So long and thanks for all the fish! - Captivate General

Guys I sold my Cappy today and purchased an HTC Inspire 4G.
I want to thank all the devs here who made The Captivate a GREAT phone. Without you guys I would have dumped it months ago.
Keep fighting the good fight against the Evil Overlords. Call them on their Bullsh!t.
See ya'll round the way.

Nice Hitchhiker's Guide reference = epic farewell. See ya!

Good luck and watch out for Vogons.

Oh crap, one of the good guys has left us. Fare thee well, man.

They were waiting for you to leave to release 2.2....check engadget. ;-p
Sent transparently through the tubes.

Enjoy the GPS, haha.

Nice good bye man. 42

Sorry to see you go but I completely understand.

Well, Im the proud owner of his Captivate.. New journey for me after years of Windows Mobile phones.. =)

Good luck, when I first got my phone in september I deleted gtalk and freaked out. You were nice enough to help me. Hope you enjoy the new device

Don't forget Gunnyman... #NeverAgain! Lol. I hope to somehow join the inspire gang soon.

Nice. Definitely went with the best option in the Inspire.
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Hey Bryan I'll pop in from time to time. XDA is one big happy family after all
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Mikey get one. We need serendipity over on the inspire.
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farewell to me as well! I got my LG Quantum (I still shudder when I say LG) but I'm loving it. I can actually use the GPS on it, and the OS is snappy. Snappier than the Captivate. And it doesn't freeze. And the battery life is decent.
Here's to hoping we like our new phones!

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Mikey get one. We need serendipity over on the inspire.
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I'm waiting for root and whatnot.
And any potential problems, like our lag, gps, etc.
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shiftylock said:
farewell to me as well! I got my LG Quantum (I still shudder when I say LG) but I'm loving it. I can actually use the GPS on it, and the OS is snappy. Snappier than the Captivate. And it doesn't freeze. And the battery life is decent.
Here's to hoping we like our new phones!
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My mom got that phone.
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MikeyMike01 said:
I'm waiting for root and whatnot.
And any potential problems, like our lag, gps, etc.
Sent from my Captivate.
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Since it doesn't use crappy RFS and has actual NAND memory there isn't any lag and the GPS is spot on Root however may take a while. Currently only method is to make a goldcard and downgrade ROM then root and install a custom. It's weird having a phone with a 2 page dev section, but it's coming

OMG I HAZ TO SUE ATT/HTC!!! The Inspire is heavier than the captivate by not a little bit. My pinkie hurts from holding the phone and resting it there. I NEEDZ A GOOD LAWYER.
Just kidding (about the lawyer part)
After spending a bit of time with the Inspire let me give a little mini review to list the pros and cons to those considering switching.
Speed: The Captivate out of the box is a dog as we all know. The Stock 2.2.1 on the Inspire is faster, it feels as fast as a Captivate with Lagfix, maybe a tiny bit faster. quadrant 1704 Linpack 39.845 (yes I know these scores are meaningless)
GPS: Works as intended. fast lock and never lost tracking while driving home from the store.
Camera: 8 megapixel with flash. Seems to take decent pictures. I haven't played with video
RAM: 2GB on board and came with 8GB SD card. The Captivate has more, but the same 2GB for apps is present on both phones. Cappy wins here.
Screen: The resolution is the same (I think) on both phones but with the 4.3 inch Inspire, I can actually READ webpages. I had trouble on the captivate with my 43 year old eyes. The SAMOLED screen is better on the Captivate, but I have no complaints.
This is all I've tested so far. If you guys want to hit me up with questions, please feel free.
One thing I forgot to add. The Battery door is a POS. Very hard to open. even the guy at the store had trouble.

