Custom rom vs att official update - Captivate General

I installed a 2.2 custom rom, now att sent me a txt that there is an update for my phone, should I update?, will it brick my phone?

There's 300000000 other threads about this. For the majority if your not completely stock att will tell you to update
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kukulkan666 said:
I installed a 2.2 custom rom, now att sent me a txt that there is an update for my phone, should I update?, will it brick my phone?
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Do not run an update while on a 2.2 custom rom. It is most likely not the froyo update and rather a 2.1 tweak. If you tried it probably would not take, if it did it would probably screw up your phone. If you really want to try the update I would do a odin flash back to stock. If you do not know what odin is you can find it in the development section
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ok,thanks ....i wont update since I dont have a data plan , and I know ATT will screw me over.....btw custom 2.2 running great

Either it:
-Won't work, or
-It will work
I'll let you decide which is worse.

MikeyMike01 said:
Either it:
-Won't work, or
-It will work
I'll let you decide which is worse.
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Words of wisdom
I wouldn't update if I were you since it isn't 2.2 yet. You'll end up just installing a custom ROM again.

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Official Captivate Froyo

After rooting and updating to leaked froyo
Will I be able to upgrade to the official update?
Is there a chance I wont be able to?
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You can just one click odin back to stock and you will be able to. I believe there is no way you wont be able to unless you brick your phone of course
Not trying to scare u but I don't think u would be able to. I heard once u root and ur files have been messed with, u will no longer be able to ever update. Not even if u flash back to stock. This happened to me with the update they recently released.I researched why my phone didn't update and came across that info. But I could be wrong and why would u want to go to stock?
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Above info is incorrect. If your rooted you can still update. If you kernel hoped you need to flash back to stock to do the OTA update. I have tested this.
So its safe just so as long as I flash with Odin and don't brick my phone right
Thanks for helping me out with this
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echonc said:
Above info is incorrect. If your rooted you can still update. If you kernel hoped you need to flash back to stock to do the OTA update. I have tested this.
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Tested with which update? Froyo hasn't been released by ATT yet, has it? Sooo Sick of Waiting
Barsky said:
Tested with which update? Froyo hasn't been released by ATT yet, has it? Sooo Sick of Waiting
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the JH7 update for 2.1 eclair......the ONLY update that has come through OTA from ATT
just a thought, why would you want the official update as it will be made so much better after the guys here fix it. then just odin flash it... just my thoughts
happy captivate user cog 7.0 froyo.....
i need to go up to 9.1 but im happy as it is.
I was wondering the same thing. I have a rooted captivate running froyo and I wanted to install the update that was suppossed to fix gps. I erased the root and flashed back to stock eclair and I still couldnt install the update. I spent hours on the phone with att and samsung and did a bunch of factory resets and still no luck. Samsung said that the only thing left to try would be to send it in to them so they could flash their stock os back on it. But then I would be without a phone for a week and they wont give me a loner. Its really frustrating. The only reason I would go back to stock is if they fix the gps issue. That is the only major complaint that I have with this phone.
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So u can't go back to official 2.1 and update to froyo (when released) if rooted
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weirdboy09 said:
So u can't go back to official 2.1 and update to froyo (when released) if rooted
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nobody knows. stop speculating
For the the last JH7 update, I flashed back to JF6 stock via odin one click, then pulled the OTA update via Kies Mini. Since it worked last time, why won't it work again? Once you flash back with Odin 1 click, Kies Mini sees the phone as fresh out of AT&T store. And the phone in such a condition is most certainly able to be updated straight to Froyo.
I just flashed back to 2.1 through Odin and did the update through Settings/Software Update. No issues.
Alright sounds great
I think I might root and get a new rom today
Any suggestions?
Thanks for the help
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I was just reading about att updating issues. Came across something that worked for me. After that gps update I wasn't able to check att for updates anymore. So all I did was go to manage apps, filter to all, go to divice manager, delete data, reboot, and I was able to check for updates again. But fyi, I'm not rooted, so not sure if this will help or not.
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You will be able to update, however it will most likely have to be done with Kies.
My phone was rooted and like you all would not allow the OTA update when trying to do so through the phone.
I updated kies itself hooked my phone up and installed the latest update. When doing so though, it removed my root access, reinstalled the bloatware, and undid any changes I did that required rooting (like the circle battery mod).
So updates can be had if you are rooted, it just may always require using the POS program Kies.
noone really knows about ota but probably. kies and odin should still work regardless.
the jf7 ota was not a full rom, it was a small file that contained scripts that replaced modules if i understand it right. froyo probably will need a full install and is more likely to work but is not garenteed by anyone, its all speculation. it is not clear that the last update failing was the intentions of samsung or att, they are not intentionally denying people the update they are just not going to go out of there way to support modded phones when they can save space time and data doing another way. people have reported that kies works and designgears is very fast to release odin versions when new updates are available.
Ahhh the GPS. I was in the car with my family last night and me and my brother have Captivates and I had to ask my mother for her 8GB 3GS so we could GPS our way. So sad. I absolutely love my Captivate to death but it Froyo doesn't fix the GPS I will, 100%, never buy another Samsung phone again. I don't care how awesome they are.
I'm going to wait for the update to be released and for a cooker here to make an awesome rom with the official release.
if you have a rooted and flashed phone why would you want the official update just get it from here, I don't see why this is a cause for concern
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screwyluie said:
if you have a rooted and flashed phone why would you want the official update just get it from here, I don't see why this is a cause for concern
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Because the leaked froyo has issues still.
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[UPDATE 11.22]2.32.651.2-rootable!! + info-

