy it from there, is it a bad idea? What Software Versions come on Chinese Sensations?
About the price, will it be cheaper in China or USA?
Thanks a lot guys

I currently live in China and got my sensation here 2 weeks ago. I don't think there's an official Chinese version of Sensation. All I've seen here are black market handsets (I might be wrong though).
But what I'm certain is that most of the Sensation sold here is European version. They rooted the phone and replaced the ROM with those found in Hongkong or Taiwan version of the Sensation (so they can change the main language to Chinese).
When I purchased mine, I was offered that kind of handset for 2900CNY (without the memory card though, I even doubt the phone IMEI matches the box IMEI). There's also another set (Hongkong version) which is brand new, unrooted, still wrapped in original plastic packaging, and carried 8gb TF card). They do not need to do anything to this phone because it's Hongkong version, it supports Chinese by deafault. After some bargaining I managed to get it at 3130CNY.
230CNY difference, but if you minus the 8gb TF card (goes for around 100CNY), the difference is only about 130 CNY. But I feel much safer with the brand new handset. And so far I had no complaint at all.
Hope this helps

as a chinese, i wanna tell you that most htc phones' users in Mainland China are not using phones that should be sold in chinese mainland(most use phones that should be sold in HongKong and Taiwan, and my sensation should be sold in singapore), although we just buy them in mainland china. so our phones are not legal and have no guarantee. so don't buy cell phone in mainland china, obviously HK, TW, USA, or any other contries are better choices.
sorry for my bad english, i hope my reply can help you.
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forzanetti said:
I currently live in China and got my sensation here 2 weeks ago. I don't think there's an official Chinese version of Sensation. All I've seen here are black market handsets (I might be wrong though).
But what I'm certain is that most of the Sensation sold here is European version. They rooted the phone and replaced the ROM with those found in Hongkong or Taiwan version of the Sensation (so they can change the main language to Chinese).
When I purchased mine, I was offered that kind of handset for 2900CNY (without the memory card though, I even doubt the phone IMEI matches the box IMEI). There's also another set (Hongkong version) which is brand new, unrooted, still wrapped in original plastic packaging, and carried 8gb TF card). They do not need to do anything to this phone because it's Hongkong version, it supports Chinese by deafault. After some bargaining I managed to get it at 3130CNY.
230CNY difference, but if you minus the 8gb TF card (goes for around 100CNY), the difference is only about 130 CNY. But I feel much safer with the brand new handset. And so far I had no complaint at all.
Hope this helps
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hey man, u r right but actually the most version in china is hongkong's ,taiwan's, and some other asian contry's(just like singapore version).

-=JohnDoe=- said:
hey man, u r right but actually the most version in china is hongkong's ,taiwan's, and some other asian contry's(just like singapore version).
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I was offered 欧版 which I assume is European version?? 港版 and 亚太版 are slightly more expensive..

Actually its more important to find a sim-free phone rather than what country its origins. Cos the roms can still be flashed but if you land with a sim-locked phone, it won't be easy for you.

forzanetti said:
I was offered 欧版 which I assume is European version?? 港版 and 亚太版 are slightly more expensive..
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yeah 欧版 is european version.
港版 and 亚太版 are more expensive just because they support chinese as original language

Thanks a lot guys!
Seems like a big deal buying it from china as I prefer buying one legally and still in the box..
So, seems like I'm buying an XE from Dubai What you think about this phone?
Any recommendations? Should I go for another phone instead? what you guys think?
Thanks again everybody

thunderskain said:
Actually its more important to find a sim-free phone rather than what country its origins. Cos the roms can still be flashed but if you land with a sim-locked phone, it won't be easy for you.
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I don't mind buying a sim-locked phone, I can manage it
I just need to find the right place to buy it from hahaha

I bought a HTC Sensation in the Netherlands and it seemed to be a imported united kingdom model and there was no Dutch neither Chinese in the list off languages.
However that was easy solved. You just need to download an app from the Market called MoreLocale 2
Because it seems in fact the language is there, but you can just not select it via the settings and need this app, as far as I saw it worked perfect because the HTC Sensation is not setup in Chinese.

