help with limitations of ext partitions on sd card - General Questions and Answers

hey well i was hoping if anyone can help me with this i would be most gratefull ive installed a couple roms before s-off ect ive downloaded the files for StarBurst rom and i no how to install
but when it comes to apps2sd+ or data2ext mostly what ive seen are people saying choose whatever partition size you like but then to contradict it usually later on pages into the forum you find the same people saying only format it with 2gb no more then that or other amounts or different swap file sizes
so i guess what im asking is there a set limit to how much different roms can use for the ext partition without it affecting performance obviously if people suggest a certain filesize and no more it would make me think theres a pros cons basis to exceeding certain ext filesizes i have looked around for an answer i never find a direct one addressing this
i have a sandisk 32gb micro sd so if i wanted a 5 gb ext or 10 gb i have more then enough space to do so
thanks for any help in this matter

Demonic Wraith said:
hey well i was hoping if anyone can help me with this i would be most gratefull ive installed a couple roms before s-off ect ive downloaded the files for StarBurst rom and i no how to install
but when it comes to apps2sd+ or data2ext mostly what ive seen are people saying choose whatever partition size you like but then to contradict it usually later on pages into the forum you find the same people saying only format it with 2gb no more then that or other amounts or different swap file sizes
so i guess what im asking is there a set limit to how much different roms can use for the ext partition without it affecting performance obviously if people suggest a certain filesize and no more it would make me think theres a pros cons basis to exceeding certain ext filesizes i have looked around for an answer i never find a direct one addressing this
i have a sandisk 32gb micro sd so if i wanted a 5 gb ext or 10 gb i have more then enough space to do so
thanks for any help in this matter
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Think there are talking about internal sd card with ext (linux fs partitons) but not about ext (external sd card) with fat32 and ext file system ...
and cherry on the cake ... ext4 partition on external sd card can't be use by android :

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APPS2SD Performance - Noob

Hey all! New to Android (but not cooked roms - winmo mostly). Have noticed that my MT3G is running REALLY SLOW fairly frequently (despite killing apps quite a bit). I'm running Cyanogen's 4.2.2 with APP2SD (ext3 partition). I believe APP2SD may be the culprit but I am not sure. Need a bit of help understanding how this works? Does it create a swapfile + storage for apps, or is it storage only? Any help is appreciated!
do you have a class 8 micro sd card? and do you also have the 32mb linux swap partition along with the ext3?
It is not a class 8, I think it is a class 6 if I am not mistaken I can check (possibly a 4 but definitely not less than 4). The swapfile partition, it is an ext3.
musclendabx said:
Hey all! New to Android (but not cooked roms - winmo mostly). Have noticed that my MT3G is running REALLY SLOW fairly frequently (despite killing apps quite a bit). I'm running Cyanogen's 4.2.2 with APP2SD (ext3 partition). I believe APP2SD may be the culprit but I am not sure. Need a bit of help understanding how this works? Does it create a swapfile + storage for apps, or is it storage only? Any help is appreciated!
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You really don't need a2sd on the mt3g since it has plenty of internal memory. However, a2sd shouldn't be the cause of your slowdown as a class 6 sdcard is faster than the internal flash.
If you're looking for speed, you may want to try my ROM, which doesn't use a2sd for the mt3g by default, and is pretty much the fastest android ROM on the planet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566676
dwang said:
You really don't need a2sd on the mt3g since it has plenty of internal memory. However, a2sd shouldn't be the cause of your slowdown as a class 6 sdcard is faster than the internal flash.
If you're looking for speed, you may want to try my ROM, which doesn't use a2sd for the mt3g by default, and is pretty much the fastest android ROM on the planet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566676
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or.......
If you like the Hero/Sense UI.......
dwang said:
You really don't need a2sd on the mt3g since it has plenty of internal memory. However, a2sd shouldn't be the cause of your slowdown as a class 6 sdcard is faster than the internal flash.
