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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/technology/7894516.stm
So what are the odds jf will be able to get us cupcake when it finally rolls out on the htc magic
As far as I know cupcake will never be released, not the way most people think at least. It's a development branch, a fork of the regular Android build, which will release new modules one at a time, as they get ready. I'd wager that the RC33/ADP1.1 Holiday releases already have "cupcake parts" in them. But seeing as the G2/Magic lacks a real keyboard, we can count on one thing at least; it will have the fabled cupcake on-screen keyboard.
wow, it looks just like the G1 but, strangly, not as good.
I need a physical keyboard...
I'll wait for the G3. Unless samsung manages to pull out an OmniaHD with a keyboard and android
this looks like a cheaper less expensive g1...i doubt there will be anywhere near the support
for this phone as there has been for the Dream.
No physical keyboard? Fail. I can't stand touch screen for typing I need a physical keyboard. The most common complaints I hear about the iPhone and the Blackberry Storm is the lack of a physical keyboard. I also don't see anything about a onboard GPU either that'd give it graphics that can compete with the iPhone. Like what was said it's probably just a G1 that's cheaper to make which is utterly disappointing. It's less like a G2 and more like a G1.5.
bummer, i was hoping for a full screen face. looks like a keyboardless, cheaper G1 :/
Appears to have video tho.. may be useful for the g1?
The Magic's photo gallery app has built-in video playback, unlike on the G1. You can record videos with the phone, as well, at two quality settings - "low" and "high." The video player plays movies from a microSD card in full-screen mode.
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Here's some more pics
HTC Magic
I thought this was interesting, HTC is releasing its second Android phone, and no its not the G2.
I just happened to browse there website today and noticed the new phone, what strikes me as odd is the fact that the phone has no physical keyboard and they say its all on-screen... Which I assume means they have a cupcake build running stable enough for a release with Vodaphone.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/17/htc-magic-is-official-bringing-android-to-vodafone-sans-keyboar/
You can also see the phone at HTC's website:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/magic/overview.html
Official Vodaphone Press Release:
http://www.vodafone.com/start/media...ss_releases/2009/vodafone_and_htc_unveil.html
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Please forgive if this was already posted somewhere...
On a side note, today is my Birthday maybe I can ask for a shiny new Android phone
Kryptyx said:
the phone has no physical keyboard and they say its all on-screen... Which I assume means they have a cupcake build running stable enough for a release with Vodaphone.
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Looks like it would have to run a stable release branched off from the cupcake development branch since, per its specs, it would at least need:
- software keyboard
- video recording capability
- A2DP
if you read the engadget post you'll see that the keyboard is not yet stable
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if you read the engadget post you'll see that the keyboard is not yet stable
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One thing the htc magic does have are all the cupcake compatible google and closed source apps.
In the phonedog video, somebody actually demoed the new enhancements to the gmail app such as tagging for batch processing.
I'm guessing google is waiting for cupcake to stabilize before making those apps available.
Good to see they're sticking with some sort of lip at the bottom, funny if all Android phones happened to have bent bottoms to them
Or, they are releasing their apps to phone manufacturers rather than developers first. Google needs to get their priorities in order, I think.
also note that the Vodaphone site says release in Spring, which means probably end of spring/summer. Really, anything that they demoed could have easily been smoke and mirrors (very common in software/gadgets ), but, most likely they are working off of trunk that had cupcake merged into it back in December.
In other words, this means nothing about a stable cupcake build
could the firmware for this be ported to the G1, seing as its, well, basically the same?
or would there be no physical keyboard support, etc?
Hmm I suppose your right, with the spring/summer release date I wonder if they *think* they will have cupcake stable by then. This is kind of a relief for me, I just got my G1 back in early December - I'd be kinda upset to see a G2 release so fast.
The hardware is mildly better if that, so I suppose its nothing to get too excited about, I guess its a white G1 without the keyboard... Personally the keyboard was one of the bigger selling points to me buying the G1 over the iPhone. Besides my love for Google products.