gunnyman said:
OMG I HAZ TO SUE ATT/HTC!!! The Inspire is heavier than the captivate by not a little bit. My pinkie hurts from holding the phone and resting it there. I NEEDZ A GOOD LAWYER.
Just kidding (about the lawyer part)
After spending a bit of time with the Inspire let me give a little mini review to list the pros and cons to those considering switching.
Speed: The Captivate out of the box is a dog as we all know. The Stock 2.2.1 on the Inspire is faster, it feels as fast as a Captivate with Lagfix, maybe a tiny bit faster. quadrant 1704 Linpack 39.845 (yes I know these scores are meaningless)
GPS: Works as intended. fast lock and never lost tracking while driving home from the store.
Camera: 8 megapixel with flash. Seems to take decent pictures. I haven't played with video
RAM: 2GB on board and came with 8GB SD card. The Captivate has more, but the same 2GB for apps is present on both phones. Cappy wins here.
Screen: The resolution is the same (I think) on both phones but with the 4.3 inch Inspire, I can actually READ webpages. I had trouble on the captivate with my 43 year old eyes. The SAMOLED screen is better on the Captivate, but I have no complaints.
This is all I've tested so far. If you guys want to hit me up with questions, please feel free.
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I would concur on your review. Honestly, even before the GC and such to get root, I was already much happier with the stock Inspire than I ever was with the Captivate on custom ROM's.
And personally, I am glad to see some quality members joining the Inspire ranks. I can already see great things are coming with it. The sheer fact that three days after release we have root, custom ROMs, and SIM unlock is pretty amazing.

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[Q] Former Captivate Owners..?