If you're looking for speed, you may want to try my ROM, which doesn't use a2sd for the mt3g by default, and is pretty much the fastest android ROM on the planet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566676
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First of all thanks Dwang for cooking that rom *very appreciated*.
AFA the SD card, I checked and could not tell, it could be a class 2 actually (it is the stock card that came with it, and the only thing on it is a large C with a 2 inside of it so I am assuming it is a class 2). So maybe that is the culprit (my Gold Card is actually a class 6).
If a class 6 (or class 8) is faster than the internal memory, would I benefit from having a swap file on a faster card rather than running off the internal memory?
I was tempted to use the Sense UI roms but I was reading than they are considerably slower. Don't care about eye candy as much as speed and functionality. Based on that would the sense UI still be useful to me?
Again, thanks so much for this Dwang (and for those who have taken the time to reply)
musclendabx said:
First of all thanks Dwang for cooking that rom *very appreciated*.
If a class 6 (or class 8) is faster than the internal memory, would I benefit from having a swap file on a faster card rather than running off the internal memory?
Again, thanks so much for this Dwang (and for those who have taken the time to reply)
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If you are using my ROM, then it doesn't implement swap on the sdcard. It implements compcache which is a compressed swap in RAM (this is not internal flash, two different things). In my testing I have found it faster than using a swap partition on the sdcard (others may disagree).
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or.......
If you like the Hero/Sense UI.......
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Or, looks like the Evil deed just got rejected by noob... Dwang wins once again, yeah!
In all fairness eViL was just giving me other options and I wasn't too clear about preferring speed (I mist say the eye candy on the sense UI is soooo tempting but given the issues that I am having right now with my apps2sd, i'm a little shy to go that way). So before the noob gets dissed, figure I would set the record straight... now let the flaming wars begin... LOL

Question about partition size

I would like to ask as to what would be the optimal size for each partition size, especially for linux-swap. I've looked through many threads, and some have said that 32MB would be the best, but others say that the higher it is, the better. Could anyone help to clarify?
Thanks in advance!
usually around 500mb for the second partition, and either 32, 64, or 96 for the linux swap. depends on the hero rom lol.
Hmm alright then. Thanks! =D
what about swap partition VS swap file like on (droidswap)? I can't seem to hve droid swap automatically start up upon restart tho

I have 16 GB sdcard what is the size for A2SD

Hi i have 16GB sdcard class 2 what is the size of SWAP and EXT2 for A2SD ?
thanks
I chose 2GB Swap and 100MB Ext2 Runs like a (HTC) Dream!
Seriously, pick whatever suits you best or just search for what people recommend. There is no reason to start a new thread.
You won't need a swap and 1GB Ext2 would be more than sufficient.
you really should search before posting.
You should really read the rules before posting.
The rules would have told you that you should have searched.
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There is some discussion on this but imho...
1) I wouldn't use a class 2 card; full stop. Very slow card.
2) Don't use a swap -->
-->Android manages memory very well.
-->The desire has 576MB of RAM
-->Your SD card is only good for around 10,000 write cycles.
-->Writing to SD is fairly battery hungry. (see point 1 also)
3) EXT2/3/4 partition size is really a personal choice. Not much point in anything bigger than 2GB as the /data/data will remain on the phone and imho, in most cases, that would be getting close to full by the time you have 2 gigs of apps on your SD card anyway.
A two... gig swap? Jesus Christ.
0MB swap, 512MB EXT3 is probably more than you'll ever need.
To be fair, if you want things to be fast, leave it as ext2, there is no need for the journaling that ext3 has to offer, so its wasted read/write cycles for it tbh...
interesting. But why then are ext3 and ext4 even available ?!
Between ext2, ext3 and ext4, what is the best ?
2 = known entity, stable, simple. Used to be a 2GB limit but not sure now. This was in the early days of g1 rooting and I think it was a limitation of early Android releases.
3 = journaling support (unnecessary imo) no size limit. (in practical terms in this use)
4 = new, not well tested, possibly unstable, journaling, no size limit.
