After installing froyo, i noticed the phone lags alot more then when it was stock. I have overclocked it to 1ghz. Anyone else having this problem or have a fix for this?
mine actually got a lot smoother after upgrading.. im on 1.2
did you do a data wipe? also clear the dalvik cache via open recovery if you havent dont it
same here. for those who said its smoother, can u please check how long does it take to start a new app, as in how long does it take for the app to pop up from the moment u click the app in the app drawer/desktop to the time the app pops up? on 1.1 its almost instantaneous but on 1.2 it takes about 4 to 5 secs for the app to open.
it will depend if your apps are installed in the internal storage or on the external SD
Try formatting your SD card.
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same here. for those who said its smoother, can u please check how long does it take to start a new app, as in how long does it take for the app to pop up from the moment u click the app in the app drawer/desktop to the time the app pops up? on 1.1 its almost instantaneous but on 1.2 it takes about 4 to 5 secs for the app to open.
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Less then a second to open in my case. I really don't have any problems with the new update. I'm using a class 4. 8gb memory card that was partitioned with gparte. And dalvik cache is still in phone memory.
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same here. for those who said its smoother, can u please check how long does it take to start a new app, as in how long does it take for the app to pop up from the moment u click the app in the app drawer/desktop to the time the app pops up? on 1.1 its almost instantaneous but on 1.2 it takes about 4 to 5 secs for the app to open.
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I had this problem with 1.1b but I only wiped data, i didn't wipe cache or dalvik. When I installed 1.3 I wipe just cache and dalvik and the 4-5 sec delay is gone.
remember that if ypu install a new update for the custom rom you will always need to nuke the dalvik cache.
its due to the rom not being able to repopulate the cache properly. causing slow down in the system
Lag on wanted and dexters
Using Dexter's 1.3 ROM: Very noticable lag even after a full system/dalvik wipe. opening internal memory apps took at least 4 seconds and even with 800MHz overclock homescreens were jerky.
Using Wanted/Dexter's 1.2 ROM: The lag is less, about halfway between the original 2.1 French sbf I had before and dexter's 1.3. Only problem I find now is that some apps (etc. endomondo and tweetdeck) will force close on opening (only did a dalvik wipe for this one). Tweetdeck still gives update notifications curiously.
Also depends on the app. When a app is heavier, it takes longer to load with the specs we have on the XT720. For example, the browser and Trillian start immediatly (and I am on latest version from Dexter btw), but Angry Birds takes about 6 seconds to load. Simply 'cause it's a heavy app. Same for Pig Rush.
overall 2.2 froyo on XT720 runs way faster and smoother than the original 2.1 that it was shipped with.
at least that's my experience
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overall 2.2 froyo on XT720 runs way faster and smoother than the original 2.1 that it was shipped with.
at least that's my experience
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yep, its definitely faster then the 2.1 that its shipped with.
but it may not be faster then the 2.1 with JIT add-on...and that had more ram available as well i think
noo... i had the 2.1 + JIT add on and it was no where near as fast as the 2.2 from Dexter.
running at stock 720 Mhz feels like it is running at 1000 Mhz
back with the 2.1 + JIT i still had to clock the phone to 1000 to feel what it feels now on 720 Mhz
as for space of RAM, use Link2SD, if most of the Apps that you are using are not Apps2SD compatible
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noo... i had the 2.1 + JIT add on and it was no where near as fast as the 2.2 from Dexter.
running at stock 720 Mhz feels like it is running at 1000 Mhz
back with the 2.1 + JIT i still had to clock the phone to 1000 to feel what it feels now on 720 Mhz
as for space of RAM, use Link2SD, if most of the Apps that you are using are not Apps2SD compatible
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Oh ok, i still have dexters 1.2..not on 1.3 yet which is supposed to be faster.
Will using Links2SD free up RAM? isn't it only the internal phone storage which is affected?
I think I have dexters apps2ext because when I flashed the rom i had a ext2 partition on the memory card so it does it automatically. Does that make sense...i'm new to this stuff so correct me if I'm wrong please.
And does that mean my launcher pro home screen and everything else is on my sd card so it will add some lag- even if its a class 6.
