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Before people start coming in to flame me for using the search button, please let me clarify that i have looked into several threads on xda and none of them provided me with a clear cut answer of what i wanted to know.
I understand first of all is that nandroid backup is a complete image of what is on the phone which should include stuff like settings, sms, call logs, data etc. What i have not found, however, if they keep other files that are lying around in the phone. For example, most of my Nexus S consists of videos and music (7-10GB) and in separate folders that are not tied to any apps in particular. Hence, if they are included in nandroid backup i would not have sufficient storage to do so (reminder that Nexus S has 16 GB)
I have "accidentally" posted on the galaxy S forum of xda and someone pointed out that it backs up apps and data from the internal SD. As far as i know this is slightly different with Nexus S because i observed that most apps are already installed in the "external" SD portion of the data.
Overall, i'm just a little confused. Can anyone clarify this?
It is just apps and data. The sd card is i believe split so that it doesnt touch your music, videos, and images. It just takes care of the main system stuff like apps and settings. Hoped i helped
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But aren't most apps on the nexus S installed on the sd card section of the storage? At least they are under Settings->Application settings->Manage applications->USB Storage
For example my Gameloft games would be almost 1 GB in size so would that be backed up as well. I will end up with gigantic nandroid backups.
A nAnroid backup includes
.android_source - apps2sd information/apps stored on /sdcard
boot - boot image
cache - cache files stored on /cache
data - apps, dalvik other stuff on /data
recovery - recovery image
system - system apps, frameworks modules etc on /system
nadroid.md5 - md5 information
nandroids do not include anything on the /sdcard other than .android_source.
how to do it? by using CWM?? am i wrong or correct??
ciwek90 said:
how to do it? by using CWM?? am i wrong or correct??
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Correct.
Flash ClockworkMod.
(You might have to rename /etc/install-recovery.sh to get it to stick.)
Boot into fastboot (volumeUp+ power).
Recovery - Backup and Restore - Backup.
Maximilian Mary said:
Correct.
Flash ClockworkMod.
(You might have to rename /etc/install-recovery.sh to get it to stick.)
Boot into fastboot (volumeUp+ power).
Recovery - Backup and Restore - Backup.
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Awesome! but if i want to flash custom rom and i do backup first then i flash new custom rom, so i can get back all my apps by restoring nandroid backup is it? or nandroid backup is only for when things went wrong? i confuse...
ciwek90 said:
Awesome! but if i want to flash custom rom and i do backup first then i flash new custom rom, so i can get back all my apps by restoring nandroid backup is it? or nandroid backup is only for when things went wrong? i confuse...
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Nandroid is basically all or nothing. There is an advanced restore which can restore only the partitions you want (like system or data), but it probably won't play nicely with a custom rom. Your best best is to use titanium backup for user apps & data, and perhaps some select system data like texts, bookmarks, and wifi settings. Check out the batch backup/restore options for user apps & data.
ciwek90 said:
Awesome! but if i want to flash custom rom and i do backup first then i flash new custom rom, so i can get back all my apps by restoring nandroid backup is it? or nandroid backup is only for when things went wrong? i confuse...
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Nandroid backup backs up everything including the rom... so NO you can't restore apps with it.
To just save apks/apps you use eg Titanium Backup.
NOW i know it! Thank you so much @Maximilian Mary and @rentaric for helping me!
Nandroid = for backup/restore previous rom
Titanium = for backup/restore data & apps
Thanks again!
rentaric said:
Nandroid backup backs up everything including the rom... so NO you can't restore apps with it.
To just save apks/apps you use eg Titanium Backup.
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Bro, does nandroid backup include the IMEI also?
heyimCHOLO said:
Bro, does nandroid backup include the IMEI also?
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Some recoveries have this option buy many don't, just boot to your recovery and see if it is listed as an option, if not, then no
Your apps will still be on your sd card because your just restoring your operating system that you had with all of it settings it will show all of your apps you had but if you deleted it from the sd card when you try opening it it would say app not installed. Nandroid backup saves everything in settings and operating system apps will be on sd card. Some apps can be included in nandroid it just depends where they are located when back up is saved.
Alright, I have no declaration for it, but I found out, how to change quick between Creeds ROM1.5 and CM7.2 [port]
The Procedure is always the same, anyways if you installed CM7.2 first or Creeds ROM1.5 (if you already have a backup of both ROMs)
- Reboot to Recovery Mode
- Select Wipe data and cache , and also format /system
- Select restore (from backup and restore menu)
- Select according backup from sd card
- Wait till the recovery is finished
- reboot system
There you are.