I reckon ext2 but I'm sure having posted this someone else will suggest a reason that 3 or 4 is better. Do some messing about. See if you can come up with any useful findings! I'm all ears!
have read someware that ext3 is more stable so the choise is with ext2 fast or ext3 stability imho.
i don't think you will notice the difference in speed, i prefere ext3
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kiokoman said:
have read someware that ext3 is more stable so the choise is with ext2 fast or ext3 stability imho.
i don't think you will notice the difference in speed, i prefere ext3
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I think journaling is a consideration too. I don't fully understand journaling but above this there is a post pointing out the extra write cycles. Is this going to effect battery life/sd card life?
1) i don't think about battery maybe a couple of second per day?
2) this is why most people suggest a Class 6 cards that support wear leveling
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wear_levelling
more info about file system and why ext3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3
citation: "Its main advantage over ext2 is journaling which improves reliability and eliminates the need to check the file system after an unclean shutdown."
and for what i know when you turn off the phone the ext3 partition is not unmounted

[Q] RAM

Is there a way to use memory in ur sdcard as ram for ur phone, so i can increase the performance. i think u can, so if u now how to can u post a link?
And i am using MikRunny rom
B RAD G 296 said:
Is there a way to use memory in ur sdcard as ram for ur phone, so i can increase the performance. i think u can, so if u now how to can u post a link?
And i am using MikRunny rom
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IIRC, there is a mod to use either a partition or a file on your MicroSD card for SWAP space... which is basically where programs that normally reside in ram would go when not in use... think its one by sparksco...
however, I dont see hardly any kernels with it built in these days... its a GOD SEND on my HD2 and Hero... Id love to use SWAP partition on all my devices...
hope someone more knowledgeable about whats out will reply
First this is the wrong thread for questions and answers.
And yes we have a few kernals that allow swap. But the rom as well needs to have that available from what I recall. Think cm uses 128 max though. I know there is a miui rom that uses swap here too. Does come in handy. You will need to reformat your sd card for swap if your going to use it. There is also ext3 and 4 and that acts like available storage space for your phone. I would only use 1-1.5 gb for that though. Some of these big games only want to go on your sd card.
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One of our biggest supporters of swap has actually decided it's not such a good idea.
And it does not speed things up. It slows things down. Even with a class 10 sd card.
VICODAN said:
One of our biggest supporters of swap has actually decided it's not such a good idea.
And it does not speed things up. It slows things down. Even with a class 10 sd card.
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what that makes no sense how does it slow down
B RAD G 296 said:
what that makes no sense how does it slow down
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I was using swap for quite some time and it seemed to work really well for awhile and then started to cause my phone a lot of lock-ups after awhile. I think it was just eating up my sdcard too much. And it has been proven that swap wears on your sdcard quite a bit. I don't think it's worth it. There's a script made by Darkky that patches memory leaks in roms that seems to work good. I include these in a lot of roms and my memory always stays above 80mb.
WARNING: LONG WINDED POST... read at your own risk...
VICODAN said:
One of our biggest supporters of swap has actually decided it's not such a good idea.
And it does not speed things up. It slows things down. Even with a class 10 sd card.
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What people fail to understand is that SWAP or fake ram is INHERENTLY IOPS sensitive... that being said, NONE of the Class 10 MicroSD cards have had ANYWHERE NEAR good enough IOPS for SWAP intensive operations... On my HD2 I went through testing 10 MicroSD cards of different Class's and sizes to find out which gave me the best performance while using SWAP and what gave me the best IOPS, Sadly, out of them all, only a Class 4 and Class 6, where anywhere decent enough to be good enough to function as SWAP devices... I mean 4 other ones worked... but you could tell with these 2....
B RAD G 296 said:
what that makes no sense how does it slow down
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It makes perfect sense... lets take game files from an SSD and transfer them to a HDD... while RAM and MicroSD both use NAND/Flash memory, its still a medium transfer as well! ERGO if you have a crappy IOPS MicroSD card, your going to notice slowdowns and wait times while things in RAM are swapped out to SWAP and vice versa... I guess the best comparison is using the SLEEP function on Windows 7 VS the Hibernation function...