Hey guys,
I have a Captivate right now and am strongly considering switching over to the Inspire. I really wanted to get former Captivate user's opinions before I go ahead and jump ship; I really think that there are a couple of faults the Inspire has and I want to make sure that I'm making the right choice.
So, I kinda want to get this through before you guys ask
I don't use data, I use Wi-Fi at home.
I don't need GPS.
Texting and calling is important for me.
Graphics and speed is important for me.
Memory is important for me.
I'm going to be using it with a data opt-out on this phone, so I won't even have EDGE. I normally use my phone to listen to my music library, text, and call friends, with the occasional game/app every once in a while. I also enjoy reading occasionally, which is why I'm considering switching to the bigger-screened Inspire. I definitely will have to buy a 32GB microSD for it too, since my music library is a little bit under 8GB, and even then--it's still growing every other weekend.
What should I consider before switching?
Thanks, and sorry for the long post..
Speaking as a former cappy owner, the inspire out of the box is already better than any custom rom captivate. Adding cm7 makes it so bloody quick that it will blow you away. And with the recent audio fix posted in the Dev forum, calls are crystal clear.
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cappyandroid said:
Hey guys,
I have a Captivate right now and am strongly considering switching over to the Inspire. I really wanted to get former Captivate user's opinions before I go ahead and jump ship; I really think that there are a couple of faults the Inspire has and I want to make sure that I'm making the right choice.
So, I kinda want to get this through before you guys ask
I don't use data, I use Wi-Fi at home.
I don't need GPS.
Texting and calling is important for me.
Graphics and speed is important for me.
Memory is important for me.
I'm going to be using it with a data opt-out on this phone, so I won't even have EDGE. I normally use my phone to listen to my music library, text, and call friends, with the occasional game/app every once in a while. I also enjoy reading occasionally, which is why I'm considering switching to the bigger-screened Inspire. I definitely will have to buy a 32GB microSD for it too, since my music library is a little bit under 8GB, and even then--it's still growing every other weekend.
What should I consider before switching?
Thanks, and sorry for the long post..
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Do it.
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Get rid of the cappy, sold mine on craigslist and haven't looked back. It's nice to have a phone where everything works with no modding!!
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You won't regret it
Captivate was nice but this phone is way faster and better and doesn't need all the mods to get it to work like it should. Def go for it
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Do it.
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I agree. Do it. Even stock, this phone is better then captivated. The best part is that everything works. If you use the stock rooted roms, the call quality is great, the gps works and the keyboard a lot better the captivated. The only problem is that the root kinda sucks compared to captivated but not too bad. I haven't tested the music app yet.
you couldnt pay me to go back to captivate way faster. everyone keeps boasting about how good the cappy hardware is but it doesnt compare in speed to inrpsire out of the box mine is stock and was doing 2200 to 2400 on quad scores, Definately loving my inspire. Not to mention how sweet the htc software looks out of the box .
I agree...I came from the captivate world and its amazing how different the Froyo 2.2 is from one device to another. And then there is the GPS.....I didnt know what a GPS was with the captivate.
But I did love my captivate.
The difference is night and day.
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kezell said:
I agree...I came from the captivate world and its amazing how different the Froyo 2.2 is from one device to another. And then there is the GPS.....I didnt know what a GPS was with the captivate.
But I did love my captivate.
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I loved it when I didn't know any better...
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Just sold my cappy on Craiglist today and got the Inspire, all I can say is wow! Amazing phone I love it, the freaking gps actually works! Get this phone man you won't regret it!
On a side note(sorry not trying to steal your thread), even though this phone is "4G" I don't need an extra data plan besides my $25/month 2gb plan?
as a former Cappy owner let me add my 2 cents is well lol. Get the Inspire and don't look back. Right out of the box, stock, it has more to offer than a custom Rom on cappy.
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I have the Captivate, the Inspire and the Atrix. I like the Inspire better than the other 2 , in fact, about to see my craptivate on Craigslist, not even keeping it as a backup.
You will love the Inspire, fast, just works, great integration of Sense UI, beautiful and build quality is beyond.
Do it...............
Just sold my Captivate on EBay. Don't regret it at all. The inspire is a great phone.
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id10terrordfw said:
Speaking as a former cappy owner, the inspire out of the box is already better than any custom rom captivate. Adding cm7 makes it so bloody quick that it will blow you away. And with the recent audio fix posted in the Dev forum, calls are crystal clear.
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This x100. CM7 is more stable and faster than anything you would ever flash on the Captivate. And that's before OC'ing.
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blperks2 said:
I have the Captivate, the Inspire and the Atrix. I like the Inspire better than the other 2 , in fact, about to see my craptivate on Craigslist, not even keeping it as a backup.
You will love the Inspire, fast, just works, great integration of Sense UI, beautiful and build quality is beyond.
Do it...............
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This is a pretty amazing statement seeing how the atrix is supported to be so much better than the inspire based on the specs. I have been trying to explain to a lot of people on xda that it is not all about the specs and when u compare the atrix to the inspire the inspire is just a better phone. The development is already better than the captivate and with the atrix and its locked bootloader u are forced to wait on MOTO. Not to mention the inspires screen blows the atrix out the water! Inspire FTW!!
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same data plan but they change it to what is called hspa + 4g still data pro 2gig 25.00 and I love the inspire battery life is equal if not better then captivate. I use captivate moderately at work and it needs to be charged on way home, my inspire used heavy all day today and was at like 45% battery power omw home. People can state all they want that captivate has better hardware but fact is inspire is faster I was getting 2200 and higher quad and that is on stock no tweaks at all.
I work at an at&t retailer and I got my Inspire when it came out. I was hesitant because I loved my captivate but everything on the inspire is better. the only thing i miss is swype and free wifi teathering ( im waiting for one click root on the inspire bc im a noob). The Inspire is well worth the money but if your willing to wait the samsung infuse is coming out soon and will be even better in my opinion. I have had a few customers come in hating the captivate, due to battery, service quality, and other issues and i got them in to inspires and all of them only have good things to say about it.
its very easy to put swype on it.
I have had the captivate since launch day and got the inspire a week or so ago. This evening I dropped the inspire in some water getting out of my car Screen comes on but touch not working all the time. Its sitting in a cup or rice and I'm using the captivate again. Its over-clocked to 1.4 and running serendipity while my inspire was 1.7 and cm7.
Right away I notice the captivate feels slower to open apps and populate information in apps on first open, the inspire is almost instant. Once apps are loaded into memory they feel similar but the captivate with widgets and multiple apps open does bog down compared to the inspire.
When I first switched to the inspire I missed the captivate screen, now I miss the inspire screen so who knows what that says.
All in all I hope the inspire recovers and the captivate will be on craigslist. Its been a great phone and fun introduction to android but the inspire is just better in almost every way and the additional memory seals the deal for me.
O but the gpu on the captivate is better, gets better frame rate in almost everything Ive seen 3D wise but not by much. Inspire does get about 30-40% more battery life over captivate for me.