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Hmm I suppose your right, with the spring/summer release date I wonder if they *think* they will have cupcake stable by then. This is kind of a relief for me, I just got my G1 back in early December - I'd be kinda upset to see a G2 release so fast.
The hardware is mildly better if that, so I suppose its nothing to get too excited about, I guess its a white G1 without the keyboard... Personally the keyboard was one of the bigger selling points to me buying the G1 over the iPhone. Besides my love for Google products.
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BTW, this is NOT the G2, as t-mobile owns that name. The G2 will probably be a different HTC phone. That said, I agree, to me, losing my physical QWERTY keyboard is a major downgrade
I like having the physical keyboard too, and I think the G1 is a better looking phone. I'm really happy to know that I won't be wishing I had the Magic instead of the Dream!
bakgwailo said:
BTW, this is NOT the G2, as t-mobile owns that name. The G2 will probably be a different HTC phone. That said, I agree, to me, losing my physical QWERTY keyboard is a major downgrade
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Yes, I know its not the G2... There were alot of rumors that HTC's next android powered phone would be the G2... Which its not
VIEW YouTube Video: from SlashGear
from androidcommunity.com, today, Feb 17, 2009:
HTC Magic Android phone, hands-on
Posted on 17 February 2009 by Vincent Nguyen
We know we said that HTC weren’t allowing live shots or video of the HTC Magic, but we couldn’t leave it at that. Non-final hardware or not, we know you guys are as excited by the Magic as we are, and still want to see it. Hands-on, the HTC Magic is everything the G1 was not: thin and lightweight, with none of the bulk G1 owners have complained about.
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It also has more RAM - 192MB - so it should run quicker and be able to multitask more comfortably than the G1. The on-screen keyboard - which is only available in portrait orientation, not landscape - has letters which pop-up when you press them, as on the iPhone, which makes text entry much easier.
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In the non-final hardware we’ve played with, the key change are the hardware buttons on the HTC Magic’s “chin” section. The prototype has thin, sliver-style keys running under the capacitive touchscreen, together with a single button (”Menu”) to the left of the trackball. The final hardware will have four square keys under the screen, with functions switched around to leave call send/end on keys either side of the trackball.
According to Vodafone Spain, the HTC Magic will be priced between 99 Euro and 199 Euro when it launches. Still no word on pricing outside of Spain, nor when the HTC Magic will be available in the US.
We’ve got a full 1-on-1 hands-on session with the Vodafone HTC Magic tomorrow, so expect plenty more photos and footage after that!
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Hey guys, I know there is not much of a difference between the Captivate and the Vibrant in terms of hardware. I have had a Captivate since the summer (around launch time) and just bought a Vibrant. I am amazed at how much more smooth and responsive the Vibrant is. I figured maybe it was because my Captivate is not stock (it's running Cognition 2.7), but I messed around with a totally stock Captivate belonging to a friend and compared to my stock Vibrant, it was not nearly as snappy. Has anyone else experienced this?
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Hey guys, I know there is not much of a difference between the Captivate and the Vibrant in terms of hardware. I have had a Captivate since the summer (around launch time) and just bought a Vibrant. I am amazed at how much more smooth and responsive the Vibrant is. I figured maybe it was because my Captivate is not stock (it's running Cognition 2.7), but I messed around with a totally stock Captivate belonging to a friend and compared to my stock Vibrant, it was not nearly as snappy. Has anyone else experienced this?
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maybe it has something to do with the vibrant being stock and completely untouched, like no software installed. I notice that with my captivate when i just master clear or factory reset it as well. Use your vibrant for awhile and then compare to the captivate. They shouldn't be different because hardware is exactly the same.
One way you can check for sure, is to run a master clear on both, and installing the same rom and see if they are as "smooth and responsive" as each other. Imho, it is just a placebo effect though.