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I was using swap for quite some time and it seemed to work really well for awhile and then started to cause my phone a lot of lock-ups after awhile. I think it was just eating up my sdcard too much. And it has been proven that swap wears on your sdcard quite a bit. I don't think it's worth it. There's a script made by Darkky that patches memory leaks in roms that seems to work good. I include these in a lot of roms and my memory always stays above 80mb.
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yeah SWAP eats the CRAP out of your MicroSD card... proven fact... HOWEVER, if your like me, 8GB and 16GB cards are rather cheep these days, I totally dont mind spending $10-30 every 6~ months buying a new MicroSD card if it keeps my OLD device speedy... (pun intended)
I got a link around here that I posted somewhere with like 4-6 different MicroSD test run results... will edit this post and link it later...
Oh, and yeah, this belongs in Q&A... but I cant blame you... its a legacy device... and I only visit the Android development section for any device I use... :X
EDIT1: "halrulez" my HD2 running on the NIGHTLY CM7 builds has ZERO problems using/utilizing my 1GB SWAP partition... its all kernel/romsetup based...
EDIT2: some things I thought I should point out after I re-read my own post... in the Windows Sleep V Hibernation statement, when in Sleep, the RAM is kept on, and thus requires no loading time, in Hibernation, RAM is stored on the HDD/SSD and must be transferred back onto RAM before it will boot... I also forgot that I backup my MicroSD's contents with Dropbox and Box software, as well as backup's that are performed whenever I plugin my Phone or MicroSD to my desktop or laptop...
There are apps like juwe11's ram app, rom toolbox has a memory settings, script manager in combination with v6 supercharger script (which I highly recommend, as it helps prevent sense reloads), auto killer memory, etc. Each phone has a "brain" of it's own. My phone likes v6 or auto killer memory, but other phones like juwe11's ramscript/app. Trial and error. Good luck, and post your results if you want to.
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Hammerfest said:
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What people fail to understand is that SWAP or fake ram is INHERENTLY IOPS sensitive... that being said, NONE of the Class 10 MicroSD cards have had ANYWHERE NEAR good enough IOPS for SWAP intensive operations... On my HD2 I went through testing 10 MicroSD cards of different Class's and sizes to find out which gave me the best performance while using SWAP and what gave me the best IOPS, Sadly, out of them all, only a Class 4 and Class 6, where anywhere decent enough to be good enough to function as SWAP devices... I mean 4 other ones worked... but you could tell with these 2....
It makes perfect sense... lets take game files from an SSD and transfer them to a HDD... while RAM and MicroSD both use NAND/Flash memory, its still a medium transfer as well! ERGO if you have a crappy IOPS MicroSD card, your going to notice slowdowns and wait times while things in RAM are swapped out to SWAP and vice versa... I guess the best comparison is using the SLEEP function on Windows 7 VS the Hibernation function...
yeah SWAP eats the CRAP out of your MicroSD card... proven fact... HOWEVER, if your like me, 8GB and 16GB cards are rather cheep these days, I totally dont mind spending $10-30 every 6~ months buying a new MicroSD card if it keeps my OLD device speedy... (pun intended)
I got a link around here that I posted somewhere with like 4-6 different MicroSD test run results... will edit this post and link it later...
Oh, and yeah, this belongs in Q&A... but I cant blame you... its a legacy device... and I only visit the Android development section for any device I use... :X
EDIT1: "halrulez" my HD2 running on the NIGHTLY CM7 builds has ZERO problems using/utilizing my 1GB SWAP partition... its all kernel/romsetup based...
EDIT2: some things I thought I should point out after I re-read my own post... in the Windows Sleep V Hibernation statement, when in Sleep, the RAM is kept on, and thus requires no loading time, in Hibernation, RAM is stored on the HDD/SSD and must be transferred back onto RAM before it will boot... I also forgot that I backup my MicroSD's contents with Dropbox and Box software, as well as backup's that are performed whenever I plugin my Phone or MicroSD to my desktop or laptop...
