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Hey guys i found today these batteries and watched the review of them by droiddog
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/05/nexus-one-extended-battery-reviewgiveaway/
and i am very interested in buying one of these. i am currently getting 1-2 days of medium use and i day of full use with my desire and i am excited with more life. Actually the 1600mha seems nice addition without any bulk added (if it adds 5-10 hours) but the 3200mha is VERY usefull for trips or journeys without charger.
Did any of you tried these batteries ???? i heard that seido are not good but since droiddog recommended them i am into this A LOT.
Here are links to their pages:
Mugen Power 3200mah
Mugen Power 1600mah
i doubt anyone has tried the 3200mah in the desire as the battery cover will not fit
I had a Mugen extended battery for my Hero. IIRC it was 200mAh higher capacity than the original battery, so I expected around 10% to 15% better life from it. In practice though, it actually seemed marginally worse than the original HTC battery and certainly no better.
I've since found this site, and it very much mirrors my experience with Mugen batteries.
Regards,
Dave
Hmm, is there no other batteries to use to extend?
Pyr0x64 said:
i doubt anyone has tried the 3200mah in the desire as the battery cover will not fit
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if you saw the video they provide a cover that fits with the battery. and i thought that since the reviewer actually tells it DOES make difference i found it an opportunity.,
my bad, i looked at the droiddog link and and not the mugen ones...
i saw "nexus one" and assumed you had linked to the same battery, sorry
Does seem like a good idea to me, review was nice, and i agree with the guy, having that back on would make it feel better in your hand.
But theyl never do a case like the back for the desire will they?
As the n1 bottom bit on the back isnt removable so it makes it easier, where is desire they would have to do a whole new back plate.
Phil750123 said:
Does seem like a good idea to me, review was nice, and i agree with the guy, having that back on would make it feel better in your hand.
But theyl never do a case like the back for the desire will they?
As the n1 bottom bit on the back isnt removable so it makes it easier, where is desire they would have to do a whole new back plate.
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Uhh the battery Mugen are selling comes with a new back plate for the Desire.
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...8181-with-battery-cover-in-brown-3200mah.html
What it will be like, who knows.
Those batteries are scam.
There is a photo of what is inside.. two 1200mah batteries.. lol!
http://www.fuzemobility.com/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/
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Those batteries are scam.
There is a photo of what is inside.. two 1200mah batteries.. lol!
http://www.fuzemobility.com/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/
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Is it true?
http://batteryboss.org/
These batteries are not scam. I don't know where you get this guys?
I use the one for Desire, they've been reviewed in many places already and this guy from batteryboss is ridiculous in his testing cuz he got those batteries from ebay and thinks it's really Mugen Power. Mugen comes from Hongkong and has only one good reseller. Many batteries like other accessories are scam, so you just need to know where to order them.
I don't know about the 1600 one, but I've owned the Mugen 3200 for over a month now, and it has literally doubled my battery life.
You quickly get used to the extra bulge and weight, and it becomes a non-issue.
I ordered this one:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/catalog/product/view/id/605/
using mugen 3200 since 2 months, almost doubled battery life...
usually unplug phone around 8, i arrive at midnight with around 60% using facebook, bluetooth, music, market, gps, some calls and sms, google reader and browser... data connection always on, wi-fi sometimes...
the only regret is not having a rubber protection case, just the plastic one they give you with battery and backcover...
Just buy a rubber case and cut it to fit the bigger back.
Btw the mugen is good but the back cover is abit fragile. Open and close it too much and the tabs WILL break. Mines currently stuck on with a bit of blutak
tekhop said:
using mugen 3200 since 2 months, almost doubled battery life...
usually unplug phone around 8, i arrive at midnight with around 60% using facebook, bluetooth, music, market, gps, some calls and sms, google reader and browser... data connection always on, wi-fi sometimes...
the only regret is not having a rubber protection case, just the plastic one they give you with battery and backcover...
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http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/bacy30ssepc-bk.htm
Still say's under development, but man the thing is fugly IMHO. I am defiantly going to get one from ebay, and why only 3000 mah.
http://cgi.ebay.com/3500mAh-Extende...Accessories&hash=item3cb2c4bb14#ht_4129wt_916
I prefer this back the most. Just so it's entirely even.
why only 3000 mah.
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From what I've seen, Seidio's "3000 mAH" probably has more real capacity than the eBay "3500 mAH" batteries. Seidio's ratings are a little more conservative than most.