The Vibrant runs different software obviously. JI6 is extremely responsive if you have it on the Vibrant infront of you.
i did actually kind of notice that as well. i never messed around with the vibrant much, but it did appear to be snappier
Yup, I have JI6 on the Vibrant. I also have it on the Captivate according to the "About Phone" tab (running Cognition 2.2 Beta 7.) It is pretty amazing that there is such a difference. The Vibrant's GPS is better than my Captivate also, but I know GPS varies from individual phone to phone even within the Captivate branding.
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Yup, I have JI6 on the Vibrant. I also have it on the Captivate according to the "About Phone" tab (running Cognition 2.2 Beta 7.) It is pretty amazing that there is such a difference. The Vibrant's GPS is better than my Captivate also, but I know GPS varies from individual phone to phone even within the Captivate branding.
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JI6 on the Vibrant is 2.1 ECLAIR
JI6 on the Captivate is 2.2 FROYO
different versions altogether.
I have friends at work who all have Vibrants (3 of em damn them for sucking me into the droid world! ).
I had my Captivate running Cog's Froyo and they were running different Vibrant ROM's.
I didn't really notice any difference in performance.. the Captivate kept right up with the Vibrant - even the OC'd one the guy had.
If anything I think they were a little jealous that I already had a 2.2 Froyo build (beat sure..) and they were still running 2.1.
Vibrant settings
Just out of curiosity, on the Vibrant under Settings, About Phone, Legal information - does it say anything about Divx? I am curious because if so I want to get an unlocked Vibrant and put it on ATT.
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Just out of curiosity, on the Vibrant under Settings, About Phone, Legal information - does it say anything about Divx? I am curious because if so I want to get an unlocked Vibrant and put it on ATT.
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Hey, I am in Legal Info, Open Source Licenses. There is one that says "Notice for file(s): /system/lib/libdivx_jni.so, /system/lib/libdivxdrm.so, copyright 1995-1997 by Eric Young"
I was not aware that JI6 on Vibrant is Eclair whilst on Captivate it is Froyo (although I am aware that my Vibrant is Eclair and my Captivate is Froyo) - very interesting. Samsung has certainly done a lot of work to individuate these phones.
Another funny thing I noticed - the Vibrant has the same shape as the rest of the Galaxy S family, including the European i9000 - I read somewhere that AT&T made them change the shape for the Captivate to not distract prospective iPhone buyers, hence the Captivate's rectangle shape. Samsung must really have an Apple fetish!
Funnily enough, the Vibrant's music app has a blue music note instead of the red one on the Captivate - making the music app look just like iTunes' classic logo. This didn't occur to me until I bought the Vibrant, as the red music note on the Captivate version prevented me from making the connection. It looks like AT&T made them change the color of the icon.
Getting back on topic: don't get me wrong, I still love my Captivate. The difference responsiveness and overall feel is interesting to me. Now I want to mess around with a Fascinate and an Epic 4G and see any further differences. Even the Windowshade on the Vibrant looks different from that of the Captivate - it's a lot of work that Samsung did for these 4 phones, to prepare them for the carriers' whims.
My captivate plays .avi files.....
not sure what youre looking for but just putting that out there
iamamp3pimp said:
My captivate plays .avi files.....
not sure what youre looking for but just putting that out there
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Oh I have been through this on multiple forums. The Captivate is not Divx certified. Yes you can play avi's but they are either avi's converted with the Xvid codec and they don't have AC3 sound.
That is problematic for me because I would prefer to just put movies from my movie server onto the phone directly without any conversion. Right now the Verizon Fascinate works exactly like that and I was wondering if the Vibrant does too.
Check it out. Samsung lists Addroid 2.2 as the os for our phone.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-I897ZKAATT
Thats Interesting.
On the same site under specs it shows 2.1. Yet on the first paragraph it says 2.2
So now you can chalk up false advertising with nonexistent support. Way to go Samsung!
