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Official Captivate Froyo

After rooting and updating to leaked froyo
Will I be able to upgrade to the official update?
Is there a chance I wont be able to?
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You can just one click odin back to stock and you will be able to. I believe there is no way you wont be able to unless you brick your phone of course

Not trying to scare u but I don't think u would be able to. I heard once u root and ur files have been messed with, u will no longer be able to ever update. Not even if u flash back to stock. This happened to me with the update they recently released.I researched why my phone didn't update and came across that info. But I could be wrong and why would u want to go to stock?
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Above info is incorrect. If your rooted you can still update. If you kernel hoped you need to flash back to stock to do the OTA update. I have tested this.

So its safe just so as long as I flash with Odin and don't brick my phone right
Thanks for helping me out with this
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echonc said:
Above info is incorrect. If your rooted you can still update. If you kernel hoped you need to flash back to stock to do the OTA update. I have tested this.
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Tested with which update? Froyo hasn't been released by ATT yet, has it? Sooo Sick of Waiting

Barsky said:
Tested with which update? Froyo hasn't been released by ATT yet, has it? Sooo Sick of Waiting
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the JH7 update for 2.1 eclair......the ONLY update that has come through OTA from ATT

just a thought, why would you want the official update as it will be made so much better after the guys here fix it. then just odin flash it... just my thoughts
happy captivate user cog 7.0 froyo.....
i need to go up to 9.1 but im happy as it is.

I was wondering the same thing. I have a rooted captivate running froyo and I wanted to install the update that was suppossed to fix gps. I erased the root and flashed back to stock eclair and I still couldnt install the update. I spent hours on the phone with att and samsung and did a bunch of factory resets and still no luck. Samsung said that the only thing left to try would be to send it in to them so they could flash their stock os back on it. But then I would be without a phone for a week and they wont give me a loner. Its really frustrating. The only reason I would go back to stock is if they fix the gps issue. That is the only major complaint that I have with this phone.
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So u can't go back to official 2.1 and update to froyo (when released) if rooted
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weirdboy09 said:
So u can't go back to official 2.1 and update to froyo (when released) if rooted
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nobody knows. stop speculating

For the the last JH7 update, I flashed back to JF6 stock via odin one click, then pulled the OTA update via Kies Mini. Since it worked last time, why won't it work again? Once you flash back with Odin 1 click, Kies Mini sees the phone as fresh out of AT&T store. And the phone in such a condition is most certainly able to be updated straight to Froyo.

I just flashed back to 2.1 through Odin and did the update through Settings/Software Update. No issues.

Alright sounds great
I think I might root and get a new rom today
Any suggestions?
Thanks for the help
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I was just reading about att updating issues. Came across something that worked for me. After that gps update I wasn't able to check att for updates anymore. So all I did was go to manage apps, filter to all, go to divice manager, delete data, reboot, and I was able to check for updates again. But fyi, I'm not rooted, so not sure if this will help or not.
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You will be able to update, however it will most likely have to be done with Kies.
My phone was rooted and like you all would not allow the OTA update when trying to do so through the phone.
I updated kies itself hooked my phone up and installed the latest update. When doing so though, it removed my root access, reinstalled the bloatware, and undid any changes I did that required rooting (like the circle battery mod).
So updates can be had if you are rooted, it just may always require using the POS program Kies.

noone really knows about ota but probably. kies and odin should still work regardless.
the jf7 ota was not a full rom, it was a small file that contained scripts that replaced modules if i understand it right. froyo probably will need a full install and is more likely to work but is not garenteed by anyone, its all speculation. it is not clear that the last update failing was the intentions of samsung or att, they are not intentionally denying people the update they are just not going to go out of there way to support modded phones when they can save space time and data doing another way. people have reported that kies works and designgears is very fast to release odin versions when new updates are available.