The problem is that the battery life you and I will see is determined by both capacity AND the battery's ability to deal with high loads. A lithium battery can supply more total milliamperes for more hours if you're drawing a tiny load than if you're sucking down power like there's no tomorrow. Two batteries that seem to allow you to draw "3500mAH" when you're drawing 1mA might appear to be very, very different when you jack the load up to 100mA, and one that's nominally smaller might actually last 10-25% longer than the larger battery at the higher load.
Right now, there really isn't any good, objective, tamper-proof and relevant standard for rating batteries. It's kind of like the way cheap amplifiers get rated as "PMPO", and expensive amplifiers get rated as "RMS, at X% THD". Even a single-chip amp can probably output 500 watts of power for a millisecond at 100% THD before the chip melts, but an amp that can output 500 watts at .1% THD all afternoon is going to cost quite a bit more money. What's missing from the battery industry spec is the "load" part of the equation that tells you how much current was being drawn when that rating was determined.
Oh, also... I might be imagining things, but it looks like they might have actually liked my idea of making the top layer of the battery overflow the stock battery's footprint to squeeze in a bit more battery capacity in the same thickness
on sale now... 69.99
This will make the phone .86" thick, compared to the stock .55". I had the sedio 3500mah on my incredible which made it .7" thick and that wasn't a problem. I'd love to see some feedback on just how huge a .86" phone feels in your pocket, the picture makes it look gigantic.
Can't testify to any actual dimensions, but I do know that I saw a guy with a Seidio battery on his EVO and to me, it actually felt better with the extra size and weight from the battery. It didn't make his EVO seem extra bulky or anything like that, and I think that should be the case with this battery for the Epic.
I want to get this battery, but 2 major things are stopping me:
1. The price is $70. Hrm...between the cheaper extended battery options and the cheaper spare batteries, it's hard to justify $70 for the Seidio battery, especially if the other cheaper batteries seem to last long enough.
2. There's no case for the back - this is the more important reason for me...I can get over the cost of the battery if it's worth it, but how do you protect the back of this thing? And if I leave the top half of my case on, then my phone will look extra ugly and ghetto. They need to make a case and/or more rugged battery cover for those of us that don't want to carry our phones fully or half naked.
IMO a real man lets his phone go naked.
Seriously, I've never used a case for any smartphone. Never had a problem either. But I do carry TEP on every device.
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Can't testify to any actual dimensions, but I do know that I saw a guy with a Seidio battery on his EVO and to me, it actually felt better with the extra size and weight from the battery. It didn't make his EVO seem extra bulky or anything like that, and I think that should be the case with this battery for the Epic.
I want to get this battery, but 2 major things are stopping me:
1. The price is $70. Hrm...between the cheaper extended battery options and the cheaper spare batteries, it's hard to justify $70 for the Seidio battery, especially if the other cheaper batteries seem to last long enough.
2. There's no case for the back - this is the more important reason for me...I can get over the cost of the battery if it's worth it, but how do you protect the back of this thing? And if I leave the top half of my case on, then my phone will look extra ugly and ghetto. They need to make a case and/or more rugged battery cover for those of us that don't want to carry our phones fully or half naked.
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To address your issues:
1) The price is $56 with 20% off coupon code "XMAS20" (without the quotes). I think that's very reasonable, especially when you consider the stock battery with charger is $50 from Sprint.
2) Seidio always end up making cases for their extended battery backs. The back to this unit is best looking one I've seen out of the extended batteries thus far, and give it a month or so and I'm sure there'll be a case you can purchase as well. I personally prefer leaving my phone naked
...yes, I did just order one. $56 well spent, I say - but we'll leave the final decision for when I actually get it and put it through proper use.
Please test the battery to figure out the real world mAh from the battery. I am very interested. If its anything like other Seido extended batteries, I expect it to be around 2450 mAh in reality.
Any input?
brianbrain said:
To address your issues:
1) The price is $56 with 20% off coupon code "XMAS20" (without the quotes). I think that's very reasonable, especially when you consider the stock battery with charger is $50 from Sprint.
2) Seidio always end up making cases for their extended battery backs. The back to this unit is best looking one I've seen out of the extended batteries thus far, and give it a month or so and I'm sure there'll be a case you can purchase as well. I personally prefer leaving my phone naked
...yes, I did just order one. $56 well spent, I say - but we'll leave the final decision for when I actually get it and put it through proper use.
