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To Root or Not to Root?

I have a 2 month old Moto defy in India. Things were good till I updated to the official froyo update. Now the GPS does not work. This, I believe is a widely reported issue.
With no official updates in sight, the easiest thing to do would be to root and install a custom rom. However that would void the warranty and any claims that I may have to make at a later date.
I understand that if I install the GB roms, I can not go back.
Is there a way that I root, install some custom froyo rom and in case I need to return the phone revert it back to the factory state?

yes.you can root it & return back through stock system recovery.

Can you please point me how to go about it?

start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537
why don't you try cm7. its GB and you can still go back.

I remember reading somewhere that you can't go back from gb. Is it only for the official leaked gb?
mussio said:
start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537
why don't you try cm7. its GB and you can still go back.
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gadgetcraze said:
I remember reading somewhere that you can't go back from gb. Is it only for the official leaked gb?
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no, its not official, its a mod on froyo base, so you can go back. but this is a dev forum, please post threads here about development, everything else goes in defy general!

Thank you for the help.

Of course root. Unroot is easy and you still can return to stock rom after flashing custom rom.

Thanks everyone. Rooted and installed cm7. Snappy. Great going so far.

[Q] Plain G2x AOSP rom?????

Hi, I am getting my G2x next Friday and of coarse, gonna be rooting it as soon as I have it. But I want a plain 2.3.3 OTA rooted rom. No fancy names, EagleBlood, WeaponX and so on.. where or which one can I get? That has everything stock so I can remove and play with. Thank you.

Try the xboarder pretty much stock and debloated
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rvdangel630 said:
Try the xboarder pretty much stock and debloated
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also, forgot to mention no mixure of cm7 and aosp.. just plain, you know? as i dont like cm, its always buggy..
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Use this. It's the best stock ROM we have. Super quick, super awesome. Debloated and tweaked for performance.

is this the official ota, or just a leak before ota happend? latest but rooted? just want to get my answers before my phone gets here and because i dont like all that much tweaking of a rom or adding stuff to it just like i noticed with the xboarder link he added that host file adblock, can that just be uninstalled and be back to normal?
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or you can try faux's rom and kernel it works well.

noodles2224 said:
is this the official ota, or just a leak before ota happend? latest but rooted? just want to get my answers before my phone gets here and because i dont like all that much tweaking of a rom or adding stuff to it just like i noticed with the xboarder link he added that host file adblock, can that just be uninstalled and be back to normal?
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There is no adblock. It's an optional add on. It is the official OTA. He just slimmed it down and made it faster. No UI tweaks, or graphical tweaks of any kind

Yeah I was using xboarders tweeked version and it was great Super stable and great battery life no real issues. The completly stock one is good to but the tweek is better. It was my favorite till I installed eaglesblood 1.0.8 that is the best ROM ever made great everything it has a few issues but they are not specific to that ROM no one has figured out A2DP yet to my knowledge. I'm sure they will soon though. I think everyone should use eaglesblood.

Here. This is the OTA 2.3.3 update. It is rooted but that's pretty much it. Still has all the T-Mobile blaotware, etc. Flash it via clockworkmod recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179748

phburks said:
Here. This is the OTA 2.3.3 update. It is rooted but that's pretty much it. Still has all the T-Mobile blaotware, etc. Flash it via clockworkmod recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179748
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ok, perfect. thank you. just one thing, its the latest of any release for this phone right? because the G2 had 2 leaked version then i think an official
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noodles2224 said:
ok, perfect. thank you. just one thing, its the latest of any release for this phone right? because the G2 had 2 leaked version then i think an official
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Yea this is the same as the OTA from July/August, its just already rooted. Its not the leaked version from back in April or May or whenever that was. Right now this is the easiest (maybe the only?) way to have rooted 2.3.3 stock rom. You have to use nvflash (check development section for easy-to-use nvflash tool) to flash clockworkmod recovery and then you can boot into recovery and flash this zip.

And note that this zip will not touch your baseband.

Here's a link to the nvflash recovery flasher
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847

perfect, everything i am gonna need.. thank you again
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Check about phone in the settings when you get it, if your baseband is the march one then you need to run the lg update tool to get the new one.
No other way to get it, and it's a huge improvement.
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LordButtersI said:
Check about phone in the settings when you get it, if your baseband is the march one then you need to run the lg update tool to get the new one.
No other way to get it, and it's a huge improvement.
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well yeah but if i do that itll be an update without root right?? because the 2.3.3 cant be rooted right?
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noodles2224 said:
well yeah but if i do that itll be an update without root right?? because the 2.3.3 cant be rooted right?
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If you flash a rooted room via clockwork it'll be fine. The official update can't be rooted but nothing can stop you from installing a completely new, rooted rom.
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If he's getting it new Friday won't it already have the latest baseband anyway?