DexterMorganNL said:
I bought a HTC Sensation in the Netherlands and it seemed to be a imported united kingdom model and there was no Dutch neither Chinese in the list off languages.
However that was easy solved. You just need to download an app from the Market called MoreLocale 2
Because it seems in fact the language is there, but you can just not select it via the settings and need this app, as far as I saw it worked perfect because the HTC Sensation is not setup in Chinese.
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Thank you
I don't understand Chinese, I was just scared to buy a Sensation from China and to find it fake or without warranty..
I just didn't want to find myself with a Stock Chinese Rom, as I like using Stock Rom for the first week or two then start using Custom Roms..

claudenegm said:
Thanks a lot guys!
Seems like a big deal buying it from china as I prefer buying one legally and still in the box..
So, seems like I'm buying an XE from Dubai What you think about this phone?
Any recommendations? Should I go for another phone instead? what you guys think?
Thanks again everybody
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It'll be slightly overpriced, but of you don't mind that, go for it!
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[Q] Sensation XE made in China

Hello,
I tried to find an answer in the forum but couldn't, sorry for the new thread.
Well, I received my HTC Sensation XE today (Orange UK), but when I looked at the black sticker on the box I was frustrated to see that it's made in China
(with all respect to China)
The label inside the phone says that too.
I was hoping for a one made in Taiwan, as my current HTC HD2 is made in Taiwan, and HTC is a Taiwanese company.
I'm wondering, are most of the Sensation XE's made in China? Or did I get a bad deal here?
Are the ones made in China 2nd grade or something?

f_ammari said:
Hello,
I tried to find an answer in the forum but couldn't, sorry for the new thread.
Well, I received my HTC Sensation XE today (Orange UK), but when I looked at the black sticker on the box I was frustrated to see that it's made in China
(with all respect to China)
The label inside the phone says that too.
I was hoping for a one made in Taiwan, as my current HTC HD2 is made in Taiwan, and HTC is a Taiwanese company.
I'm wondering, are most of the Sensation XE's made in China? Or did I get a bad deal here?
Are the ones made in China 2nd grade or something?
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Labor is cheaper materials are cheaper, but a company like HTC will maintain quality.
Just because it's made in China, doesn't mean that it's a substandard product.

Nowadays almost all phones are made in China. It doesn't matter if it is HTC, Samsung or Apple.
It does not affect the quality of the phone.
Sent from my GT-P1000

Thanks guys. Yeah I know that iPhone for example is made in China... But still hoped my sensation was made in Taiwan.
Does Orange UK usually ship Chinese phones or it's just my luck?
Sent from my Sensation using XDA

dont care,htc have several factories in the world, most products manufacturered from Shanghai to all over the world

My Samsung Galaxy S8+ is showing Korean content on an Australian version

I bought this phone from **** Smith which is an online shop that has been bought out by Kogan a year ago and although the store is in Australia, the phone seems to be imported from Korea. When I turn on the phone I get a Korean Telecom logo on boot along with the Samsung logo. I knew that wasnt normal for a phone that was bought from an Australian store but I let it slide, however, when I go into Bixby, I get Korean content from the Korean YouTube and I also get other Korean information. I hate having Korean content showing on my phone, is there any way to change it? Also, whenever I click on the weather app and just tap on the weather for the week, it takes me to a website which is a Korean weather website.

notsteven said:
I bought this phone from **** Smith which is an online shop that has been bought out by Kogan a year ago and although the store is in Australia, the phone seems to be imported from Korea. When I turn on the phone I get a Korean Telecom logo on boot along with the Samsung logo. I knew that wasnt normal for a phone that was bought from an Australian store but I let it slide, however, when I go into Bixby, I get Korean content from the Korean YouTube and I also get other Korean information. I hate having Korean content showing on my phone, is there any way to change it? Also, whenever I click on the weather app and just tap on the weather for the week, it takes me to a website which is a Korean weather website.
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You should have bought a genuine AUSTRALIAN S8+

henklbr said:
You should have bought a genuine AUSTRALIAN S8+
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No ****, wanna tell me anything else I dont know? ""

Install australian android via odin.

+1 for NeedleGames' reply - just download the Australian version of the sm-g955f software and flash via odin. The hardware is exactly the same.