Greetings to all! I few days ago I registered and I am with my XT720 and I hope to learn much, and what we can over time help. Now I'm thinking about changing ROM with Dexters, and I read that many people is more fluid with applications, is a great job by him.
When I go to experience them comment how I worked. by the time I have a question, I hope you can help me .... memory space for application installation is smaller? further applications from the SD? all applications remain after install?
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Greetings from Guatemala!
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Greetings to all! I few days ago I registered and I am with my XT720 and I hope to learn much, and what we can over time help. Now I'm thinking about changing ROM with Dexters, and I read that many people is more fluid with applications, is a great job by him.
When I go to experience them comment how I worked. by the time I have a question, I hope you can help me .... memory space for application installation is smaller? further applications from the SD? all applications remain after install?
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Greetings from Guatemala!
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no, the nandroid ROM restore will delete all the stuff that is in your phone, so make sure to backup everything before you proceed.
no changes to the storage, you can use Froyo's Apps 2 SD or the Link2SD app in the App section to do the move to SD card
There is a video tutorial on how to do it in the DEV section
Even after clearing data and wiping cache, i still notice it takes about 3 seconds to load apps (and phonebook/contacts) It may depend on the app as there are variance in its capacities.
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Also depends on the app. When a app is heavier, it takes longer to load with the specs we have on the XT720. For example, the browser and Trillian start immediatly (and I am on latest version from Dexter btw), but Angry Birds takes about 6 seconds to load. Simply 'cause it's a heavy app. Same for Pig Rush.
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sorry i did not see your post earlier, that's another explanation.
Well, hi im new and im from mexico. Sorry for my bad english hehe... well...
I just want to say that i had dex rom 1.3 but yes, it's so anoying touch an app icon and have to wait 5 secs to open it, i'm new in this world and i don't know how improve (or what i have to do) for rediuce these time, another thing is the temperature, whit this rom i have arround 31 - 37 °C and 33 - 40 °C when i am under sun... what can i do?
Now i have the wantedrom 1.2, lets see what happen.
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Hey,
So Ive been playing with CM-5.0.7-DS test1, like everyone im sure , however I am noticing some major slowdown in the Launcher, many apps, and especially in 3g gallery without some memory assistance such as Swap\CC for the "low-memory" devices like the G1\Dream.
I enabled a 96mb swap partition, swappiness 60 using a userinit.sh script (see attached), and it really helped speed things along.
Wanted to know everyone else's experience using swap on this crazy new upgrade to our 2-yr old device
Good call. You can also just install "Swapper" from market, and go to advanced preferences, enable partition, good to go.
I am using a 96mb swap partition, and am overclocked to 596 mhz with the replacement kernel. Everything is working brilliantly for me, very stable.
Android 2.1, 600mhz Android device, ample RAM via swap, 16gb card, new slim extended battery - I am once again a happy G1 owner!
kristoff123 said:
Good call. You can also just install "Swapper" from market, and go to advanced preferences, enable partition, good to go.
I am using a 96mb swap partition, and am overclocked to 596 mhz with the replacement kernel. Everything is working brilliantly for me, very stable.
Android 2.1, 600mhz Android device, ample RAM via swap, 16gb card, new slim extended battery - I am once again a happy G1 owner!
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:O howd u overclock to 596mhz?!
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:O howd u overclock to 596mhz?!
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The overclock thread that's been sitting on the top of this forum for the last week :0
the kernel I used is on page 38 or 39...anything over 600 eventually crashes for me, but 596 works very well. Flash video even plays fine with Skyfire - so many new goodies for my beloved G1!
-Although I am sure cyanogen will include that kernel or a better one with the next release, but leave it to the user to overclock using setcpu or whatever. Just leave it at 528 default via userinit.sh, so people can choose to what degree they want to melt their G1's, lol.
kristoff123 said:
Good call. You can also just install "Swapper" from market, and go to advanced preferences, enable partition, good to go.
I am using a 96mb swap partition, and am overclocked to 596 mhz with the replacement kernel. Everything is working brilliantly for me, very stable.
Android 2.1, 600mhz Android device, ample RAM via swap, 16gb card, new slim extended battery - I am once again a happy G1 owner!