Inspire 4G vs Atrix

Hey guys. I know I'm posting this in here so I assume bias answers will come aboutt but I'm switching to att and I cannot decide between the two. What do you think? I know the atrix isn't very rootable or romable but has amazing specs. But the inspire is, and is a beautiful device. What are your opinions? How easy is the inspire to root?
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Depends on if you prefer the allure of a dual core processor over end user customization and superior build quality.
Rooting the Inspire is very easy if you can follow the instructions exactly as they are written.
Have both myself and the atrix is going back. Everyone has their preference for what they want in a phone and I really wanted to like the atrix but I don't see the benefit at this time of dual core when it comes at the expense of customizing. I am somewhat biased toward sense as well even though I don't always use sense roms, it is nice to have the option. The inspire is a great phone and I know I won't get bored given the variety of roms that are, or will be available.
Battery seems to be a topic that comes up but honestly I have been getting great results with the inspire. 13 hours off charger today and dropped to 68%. Light day for me, only an hour of display time and few minutes of calls but everything left to sync every hour. One major thing I have noticed is that even if you do find you need to recharge, the inspire charges quickly, even using computer usb, while the atrix takes a lot longer and is painfully slow if you are not using a regular outlet to charge.
Been covered before, but the inspire really is the better device. MOTO kinda screwed the atrix up with software.
RogerPodacter said:
Been covered before, but the inspire really is the better device. MOTO kinda screwed the atrix up with software.
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100% agree. I returned my Atrix for the Inspire, and I'm glad I did. Inspire has a much more polished and functional user interface.
New root tools now available here should make rooting easy.
As said before it depends on what you want.
Phone with awesome specs or Phone with awesome dev support and a great UI
Both phones are awesome in their own right, but for me its all about having control of my phone and being able to do what I like to it.
In all honesty I'd wait for a dual core phone till HTC makes one. This is my first HTC coming from a blackberry bold. I don't think I'll ever not go with HTC again...
edit: Baaa I sound like a fanboy.....
okay, i appreicate your help guys. i guess now im just trying to figure out when i get the phone, how to root. ive been looking at this for simple s off and root(which is all i want for ROMing and using OC kernels). has anyone had luck with this, and or was it rather easy?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
I just used the hack kit to root. Not hard if you just follow the instructions and only takes 45 minutes after you get all the files downloaded.
Just returned my Atrix back to Radioshack and got the Inspire!! Just as everyone said here, if you want something good on paper but with no real use, then the Atrix is for you, but if you want a proven phone with an unlocked bootloader for ROMS etc... then this is the the right choice...
Although I lost my front facing camera, i figured I rarely used it anyways, so no biggie for me. I also didn't like the smaller icons on the Atrix. Even though it has less RAM and i less core, it still performs pretty dang fast..
Quadrant scores with a good amount of apps. without OC or anything stock is still hitting: 1807
Color looks much better too on this screen..... glad I switched to this phone instead. I am sure I will get a better dual or quad core in the next year but until then this will do....
Bye Motorola...except for the Xoom..that looks like a good choice though.
Your asking this in the inspire forms, of course everyone will say the inspire is better. If you asked this in the atrix forums you'd get the opposite response I've had both and returned the inspire. It isn't a bad phone but it has horrid battery life and no internal sd storage. It has great roms and OCs like a monster but OC and bad battery life just compound the problem. I can see why people would choose one or the other, it really just depends on what you're looking for.
I'm not sure if this is true or not, but a guy on Reddit said he was talking with a Motorola Representative and the Rep. told him that the Atrix doesn't use both cores at the same time. One is for the phone and the other is just for the laptop dock. Maybe someone else has more info on this.
Wow, another reason Im happy I stuck to my guns and got this phone.
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so if I use bubbys GUI, that will allow me to sideload apps? Or ill need to put a rom that allows that? Or what is the sideload wonder machine? I'm sorry for all the questions, the htc vision is a lot more simple.