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Well you've sold me...if they come out with a decently priced battery+case combo, then I'll definitely go for the Seidio option. As far as I see, none of the other extended batteries have any case options.
brianbrain said:
To address your issues:
1) The price is $56 with 20% off coupon code "XMAS20" (without the quotes). I think that's very reasonable, especially when you consider the stock battery with charger is $50 from Sprint.
2) Seidio always end up making cases for their extended battery backs. The back to this unit is best looking one I've seen out of the extended batteries thus far, and give it a month or so and I'm sure there'll be a case you can purchase as well. I personally prefer leaving my phone naked
...yes, I did just order one. $56 well spent, I say - but we'll leave the final decision for when I actually get it and put it through proper use.
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I just ordered the extended battery and the separate battery charger. Thanks for the Coupon Code. As far as Seidio making cases for their extended battery backs, I've found this isn't the case at all. I bought the extended battery for the Treo 800w and also the HTC Hero and they never came out with an Innocase or anything else, for that matter, for either, although they said they would.
Another option that I've used for the Seidio extended battery is www.mobilecity.com. They had the Hero battery for $20 less than Seidioonline. Right now they list the Epic battery for $59, but the Coupon Code beats that price right now. As of today they don't have it in stock yet. http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=26868
Just add a kickstand and im sold!
Does anyone have the Seidio extended battery? If so could someone post pictures of the thickness? I'm interested in the seidio battery because i don't like just having 1 hump on the battery case like the 2800 extended battery available on ebay. Plus seidio is known to have awesome extended batteries. If the phone is given a horrible thickness i'd totally buy it. Anyone with the 2800 have a hard time texting or using the game gripper for playing roms? Is it comfortable?
juanaraya92679 said:
Does anyone have the Seidio extended battery? If so could someone post pictures of the thickness? I'm interested in the seidio battery because i don't like just having 1 hump on the battery case like the 2800 extended battery available on ebay. Plus seidio is known to have awesome extended batteries. If the phone is given a horrible thickness i'd totally buy it. Anyone with the 2800 have a hard time texting or using the game gripper for playing roms? Is it comfortable?
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Going off a rough measurement its barely thicker then an Epic with a Seidio Innocase on (about the thickness of a quarter).
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Anyone with the 2800 have a hard time texting or using the game gripper for playing roms? Is it comfortable?
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I have the 2800 one. It is fine for texting. It definitely adds to the weight of the phone. I don't have the game gripper, but I can still play the racing games just fine. Well, I haven't gotten very far in the game, but I chalk that up to my poor gaming skills to begin with.
Are there any facts that show the cheaper 2800-3000 batteries on ebay are not as good seidio's batteries??? I don't wan to buy something cheap that doesn't last very long.
There is not that I know of. Seido might last a few more charge cycles, but the 3500 mAh battery that I bought and tested here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=864638
is the same thickness, has a true mAh rating around 2800-2900 mAh and works perfectly well with the game gripper. You can also buy these batteries for 12 dollars shipped, so even with the Seido coupon you could have 5 of the 3500 mAh batteries for the same price. And the Seido battery isn't going to have 5 times the cycles than the 3500 mAh ones.
Also, this Seido battery will have a real life rating of around 2400 mAh, if its anything like previous Seido extended batteries.
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muyoso said:
There is not that I know of. Seido might last a few more charge cycles, but the 3500 mAh battery that I bought and tested here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=864638
is the same thickness, has a true mAh rating around 2800-2900 mAh and works perfectly well with the game gripper. You can also buy these batteries for 12 dollars shipped, so even with the Seido coupon you could have 5 of the 3500 mAh batteries for the same price. And the Seido battery isn't going to have 5 times the cycles than the 3500 mAh ones.
Also, this Seido battery will have a real life rating of around 2400 mAh, if its anything like previous Seido extended batteries.
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Based off cosmetics do you think it would be more comfortable having the entire case thicker like the seidio battery case? or is the 3500 mah comfortable enough? Also does it feel odd in your pocket? This is a hard decision for me. Maybe its just me but I like buying the good brand because of the name but the cosmetics of the seidio just look nicer to me than the one you have. This is a tough decision. I understand the battery life but now its all up to looks and feel. hmm.
What is the best highest capacity extended life battery for Sensation? Among those of the standard size? Among those that replace the back cover to use a larger or thicker battery?
Thanks
i have the anker 1900mah and it works great i get about 9 hours of heavy use as opposed to the 4 i was getting on stock. i havnt tryed the bigger ones as changing the battery cover would probably mean problems just my view
If you don't mind having a nice thick case, get Powerskin.
Does anker make a bigger battery than a1900 mah?