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hello
link please
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hello
link please
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Here, searched my ass off to find it...your welcome
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6352322&postcount=402
ok, thank
but i put the image boot by fastboot and G1 reboot and reboot ?
In my personal experiences with swap..... I'm not exactly sure what it was supposed to do after I applied it.
I do know what it does though...
As stated in previous forums,
The longevity og my card is very important to me
And finally, Cyanogen advises against swap.
if you would like to learn his thoughts, read his wiki.
And op, you crack me up. +10!
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ok, thank
but i put the image boot by fastboot and G1 reboot and reboot ?
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i think its not a image that can be flashed. it should be paste to /sd-ext document.
u need to extract the userinit.sh script and put it in /sd-ext
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u need to extract the userinit.sh script and put it in /sd-ext
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and thats it??
zimphishmonger said:
u need to extract the userinit.sh script and put it in /sd-ext
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This conversation is confusing. 2 people talking about swap and 2 trying to overclock. Use the zip file from this thread, unzip it, open it with gedit or notepad++, add the stuff in the link from @zimphishmonger talking about overclocking. Follow the stepsw in that post. If you fastbooted the boot.img and it just boot loops, you may have trouble. You may need to reflash cm5.0.7. Or reinstall the Nandroid backup you made before you flashed it.
Also if history tells us anything, Cy will never include any over clock hack. He is pretty conservitive along those lines.
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Not exactly
do
adb shell chmod 755 /sd-ext/userinit.sh
to give it permissions.
My userinit.sh looks a little different so I can't say for sure it is correct.
...You mileage may vary.
thanks. running command now
seems to of took!
Swap is not a good feature to use, and I'll explain why:
When you enable swap, your end result is that you have a lot more "memory" available for programs to run in. Because of the memory management scheme used by android (kill background processes on low memory), it ends up that you will be RUNNING MORE PROCESSES. And this is a bad thing because (1) it means that your CPU will be more loaded (multitasking/background processes), and (2) it means that it will end up doing a lot of swapping (sdcard is SLOW) in order to continue providing all the "memory" allocated to each of those running programs.
The end result is that your phone will become VERY SLOW.
The ONLY legitimate use for swap is when you are running a process that is SO LARGE that it can't physically fit in the RAM available on the device *even when* all killable processes are already dead. And on Android, I have yet to encounter such a program.
DON'T USE SWAP! It will accomplish precisely TWO things;
(1) it will make your phone SLOW.
(2) it will kill your SDCARD.
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DON'T USE SWAP! It will accomplish precisely TWO things;
(1) it will make your phone SLOW.
(2) it will kill your SDCARD.
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(1) I disagree, it's the opposite ;-)
(2) agreed, but it probably will last enough till my next phone...
Most class 6 cards feature wear levelling from which from what I understand means I'll have upgraded my phone way before it ever dies.
For me using CM without swap has been impossible for quite a while now, gmail sync just doesn't work properly without the extra memory to fall back on. As for it slowing the phone down I've never noticed anything ever being slower with swap although I do have a class 6 card.
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(1) I disagree, it's the opposite ;-)
(2) agreed, but it probably will last enough till my next phone...
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+1 I disagree as well.
If anything it helps the phone operate normally. Especially with the G1 it has a tendency to push GTalk out of the memory. That means it stops pushing email notifications to your phone, which is really annoying. Even eBuddy has a hard time staying in the memory if you minimize it. The G1 one really benefits from having the swap. And really, are SD cards that expensive? I've had swap on for 8 months and my SD card is fine. I personally use 64MB on my G1 and 30 swappiness, anymore is excessive.
Really you only want enough memory that it holds all the essential apps in place. Autokiller helps too if set at Moderate. So far CM5 though, the battery life is phenomenal compared to the old 4.2.15 (especially after the battery wipe stats fix, if you're having battery drain issues).
If you're using this on the Magic, then I have an issue with that, since it isn't even needed. Unless you have like over 300MB worth of apps and cache. Then maybe you'll need an ext partition. But that's a separate issue.
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Swap is not a good feature to use, and I'll explain why:
When you enable swap, your end result is that you have a lot more "memory" available for programs to run in. Because of the memory management scheme used by android (kill background processes on low memory), it ends up that you will be RUNNING MORE PROCESSES. And this is a bad thing because (1) it means that your CPU will be more loaded (multitasking/background processes), and (2) it means that it will end up doing a lot of swapping (sdcard is SLOW) in order to continue providing all the "memory" allocated to each of those running programs.