Rodsengard said:
Alright, I have no declaration for it, but I found out, how to change quick between Creeds ROM1.5 and CM7.2 [port]
The Procedure is always the same, anyways if you installed CM7.2 first or Creeds ROM1.5 (if you already have a backup of both ROMs)
- Reboot to Recovery Mode
- Select Wipe data and cache , and also format /system
- Select restore (from backup and restore menu)
- Select according backup from sd card
- Wait till the recovery is finished
- reboot system
There you are.
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We all know that
johnlobo789 said:
We all know that
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dude there was no need for this stupid comment of yours.he is just trying to help and besides that most people dont kno bout this thing so just ****le up.
Well I am pretty new here and been playing allot with different ROM's since Christmas so it's good to know that this way works without problems, so thank you and ignore the idiot John above.
All right when we have backed up the Rom, and we are restoring from CWM what all do we need to flash? Just system or the others too
Rodsengard said:
Alright, I have no declaration for it, but I found out, how to change quick between Creeds ROM1.5 and CM7.2 [port]
The Procedure is always the same, anyways if you installed CM7.2 first or Creeds ROM1.5 (if you already have a backup of both ROMs)
- Reboot to Recovery Mode
- Select Wipe data and cache , and also format /system
- Select restore (from backup and restore menu)
- Select according backup from sd card
- Wait till the recovery is finished
- reboot system
There you are.
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good one... a needed thread for newbies
Thanks bro does the cwm also backup the firmware too ? Sorry for the noob question
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sedhasukhdeep said:
All right when we have backed up the Rom, and we are restoring from CWM what all do we need to flash? Just system or the others too
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nope, no need to flash it... just go to CWM and open backup and restore and chose either to restore or do an advance restore where you can choose which part of the backup you'd want to restore...
hope this helps...
hey, i have most noobish question ever, but when u say back up rom, i do that with for example titanium backup root? and then when i want to restore my current rom setings i just restore it from files on titanium backup, witch i need to transfer to pc before i format sd, rite?
djozaa said:
hey, i have most noobish question ever, but when u say back up rom, i do that with for example titanium backup root? and then when i want to restore my current rom setings i just restore it from files on titanium backup, witch i need to transfer to pc before i format sd, rite?
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I don´t exactly what Titanium Backup does, but I think it is more for the apps only. I think most use CWM recovery, which is flashed to Recovery of the ROM (no app). This backups EVERYTHING. Apps, System, preferences and data.
hey, got problem with latest cwm recovery, i instaled it from instructions from author, flashed with odin etc, entered cwm recovery afther boot, and went to backup, it fails at cant mount /system
djozaa said:
hey, got problem with latest cwm recovery, i instaled it from instructions from author, flashed with odin etc, entered cwm recovery afther boot, and went to backup, it fails at cant mount /system
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should not be, but just for information, try mount manually (mounts and storage ---> mount /system)
Another question. My bro has a Fit running 2.2 Froyo my questions are these
1. What is the upgrade path. Flash stock 2.3(DDKT1 or DXKT4)
2. Flash CWM (4 or 5)?
3. Restore with .zip from CWM?
PS: I own a Galaxy 551 its mostly OnePackage for that
Thanks
Hmmm yep thts currect
Hello,
I have problems restoring from nandroid backup.
Here what I did"
1) Flashed ROM1 and Flashed Kernel1.
2) Installed all My apps which I use.
3) Took Nandroid back-up.
4) Flashed ROM2. Flashed Kernel1.
5) Installed all apps.
6) After 1 days reflashed ROM1 and Kernel1.
7) Tried restoring Nandroid back-up I created 1 day back.
AND IT FAILS!!
Everytime I did a complete wipe of all data and catch and dalvik.
Same happened with CWM and AmonRa
CWM: md5 sums mismatch!!
AmonRa: Oops! Something went wrong!!
Am I mistaken about Nandroid back-up? Am I doing something wrong?
Actually I wanted to restore all my apps and data related to apps. I took whole system and data and everything backed up in the option.
1 Nandroid backup means it reflashes your backed up system with all your installed apps i.e if you have gb rom and do nandroid backup it will backup your current system( in this case gb) with all installed apps at the time you did backup.
2 You said it failed did it display any error while backing your nandroid backup.
3 Never heard of a backup being failed, you must have messed up something.
4 Md5 checksum mismatch means you either had a bad flash or if you moved or replaced some file also backup from different recovery will not work if you backed up from cmw then you cannot restore from amonra recovery, did you change recovery after backing up if you did then it wont work.
