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Repeating keys

Starting a couple of days ago, the hardware keyboard on my Fuze started randomly repeating keys: I'll be typing along and suddenly a character will insert itself a number of times. It seems to happen once every 30-50 keystrokes on average.
I'd write it off as a busted keyboard and take it back to the store for an exchange, but it doesn't feel like a hardware issue. For one thing, whatever key it is always repeats 6, 7, or 8 times. Keyswitch bounces in my experience generally insert fewer spurious characters than that. For another thing, there's no pattern that I can discern to which keys repeat; a hardware problem usually affects one particular key or key grouping.
What I'm seeing looks more like the key release event is being delayed until after the long-press repeat processing takes over; then the release event fires within a fairly narrow timing window. If I watch the screen as I'm typing, I see exactly what I would see if I held the key down: I get one character, then after a short pause, I get 5-7 more of them. This started happening about the time I installed AE Buttons Plus; however, I've uninstalled that and the problem persists. (However, uninstalling often doesn't undo all the registry changes that were made, so AEBP could still be the culprit, I suppose.)
I'm probably going to hard reset tomorrow when I have some free time so I can play around some more with the GPS starting from a clean slate, and that will give me a chance to test whether AEBP is, in fact, responsible. In the meantime, does this sound at all familiar to anyone? Any suggestions for what I might look at in the registry?

A quick update on this: I have verified that AE Buttons Plus is, in fact, responsible for the repeating keys. I set the new key that was added for the PTT button to "Do not touch" in AEBP and soft reset. I have had no repeating keys since then.
I have emailed the author, describing the problem, but I haven't heard back from him yet. I'm hoping that he can either fix AEBP or suggest some workaround to prevent the repeating keys. The short_PTT.lnk/long_PTT.lnk solution recently presented here works fine, but it only gives two assignments, while AEBP can do three (or four, if you can live with the Home button doing the same thing as the single-press PTT button).
If I hear anything encouraging, I'll post again. Otherwise, people should use the shortcut approach for remapping the PTT button.

Fuze: adjust 4-way rocker sensitivity (going "back" constantly)?

New Fuze user and new user to WM in general. I like the device, but it's been a bit overwhelming trying to get things together and tweaking it.
My biggest gripe right now is the sensitivity of the 4 way directional pad. Up and down work pretty well, but left and right are tricky to hit and I usually wind up going home, canceling, or going back. It's quite frustrating and I'd much rather use the directional pad than peck on the touchscreen in many situations.
I'm a bit befuddled: is navigation via the directional pad touch sensitive or is it a physical button? Is there anyway to adjust the sensitivities or sensor zones/regions so as not to accidentally hit one of other hardware buttons?
Thanks.

Got the same issue. The up / down navigation works fine, but left and right is just horrible. It would almost be better if you could use the touch sensitive part, rather than having to press the buttons fully down.

yup its a problem on all i think

lbhocky19 said:
yup its a problem on all i think
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Wow, how did this get pass R&D and QA? The lack of responsive and accurate left/right keys is abysmal (makes me unable to use Calendar). I sure hope there will be some remedy ....

Yeah, I agree, the d-pad is sorely lacking. It seems to be getting a little easier as I get accustomed to it, but the d-pad from my 8525 was much better.

I agree 100%. And like vexingv said, this is particularly annoying in the calendar application. The D pad on my 8525 was far easier to use.

And all this time i thought i just kept messing up. I have the same problem also.

calendar is where the problem really does shine

This is the WORST part about this new phone redesign. It's almost as if MARKETING came up with this idea than actual engineers.
I wonder if we can just cut the surface so we get the d-pad left-right back and so it's not shared with other buttons.
Thanks a lot HTC! You now have THREE buttons that do the same thing instead of 2 last time on the Kaiser:
Home goes back to Home
Back (formerly OK), goes back to home anyways
Hangup goes back to Home anyways already!
So hitting left or right you have 66% of it going straight back to HOME.
Then, you take away the scroll-wheel capability and replace it with rocker buttons for volume that only do that and nothing else.
Genius by HTC.