The end result is that your phone will become VERY SLOW.
The ONLY legitimate use for swap is when you are running a process that is SO LARGE that it can't physically fit in the RAM available on the device *even when* all killable processes are already dead. And on Android, I have yet to encounter such a program.
DON'T USE SWAP! It will accomplish precisely TWO things;
(1) it will make your phone SLOW.
(2) it will kill your SDCARD.
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Check out autokiller in the market. It limits the running processes so that swap actually works.
For those uncomfortable with making a userinit script, as I said before, Swapper does the same thing, it's free, and it's not a program that runs in memory. With the benefit being that you can experiment with swappiness and other settings on the fly. Just go to "Advanced" and select your partition - it's the right location by default.
Using GUI for Darktremor Apps2SD on my phone it shows available RAM usually between 40mb and 85mb. Yet, on Total Free - it shows around 294mb of 457mb. How is this possible? I've ran the a2sd reinstall and never had any issues come back. How is this possible?
My phone is VERY snappy. Wow. Thats all I'm saying, but it does get sluggish if it drops in available memory. How do I use MORE of the total memory? Thinking maybe firerat? (this repartitions the internal memory I believe)
Any suggestions or explanations?
Its a Sprint HTC Hero. Rooted. Running aospCMod-20110322 (froyo 2.3.3). Class 6 2GB microSD card. Using Darktremor Apps2SD with swap, and cache on SD card. I am not using Froyo's native app2SD. Just the symlink used by Darktremor.
must be a GUI bug that prevents showing the real memory available. just go to settings> storage and scroll down to the phone memory row. it will show you the real memory available.
Settings > Memory Info Still shows 53 / 190
Sadly it shows me basically the same thing. Available memory / free memory. Thats my confusion. How do I get it to be 190 available memory or am I misunderstanding something.
HI, I'm new to the forums. Mostly I SEARCH & SEARCH & SEARCH again... so I don't have to ask too many questions. However, as I'm new I can't post yet other areas.
You know about 2 things that I want to ask about.
Having aps2sd (DarkTremors) how long did it take to install? You said you did the Cache which I want to do and when I did mine, it seems to have frozen? I reverted back to my backup. It's my public phone and I need it working. Though I could toss the 'sim' back in the old phone I replaced.
I got to test the effectiveness of a Back up which was quite fast. (That's why I'm wondering? Why it was taking so long?)
SO, how long does it take to install aps2sd (Including letting it do it's thing and creat links? 20 30 40 min?)
I've got a Class4 32gb card.
My other question is about the setup of the GUI. Just install the .apk or do I need to do any tweeking to get it functional with the script?
Hope to get a reply here. Thanks in advance. OH, in case it helps, I'm running an Xperia Mini Pro. I did consider waiting for the Xperia Pro but decided I wanted the compactness... it's a nice
daily user and good pocket size.
OH, and of course great price...
On my old Fascinate, anytime i switched apps launcherpro would load right away and my app drawer would always be complete. Now, almost any time I switch programs, launcherpro needs to reload so all my shortcuts take about 5 seconds to come up and the app drawer takes 30 seconds to fully populate. Does this have something to do with the amount of RAM on this phone? The usable ram seems to be less than the Fascinate! Also, my GO SMS takes seconds to load each time as well!
Also happens to me on APP 2 SD when trying to copy apps to my sd card, 9 times out of 10 the whole list needs to reload. Once it actually brought me back to the list that loaded and allowed me to move another app without waiting for the list to reload.
I am on Gummycharge 1.8 gingerbread.
This can happen sometimes if you have apps on your SD (and your SD card is slow).
Doesn't explain why launcher pro needs to restart. I'm using go launcher ex, which is stored in the internal memory, and it restarts often.
Gremlins are watching you...
When he said "if you have apps on your SD card," he didn't mean the launcher -- if you simply have apps on your SD card it can force your launcher to redraw as apps the launcher links to are obviously on SD. The prevailing theory as to why is that Samsung's bundled 32gb card is just too slow, because people who've purchased Class 6 cards don't experience the constant launcher redraws.