5. If you want to backup your apps and data next time try backing it with titanium backup root.Open titanium backup and press batch and then press backup all apps + data.
6. After flashimg new rom install titanium backup root from google play and press restore all app+data this will restore your apps with data.
7. If you use nandroid backup then your rom also changes to the rom that you had while backing up.
hope this helps
Go to your SDcard.. search and go to clockworkmod folder.. go to backup.. now whichever file you see.. Rename it xyz or anything WITHOUT any space!!
Try restoring then!!
hsingh1993 said:
1 Nandroid backup means it reflashes your backed up system with all your installed apps i.e if you have gb rom and do nandroid backup it will backup your current system( in this case gb) with all installed apps at the time you did backup.
2 You said it failed did it display any error while backing your nandroid backup.
3 Never heard of a backup being failed, you must have messed up something.
4 Md5 checksum mismatch means you either had a bad flash or if you moved or replaced some file also backup from different recovery will not work if you backed up from cmw then you cannot restore from amonra recovery, did you change recovery after backing up if you did then it wont work.
5. If you want to backup your apps and data next time try backing it with titanium backup root.Open titanium backup and press batch and then press backup all apps + data.
6. After flashimg new rom install titanium backup root from google play and press restore all app+data this will restore your apps with data.
7. If you use nandroid backup then your rom also changes to the rom that you had while backing up.
hope this helps
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I hadn't change anything but the name of the folder with some appropriate name like "CM-9.1.1 Final + CandiedIce Kernel + Apps", so that I can recognize it when I need it. No changes in the 5-6 files of recovery.
Didn't try restoring CWM back-up with AmonRa. Tried Amonra to Amonra and CWM to CWM. Failed all times (almost 5 to 6 times).
Does making folder name without any spaces in between work? If it's so, it's weird!! Is it that way? Should the folder name has to have NO SPACE?
"clockworkmode > backup > CM-9.1.1 + CandiedIce Kernel + Apps" - won't work.
But "clockworkmode > backup > CM-9.1.1+CandiedIce_Kernel+Apps" - will work??
Also, as known CWM couldn't back-up sdext. But otherwise No Error. While AmonRa did all back-up without any sort of error.
Dude.. just do it. WITHOUT ANY SPACE.. if you want to restore!!
And keep a small name!!
Eg: cm9.1.1.candied.ice
Dont use any special characters like $ & #
Thanks
rr0yy said:
Dude.. just do it. WITHOUT ANY SPACE.. if you want to restore!!
And keep a small name!!
Eg: cm9.1.1.candied.ice
Dont use any special characters like $ & #
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Thanks for the betterment of my knowledge. I shall keep this in mind for future use!! Recently I am stable with CM 9.1.1 without Gapps.
rr0yy said:
Dude.. just do it. WITHOUT ANY SPACE.. if you want to restore!!
And keep a small name!!
Eg: cm9.1.1.candied.ice
Dont use any special characters like $ & #
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Thanks man for the tip! :good:
I usually put spaces in my backup though i have'nt encountered that problem.
wyndcryst25 said:
Thanks man for the tip! :good:
I usually put spaces in my backup though i have'nt encountered that problem.
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So keeping a small name and without spaces is important??
sn809 said:
So keeping a small name and without spaces is important??
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yes, this is Linux, means no spaces.
i have a question about this subject,
if i want to backup my rom my stock 4.1.1 on my galaxy nexus how can i do that so that when and if i choose to return or sell the phone i would like to load up the stock Rom back on the phone in case the person isnt tech friendly.
does a Nandroid back up Rom files and kernel as well ???
thanks for any help guys
fariswheel said:
i have a question about this subject,
if i want to backup my rom my stock 4.1.1 on my galaxy nexus how can i do that so that when and if i choose to return or sell the phone i would like to load up the stock Rom back on the phone in case the person isnt tech friendly.
does a Nandroid back up Rom files and kernel as well ???
thanks for any help guys
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Use a custom recovery to backup. You can find them at galaxy nexus forum on xda
Yes, it restores everything. Nandroid backup is 1:1 copy of your entire phone memory. It will even restore your messages, call logs, accounts etc
sarus_b said:
Use a custom recovery to backup. You can find them at galaxy nexus forum on xda
Yes, it restores everything. Nandroid backup is 1:1 copy of your entire phone memory. It will even restore your messages, call logs, accounts etc
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So any NANDroid backup is 1:1?