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So now you can chalk up false advertising with nonexistent support. Way to go Samsung!
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That's pretty lame for sure...you would think someone would proof read their changes to their web site..but there I go again...applying logic to an illogical situation...
Mac
From tech support agent
Please wait for a Samsung Agent to respond.
Chat Information You are now chatting with 'Paxton'
Paxton: Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?
Visitor: Hi, I noticed the Samsung Captivate page now says it has Android 2.2 - Does this mean the new phones are being shipped with 2.2 (in the U.S.)?
Paxton: I understand that you want no information regarding the new Samsung captivate and the operating system coming with the phone. Am I right?
Visitor: yes
Paxton: As it is about to be released that the reason it's posted on the website.
Wow is it just me or does it seem like you are talking to HAL 9000?
I dont know how many would remember this but, its almost like they have Dr. Sbiatso answering the online chat questions.
out sourced.
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Chat Information You are now chatting with 'Paxton'
Paxton: Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?
Visitor: Hi, I noticed the Samsung Captivate page now says it has Android 2.2 - Does this mean the new phones are being shipped with 2.2 (in the U.S.)?
Paxton: I understand that you want no information regarding the new Samsung captivate and the operating system coming with the phone. Am I right?
Visitor: yes
Paxton: As it is about to be released that the reason it's posted on the website.
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This change nearly coincides with the previously rumored date for AT&T's release of Froyo Captivates to the AT&T stores (Nov 21st). While I have not heard anything about what version is on the AT&T store Captivates, it does look like Samsung was/is expecting new Captivates to come with 2.2 starting today or yesterday...
Was told flat out by a Samsung business rep in person that Froyo is out first week of Dec for AT&T Captivate. Hope it comes early...but that was right from the horses mouth.
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born_fisherman said:
Paxton: As it is about to be released that the reason it's posted on the website.
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Notice, very vague on an actual release date.
h8rift said:
Was told flat out by a Samsung business rep in person that Froyo is out first week of Dec for AT&T Captivate. Hope it comes early...but that was right from the horses mouth.
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Who, Mr. Ed? *grabs popcorn*
I can't wait for the official release! This Mobile AP and lack of bloatware is driving me crazy!
Just kidding; I know there are some of you who don't want to root your phones and whatnot.
Odd, it actually says comes with 2.2 but when you look at the specs it says 2.1 OS, they are confused. Perhaps out of boredom I will flash back to stock and connect with mini kies to see if it is available.
Rhiannon224 said:
Odd, it actually says comes with 2.2 but when you look at the specs it says 2.1 OS, they are confused. Perhaps out of boredom I will flash back to stock and connect with mini kies to see if it is available.
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Don't bother. I checked kies mini this morning and about an hour ago. Kies mini updated this morning. It just says "current version".
I wonder why we havent seen a new leaked ROM for the captivate is an offical 2.2 is in the works. Maybe AT&T is just gonna push Cog v2.3b6 to our phones
so this is what the website says now (i bolded the 2.2 reference)
Galaxy S with Android 2.1 OS
Do you want the whole world in your hands? How about the whole universe? Tens of thousands of apps populate Android Market -- everything from popular games to productivity tools to constellation maps. Powered by the latest Android platform(and upgradeable to 2.2), this phone fully integrates with Google Mobile Services. You're now at one with your Gmail account, Google Maps, YouTube videos and more.
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Was told flat out by a Samsung business rep in person that Froyo is out first week of Dec for AT&T Captivate. Hope it comes early...but that was right from the horses mouth.
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That horse has a lot of mouths. And they're not all singing the same song. Hoping but not holding my breath.
skinien said:
I can't wait for the official release! This Mobile AP and lack of bloatware is driving me crazy!
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Haha
Took the words right out of this horses mouth
From a phone
And I have bridge to sell that's east of chicago
my kies mini updated but now when i connect to my phone it dosen't check for an update. It allways did before?