As for apps having to reload (and this certainly can affect third-party launchers as well, aside from the SD issue), yeah, that's more due to the low amount of RAM and it just means the OS is closing the app to free up memory for other tasks. That's normal behavior for Android, and is actually a good thing (otherwise you'd just run out of memory)... but if you don't like waiting for apps to start you could try uninstalling apps that keep running in the background. The app "Watchdog" can help you figure out which ones those are.
Falcyn said:
When he said "if you have apps on your SD card," he didn't mean the launcher -- if you simply have apps on your SD card it can force your launcher to redraw as apps the launcher links to are obviously on SD. The prevailing theory as to why is that Samsung's bundled 32gb card is just too slow, because people who've purchased Class 6 cards don't experience the constant launcher redraws.
As for apps having to reload (and this certainly can affect third-party launchers as well, aside from the SD issue), yeah, that's more due to the low amount of RAM and it just means the OS is closing the app to free up memory for other tasks. That's normal behavior for Android, and is actually a good thing (otherwise you'd just run out of memory)... but if you don't like waiting for apps to start you could try uninstalling apps that keep running in the background. The app "Watchdog" can help you figure out which ones those are.
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I actually used watchdog to erase programs that totalled about 100mb of memory and the issue is still at hand. I wonder if there is a way to put a priority on these apps so they are last to closed when they need to be closed so to speak
I have the same problem. I've been pissed about the class 2 card but I might steal the GF's class 4 from the TB and see if it changes the issue.
I've been using a class 6 card with my Charge since day 1 and also see these issues.
I was having similar issues w/ ADW EX. Switched back to Froyo 3 days ago, and haven't had a reload yet.
May I suggest taking at look the following thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
SuperCharger has REALLY improved my phone!!!
Wolfrazor said:
May I suggest taking at look the following thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
SuperCharger has REALLY improved my phone!!!
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Ah. So the script does work. Have you noticed any battery improvements/impacts?
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Wolfrazor said:
May I suggest taking at look the following thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
SuperCharger has REALLY improved my phone!!!
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I picked balance 1. I wonder what is a good setting?
Hey guys, I have a problem with my RAM u see I only have about 140mb of RAM, which when I bought my phone they said that they was going to be 768mb of RAM. So the problem is that whenever I kill all app using advance task killer, there would only be maximum of 200mba of RAM.but now after flashing a ROM the maximum RAM is 140mb n after opening one or two apps my phone necessary really laggy as I would only have 60 MBA left.on top of that my internet takes up about 80 MBA. So I am angry about this. So is there anesthesia else to increase the ram?thx
Your phone is broken; You should sell it to me. I'm joking of course, I don't want your broken POS. Lol Im sorry, I mean nothing is wrong with your phone.
256 is dedicated to the gpu, then another 300 or so is dedicated to the OS, and Rosie UI. The rest of that is what you're seeing. Don't worry though, 140MB is plenty of memory. You need to uninstall your 3rd party task killer and just enjoy using the phone.
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Your phone is broken; You should sell it to me. I'm joking of course, I don't want your broken POS. Lol Im sorry, I mean nothing is wrong with your phone.
256 is dedicated to the gpu, then another 300 or so is dedicated to the OS, and Rosie UI. The rest of that is what you're seeing. Don't worry though, 140MB is plenty of memory. You need to uninstall your 3rd party task killer and just enjoy using the phone.
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Tnx for the reply but my phone lags, bro how
If you are flashing roms, then I assume you are rooted. Get Titanium Backup and freeze Sense. That will free up RAM and speed up your phone. I am using ADW EX on the stock ROM and I froze Sense (found two parts of it in Titanium). My phone is faster than hell...
Matt
Even with sense running your phone shouldn't lag unless one of your apps isn't working properly. The way android background processes work, if an active application needs more ram than is currently free, the android system will automatically kill inactive app(s) to free up memory. The problem is with poorly written apps that maintain active status when they are no longer active or have unnecessary services that relaunch themselves when they are killed. Your task killer cannot fix poor coding. It only provides a placebo effect. At best it is unnecessary, at worst it will exacerbate the issue.