Ahhh the GPS. I was in the car with my family last night and me and my brother have Captivates and I had to ask my mother for her 8GB 3GS so we could GPS our way. So sad. I absolutely love my Captivate to death but it Froyo doesn't fix the GPS I will, 100%, never buy another Samsung phone again. I don't care how awesome they are.
I'm going to wait for the update to be released and for a cooker here to make an awesome rom with the official release.

if you have a rooted and flashed phone why would you want the official update just get it from here, I don't see why this is a cause for concern
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screwyluie said:
if you have a rooted and flashed phone why would you want the official update just get it from here, I don't see why this is a cause for concern
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Because the leaked froyo has issues still.
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Custom rom vs att official update

I installed a 2.2 custom rom, now att sent me a txt that there is an update for my phone, should I update?, will it brick my phone?

There's 300000000 other threads about this. For the majority if your not completely stock att will tell you to update
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kukulkan666 said:
I installed a 2.2 custom rom, now att sent me a txt that there is an update for my phone, should I update?, will it brick my phone?
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Do not run an update while on a 2.2 custom rom. It is most likely not the froyo update and rather a 2.1 tweak. If you tried it probably would not take, if it did it would probably screw up your phone. If you really want to try the update I would do a odin flash back to stock. If you do not know what odin is you can find it in the development section
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ok,thanks ....i wont update since I dont have a data plan , and I know ATT will screw me over.....btw custom 2.2 running great

Either it:
-Won't work, or
-It will work
I'll let you decide which is worse.

MikeyMike01 said:
Either it:
-Won't work, or
-It will work
I'll let you decide which is worse.
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Words of wisdom
I wouldn't update if I were you since it isn't 2.2 yet. You'll end up just installing a custom ROM again.

[Q] ODIN and ATT update - what is this?

I was using a custom ROM. In order to upgrade the rom, I used one click odin to restore stock. Then I did a master clear and checked the version of the kernel SW:
Firmware 2.1 -update1
Baseband I897UCJF6
Kernel 2.6.29 [email protected] #2
Build ECLAIR
This was all expected. Then I checked software update. To my suprise, it said there is a software update. I decided to get the update. It downloaded it, and in the process of installation, it failed exactly at 50% mark. I tried it several time, all with the same result.
Now, the question is what is this update? and why is it failing?
Can someone check their never altered stock captivate if the SW/firmvare/kernel version I listed above match with your captivate.
Thanks

It's been said that once you flash using Odin, even though its Samsung stock, that it will not, or not likely to, update properly.

Its jh7 update
will fail everytime
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Did you try an OTA update or did you try to update with Kies Mini? The update that AT&T is sending you is JH7.

If u want jh7 u can still install via kies or cwm zip
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I tried an ATT update. Previous post mentioned that it will always fail. It seems Odin is not returning the phone to full stock state. Not that I plan to go to stock ATT att the moment, but is it even possible now to go to stock ATT, with enabled updates?
Or using custom roms is a one way street, that we will never be able to go to full stock with succesful updates from ATT?

2.2 will be via kies and I suspect any further updatea will be as well
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ulupinar said:
I tried an ATT update. Previous post mentioned that it will always fail. It seems Odin is not returning the phone to full stock state. Not that I plan to go to stock ATT att the moment, but is it even possible now to go to stock ATT, with enabled updates?
Or using custom roms is a one way street, that we will never be able to go to full stock with succesful updates from ATT?
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Just use Kies Mini...