Does that mean that NANDroid also wipes all data?
Searz said:
So any NANDroid backup is 1:1?
Does that mean that NANDroid also wipes all data?
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yes, is 1:1; if you restore a nandroid it will take the same space as the rom you backed up, and no, if you make a nandroid backup, you won't loose any data whatsoever, you still can continue using the rom you backed up, but if you are going to restore a nandroid it's better to make a full wipe, like if you are installing a rom, that's the way i do it...
gabo_lope said:
yes, is 1:1; if you restore a nandroid it will take the same space as the rom you backed up, and no, if you make a nandroid backup, you won't loose any data whatsoever, you still can continue using the rom you backed up, but if you are going to restore a nandroid it's better to make a full wipe, like if you are installing a rom, that's the way i do it...
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No, I didn't mean that you'd lose data when making a backup. That defeats the point of making a backup in the first place, lol.
I was talking about when you restore it. And from what you just wrote I assume that files that aren't overwritten when restoring remain. Similar to how you can flash a ROM "dirty".
Searz said:
No, I didn't mean that you'd lose data when making a backup. That defeats the point of making a backup in the first place, lol.
I was talking about when you restore it. And from what you just wrote I assume that files that aren't overwritten when restoring remain. Similar to how you can flash a ROM "dirty".
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Files will be overwritten. For example, if you make a nandroid, then update an app, when you restore that nandroid, you will restore the previous version of that app.
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upconvert said:
Files will be overwritten. For example, if you make a nandroid, then update an app, when you restore that nandroid, you will restore the previous version of that app.
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Yea, exactly how I thought it worked. Thanks for confirming that for me.
guys i have some questions.........
1) nanadroid backs up all system apps and saved data like messages, phonelogs, contacts, saved settings right ??
2) if I flash a new ROM and then want to go back to the previous state by flashing nandroid backup, does it unroot my device?
3) I backup system apps + data by nandroid backup and SD card apps by Titanium Backup. Is this right ??
Searz said:
No, I didn't mean that you'd lose data when making a backup. That defeats the point of making a backup in the first place, lol.
I was talking about when you restore it. And from what you just wrote I assume that files that aren't overwritten when restoring remain. Similar to how you can flash a ROM "dirty".
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4) If I have a backup of stock ROM then flash a custom ROM like CM, system files will be different in CM. SO when I restore the stock ROM, files that are new to CM will still remain right?
sorry for asking noob questions..........I'll really appreciate it if u guys answer this
Hmm
mike_24_11 said:
Hello,
I have problems restoring from nandroid backup.
Here what I did"
1) Flashed ROM1 and Flashed Kernel1.
2) Installed all My apps which I use.
3) Took Nandroid back-up.
4) Flashed ROM2. Flashed Kernel1.
5) Installed all apps.
6) After 1 days reflashed ROM1 and Kernel1.
7) Tried restoring Nandroid back-up I created 1 day back.
AND IT FAILS!!
Everytime I did a complete wipe of all data and catch and dalvik.
Same happened with CWM and AmonRa
CWM: md5 sums mismatch!!
AmonRa: Oops! Something went wrong!!
Am I mistaken about Nandroid back-up? Am I doing something wrong?
Actually I wanted to restore all my apps and data related to apps. I took whole system and data and everything backed up in the option.
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do you use cwm recovery or twrp idk about twrp but if you are using cwm go to the cwm recovery go down to backup and restore now backup it to sdcard1 (sometimes its shown as backup to external sd card depends on your phone what u use) or just press backup it backups your current rom and your files and now press restore and chose your restore file or if you backup it to your sd card you can do the same thing just chose restore from external sd card and chose your restore file :good: done :good:
How do you do a restore of a TWRP Backup of a ROM or the original Asus JB OS? I tried to restore the backup I did before flashing the CROMi-X ROM. When I try to do a restore in TWRP and goto the Micro SD Memory card I have the backup on it does not show any files. Do you have to use the same version of TWRP that you backed up in order to restore or can you use the same version or higher?
Thanks
TWRP can only read fat32. Are you sure your microSD is formatted correctly?
Unless the TWRP version you used to make the nandroid and your current one are miles apart, it should work. Hard to tell since you didn't post any versions.
I have TWRP 2.6.3 and it is able to read the memory card and see the Flash ZIP file. I used TWRP 2.6.1 to back up The Asus Stock ROM before flashing the custom ROM. When TWRP does a backup does it backup the Data and how my screens are set up or only the operating system?
berndblb said:
TWRP can only read fat32. Are you sure your microSD is formatted correctly?