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Even with sense running your phone shouldn't lag unless one of your apps isn't working properly. The way android background processes work, if an active application needs more ram than is currently free, the android system will automatically kill inactive app(s) to free up memory. The problem is with poorly written apps that maintain active status when they are no longer active or have unnecessary services that relaunch themselves when they are killed. Your task killer cannot fix poor coding. It only provides a placebo effect. At best it is unnecessary, at worst it will exacerbate the issue.
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Yes, but android wont kill Sense. ;-) Trust me, freeze sense (dont remove it) and youll notice a difference.
Matt
mrg02d said:
Yes, but android wont kill Sense. ;-) Trust me, freeze sense (dont remove it) and youll notice a difference.
Matt
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Guys I freeze sense but nothing happen I think it became even more laggy, how anything else to try
Have you considered flashin another rom, or reflashing the one you're using ? It might help.
It happened to me as well : phone was laggy and sloooow. I went into Recovery, wiped all data, applied the super wipe script (just to be sure) and flashed again my rom.
Been on it for two days, and phone is really fast and responsive.
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Tnx for the reply but my phone lags, bro how
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What rom did you flash ?
Most rom devs seem to recommend giving your phone a day or 2 of normal usage to let the android os 'settle down'.
Mercvtio said:
Have you considered flashin another rom, or reflashing the one you're using ? It might help.
It happened to me as well : phone was laggy and sloooow. I went into Recovery, wiped all data, applied the super wipe script (just to be sure) and flashed again my rom.
Been on it for two days, and phone is really fast and responsive.
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but f i use super wipe will all my data be gone?
jasdev said:
but f i use super wipe will all my data be gone?
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use titanium to backup your apps... your phone contacts move to your sim cards...
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use titanium to backup your apps... your p
hone contacts move to your sim cards...
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I am also staying in singapore, then my setings n messages?btw usually wat is Ur maximum allowed multitaking apps
Well yes, you will lose all your data. As mentioned higher, you can use Titanium Backup to save them.
As for your messages, you can use a small app, like SMS Backup and Restore (free on the Market) to save everyting on your SD Card, and restore them after you're done.
Reagrding the max multitasking apps, I admit I don't know how many of them can be kept running. I usually have 2 or 3 of them going at the same time, rarely more.
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Well yes, you will lose all your data. As mentioned higher, you can use Titanium Backup to save them.
As for your messages, you can use a small app, like SMS Backup and Restore (free on the Market) to save everyting on your SD Card, and restore them after you're done.
Reagrding the max multitasking apps, I admit I don't know how many of them can be kept running. I usually have 2 or 3 of them going at the same time, rarely more.
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Thx bro, but because of all this it makes me regretfull getting this phone cause the RAM issue but other then that everything is good, I feel like getting galaxy s 2,haha
That's a pretty normal amount
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flipmatthew said:
That's a pretty normal amount
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Huh wat are u talking
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Huh wat are u talking
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He's saying that your free ram amount is pretty normal. I want to know where you're getting the free ram amount from? If its from task manager (included or third party) its probably wrong. Go to settings>applications>running services and look at the bottom. I found that to be the most consistant regardless of device. BTW, I currently have 215mb free with ~20+ apps running and I never kill anything. In comparison, task manager shows 97mb free with only 4 running apps.
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He's saying that your free ram amount is pretty normal. I want to know where you're getting the free ram amount from? If its from task manager (included or third party) its probably wrong. Go to settings>applications>running services and look at the bottom. I found that to be the most consistant regardless of device. BTW, I currently have 215mb free with ~20+ apps running and I never kill anything. In comparison, task manager shows 97mb free with only 4 running apps.
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Hey from the settings I have about 320mba free, but on my task manager it Shows 140mb, y? Another ques is why when I use internet n exit my phone becames very laggy n my task manager shows 80 MBA free, also y? It also becomes laggy after using market
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Hey from the settings I have about 320mba free, but on my task manager it Shows 140mb, y? Another ques is why when I use internet n exit my phone becames very laggy n my task manager shows 80 MBA free, also y? It also becomes laggy after using market
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that's because task manager shows only completely unused ram. Running processes in the settings menu shows unused ram as well as cached processes. Cached processes are automatically ended when ram is needed so the android system includes that ram in the available ram count. Task manager does not do this. It will only show the unused ram. If you take your total ram (from running services menu in settings) and subtract the total amount of ram used by cached processes the numbers in task manger will march the new total. Example:
Running services shows 332MB (this is my actual numbers by the way) with 162MB used by cached processes. Task manager shows 170MB free. The numbers add up.