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I believe 1900 mAh is the biggest one Anker makes. If you want a bigger capacity, you'll have to go with a different brand.
Mesaman2012 said:
Does anker make a bigger battery than a1900 mah?
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yeah just check on ianker dot com and they only go up to 1900 the only thing is that IMO anker seems to be the only legitimate line that actually delivery the performance that it states theres a "2450" gold battery made from china that is false advertizing but i would go with anker its the better of them al IMO
the 1900mah is the only stock sized battery anker makes. the evo 3d uses the same style battery, and you can see there are higher capacity units available. I thought there was a double capacity 3800mah one but can't find it. Must have been mistaken. Of course the larger batteries would require a larger aftermarket housing.
The larger capacity batteries don't scale with price linearly unfortunately.
If you don't mind the bulk, you could get http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-EXTENDE...ltDomain_0&hash=item460436a316#ht_3144wt_1163 and two anker 1900mahs.
That's the Mugen cover. It's definitely not close at all in quality compared to the oem htc unit, but for the price, it's good enough, and I'm not going to worry about scratching it up without a case for it.
Tape two ankers together and solder together the + and - leads on the batteries and enjoy. Or two xe 1730mah batteries if you prefer oem.
There's quite a bit of extra space between the sim/sdcard and cover. Maybe you could rig something up in there like a powermat induction charger piece. Or stash your emergency cash in there (although if you get mugged, your phone's gone, so you better stick to the bottom of your sole in your shoes still).
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the 1900mah is the only stock sized battery anker makes. the evo 3d uses the same style battery, and you can see there are higher capacity units available. I thought there was a double capacity 3800mah one but can't find it. Must have been mistaken. Of course the larger batteries would require a larger aftermarket housing.
The larger capacity batteries don't scale with price linearly unfortunately.
If you don't mind the bulk, you could get http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-EXTENDE...ltDomain_0&hash=item460436a316#ht_3144wt_1163 and two anker 1900mahs.
That's the Mugen cover. It's definitely not close at all in quality compared to the oem htc unit, but for the price, it's good enough, and I'm not going to worry about scratching it up without a case for it.
Tape two ankers together and solder together the + and - leads on the batteries and enjoy. Or two xe 1730mah batteries if you prefer oem.
There's quite a bit of extra space between the sim/sdcard and cover. Maybe you could rig something up in there like a powermat induction charger piece. Or stash your emergency cash in there (although if you get mugged, your phone's gone, so you better stick to the bottom of your sole in your shoes still).
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If he's gonna solder battery leads together, he'd better do it quick. I wouldn't want to apply 800 degrees F heat to a battery for any longer than I absolutely need to.
Mugen made a pretty big one, but it requires you to change the back cover: http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...ery-for-htc-sensation-with-battery-door.html#
I am considering an extended battery for the S4 because mine doesn't last me through the day with my current use. I know that the 5200 mAh from Hyperion is as thick as 2 batteries combined and the Zerolemon 7500 mAh is three batteries, but not all stacked up but rather in a shape of a pyramid. So the thickness would be the same?
I know they are both bulky, but I was wondering if the 5200 would be thinner?
Or if they would be add the same amount of thickness to the phone?
Is they are both the same thickness, the clear winner is the ZL.
Thanks!
I can't comment on the batteries for the S4, but I have one friend who has the Hyperion Battery and one that has the ZL Battery for the GS3, tthe ZL battery is quite a bit thicker, but it is a pretty sweet battery.
I'd say buy both and send back the one you aren't going to use.
This is something I would like to know 2. I just bought the 5200ma from hyperion dreading it because I thought it would be so uncomfortable to use, but it's actually not bad at all. The charge is great too.
If the ZL is only a bit thicker than the 5200ma then I will sell this one and buy the ZL. If anyone with the ZL can get the thickness of the phone and battery on. That would be awesome.
I'll post a pic with the dimensions of the phone + battery (5200ma) with a caliper tomorrow when I get to work
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This is something I would like to know 2. I just bought the 5200ma from hyperion dreading it because I thought it would be so uncomfortable to use, but it's actually not bad at all. The charge is great too.
If the ZL is only a bit thicker than the 5200ma then I will sell this one and buy the ZL. If anyone with the ZL can get the thickness of the phone and battery on. That would be awesome.
I'll post a pic with the dimensions of the phone + battery (5200ma) with a caliper tomorrow when I get to work
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With ZL 7500mAh battery + casing on the phone dimensions are:
thickness is 18mm
width is 75mm
height is 146mm
I just used an onscreen ruler to take measurements but i'm pretty sure it's accurate.