Kies-Mini
Download Kies-Mini
Install it on your computer
Start Kies-Mini
Make sure your phone is set for USB-Debugging
Hook USB cable to phone
Hook other end to your computer
Kies should see your phone
If Kies can see your phone, UPDATE it to JH7
After Kies is finished updating your phone will be @ True Stock
If that dosen't work get OTA JH7

bames said:
2.2 will be via kies and I suspect any further updatea will be as well
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Hahaha any further updates. Made me laugh
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Went to Samsung to downlod Kies-Mini but it wants to know my model code. How can I tell what that is? Went here: http://www.samsung.com/us/support/downloads/SGH-I897ZKAATT

your link shows model code....you will also see it in my signature
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ulupinar said:
I tried an ATT update. Previous post mentioned that it will always fail. It seems Odin is not returning the phone to full stock state. Not that I plan to go to stock ATT att the moment, but is it even possible now to go to stock ATT, with enabled updates?
Or using custom roms is a one way street, that we will never be able to go to full stock with succesful updates from ATT?
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It is full stock but those OTA updates only work if its being pushed any new captivates will already have the jh7 so att isn't pushing it anymore. Your phone knows its out of date but it can't get the full package anymore
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It's jh7, I don't think 2.2 will be out soon. I was at at&t device support center today. I talked to one of the reps about most problematic phone they have met and we talked about captivate a little bit. He said google released it really early and samsung finished their revise really quick, its just att can't take such a huge amount of data transfer at one time. And att is building up 4g network, less attention will be put on 3g than before.
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You should just stick with custom rom's. The updates you are trying to get are already on 90% of the custom roms and the custom roms have alot more advantages with barley any disadvantages.

The only reason I look forward to the 2.2 release is so we have captivate specific source for froyo I will never again have a stock captivate even if they give us gingerbread next week
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Hydro360 said:
It is full stock but those OTA updates only work if its being pushed any new captivates will already have the jh7 so att isn't pushing it anymore. Your phone knows its out of date but it can't get the full package anymore
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All three of ours failed the first time they pushed it and my brother just got a captivate from best buy a few weeks ago with jf6 on it so at that time there were still some old builds floating around.

bames said:
your link shows model code....you will also see it in my signature
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So then what is differenct between: SGH-I897ZKMATT,SGH-I897ZKZATT and SGH-I897ZKAATT?

[Q] T Mobile update 11/21/2011

My daughter's phone this morning had an update from T-Mobile. I told her not to install it, as it may revoke root.
She clicked on it (kids....), but luckily it says it's been post-poned until the 22nd (tomorrow)..
Just wondering if anyone has any idea what it is?
I know any OTA updates may potentiall revoke root, but just wondering if anyone else has gotten this.

The worst it could do is overwrite your root, but it wouldn't take that ability away, you would just need to re-root it after the update was completed. I heard some rumors that KJ2 was being pushed out as an official update, but I'm not entirely sure.

It's 100% true or i wouldn't have posted it. I got the update via Kies. It's coming OTA soon.
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Whats KJ2?
Also im running Gingerbreak on it, if it revokes the root, would the thing even boot up?

I got it today. No obvious changes but it does seem to work a bit smoother.

Gingerbreak? you mean GingerClone? Gingerbreak is the rooting method for Gingerbread (2.3).
KD1 was the original stock firmware, then they pushed KG2 as an update, and the latest update is KJ2, which includes some bugfixes and not many other changes.

You can still root after the update. KJ2 is seriously worth it. The phone runs so smoothly now. Although, I still think this is TM's way of staving us off until they release GB. XD

sduvick said:
Gingerbreak? you mean GingerClone? Gingerbreak is the rooting method for Gingerbread (2.3).
KD1 was the original stock firmware, then they pushed KG2 as an update, and the latest update is KJ2, which includes some bugfixes and not many other changes.
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Sorry, you are correct
So it's safe to install the update? I'll tell her to do it as soon as I get home.

is anything else different? I generally try to let others test the waters first, since the last "update" merely removed a useful shortcut function and added Google Books as bloat.

Falkner09 said:
is anything else different? I generally try to let others test the waters first, since the last "update" merely removed a useful shortcut function and added Google Books as bloat.
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You wont notice anything different except maybe better performance. You should do it.
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I went ahead and grabbed the update off Kies. So far, it looks like the persistent memory leak issues have been addressed in the Touchwiz/Zipwip software package. Also, my battery performance has returned to what I expected with KD1 (given my device's configuration).
I haven't encountered any drawbacks to upgrading. No reason to stick with KG2 or KD1 at this point--unless you fell in love with a custom...