332MB - 162MB = 170MB
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To see your cached processes go to:
menu> settings> applications> running services> menu> show cached processes
Behold_this said:
that's because task manager shows only completely unused ram. Running processes in the settings menu shows unused ram as well as cached processes. Cached processes are automatically ended when ram is needed so the android system includes that ram in the available ram count. Task manager does not do this. It will only show the unused ram. If you take your total ram (from running services menu in settings) and subtract the total amount of ram used by cached processes the numbers in task manger will march the new total. Example:
Running services shows 332MB (this is my actual numbers by the way) with 162MB used by cached processes. Task manager shows 170MB free. The numbers add up.
332MB - 162MB = 170MB
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To see your cached processes go to:
menu> settings> applications> running services> menu> show cached processes
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Thx bro but y foes my phone becomes laggy after using the internet, n also I only can run up to 4 app if I run some more it cancels the oldest app, y?
Im on xt1033 (no external sd). Im satisfied with the performance on my moto g but i hate it when i switch app (browser) sometimes it reloads the whole page as if it closes the browser because it doesnt have enough ram. I watched a couple of vids in yt about adding ram thru sd card, sadly ours dont have external sd card. I know we can partition our internal storage, right? Anyone here have done this? So we can add it as ram? I have 16gb model and i still have 7.5gb of free storage i have my phone for 8months now so im pretty sure im not needing more storage anytime soon. Anyone wanna try to experiment on this? So we can add another 500mb or a gig of ram?
Use a different ROM which has a little different policy of managing RAM... I too was frustrated by this problem but I have tried many ROMs but to no avail...Then I tried nexus 5 experience ROM and that has fixed the problem for me...So basically just use a custom ROM
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Hi, thanks for the suggestion but I'm not open to try any custom rom as of the moment. As long as the stock is the current version. I will still go with the stock.
kiko321 said:
Hi, thanks for the suggestion but I'm not open to try any custom rom as of the moment. As long as the stock is the current version. I will still go with the stock.
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It's a 150 dollars device... it's even too much good for its price. My average ram consumption with the phone just rebooted is around 500mb, you need to check which apps use too much ram (like 30mb+) and close them or, with root, you can prevent them from boot. Anyway, apps that require big amount of ram will always reload if you leave them in background.
As said above, you can't expect much more of such a cheap device as the Moto G.
On the other hand, 1GB RAM is still quite good amount to run you off pretty much everything. You can have insufficient RAM only if you use your phone as a computer replacement, which is very bad idea.
In that case you should get for example Xperia Z, which is way more suitable for that purpose or Note2. This will cost you significantly more cash of course.
Also you can't increase your RAM off the storage of the device, being it sd or emmc. You can't repartition the emmc either, this will most likely hard brick the device.
Swap is not a substitute for RAM and it never have been.
Thanks, i already have the boot manager via xposed module but still im experiencing it. anyway it was just an idea. Coz i have a lot of space in my internal.
I just noticed that even if i still have 100+ mb of free ram background app still reloads when reopen.
kiko321 said:
Thanks, i already have the boot manager via xposed module but still im experiencing it. anyway it was just an idea. Coz i have a lot of space in my internal.
I just noticed that even if i still have 100+ mb of free ram background app still reloads when reopen.
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I would recommend the Android Assistant app, it has a lot of features including a boot manager and also an easy button to free up RAM. There is ads tho unless you use Adaway.
My biggest gripe with the lack of ram on the G is when I'm trying to stream Pandora while using the navigation...I usually end up driving in silence until the annoying lady tells me where to go
The best way to prevent your problem is fine tuning minfree controls...I use trickster mod to make these settings...Do go through this link...It gives you details on how to fine tune them to solve your problem...
http://m.androidcentral.com/fine-tuning-minfree-settings-improving-androids-multi-tasking
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