NuShrike said:
This is the WORST part about this new phone redesign. It's almost as if MARKETING came up with this idea than actual engineers.
I wonder if we can just cut the surface so we get the d-pad left-right back and so it's not shared with other buttons.
Thanks a lot HTC! You now have THREE buttons that do the same thing instead of 2 last time on the Kaiser:
Home goes back to Home
Back (formerly OK), goes back to home anyways
Hangup goes back to Home anyways already!
So hitting left or right you have 66% of it going straight back to HOME.
Then, you take away the scroll-wheel capability and replace it with rocker buttons for volume that only do that and nothing else.
Genius by HTC.
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Well, the scroll wheel does work, but its ability is to zoom/decrease the text size, which for most intents and purposes is a waste.
For clarification, is the directional rocker currently touch-sensitive or is there a physical button that is being depressed (albeit poorly).
If this keeps up, how about mapping some of the other 4 hardware buttons to provide some L/R functionality?

Okay guys. Here is the weird crazy part. I had the same problem, I just flashed the original stock att rom back (Well, tried to freeze in the middle to return ) but I had the att rom on it, I tried to re-install via the microSD card, and after it went through all the customization, I was so suprised that the left and right were working, it blew me away. I was like, "wdf? Is this the same phone." I have no idea what happened, but they seem more responsive. No tricks. At first I thought it was just me, but I started to use it more and more and it was working much better than before. No idea what fixed it, but I'm a happy camper

Here's some pictures of a guy who dropped it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2904011&postcount=1
Looks like distinct buttons. We just need to keep the face plate from sharing the presses.

Stock rom here... Moving 'left' seems to work okay but 'right' either hits Call End or Back. And here I thought I was doing something wrong.

NuShrike said:
Here's some pictures of a guy who dropped it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2904011&postcount=1
Looks like distinct buttons. We just need to keep the face plate from sharing the presses.
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Seriously! Whose idea was it to make all those buttons into 1 face plate! stupid idiot designer. At least they could've separated the d-pad somehow, maybe a very precise circle.

Yeah with the new excitement with touch interfaces, HTC seemed to have left their minds/brains elsewhere. But judging from the pictures in the linked thread above, it seems like none of the 4 directions have physical buttons.

Count me in on this problem...
For the Calendar I just open the keyboard and use that D-pad on the bottom right.
SOLUTIONS...
I propose someone should create software to do 1 of 2 things:
1) Use the G-sensor to control scrolling. This function would be activated by touching, not pressing/clicking, the center of D-pad. Similar to how you focus the camera. This action would activate the software thus allowing scrolling in all 4 directions by tilting the device.
2) Change the input so we only have to Touch the D-pad (like how we zoom in on pictures/Opera) to move in the desired direction.
So who's up to the challenge of developing some software to make this happen? I will gladly donate $$$ as the D-pad is the ONLY thing I dislike about the Fuze/Touch Pro.

it took me 10 days to realize how to left and right buttons work (sprint).

Hmm...maybe the designers/engineers meant for BOTH hardware buttons on either side to be depressed nearly simultaneously in order to register navigation to either the left or right?
Eg.: Placing the tip of my right thumb parallel with the end the bottom of the phone between the two hardware buttons (farther away from the D-pad than one normally would) such that both buttons depressed, I was able to get much better accuracy navigating to the right. Can get the same response on the left side, but it's not as feasible due to the awkward positioning of the hands/fingers.

I got tired of this problem before so I used G-controller. It works.
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The buttons are both touch-sensitive and physical buttons. The problem is if your thumb is touching any of the big buttons, it will prefer that over the directional click. Add to that the fact that the area the phone considers to be part of the non-directional buttons is much bigger than what it considers to be the directional buttons and it is a problem.
I wish people would stop following Steve Jobs's design ideas. Fewer buttons does not a better product make.