2.32.651.2 is available. I got a new hero today and updated OTA to the new software. then I applied this root method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804296
ive been deleting much bloat. the update has a new baseband, new software, new PRI. kernel is the same. im sure theres more that i dont know about.
This update makes it feel fast and responsive. To me-a little smoother than the last .7 official.
sprint zone is in here...SprintZone.apk
I havent flashed clockwork yet but i intend to...right now
tailsthecat3 said:
2.32.651.2 is available. Im getting a new hero today and was wondering if this version has been rooted or if anyone has it extracted for manual application?
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sorry i can't tell you one or the other; however, i was curious why you're jumping on a hero instead of something like the lg optimus s which is cheaper and has gotten great reviews?
one obvious negative of picking another device is that the community isn't quite there for it yet, but... i know it is rooted at least.
also, if it's a matter of price, two of my brothers ordered their evo's from this site:
http://ordersprint.cellbenefits.com/ind/sprint/devices.html
the prices seem unreal, to be honest. but it might be worth looking at what they have available. much cheaper than direct from sprint and the lg ends up being $50 in your pocket after contract, rebates, and/or giftcards.
anyway, just a thought. i do love my hero, but this late in the game, i'd be looking to snag a slightly more modern device. or, maybe you could find one to buy from people in the forum. i know a lot of people have been upgrading recently (i'm up in a week or so, but plan to wait until after ces before i buy a new phone).
sorry for the off-topic question!
/rant
they replaced my hero with a new one
UPDATE
Updated op
Ah.. I see.
Well, thanks for the update. Good to know that root is still available!
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i flashed nfinite's .7 update 3.1 odex version after all that. device retained the baseband and pri versions. if i try the ota update to the new software, i get the triangle exclamation point. when i press menu, im at clockworks menu. id like to have the latest software but a new baseband is good too.
Any way to get the update other than OTA?
I'd like to have the new PRL and Baseband as I run CM.
Thanks.
Gelladuga69 said:
Any way to get the update other than OTA?
I'd like to have the new PRL and Baseband as I run CM.
Thanks.
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prolly not until someone extracts it. i dont know much about it.
I knew about 2.31.651.7 OTA, but didn't realize there was another. I am still running .6 with an odexed basically stock ROM (see sig).
So, really better performance, or just a bit? Any difference on mflops, or other specifics?
mtnchkn said:
I knew about 2.31.651.7 OTA, but didn't realize there was another. I am still running .6 with an odexed basically stock ROM (see sig).
So, really better performance, or just a bit? Any difference on mflops, or other specifics?
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.7 is the best stock update so far and this new update seems a little more responsive.
tailsthecat3 said:
2.32.651.2 is available. I got a new hero today and updated OTA to the new software. then I applied this root method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804296
ive been deleting much bloat. the update has a new baseband, new software, new PRI. kernel is the same. im sure theres more that i dont know about.
This update makes it feel fast and responsive. To me-a little smoother than the last .7 official.
sprint zone is in here...SprintZone.apk
I havent flashed clockwork yet but i intend to...right now
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I have finished rooting the new update and I can say that the SuperOneClick method works as well. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
Rom Manager went on fine too.
Edit: My bad, I lost root after booting. I will try your root method. Sorry
Getting the S-off again is now trickier due to the new radio baseband.
why not pull the update off your phone change the script a little sign and flash through recovery
so the new update is worth keeping? I was planning on rooting my device to get the wifi sharing option that 2.2 has but i wasn't thinking and let the new ota update go through the other day. the only difference i've seen is more lag and more battery usage. opinions?
The only way to get WiFi sharing on the hero is through rooting the hero does have a native usb tether but u have to pay for any data u use on it
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Super One Click
Super one click worked to root the phone after the update to HTC Hero (Sprint) Maintenance Release 2.32.651.2.
Got the download on this site, just search for the super one click method.
Thanks XDA.
So lets see if I get this right;
I'm using cm6 exblue. If I want the new baseland and prl I have to go back to stock sense unroot apply the update and then root again with super1click and flash my cm6 backup. Is that how it goes?
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coki80 said:
So lets see if I get this right;
I'm using cm6 exblue. If I want the new baseland and prl I have to go back to stock sense unroot apply the update and then root again with super1click and flash my cm6 backup. Is that how it goes?
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no. you can flash the radio through either s-off bootloader or recovery, and there isn't a new prl. 60671 is still the latest.
@hotaru do I flash it as I would a rom? Thnx.
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coki80 said:
@hotaru do I flash it as I would a rom? Thnx.
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yes... as long as you're not using firerat's custom mtd partitions thing.
No I'm not using it. Thanx for the reply.
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[Q] ODIN and ATT update - what is this?