EP4 OTA Now Rolling Out

heard it from me first!
http://support.verizonwireless.com/pdf/system_update/droid_charge.pdf
what's all this about a new color scheme??? my ep4 is still poop.

New color scheme?? Whaattt?
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OK, total noob question
Since this is my first smartphone and I'm new to rooting/flashing ROMS/themes, I have a question about this: do I accept this OTA and then flash my current configuration afterward? Or should I ignore it, and if I do will VZW keep nagging me about it?
I'm running Humble 5.0 RC2, imoseyon 4 kernel, HumbleComb theme, and have backups from both the latest CWM and Titanium.
TIA for any advice.

Hitchslap said:
Since this is my first smartphone and I'm new to rooting/flashing ROMS/themes, I have a question about this: do I accept this OTA and then flash my current configuration afterward? Or should I ignore it, and if I do will VZW keep nagging me about it?
I'm running Humble 5.0 RC2, imoseyon 4 kernel, HumbleComb theme, and have backups from both the latest CWM and Titanium.
TIA for any advice.
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You have to go back to stock using odin, use the the pit file and download the stock rom.
Once your back to stock you can update the phone OTA.

I went back to ED1 and got the update to EE4, but no EP4 yet

Hitchslap said:
Since this is my first smartphone and I'm new to rooting/flashing ROMS/themes, I have a question about this: do I accept this OTA and then flash my current configuration afterward? Or should I ignore it, and if I do will VZW keep nagging me about it?
I'm running Humble 5.0 RC2, imoseyon 4 kernel, HumbleComb theme, and have backups from both the latest CWM and Titanium.
TIA for any advice.
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Personally I have a similar setup to yours and will not worry about the OTA. Custom roms built on it will be available soon enough, and what you have now will have mostly all the same fixes. And if you want radios I'm sure an odin flashable one will be along soon.

Is it EP4D or EP4P? If it's EP4P, why did Samsung release old code on their open source page?
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Yeah Im gonna wait too. No reason to go through the hassle of back to stock to maybe receive and update when soon enough someone will have create something else.

Cool, thanks
rand4ll said:
Personally I have a similar setup to yours and will not worry about the OTA. Custom roms built on it will be available soon enough, and what you have now will have mostly all the same fixes. And if you want radios I'm sure an odin flashable one will be along soon.
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Good enough, and thanks for the quick reply. I'll ignore it and wait for you awesome devs to post a new ROM. BTW, I'm using the EP4P radios, too.

jkat797 said:
New color scheme?? Whaattt?
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Lets hope so. And not just changing the quickpanel to the grey and brown that we've had in each leak

i am on stock rooted EE4 with the PBJT kernel. what would be required of me in order to receive this update??

tracyt said:
i am on stock rooted EE4 with the PBJT kernel. what would be required of me in order to receive this update??
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Imnuts has provided info here http://rootzwiki.com/topic/10202-how-to-prepare-for-the-gb-ota/
Basically need to be ee4 stock unrooted.

trparky said:
Is it EP4D or EP4P? If it's EP4P, why did Samsung release old code on their open source page?
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You think they stop working on trying to improve things and fix bugs just because a build was submitted for OTA testing? If that were the case, we'd never get the OTA.

imnuts said:
You think they stop working on trying to improve things and fix bugs just because a build was submitted for OTA testing? If that were the case, we'd never get the OTA.
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Like you know anything...lol
SENT FROM THE DOG POUND

All I'm waiting for is someone to system dump so we can get it already and see if its really a new last minute scheme.

ceredics said:
All I'm waiting for is someone to system dump so we can get it already and see if its really a new last minute scheme.
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I posted the source here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360144
Will get a syste dump posted up unless someone beats me to it lol.

OTA is not coming until the 29th.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/2...d-update-rolls-out-november-29/#disqus_thread

[Q] Returning to TMobile

So I called TMo and they're sending me a replacement G2x. I've seen a number of people claim that they never unroot their phones before sending them in. Is this true? I'm inclined to believe that this would cause issues but I'd just like everyone's two cents before I send this in.
Also, there's a thread in the dev section for reverting to stock. However, this uses SuperOneClick, a method for FroYo based G2x only. So, if I cannot send my phone in rooted, is there a method for reverting phones that have been updated to GB?
Thanks. And sorry if this has been posted before.