Problem with TP2 camera

I recently upgraded to a Touch Pro 2 from a Mogul, massive improvement (other than the lack of hardware keys). So I was a little worried when first using the camera, but the interface quickly grew on me. After installing everything I had on the Mogul, and a few other things that weren't previously supported, I went to snap a quick picture. But for some reason I now have to press and HOLD the shutter button for about 2 or 3 seconds while it auto-focuses then finally takes the picture. For the last week or two (since I've had the phone) I just tapped the button and it focused and took the picture, and was a lot quicker.
I've gone through all of the new cabs I've installed and looked for changes to the camera's registry settings, but found nothing (other than the enabling of the extra modes).
I've also tried changing the Key Delay settings in Advanced Config. Normally I find solutions to any problems I encounter by searching the xda forums, but this time all I'm coming up with is TP2 camera reviews, and stuff about the TP Shoot Options (which are related to the TP's hw button, I'm guessing?).
It's not a huge problem, I mean everything still works as it should. It's just kind of annoying having to hold the button and wait. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

I forgot to add, pressing the Enter key on the hardware keyboard still has the desired effect. It's just something with the on screen shutter button.

I'm sorry I can't provide a reply to solve your problem, but I think you might get more/better feedback if you post here.

Thanks for the suggestion =)
The reason I posted here instead of the TP2 forum is because I assumed this wasn't a specific TP2 related issue, rather a WinMo issue (if it is in fact a registry fix). But I will post there also, and hope for more feed back.

Question about the sensor of touch pro

As i know that touch pro is not only can be touched on the screen but also the hard button area ( home, back, call, hang up buttons)
How can i use that feature
Which software that i need to install or how can i active it
Thank for reading my topic

What do you want exactly? Do you want to remap hardware buttons?

the hardware buttons are enabled by default. you don't have to 'activate' them.

No! My point is how can i use the sensor of hardware button ^^

Well,did you mean to use the capacitive surface of those sensors,not the buttons itself? And what exactly do you want? Please explain.

google for "G-scroll"

TomasNM said:
Well,did you mean to use the capacitive surface of those sensors,not the buttons itself? And what exactly do you want? Please explain.
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My point is
Instead of pushing down the 4 hard buttons (call, back, home, hang off) i just need to touch it on the surface?

You can buy gscroll (mobilesrc.com), but unless you can get the 1.x series, I'd pass. The 2.x series is buggy as hell, and it seems like development has stopped. There are some free apps you can find around here as well. I'm thinking Dredscroll is one, and there was another app called Butler (I think, lol) that allowed you to use it as a launcher with gestures on the area. Gscroll lets you swipe to scroll (it's good for reading ebooks, when it's working) as well as to launch things, but it has the annoying habit of going on smoking breaks.

As I know HTC testing software,I can say,it could not be a problem to create an app of this kind,but...
- Do we have SDK for it(I didin't searched for it yet)?
- Currently I don't know,how to send keyboard hooks to the system
- I cannot prevent/disable default keyboard hooks
So that means,I am not able to solve your puzzle. Sorry.
That was my honest opinion...

I don't think he's asking about the Vibrant-Scroll Wheel, I think he's talking about the Optical Track, itself.
[As the Home, Back, Answer, & End Call buttons require you to actually PUSH them down.]
You know, the "OK/Enter" button. When you place you finger on it [NOT PRESS IT], by default, it lights up the Bottom Hardware Keys, as well as brightens the screen.
If it's not working for you, I recommend Backing up your Important Information with either SPB Backup or Microsoft MyPhone, and flashing a New ROM. There are certain Drivers that control the Optical Track. What they are, however, is beyond me.

home button not working??

hey guys, i noticed today that sometimes when i press the home button to wake the phone it doesnt react...when i press it again it works normally....this happened to me two times....did anyone see this?

That sounds like a hardware issue. The home button synthesize sensor must not be recognizing the pressure you are applying to the button. Did this happen after a software update?

I'm having the same issue with the home button being super spotty and straight not registering when I push the home button. This is super irritating. I constantly have to press the button and sit like an idiot while it does nothing, then press again.

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That sounds like a hardware issue. The home button synthesize sensor must not be recognizing the pressure you are applying to the button. Did this happen after a software update?
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i only noticed this today...and yes 2 days ago i have done an OTA update....

I have a Verizon version running 5.0.2

i tried now to see if this is happening when i am pressing the sides of the home button...and yes...it looks like sometimes i press the sides thats why it doesnt work....but the thing is my home button is a bit loose...so its easy to hit the sides...