Unless the TWRP version you used to make the nandroid and your current one are miles apart, it should work. Hard to tell since you didn't post any versions.
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daldude786 said:
I have TWRP 2.6.3 and it is able to read the memory card and see the Flash ZIP file. I used TWRP 2.6.1 to back up The Asus Stock ROM before flashing the custom ROM. When TWRP does a backup does it backup the Data and how my screens are set up or only the operating system?
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It depends what options you checked when you made the nandroid. If you left the default selection, TWRP backed up both system and data.
If TWRP can read your microSD, what's your problem? I don't understand - since you wrote earlier that TWRP doesn't see any files??
2.6.3 and 2.6.1 are compatible. You shouldn't have a problem restoring the nandroid.
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Let me Rephrase that I meant when I do a restore funtion it does not see any files but if I do a Flah funtion or use the file manager it does see files.
berndblb said:
It depends what options you checked when you made the nandroid. If you left the default selection, TWRP backed up both system and data.
If TWRP can read your microSD, what's your problem? I don't understand - since you wrote earlier that TWRP doesn't see any files??
2.6.3 and 2.6.1 are compatible. You shouldn't have a problem restoring the nandroid.
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Let me Rephrase that I meant when I do a restore funtion it does not see any files but if I do a Flah funtion or use the file manager it does see files.
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Did you manually copy the nandroid to the card?
It has to be nested exactly like TWRP created the folder or TWRP will not recognize it.
Something like TWRP/Backups/your-serial-number/date of backup/
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I can't see my serial number because I'm in a bootloop, how can I see it inside twrp?
While in recovery run this command frog your PC:
Code:
adb get-serialno
There's also a Terminal cmd that you could run in TWRP's terminal. Not certain but I think it's just
Code:
id
Ok, I have done my research and this is a common problem with a new flash, and it happened to me, but I didnt notice it until now. I have the 32 gig nexus, and its only utilizing half of that.
Is there any way at all to correct this without having to wipe everything? I have my phone setup like I want it, and it took a bit of workarounds with lollipop with viper and all.
Or can I at least just make a nandroid? and back up that file somewhere, and then reflash everything or do a wipe to get my space back, and then restore that nandroid? Or will that nandroid bring back the space problem?
Thanks
No. You have to wipe everything. Its the only fix.
Nandroid shouldn't cause an issue. Storage is the issue and nandroid doesn't back up or restore storage.
joho5 said:
Ok, I have done my research and this is a common problem with a new flash, and it happened to me, but I didnt notice it until now. I have the 32 gig nexus, and its only utilizing half of that.
Is there any way at all to correct this without having to wipe everything? I have my phone setup like I want it, and it took a bit of workarounds with lollipop with viper and all.
Or can I at least just make a nandroid? and back up that file somewhere, and then reflash everything or do a wipe to get my space back, and then restore that nandroid? Or will that nandroid bring back the space problem?
Thanks
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You can wipe userdata via fastboot and fix this issue.
Jnewell05 said:
You can wipe userdata via fastboot and fix this issue.
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This won't touch my internal SD right? So my backup would be safe? Could wipe userdata and then restore backup?
Thanks for taking the time to help.
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joho5 said:
This won't touch my internal SD right? So my backup would be safe? Could wipe userdata and then restore backup?
Thanks for taking the time to help.
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You HAVE to wipe your "internal SD"
Take a nandroid, backup ALL your data to PC.
rootSU said:
You HAVE to wipe your "internal SD"
Take a nandroid, backup ALL your data to PC.
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Which wipe command will wipe all of this?
I am comfortable using adb/fastboot or whatever, but just need to know how to completely wipe it all.
Can I just redo the factory image flash, like i did initially?
joho5 said:
Which wipe command will wipe all of this?
I am comfortable using adb/fastboot or whatever, but just need to know how to completely wipe it all.
Can I just redo the factory image flash, like i did initially?
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Use fastboot to erase and then flash userdata.img (not whole factory image)
formatting the userdata did the trick...thanks guys.
much appreciation.
Welp, new problem...knew it couldnt be quite that easy.
I copied my whole TWRP folder with the backup inside to my pc, now I cant copy it back. It gives me an immediate error saying it cant copy.
I can click into the folder and copy and paste just the backup folder onto my device, but how can I restore a backup from a custom location, because since twrp doesnt see the TWRP/Backups exact path, then I see no backups to restore from.
Is there a way to restore from say like just sd/backups?