I believe you can use S.O.C. after already achieving root to help you revert back to stock. You can just go back to gingerbread no need for froyo.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
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You need to go back to a stock 2.3 unrooted rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255214
[ROOT] G2X Gingerbread 2.3.3. stock ROM with flashable zip in Clockworkmod Recovery Then use nvflash the recovery to stock to go back to a 100% stock
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Easy way to fix it is to format the /system in CWM then flash stock recovery with NVflash. Tell T-Mobile that the phone will not boot and your problem is fixed. No need to flash back to stock rom.

Prod1702 said:
Easy way to fix it is to format the /system in CWM then flash stock recovery with NVflash. Tell T-Mobile that the phone will not boot and your problem is fixed. No need to flash back to stock rom.
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That is pure evil. I like it.

GenghisKhan67 said:
That is pure evil. I like it.
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I work for T-Mobile if it makes you feel better.

Prod1702 said:
I work for T-Mobile if it makes you feel better.
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I used to work for T-Mo tier2 pda until they closed our support center January 2010... I never heard of someone having their warranty voided due to root, but it's probably better to be safe than sorry. Things may have changed.

OTA Jelly Bean update delete Home screen Issue

So I just downloaded and installed the ota update to jelly bean and whenever I try to delete homepages touch wiz home force closes... I've restarted my phone and even tried clearing data on touch wiz home app.
Anyone else have this problem?
btw..I am not rooted
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Just tried it and it force closed.
It let me add a new home screen no problem. But when I went to delete, it crashed.

Exactly! now I have 7 home screens but am only using 2.

Mine works like it should. Deletes fine, adds fine.
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No problems adding or removing homescreens for me after the update.

I'm wondering what could be causing this as I haven't rooted or done anything really. I'm having to use Apex atm until I [we ] figure it out.

Please post questions in Q&A
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Thanks
FNM

This seems to be a bug if you have "Transition duration scale" (it may be one of the other animator settings, i dont remember) turned off. Go into Developer options/Drawing and turn it back on, reboot and see if that fixes it. Default settings are 1x.

that works, thanks so much!!

Hey guys,
I'm new to the forum. I bought the s3 from an individual about 2 months ago and he had already installed one of the leaked versions of Jelly Bean. Now that Verizon has finally released the official OTA upgrade, I was wanted to install it because there are a few things that this version has that mine doesn't. Would I have to restore my firmware back to stock to be able to receive the OTA (haven't got any notifications to update)? If so, whats the best way to do it? Use the odin process that I have read about?
Thanks

cnorman31 said:
Hey guys,
I'm new to the forum. I bought the s3 from an individual about 2 months ago and he had already installed one of the leaked versions of Jelly Bean. Now that Verizon has finally released the official OTA upgrade, I was wanted to install it because there are a few things that this version has that mine doesn't. Would I have to restore my firmware back to stock to be able to receive the OTA (haven't got any notifications to update)? If so, whats the best way to do it? Use the odin process that I have read about?
Thanks
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You would have to restore your phone back to the VRALHE build of ICS or earlier to get the OTA. It is probably simpler to use one of these guides to just go straight to the same build as the OTA. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1974114 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1984436. They both involve using Odin to flash the images. You can use the no-wipe versions to keep all your data intact or you can use the full-wipe versions instead. You can also check out section 5 in this guide to go back to stock and then OTA if you want to do a little more work. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709

BigErnM said:
You would have to restore your phone back to the VRALHE build of ICS or earlier to get the OTA. It is probably simpler to use one of these guides to just go straight to the same build as the OTA. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1974114 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1984436. They both involve using Odin to flash the images. You can use the no-wipe versions to keep all your data intact or you can use the full-wipe versions instead. You can also check out section 5 in this guide to go back to stock and then OTA if you want to do a little more work. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
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Do you have a link to the VRALHE build? For odin?
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Rbh0909 said:
Do you have a link to the VRALHE build? For odin?
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Sounds like you are just looking for more work. If go to HE and update to OTA will still have do the same amount of ODIN work to Root and unlock to end up in the same place. There is no advantage of OTA over K3 leak.

prdog1 said:
Sounds like you are just looking for more work. If go to HE and update to OTA will still have do the same amount of ODIN work to Root and unlock to end up in the same place. There is no advantage of OTA over K3 leak.
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Makes sense. So can I just flash the root66 Odin file that comes rooted already? Im on 4.1.1 ota
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