So the dk05 source kernel has been dropped on 11/15/2010 for the Korean Samsung Galaxy shw-m110s, the specs look almost the same as the sgh-d700, hummingbird 1ghz processor, Samoled, 480x800 display. Besides some other major and minor details in differences, i'm sure there could be some things of use...So a couple buddies and i are going to see what we can pick it apart and hopefully get a jump start on 2.2...fail or succeed it's worth a start somewhere.
Samsung Epic leaked 2.2 froyo 4.2DJ29, Di18 modem
QuantamRom1.1, smiley->@ hack,ACS 2.2 Theme,
Neocore 56fps, linpack 20mflops, quadrant 1020, BenchmarkPi 1273 #11750, Now with Ubuntu.
Now this is becoming Epic!
link to the source?
Looking at http://opensource.samsung.com/ only the DK05 source for the Galaxy A and Galaxy Tab were released.
I'm glad they released it before the two Koreas start nuking each other.
We'll never get the source now
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sorry about the late reply was working
but there is one on github from someone named liliniser
https://github.com/Liliniser/SHW-M110S-FroYo
if wanted i'll add a link to m dropbox for the zip. it seems so far that some of the main differences between the two is that the epic has the qwerty keyboard and the shw has more internal memory over the epic.but it's not an internal sdcard.
everywhere taht i look says the korean version is gsm as well.. which means a lot more variations for us and would be more akin to the vibrant or i9000
mousiluck said:
So the dk05 source kernel has been dropped on 11/15/2010 for the Korean Samsung Galaxy shw-m110s, the specs look almost the same as the sgh-d700, hummingbird 1ghz processor, Samoled, 480x800 display. Besides some other major and minor details in differences, i'm sure there could be some things of use...So a couple buddies and i are going to see what we can pick it apart and hopefully get a jump start on 2.2...fail or succeed it's worth a start somewhere.
Samsung Epic leaked 2.2 froyo 4.2DJ29, Di18 modem
QuantamRom1.1, smiley->@ hack,ACS 2.2 Theme,
Neocore 56fps, linpack 20mflops, quadrant 1020, BenchmarkPi 1273 #11750, Now with Ubuntu.
Now this is becoming Epic!
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Oooooo!! Is the tv out driver in there!?
shabbypenguin said:
everywhere taht i look says the korean version is gsm as well.. which means a lot more variations for us and would be more akin to the vibrant or i9000
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Yeah I noticed it was in korean gsm, im waiting to see if the chinese cdma variant kernel will be dropped. There are some things in this one that looks good and hope to work it into the epic. I do see the tvout goodie in there though.
Samsung Epic leaked 2.2 froyo 4.2DJ29, Di18 modem
QuantamRom1.1, smiley->@ hack,ACS 2.2 Theme,
Neocore 56fps, linpack 20mflops, quadrant 1020, BenchmarkPi 1273 #11750, Now with Ubuntu.
Now this is becoming Epic!
Looking promising so far, although who cares about the DK05 kernel unless it is the exact same source as the froyo OTA? Not a whole lot we can do with this until it is determined whether or not this will be the same as the final source code. Add that on top of the fact that it is for GSM phones rather than CDMA too :-/
According to this article: http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/12/10/s...2-2-might-be-released-later-in-december-2010/
We may see Froyo later in December. But if you are like me who have been waiting for the official release and not the leaked roms, and have been searching "when, when, when, when." It may just be here. But just like the past, Samsung has failed to deliver on the date when they said: October, November, December. Now it is late December.
I will be waiting.
Keep in mind this is for Canadian carriers.
also keep in mind samsung always says one day and it ends up being forever later!
Also keep in mind that the article used the word "MIGHT"... not "WILL".
well it's already officialy out for Bell (Vibrant)... so I'm guessing Rogers (Captivate) should make the move soon...