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Really doesn't get explained any better than this.
Hammerfest said:
WARNING: LONG WINDED POST... read at your own risk...
What people fail to understand is that SWAP or fake ram is INHERENTLY IOPS sensitive... that being said, NONE of the Class 10 MicroSD cards have had ANYWHERE NEAR good enough IOPS for SWAP intensive operations... On my HD2 I went through testing 10 MicroSD cards of different Class's and sizes to find out which gave me the best performance while using SWAP and what gave me the best IOPS, Sadly, out of them all, only a Class 4 and Class 6, where anywhere decent enough to be good enough to function as SWAP devices... I mean 4 other ones worked... but you could tell with these 2....
It makes perfect sense... lets take game files from an SSD and transfer them to a HDD... while RAM and MicroSD both use NAND/Flash memory, its still a medium transfer as well! ERGO if you have a crappy IOPS MicroSD card, your going to notice slowdowns and wait times while things in RAM are swapped out to SWAP and vice versa... I guess the best comparison is using the SLEEP function on Windows 7 VS the Hibernation function...
yeah SWAP eats the CRAP out of your MicroSD card... proven fact... HOWEVER, if your like me, 8GB and 16GB cards are rather cheep these days, I totally dont mind spending $10-30 every 6~ months buying a new MicroSD card if it keeps my OLD device speedy... (pun intended)
I got a link around here that I posted somewhere with like 4-6 different MicroSD test run results... will edit this post and link it later...
Oh, and yeah, this belongs in Q&A... but I cant blame you... its a legacy device... and I only visit the Android development section for any device I use... :X
EDIT1: "halrulez" my HD2 running on the NIGHTLY CM7 builds has ZERO problems using/utilizing my 1GB SWAP partition... its all kernel/romsetup based...
EDIT2: some things I thought I should point out after I re-read my own post... in the Windows Sleep V Hibernation statement, when in Sleep, the RAM is kept on, and thus requires no loading time, in Hibernation, RAM is stored on the HDD/SSD and must be transferred back onto RAM before it will boot... I also forgot that I backup my MicroSD's contents with Dropbox and Box software, as well as backup's that are performed whenever I plugin my Phone or MicroSD to my desktop or laptop...
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That is a good explaintion. But personally I don't want to be the guy that releases a rom with swap already in it and get the guilt of someone's sdcard breaking. As drob311 said there's apps and other ways of making it work and my rom/kernel does still support these other ways of using it.
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That is a good explaintion. But personally I don't want to be the guy that releases a rom with swap already in it and get the guilt of someone's sdcard breaking. As drob311 said there's apps and other ways of making it work and my rom/kernel does still support these other ways of using it.
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you do know that you can enable SWAP in a rom, but make it contained to SWAP PARTITION only? ergo if they made a SWAP partition on their MicroSD card... hence you have zero liability if said card breaks... you have to have SOME knowledge to repartition a MicroSD card properly for a SWAP partition
BTW, I fully support enabling it that way, it also leads the way to making the script for SWAP file vs partition easier because the ROM is ready for it, its just not enabled unless someone inserts the custom script OR has the proper partition for SWAP!
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you do know that you can enable SWAP in a rom, but make it contained to SWAP PARTITION only? ergo if they made a SWAP partition on their MicroSD card... hence you have zero liability if said card breaks... you have to have SOME knowledge to repartition a MicroSD card properly for a SWAP partition
BTW, I fully support enabling it that way, it also leads the way to making the script for SWAP file vs partition easier because the ROM is ready for it, its just not enabled unless someone inserts the custom script OR has the proper partition for SWAP!
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Yes I know. I already had a swap script for swap partition for cm7 but you need a custom cmparts.apk since cm decided to disable all swap on their roms. Plus I didn't really feel like repartitioning my sdcard once it started acting up. I'll probably just make a seperate add-on to flash over the roms for it if people want it.