Got the 5200mAh Hyperion coming with the extra nicer case tomorrow, I can try to post back with some better pics then the last reviewer. Otherwise he made a great review.
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ZeroLemon 7500mah uses 2 batteries - one the size of OEM and one longer and wider than one that sits on top of the first one. It's an ingenious design.
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ZeroLemon 7500mah uses 2 batteries - one the size of OEM and one longer and wider than one that sits on top of the first one. It's an ingenious design.
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Agreed, if you can fit it in your pocket.... :what: but it'll be nice to have for long trips on the motorcycle.
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The 5200 Hyperion on the phone measures at 14.2mm thick. Height and height don't change
So the ZL is not much bigger than the 5200
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So I'm guessing from some of the replies that the 7500 isn't that much thicker than the 5200? maybe a 4-5mm difference? If someone could post pictures of a comparison between the two, that would be great. I'm sure not alot of people have both since people with 7500 have no reason to go down to 5200. But if someone with a 7500 and someone with a 5200 could post a picture of the thickness and then I might be to able to combine the two to make it easier to see a direct side by side comparison and I would post the picture of the side by side back to this forum for everyone to see. Thanks for the replies so far!
So how is both battery's quality! It like OEM
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any result or pics available yet? Actually I want to get a 7500 mAh battery as sell, where do u find it
I'll post some pictures of my 5200 later on today. I don't have a 7200 but I'm definitely getting one after finding out its only 4mm thicker.
Battery life is really good on the 5200. Pretty much double stock. For me it's barely enough for what I need so the 7200 will be more than enough. Awesome.
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I have and recommend both, but the charge in the Zerolemon battery seems to last a good three or four days.
if yas want a battery that is so hard to kill in a day i highly suggest getting the ZL! i love it...im going to paint the white casing soon though as it collects grime and looks dirty!! its amazing what comes off your clean hands. I am pulling 12-13hrs of onscreen time per full charge at the moment with moderate use and i play racing games etc for a few hours plus use chat apps with wifi on and general news reading apps..its just amazing...and its just getting better.
i cant switch to a lower size battery ever again.
even when the battery is down to 10percent youre safe to go out for the night and still know u wont kill the battery for atleast another 2hrs of onscreen time or more..its just crazy.
Edite: It also fits nicely in my work shirt top pocket buttoned up and i dont even notice the weight of it. Shame i dont have scales...hey now theres an idea for the next gen phones..they should put a scale under the screen for people to weigh things in grams haha...anyway ZL ALL THE WAY!!
20% battery left ...i think i will still easily get 3hrs of onscreen time...its just getting better and better the more times i run it dead than recharge. only recharged it from dead to full 3 times in 9 days since getting it.
I'm on my first full discharge on the Zero Lemon 7500mAh battery after having it plugged in for 12 hours as they suggest when you first get it, and so far I'm down to 46% after 1 day, 4 and a half hours, with 5 and a half hours screen time.
Just got my Hyperion 5200 battery with shiny black cover and also got the matching case from them that fits this combo. Now this thing finally feels like a phone. Factory is just too skinny for me.
Very much like this combo.
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I have both Onite and Anker 5200 batteries (they're identical) and a ZeroLemon 7500 battery. In real life practice, the ZL batter + case isn't significantly thicker at all...but it's much heavier. I use either of the 5200 batts for daily use, the ZL 7500 for when I know I'm going to be without a charger for awhile (camping, exploring a new city where I use GPS and full brightness all the time), and the stock batt when size and weight are a priority (going out at night).
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I have both Onite and Anker 5200 batteries (they're identical) and a ZeroLemon 7500 battery. In real life practice, the ZL batter + case isn't significantly thicker at all...but it's much heavier. I use either of the 5200 batts for daily use, the ZL 7500 for when I know I'm going to be without a charger for awhile (camping, exploring a new city where I use GPS and full brightness all the time), and the stock batt when size and weight are a priority (going out at night).
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the protection from the ZL case is much better than the hyperion TPU for the extended case.
Personally, I'd stick to stock and ZL and just keep the 4500/5200 mah batteries out of the loop.
If you have a otterbox defender like myself and it's a pain to change batteries, you find yourself sticking to zero lemon exclusively.
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Any loss of signal with the ZL?
I want t get the ZL 7500 one and use it for trips or days I won't be near a charger at all.
now that you had your battery for a while, what are your 2 cent for every day use?