Just remember though, you'll need to go back to **** Smith/Kogan if you ever need to use your warranty...
Samsung don't honor warranty repairs for grey imports....

notsteven said:
No ****, wanna tell me anything else I dont know? ""
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No need to get aggressive with him, he had a point. You should've known what you were getting into when you bought it.
If you say it has a Korean Telecom logo when you boot it up, it's the SM-G955N variant, only launched in South Korea, specifically for their carriers. No way to remove the bloat without rooting the phone.
There's a separate discussion thread for the Korean S8+: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/how-to/sm-g955n-samsung-galaxy-s8-korean-128gb-t3612058
NeedleGames said:
Install australian android via odin.
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It's not that simple.
lwid said:
+1 for NeedleGames' reply - just download the Australian version of the sm-g955f software and flash via odin. The hardware is exactly the same.
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Same hardware doesn't mean Odin or the phone is gonna accept the file for a G955F.
People really need to read up before they give out suggestions.

Is anyone able to help me out with using Odin to change my phone? Obviously Im a beginner with very little knowledge on this kind of stuff

notsteven said:
Is anyone able to help me out with using Odin to change my phone? Obviously Im a beginner with very little knowledge on this kind of stuff
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You can't change anything.
Read the thread I linked, you'll have to root your phone and get rid of all the carrier bloatware.

**** Smith aka Kogan
notsteven said:
I bought this phone from **** Smith which is an online shop that has been bought out by Kogan a year ago and although the store is in Australia, the phone seems to be imported from Korea. When I turn on the phone I get a Korean Telecom logo on boot along with the Samsung logo. I knew that wasnt normal for a phone that was bought from an Australian store but I let it slide, however, when I go into Bixby, I get Korean content from the Korean YouTube and I also get other Korean information. I hate having Korean content showing on my phone,
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I had a similar experience to you, whilst comparison shopping on line I was given no cause to believe that the phone on offer by **** Smith Electronics was any different to that on offer by the other Iconic Australian suppliers such as JB HiFi, Harvey Norman or The Good Guys. My assumption was that the product was cheaper simply because **** Smith Electronics no longer has stores or staff to maintain. I never even heard of "grey imports".
So whilst I take the point made by Murtaza02 that we "should have known what we were getting into", its not unless you scroll down past the "also bought with this product" section and into the product description that you are alerted to the fact that this is a "direct import international version" (whatever that means to the non-suspecting consumer). And even if you do investigate further, the website states:-
"You may notice minor differences when compared with models purchased locally, however, all international models are supplied with an Australian compliant generic charger and are suited for use in Australia."
"Minor differences" ? The differences are significant enough to prompt savvy shoppers who deliberately purchase grey imports for the substantial savings that they can offer to turn around and go to a lot of trouble "flashing" the phone so that it "works like the Australian versions of the phone"
I regret my purchase with **** Smith Electronics AKA Kogan. And whilst I assume some responsibility for not having investigated the origin of the phone further before my purchase, even in retrospect, I feel I was never given any cause to do so.
In fact it seems to me that the whole DSE website is nothing more than a front for the Hong Kong based drop shipping company and the purchase procedure deliberately engineered so as to not raise suspicion in the mind of the consumer that the phone is anything other than a genuine Australian version.
On my further research, the $999 price point avoids alerting the consumer that this is an imported model by not attracting GST, and the "limit 1 per customer" in retrospect is a further prevention of the consumer being alerted to GST obligations and therefore the fact that the phone is a "grey import". DSE advertise "Don't pay $1345" (for the same phone is implied here). And they say shipping is "ex stock" and "1-2 days".
I really feel in the case where an Australian Iconic Business such as **** Smith Electronics is offering a phone for purchase within Australia that they need to make it clear to consumers from the onset and within the front matter that this is a "grey import" and differs from the "Australian" version so that consumers can make an informed decision and are not duped or fooled or led to believe otherwise.

About htc u12+ support cdma network

Hello everyone, I am from China, my English is very bad, please forgive me. I am a fan of htc, but my htc u11 has been stolen. At present, htc's mobile phone can't be bought in China. I can buy htc u12+ through German Amazon. However, since I use China Telecom, it uses the cdma network. The European version is definitely not supported. Therefore, I would like to ask you if you can brush up the Chinese version or other ways to support China Telecom's cdma. Thank you

You can't. HTC did not build the u12+ with CDMA support.
In the United States Verizon uses CDMA and LTE. The u12 only works on LTE for that network but it has issues.