I was using a custom ROM. In order to upgrade the rom, I used one click odin to restore stock. Then I did a master clear and checked the version of the kernel SW:
Firmware 2.1 -update1
Baseband I897UCJF6
Kernel 2.6.29 [email protected] #2
Build ECLAIR
This was all expected. Then I checked software update. To my suprise, it said there is a software update. I decided to get the update. It downloaded it, and in the process of installation, it failed exactly at 50% mark. I tried it several time, all with the same result.
Now, the question is what is this update? and why is it failing?
Can someone check their never altered stock captivate if the SW/firmvare/kernel version I listed above match with your captivate.
Thanks
It's been said that once you flash using Odin, even though its Samsung stock, that it will not, or not likely to, update properly.
Its jh7 update
will fail everytime
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Did you try an OTA update or did you try to update with Kies Mini? The update that AT&T is sending you is JH7.
If u want jh7 u can still install via kies or cwm zip
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I tried an ATT update. Previous post mentioned that it will always fail. It seems Odin is not returning the phone to full stock state. Not that I plan to go to stock ATT att the moment, but is it even possible now to go to stock ATT, with enabled updates?
Or using custom roms is a one way street, that we will never be able to go to full stock with succesful updates from ATT?
2.2 will be via kies and I suspect any further updatea will be as well
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ulupinar said:
I tried an ATT update. Previous post mentioned that it will always fail. It seems Odin is not returning the phone to full stock state. Not that I plan to go to stock ATT att the moment, but is it even possible now to go to stock ATT, with enabled updates?
Or using custom roms is a one way street, that we will never be able to go to full stock with succesful updates from ATT?
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Just use Kies Mini...
Kies-Mini
Download Kies-Mini
Install it on your computer
Start Kies-Mini
Make sure your phone is set for USB-Debugging
Hook USB cable to phone
Hook other end to your computer
Kies should see your phone
If Kies can see your phone, UPDATE it to JH7
After Kies is finished updating your phone will be @ True Stock
If that dosen't work get OTA JH7
bames said:
2.2 will be via kies and I suspect any further updatea will be as well
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Hahaha any further updates. Made me laugh
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Went to Samsung to downlod Kies-Mini but it wants to know my model code. How can I tell what that is? Went here: http://www.samsung.com/us/support/downloads/SGH-I897ZKAATT
your link shows model code....you will also see it in my signature
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ulupinar said:
I tried an ATT update. Previous post mentioned that it will always fail. It seems Odin is not returning the phone to full stock state. Not that I plan to go to stock ATT att the moment, but is it even possible now to go to stock ATT, with enabled updates?
Or using custom roms is a one way street, that we will never be able to go to full stock with succesful updates from ATT?
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It is full stock but those OTA updates only work if its being pushed any new captivates will already have the jh7 so att isn't pushing it anymore. Your phone knows its out of date but it can't get the full package anymore
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It's jh7, I don't think 2.2 will be out soon. I was at at&t device support center today. I talked to one of the reps about most problematic phone they have met and we talked about captivate a little bit. He said google released it really early and samsung finished their revise really quick, its just att can't take such a huge amount of data transfer at one time. And att is building up 4g network, less attention will be put on 3g than before.
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You should just stick with custom rom's. The updates you are trying to get are already on 90% of the custom roms and the custom roms have alot more advantages with barley any disadvantages.
The only reason I look forward to the 2.2 release is so we have captivate specific source for froyo I will never again have a stock captivate even if they give us gingerbread next week
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Hydro360 said:
It is full stock but those OTA updates only work if its being pushed any new captivates will already have the jh7 so att isn't pushing it anymore. Your phone knows its out of date but it can't get the full package anymore
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All three of ours failed the first time they pushed it and my brother just got a captivate from best buy a few weeks ago with jf6 on it so at that time there were still some old builds floating around.
bames said:
your link shows model code....you will also see it in my signature
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So then what is differenct between: SGH-I897ZKMATT,SGH-I897ZKZATT and SGH-I897ZKAATT?