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Yes I know. I already had a swap script for swap partition for cm7 but you need a custom cmparts.apk since cm decided to disable all swap on their roms. Plus I didn't really feel like repartitioning my sdcard once it started acting up. I'll probably just make a seperate add-on to flash over the roms for it if people want it.
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im cool with that
actually, if someone can get YES/NO in CWM like on my HD2 you can put it all in the rom and they can choose right at the get-go
that being said, you can still use the custom cmparts.apk even w/o using swap partition... not that big of a conflict since if you have SWAP partition it works if not its disabled... only the functionality is present... and you dont have to maintain a separate script/package/whatever...
also, if your SDCard is acting up, use the SDCard formatter do a full format, then use HD low level format tool... or if you bought HDD Regenerator like me, its easy to find the health of your SD Media... but thats a moot matter... and im done talking for the night i think... (well the night ends in 3min... :X )
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You can actually use compcache with out swapping to sd. But any swap introduces latency so it negates most gains achieved. So more apps might not get killed off as quick allowing them to reopen faster but forground apps suffer from the latency and compression.
http://code.google.com/p/compcache/
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zenulator said:
You can actually use compcache with out swapping to sd. But any swap introduces latency so it negates most gains achieved. So more apps might not get killed off as quick allowing them to reopen faster but forground apps suffer from the latency and compression.
http://code.google.com/p/compcache/
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AFAICT non of our kernels support compcache. It's a patch you have to apply to the kernel itself in order to make it work.
http://code.google.com/p/compcache/wiki/Patches
THANK YOU
ok i would like to say thanks for ur help.
AND I NO THAT IT IS THE WRONG THREAD FOR ME TO POST THIS BUT THIS PHONE IS NOT THAT BIG AND NO ONE LOOK IN GENERAL FORUMS FOR THIS ONE. SO I PUT IT WHERE I WOULD GET THE MOST ANSWERS. BUT THANKS AGAIN
B RAD G 296 said:
ok i would like to say thanks for ur help.
AND I NO THAT IT IS THE WRONG THREAD FOR ME TO POST THIS BUT THIS PHONE IS NOT THAT BIG AND NO ONE LOOK IN GENERAL FORUMS FOR THIS ONE. SO I PUT IT WHERE I WOULD GET THE MOST ANSWERS. BUT THANKS AGAIN
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I actually understand the reasoning.... hell I forget about general and q&a sometimes
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strapped365 said:
I actually understand the reasoning.... hell I forget about general and q&a sometimes
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willful ignorance... I flat out ignore the general and Q&A sections... unless I have a question not directly related to a rom...
@Sparksco... none out support compcache... that blows arse... I am glad then that I still use my HeroC (with compcache, you can DEFINITELY feel a SPEED UP rather then down ) as my home Read/Music/Browse device... well that and its extended battery and more responsive touch screen... (yes, i know, new update fix's this.. but I aint tried it yet)... Id beg you to include it in your next kernel/rom... but your deadset on not (its like 2WayCallRecording and No2WayCallRecording Kernels for my HD2... lol!)
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willful ignorance... I flat out ignore the general and Q&A sections... unless I have a question not directly related to a rom...
@Sparksco... none out support compcache... that blows arse... I am glad then that I still use my HeroC (with compcache, you can DEFINITELY feel a SPEED UP rather then down ) as my home Read/Music/Browse device... well that and its extended battery and more responsive touch screen... (yes, i know, new update fix's this.. but I aint tried it yet)... Id beg you to include it in your next kernel/rom... but your deadset on not (its like 2WayCallRecording and No2WayCallRecording Kernels for my HD2... lol!)
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Thanks for all the insight and I have taken allot in from this whole discussion.