RazoE said:
Whats KJ2?
Also im running Gingerbreak on it, if it revokes the root, would the thing even boot up?
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I am running gingerclone as well, i got the notice for the update but postponed it, I didn't know if it would be safe to run since i wasn't on a stock rom, I got tired of seeing the update icon so i let it run, it failed.
The phone rebooted and I have not seen the update notice again.

I have TouchMIUIwiz v3 and I also ran the update after getting sick of the constant reminder and icon. It failed and disappears for a few days then come back. I've repeated the process a few times now.

Update installed fine for her and nothing is too different. Safe to go.

It won't work unless your on a completly stock and unmodified rom.
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dw9906 said:
It won't work unless your on a completly stock and unmodified rom.
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Not true. I'm running clean fusion v3 and. I was able to update my phone sad thing is I had to wait like a month to get the update when it was realesed way before I got my phone.... shm t-mobile
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Shystep said:
Not true. I'm running clean fusion v3 and. I was able to update my phone sad thing is I had to wait like a month to get the update when it was realesed way before I got my phone.... shm t-mobile
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For ota it is. Not kies
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Ohh sorry butt t
Its perrty messed up my phone doesn't let me know when there's an update I have to look on google if one was realesed
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dw9906 said:
It won't work unless your on a completly stock and unmodified rom.
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If only that would make it stop bothering me to run an update that will constantly fail every few days.

So no one knows how for rooted roms to turn off the update service?
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Phone Update...but not ICS

There is a minor update coming....sucks it isn't ICS, but they tend to push out these updates just before a major upgrade...so fingers crossed.
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4182
Whether or not it is worth installing, though....and it does look like your phone has to be unrooted.

rbeier1221 said:
There is a minor update coming....sucks it isn't ICS, but they tend to push out these updates just before a major upgrade...so fingers crossed.
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4182
Whether or not it is worth installing, though....and it does look like your phone has to be unrooted.
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for sure if anyone is going to update to this go back to stock just so you don't brick
already looking into it see if i can base next dknight with this update

rbeier1221 said:
There is a minor update coming....sucks it isn't ICS, but they tend to push out these updates just before a major upgrade...so fingers crossed.
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4182
Whether or not it is worth installing, though....and it does look like your phone has to be unrooted.
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I've kept my phone on its stock ROM and unrooted, and it looks like my waiting finally paid off! Hoping you're right, and that this is a pre-req for the upcoming ICS release. Maybe this will coincide with the T-mo release of the Blaze Q (QWERTY version of the Blaze 4G)?
Also, has this update gone live yet? I'm using WiFi at the moment and so far I get a message saying there isn't an update available from the server

Can someone confirm if I have to be unrooted?
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I put my sim into the blaze and nothing no update ota yet lol if anyone gets it before midnight hit me up on a PM
if not then tomorrow it goes live on mini kies and i'll just download it there

This is why I always flash recovery first and run a backup of stock prior to rooting. I will backup where I am now and check to see if there's anything to this update.
This also kind of confirms that ICS will be coming soon as stated... kinda exciting!
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I just tried to get the update and didn't get it rooted... restoring now to stock ( no root) and will post results.
Didn't get the update stock either. ...not that I expected this to actually come ota...
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erikmm said:
I put my sim into the blaze and nothing no update ota yet lol if anyone gets it before midnight hit me up on a PM
if not then tomorrow it goes live on mini kies and i'll just download it there
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Haven't seen it yet, but if I do I will hit you up.

Just wanted to point out, this made it to tmonews:
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/07/sams...pdate-prepares-device-for-ice-cream-sandwich/
"We saw something very similar for the Galaxy S II as a small maintenance update arrived a few weeks before Ice Cream Sandwich. We hope that same scenario plays out here as well. Stay tuned for Ice Cream Sandwich Blaze 4G owners."