Update

I finally rooted like 2 days ago & disabled att market blocks, will I have to unroot & enable before I do the upgrade tomorrow? Please tell me I don't have to.
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Yup
Affirmative
So is that a yes I have to unroot or yes I'll be fine tomorrow?
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coooooooooool finally.
unrooting is prob necessary. just flash back to stock and the update should be available.
Should I undo the market blocker too & remove the blocked apps?
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I was wondering the same lol. I rooted and flashed to Firefly a few weeks ago. I'm tempted to try this just for fun, then prob flash later to the newer Firefly... So just to confirm, using Odin to go back to stock should allow us to get the bloated AT&T update if we wish?
Should I try an ota update before I unroot or will that get me fired?
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I just flashed cognition 4 this morning, and unless i hear crazy good things about att froyo, i'm not going back.
It took them this long to get it to us....its pitiful.
Just putting it out there...here's the tweet:
GalaxySsupport: Samsung and AT&T are pleased to confirm to #Captivate users that the Android 2.2 upgrade will be available tomorrow (2/24)
ZephCr said:
Should I try an ota update before I unroot or will that get me fired?
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You WILL need to unroot before you can OTA. We ran into this issue when JH7 came out. If you have root, no OTA. It's even in question if you have flashed a custom ROM/revert back to JF6 stock, whether or not you can OTA. Personally I was never successful at get OTA to update JH7.
nater-tater said:
I was wondering the same lol. I rooted and flashed to Firefly a few weeks ago. I'm tempted to try this just for fun, then prob flash later to the newer Firefly... So just to confirm, using Odin to go back to stock should allow us to get the bloated AT&T update if we wish?
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Just out of curiosity, why would you even want to go back to stock, after running FireFly?
When the OTA for JH7 came out I was not able to update after I flashed back to JF6 using Odin. It would error out
I had no problem with the jh7 ova update so long ago. I haven't flashed anything yet, just rooted. I checked for updates while rooted & it just said no updates yet. I won't ruin anything if I just try it will I?
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kangi26 said:
Just out of curiosity, why would you even want to go back to stock, after running FireFly?
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For fun maybe lol Just curious really. I have loved Firefly, so may just say screw it and just flash to the new one.
kangi26 said:
Just out of curiosity, why would you even want to go back to stock, after running FireFly?
When the OTA for JH7 came out I was not able to update after I flashed back to JF6 using Odin. It would error out
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I flashed leaked UCKB1 (w/lag fix and a few other tools) because I wanted Media Hub to work (I travel frequently and like being able to easily DL and watch movies on my phone). The Media Hub .apk does not seem to work on any of the other ROMs. It appears Samsung included some sort of DRM support in this ROM that allows Media Hub to function properly.
I'll happily flash something elese when the devs release a compelling ROM based on UCKB1.
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I flashed leaked UCKB1 (w/lag fix and a few other tools) because I wanted Media Hub to work (I travel frequently and like being able to easily DL and watch movies on my phone). The Media Hub .apk does not seem to work on any of the other ROMs. It appears Samsung included some sort of DRM support in this ROM that allows Media Hub to function properly.
I'll happily flash something elese when the devs release a compelling ROM based on UCKB1.
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Media Hub works fine on Andromeda 1.2.
I'm hoping for the usb audio they promised back when I bought my desk dock. Oh yeah, and the voice dialing they promised when I bought the phone. And of course, the support for the audience chip. I'm sure these will all make their want into the custom roms once they chefs get their hands on the source.