I had the S4 and the Note 3. Never had a problem. If I press the button and it clicks it should work.

hajyihia said:
i only noticed this today...and yes 2 days ago i have done an OTA update....
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Hmm that could be a number of things. It could be the hardware. It could be the update that you've installed that is causing wake lock on the device. Since your phone is covered by the one year limited warranty, I think you should contact Samsung and request an exchange/replacement. You can, however, try a factory reset to see if the wake lock problem goes away.

Ok I've been able to replicate the problem 100% if I choose. It is most definitely a hardware problem. If the home button is pressed on the left corner of the button it fully depresses and even clicks. But it doesn't register as so.

Definitely a hardware issue.
My phone had this issue as well where it wouldnt register soft clicks or off center taps and I would regularly get missed presses when using the phone (unless I pressed the button hard). I had verizon send me a replacement. The new phone just showed up, and the home button works almost perfectly. I can still get it to not register if I try really hard to push extremely lightly, on the very edge of the button with my finger nail, but its easily 100x better than the previous one.
The new button is also almost silent while the old one made kind of a cheap plastic click sound like it rattled slightly. It also feels like it requires a tad less force to press than the old button. The old button I could easily recreate the issue 100% of the time by just pressing lightly or pressing off center and it would regularly bother me while using the phone.

Buttons don't work
Front buttons stops working, then i reset phone they work some time and again stoped everything else work fine.
I have warratny but from shop they sadi that buttons working i don't now what to do pls for help.

Krizatata said:
Front buttons stops working, then i reset phone they work some time and again stoped everything else work fine.
I have warratny but from shop they sadi that buttons working i don't now what to do pls for help.
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Here is a "solution" that has worked for me. My S6 is the Verizon variant, but I think these steps will work on any Service Provider.
Settings > Accessibility > Dexterity and interaction > Assistant menu
From here, toggle the switch to "ON". This will create a hovering circle with a window with four panes inside it. If you interactive with the hovering circle it will open a new window in which you have access to the back and recent apps buttons via an onscreen button.
Not sure what has disabled the hardware buttons, but this should give you access via onscreen software.
I know it's not a true fix, but a work around.
If someone finds a true fix, please post it! But in the meantime ...
I hope this helps!

Hello,
I had a S6 and after 4 days I noticed loose home button: it made noise the tap on it (not press). And also didn't registered clicks on the left side.
I exchange it for another and this one is almost perfect. I notice the left side of the butto to be a bit pressed. Anyway, I suspect a harware issue.
Lollipop 5.1.1

This video worked for my GS6
hajyihia said:
hey guys, i noticed today that sometimes when i press the home button to wake the phone it doesnt react...when i press it again it works normally....this happened to me two times....did anyone see this?
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My home button stopped working all together right after an update. How can I remove this issue? Every thing else works perfectly. Please help!

I have issues with my home button as well, it's "loose" and rattling. It has always been a bit loose but the last few months it has gotten worse and worse, it started to require more and more pressure to register the press (way beyond the pressure needed for it to *click*). As of now it does not even work at all, no matter how hard I try pressing it.
I've tried the assistant menu that's mentioned here in the thread but I just find the menu annoying. Instead I have learned to live with it for the time being, I just multitask to instagram or facebook and then spam the back button until I'm back at home.
100% hardware issue.
Apparently it's possible to replace the home button, and there are replacement home button to buy from ebay, but the replacement procedure is ridiculuos. The home button is basically the last thing you will demount from the phone when disassembling it.
I found a temporary fix by dabbing the home button with Isopropyl, this made it like new again. But two days later it's back to as it was before, or maybe even worse.
Annoying as hell, especially since this is a result of poor quality control from Samsung.
Update: Found a nice little app on play store called "button remapper" which lets me rebind the default system buttons without requiring root, i have rebinded the "recent apps" button to act as a home button instead, and a long press opens the regular "recent apps". Seems to be an alright workaround.

Just go to samsung shop,let them see,if no exchange or replace or fix, take their demo phones like s8 (2017) throw on to the floor and then take any phone u want, leave the s6 phone alone (make sure it is factory reseted).Ran away and shout #ALLAHUAKBAR!