Huh... How do I revert to Stock unrooted? Also, do I HAVE to update to install future custom ICS ROMs? I'd rather just wait until the source code is released ans I'll just install a Stock custom ROM. I need clarification. Because I don't feel like reverting to Touchwiz -_-
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Bulletblitz27 said:
Huh... How do I revert to Stock unrooted? Also, do I HAVE to update to install future custom ICS ROMs? I'd rather just wait until the source code is released ans I'll just install a Stock custom ROM. I need clarification. Because I don't feel like reverting to Touchwiz -_-
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just because u said u don't like touchwiz made me answer this more
to return to unrooted stock you need to use the stock LB7 tar file and the blaze.pit file and Odin back to stock
I beliieve k0nane made a good guide for that on dev forum.
And you can always wait as soon as Kies updates tomorrow with LF4 i'll download and decrypt it and use it for base no my build 5 for dknight which is going to add some awesome stuff on top of the already awesome stuff

erikmm said:
just because u said u don't like touchwiz made me answer this more
to return to unrooted stock you need to use the stock LB7 tar file and the blaze.pit file and Odin back to stock
I beliieve k0nane made a good guide for that on dev forum.
And you can always wait as soon as Kies updates tomorrow with LF4 i'll download and decrypt it and use it for base no my build 5 for dknight which is going to add some awesome stuff on top of the already awesome stuff
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Yay! So I'll skip the 'back to Root' phase for that dumb small update and just wait until you release your updated one. I'll just have to flash it which is easier lol.
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Just received software update notification around 11pm MT on 07-16-2012. Unfortunately, it isn't ICS update. Keep waiting.
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tthaz777 said:
Just received software update notification around 11pm MT on 07-16-2012. Unfortunately, it isn't ICS update. Keep waiting.
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damn i haven't gotten it here in pacific time time to get a hold of sammys servers
this just made my night time to codeeeeeee lol
EDIT: Downloading!!!!!!!!!!!!
EDIT#2: If I'm downloading from their servers then it should be available in kies if anyone can check?

Hey I'm here in Pacific time as well. But when i check for software update it days none. am i supposed to be waiting?
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LiveFaster said:
Hey I'm here in Pacific time as well. But when i check for software update it days none. am i supposed to be waiting?
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do it thru kies and im already building my rom

Do you know what the update does yet?
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The very first post links to the t-mobile site, which contains this information:
Version
Android version 2.3.6 / Software version T769UVLF4
Updated 07/16/2012
OTA and Manual update
Improvements
E911 issue over Wi-Fi resolved
Echo issue when on Hearing Aid Compatibility (HAC) call
Proximity Sensor improved
Prerequisites
OTA and Manual (via Samsung Kies) update
Android version 2.3.6 / Software version T769UVLB7
Device software is not rooted
50% battery life
Data connection
20 MB available memory (File size of update is 15.7 MB)
I tried to apply the update, not knowing what it was since it popped to my phone over night. It failed of course, since my phone is rooted, but I'm keeping root for now.

erikmm said:
damn i haven't gotten it here in pacific time time to get a hold of sammys servers
this just made my night time to codeeeeeee lol
EDIT: Downloading!!!!!!!!!!!!
EDIT#2: If I'm downloading from their servers then it should be available in kies if anyone can check?
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Update is live through Kies as of 9am cst. You lose CWM through the update and cannot be rooted.
So will the current CWM and rooting methods be ok to be used again? I hate bloat

How long did it take for the update to work via Kies?
I started the firmware download, and once the download finished Kies kind of.. froze. Didn't see any activity in task manager, phone didn't show anything besides the normal home screen. Disconnected the phone with no ill effects fortunately.
Probably because I'm running Windows 8 release preview.. will try on my other Windows 7 rig