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Also keep in mind that the article used the word "MIGHT"... not "WILL".
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“If you are an owner of a Samsung Galaxy S Captivate (SGH-i896) or Samsung Galaxy S Fascinate 3G+ (SGH-T959), the upgrade software for these phones is currently being tested and we are working on a release for later in December 2010.”
Sounds like "will" to me. Only thing missing is when.
I would actually be impressed with Rogers if they got it done before AT&T did as AT&T has had the phone a few months longer. I'm on Rogers, with an AT&T phone, I'll take whichever release comes first.
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“If you are an owner of a Samsung Galaxy S Captivate (SGH-i896) or Samsung Galaxy S Fascinate 3G+ (SGH-T959), the upgrade software for these phones is currently being tested and we are working on a release for later in December 2010.”
Sounds like "will" to me. Only thing missing is when.
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my MIGHT vs WILL is for "later in December" as stated in the title of the article - Samsung Galaxy S Fascinate OS 2.2 might be released “later in December 2010″
Samsung always said "By the end of the year" for US Galaxy S phones. They never promised any month for US phones.
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Samsung always said "By the end of the year" for US Galaxy S phones. They never promised any month for US phones.
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This statement contradicts itself.
I think if we get Froyo by Dec 31 at 11:59pm we will be very lucky. As to Gingerbread that might come in 2012 if at all. I really dont understand the foot dragging by the US carriers. Unless ATT is locking out more functions
I'm thinking how we can all aim our fireworks for New Years at Samsung's headquarter. Or AT&T as well.
We will just have to wait and see, If history holds true, (like they did with WM builds) the Offical update from ATT will be nothing more then the leaked rom we have been using for months with a few things removed or added. Like the lock out for tethering without a tethering plan and such.
AT&T is like,
"hey look, Google just sent us froyo, should we roll out the update to our payed customers?"
"No. We have to add our bloatware first, that is the most important thing"
"Well they've been waiting awhile now..."
"So? We'll have it done in a couple months"
"The captivate will be obsolete by then..."
"Oh ya...oh well, this isn't Burger King, you don't "have it your way"
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I'll give odds that it won't be out til next year.
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I just want to get some sort of leaked 2.2.1 build so we can get some epic levels of custom roms that are stable...
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AT&T is like,
"hey look, Google just sent us froyo, should we roll out the update to our payed customers?"
"No. We have to add our bloatware first, that is the most important thing"
"Well they've been waiting awhile now..."
"So? We'll have it done in a couple months"
"The captivate will be obsolete by then..."
"Oh ya...oh well, this isn't Burger King, you don't "have it your way"
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HAHAHAHA oh wait.... Dun worry it gon be K. Canada's Cappys have it.
This is extremely old (and reposted news)...lol.
On another note, AT&T doesn't add the bloatware. Samsung, based on the handset requirements they get from AT&T add the bloatware.
emuneee said:
This is extremely old (and reposted news)...lol.
On another note, AT&T doesn't add the bloatware. Samsung, based on the handset requirements they get from AT&T add the bloatware.
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You are splitting hairs - AT&T is the driver behind the added bloatware. Samsung only does because AT&T requires it. If they had their way, they would have one ROM that worked on all carriers. They would still add Touchwiz to differentiate themselves from vanilla Android - and for average joe consumer this is a successful strategy. AT&T wouldn't add the bloatware (force Samsung to add it) if they didn't generate a decent amount of revenue on it.
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We may see Froyo later in December. But if you are like me who have been waiting for the official release and not the leaked roms, and have been searching "when, when, when, when." It may just be here. But just like the past, Samsung has failed to deliver on the date when they said: October, November, December. Now it is late December.
I will be waiting.
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Im not to excited anymore about froyo(Don't get me wrong i absolutely love the captivate). Samsung just needs to go ahead and roll out their new phone with Gingerbread. I am am waiting for that day... I just dont see anything else happening with the captivate besides froyo.