[Q] Plain G2x AOSP rom?????

Hi, I am getting my G2x next Friday and of coarse, gonna be rooting it as soon as I have it. But I want a plain 2.3.3 OTA rooted rom. No fancy names, EagleBlood, WeaponX and so on.. where or which one can I get? That has everything stock so I can remove and play with. Thank you.
Try the xboarder pretty much stock and debloated
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Try the xboarder pretty much stock and debloated
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also, forgot to mention no mixure of cm7 and aosp.. just plain, you know? as i dont like cm, its always buggy..
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Use this. It's the best stock ROM we have. Super quick, super awesome. Debloated and tweaked for performance.
is this the official ota, or just a leak before ota happend? latest but rooted? just want to get my answers before my phone gets here and because i dont like all that much tweaking of a rom or adding stuff to it just like i noticed with the xboarder link he added that host file adblock, can that just be uninstalled and be back to normal?
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or you can try faux's rom and kernel it works well.
noodles2224 said:
is this the official ota, or just a leak before ota happend? latest but rooted? just want to get my answers before my phone gets here and because i dont like all that much tweaking of a rom or adding stuff to it just like i noticed with the xboarder link he added that host file adblock, can that just be uninstalled and be back to normal?
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There is no adblock. It's an optional add on. It is the official OTA. He just slimmed it down and made it faster. No UI tweaks, or graphical tweaks of any kind
Yeah I was using xboarders tweeked version and it was great Super stable and great battery life no real issues. The completly stock one is good to but the tweek is better. It was my favorite till I installed eaglesblood 1.0.8 that is the best ROM ever made great everything it has a few issues but they are not specific to that ROM no one has figured out A2DP yet to my knowledge. I'm sure they will soon though. I think everyone should use eaglesblood.
Here. This is the OTA 2.3.3 update. It is rooted but that's pretty much it. Still has all the T-Mobile blaotware, etc. Flash it via clockworkmod recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179748
phburks said:
Here. This is the OTA 2.3.3 update. It is rooted but that's pretty much it. Still has all the T-Mobile blaotware, etc. Flash it via clockworkmod recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179748
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ok, perfect. thank you. just one thing, its the latest of any release for this phone right? because the G2 had 2 leaked version then i think an official
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noodles2224 said:
ok, perfect. thank you. just one thing, its the latest of any release for this phone right? because the G2 had 2 leaked version then i think an official
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Yea this is the same as the OTA from July/August, its just already rooted. Its not the leaked version from back in April or May or whenever that was. Right now this is the easiest (maybe the only?) way to have rooted 2.3.3 stock rom. You have to use nvflash (check development section for easy-to-use nvflash tool) to flash clockworkmod recovery and then you can boot into recovery and flash this zip.
And note that this zip will not touch your baseband.
Here's a link to the nvflash recovery flasher
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
perfect, everything i am gonna need.. thank you again
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Check about phone in the settings when you get it, if your baseband is the march one then you need to run the lg update tool to get the new one.
No other way to get it, and it's a huge improvement.
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LordButtersI said:
Check about phone in the settings when you get it, if your baseband is the march one then you need to run the lg update tool to get the new one.
No other way to get it, and it's a huge improvement.
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well yeah but if i do that itll be an update without root right?? because the 2.3.3 cant be rooted right?
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noodles2224 said:
well yeah but if i do that itll be an update without root right?? because the 2.3.3 cant be rooted right?
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If you flash a rooted room via clockwork it'll be fine. The official update can't be rooted but nothing can stop you from installing a completely new, rooted rom.
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If he's getting it new Friday won't it already have the latest baseband anyway?

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