Tachi91 said:
You can't. HTC did not build the u12+ with CDMA support.
In the United States Verizon uses CDMA and LTE. The u12 only works on LTE for that network but it has issues.
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Thank you for the reply. In China, htc u12+ has been completely removed and cannot be purchased. The Chinese version supports cdma network, but unfortunately it can't be bought now.

While I am an HTC fan, such as yourself, I would recommend getting a different device than the U12+. I have the U12+, live in the US and I am on Verizon's network. I cannot dial emergency numbers (911), the phone has proven to be super fragile (I've broken both the back and the digitizer since purchase, both very expensive to replace), HTC customer support has all but dried up, at least for this device, the U12+ is slated to get Android Pie while other older models have gotten it already, even the lower end U12 Life model all before this Flagship phone. Worse is we're hearing there's are no guarantees that it will ever get the update. I've been reading articles that predict 5G will all but kill HTC, at least in the US market, there seems to be no good news out there for this company. If I had my $1000 (USD) to spend all over again knowing what I know now I would have found a different device.

VidJunky said:
While I am an HTC fan, such as yourself, I would recommend getting a different device than the U12+. I have the U12+, live in the US and I am on Verizon's network. I cannot dial emergency numbers (911), the phone has proven to be super fragile (I've broken both the back and the digitizer since purchase, both very expensive to replace), HTC customer support has all but dried up, at least for this device, the U12+ is slated to get Android Pie while other older models have gotten it already, even the lower end U12 Life model all before this Flagship phone. Worse is we're hearing there's are no guarantees that it will ever get the update. I've been reading articles that predict 5G will all but kill HTC, at least in the US market, there seems to be no good news out there for this company. If I had my $1000 (USD) to spend all over again knowing what I know now I would have found a different device.
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Yes, I agree with you. Htc has no innovation, and the update speed has slowed down noticeably. Not only the United States, but China is also the same. But apart from htc, I really can't find a good phone. My request is to be able to use the cdma network, and to use the excellent lcd screen, and the native system that is close to Google.

zzw19921212 said:
...apart from htc, I really can't find a good phone... and the native system that is close to Google.
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The UI was probably 35% of my decision to get this device. I was familiar with Sense and liked it. The specs were probably 40% of my decision. They aren't the absolute best but they are up there. The style/look, my feelings about other HTC devices I've owned and everything else make up the last 25%.
I can't really help you with your CDMA question other than to say that I've had issues on Verizon that I didn't really give much consideration to until this post. If it is true that the device only operates on the LTE portion of the network then that's probably why I had to go to Verizon and have them fix texting for me and probably why I can't dial emergency numbers. There may be other things I'm missing because they aren't as obvious. My entire experience on this device hasn't felt as rich or full as when I was using the HTC M10. I've never experienced that before moving from device to device. I've got probably another 7 to 10 months before I'm aching for a new device and truthfully I don't know what I'm going to do when that time comes.

VidJunky said:
The UI was probably 35% of my decision to get this device. I was familiar with Sense and liked it. The specs were probably 40% of my decision. They aren't the absolute best but they are up there. The style/look, my feelings about other HTC devices I've owned and everything else make up the last 25%.
I can't really help you with your CDMA question other than to say that I've had issues on Verizon that I didn't really give much consideration to until this post. If it is true that the device only operates on the LTE portion of the network then that's probably why I had to go to Verizon and have them fix texting for me and probably why I can't dial emergency numbers. There may be other things I'm missing because they aren't as obvious. My entire experience on this device hasn't felt as rich or full as when I was using the HTC M10. I've never experienced that before moving from device to device. I've got probably another 7 to 10 months before I'm aching for a new device and truthfully I don't know what I'm going to do when that time comes.
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ok，thanks.I have not used htc 10, I have used htc g11, htc butterfly, htc one m7 m8 and u11. I hope this year htc can get 5g new mobile phone. Since my u11 was stolen, I am using Meizu who my mother has eliminated.