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I was told in a thread that 128 was Max on swap but I'm always willing to try new things. I did come from my old Heroc was a great phone to first start of on, till it took a crap on me.,lol meaning my mother in law threw it in the washing machine. Then my son threw my wifes in the toilet. Was great because of the best buy protection. Loved the old device but the shift is like night and day. Don't really use the keyboard. what is all I would need to do to use more swap? I haven't had any lock UPS what so ever. Class 4 8GB btw.
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Slow Input in /data f2fs

I am having slow input speeds according to A1 sd benchmark, 1.17MB/s. The tablet also seems very slow. I am using CROMi-X 5.4 Resurrected. I have been using the rom for about a month now. I wasn't sure if I installed it correctly the first time so I reinstalled it, making sure to format /data to ext4 in TWRP, then to f2fs when flashing rom. I confirmed /data is f2fs in terminal emulator. Am I missing something or is this normal? Should I move to data2sd? I get read/write of 24/15 MB/s on my sd card. I get read speed of 41MB/s on /data. Also, my sd card is not recognized in TWRP. It is a 64 GB Samsung evo class 10.
I appreciate all the views. But no replies, so I'll add some more info I've collected
Disk Speed Test:
Read: 4.7MB/s
Write 1.0MB/s
SD Tools
Write: 26.8MB/s
Read: 43MB/S
SD Tools seemed faster than other benchmarks, so I tested my external SD card:
Write: 102.2MB/s
Read: 166.6MB/s
So at least it agrees that the internal speeds are much slower than on my external card.
I get a Quadrant score of 7570 in Performance Mode.
I'm confused, as I thought f2fs was supposed to solve the i/o speed issues. I'm considering Data2SD, but, as far as I can tell, most roms don't even support this feature, I assume because the opinion is that with f2fs It's no longer needed.
I'll mention again that my experience with the tablet is that it feels slow, launching apps, switching between apps, times which make it feel like an i/o bottleneck.
Is CROMi-x a slow rom? Any opinions on what rom I should use?
Is anyone else having trouble in TWRP with the size of the SD card? Does veryone use 32GB? As I said my 64GB isn't recognized.
Should I try a different benchmark?
ANY replies would be greatly appreciated. Any opinions on any of these issues or anything anyone thinks I should try would be a big help! Thanks in advance!
Look, this tablet has crappy hardware: the emmc has just very low quality, slow memory. Nothing can fix that. But certain things can help with it and one of them is f2fs.
IMO f2fs worked better than data2sd so I don't think it's worth trying, but then: It would be a great learning experience, so why not give it a shot....
Next roms you can try are Tim's KatKiss roms. All of them are great, I'm currently playing around with Nougatella and it's impressive. For this device impressive.
You have to compare any custom rom to stock. And they are almost all better. But none of them will turn this tablet into a speed freak.
To get the most out of this tablet: Stay away from social media apps, stay away from apps that update in the background in general like Tapatalk, news apps, weather, widgets of any kind etc, use as few Google apps as you can...
In short: with just a gig of memory and saddled with a slow emmc, this tablet is still good for certain purposes. But as a daily driver? I don't have the patience.....
Oh - and TWRP just does not play well with some microSDs and if I remember correctly the 64 gig Samsung Evo was one of them. You do have it formatted fat32 right?
I'm on timduru's kisskat MM 029. My TF700 has never run better and I will switch to his N variant when it gets a little more duru love . But, his ROM has put life back into these tablets, most of which had been shelved! Sure it's a lag bag. But now it's MUCH MUCH better and I use mine everyday again. Just flash the MM version and see for yourself and make sure to do a clean install and follow the instructions to the letter.
If that tablet doesn't have any abnormal issues I'm pretty certain you'll be happier.
I just installed katkiss nougatella and now it's running great. The only thing I did differently, besides that it's a different rom, is that after formatting \data to ext4 I reformatted to f2fs while still in TWRP. With the previous ROM I did a full format to ext4 but formatted to f2fs using the installer. In case that helps someone else with this problem.
I now get write speeds around 15MB\s in benchmark programs, and apps run great and browser OK.
Thanks to those who commented and to all who even took a look. What a great community to keep these tablets alive.

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