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Used hack kit on my inspire and bubbys on my wifes. not as easy as samsung galaxy s, however not difficult if you follow the directions to the letter lol. my only issue with buys was total user error on my part lol. ended up making 32 gb class 4 gold card instead of the already made 4 gb gold card I had.
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If you just want to sideload, you can use Sideload Wonder Machine. If you want root and custom roms use one of the hack kits.
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I actually have both phones. I love both of them for different reasons.
Atrix - Works well once you change launchers. Fast and smooth. I actually like the smaller icons and all. But I use this phone mostly as a personal backup phone. But it works well and is crystal clear with a strong signal. MUCh MUCH better than my old cappy.
Inspire - My work phone, thank GOD I work from home and can have it plugged in most of the time. When I travel I have to have the Atrix just in case I cant get juice on the road. But, the inspire is awsome, not as fast but "good enough" for me. Love the size and color of it and the sense ui just works for me. I can tell which pocket has what phone based on bulk and weight. Very nice quality phone. Plus, I had a cappy, and we all know what we did almost every day. Loaded custom roms, played and even bricked a few but its so addicting.
If I had to go purchase one today, knowing what I know, Inspire would be my first choice, Again I own both and love both but first choice for the pure fun and joy it would give me the INSPIRE wins hands down.
Got my inspire today. Mixed feelings so far. Have to admit i kind of miss my captivate a little.
I think the inspire screen size is perfect. But i miss the superamoled. I don't know if its just me but my screen has horrible viewing angles and also seems to have too much of a grey color to it.
If samsung brings out the infuse soon i might give it a shot. This being my first htc maybe i should give it more time. Might return it for another one to see how the screen looks.
As far as the atrix goes, they couldn't pay me to use that phone. Played with one a little today, it's more hype than anything imo.
I like the form of the inspire, it feels solid, not iphone4 solid but very close. I hope rooting and everything gets easier.
Someone smarter than Me should start selling goldcards for this phone. Id be 1st in line for one.
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I had both phones - inspire is the best phone I have ever had. It made the atrix look like a toy. iPhone 4 has a better camera, but thats about it.
Inspire all the way. Galaxy S 2 is looking good though, if it ever comes out.
Edit: How can anyone with an Atrix and Inspire say the inspire is slower? The atrix is the definition of a neutered turtle. That thing is clunky and useless.
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I had both phones - inspire is the best phone I have ever had. It made the atrix look like a toy. iPhone 4 has a better camera, but thats about it.
Inspire all the way. Galaxy S 2 is looking good though, if it ever comes out.
Edit: How can anyone with an Atrix and Inspire say the inspire is slower? The atrix is the definition of a neutered turtle. That thing is clunky and useless.
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I'm also a psu fan. I hope that they let Joe stay on the sideline forever. Hell he should be buried there.
Back on topic, my opinion if the atrix is that it is basically a moto iphone that is not as good as the 4 but somewhere inbetween a 3 gs and the iphone 4.
As far as the inspire goes, it needs a better screen in my opinion but maybe i just got a bad one. I'm taking it back today to try another one and if its the same then i may just wait for the infuse to come out.
If you look in the atrix forum it appears that the majority are giving up on it already.
Dg got rid of his and i think but don't quote me in this, he said he doesn't think the locked will ever be broken in to which leads me back to my iphone reference. Same thing, you can root (jailbreak) it but not much else.
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donharden2002 said:
I'm also a psu fan. I hope that they let Joe stay on the sideline forever. Hell he should be buried there.
Back on topic, my opinion if the atrix is that it is basically a moto iphone that is not as good as the 4 but somewhere inbetween a 3 gs and the iphone 4.
As far as the inspire goes, it needs a better screen in my opinion but maybe i just got a bad one. I'm taking it back today to try another one and if its the same then i may just wait for the infuse to come out.
If you look in the atrix forum it appears that the majority are giving up on it already.
Dg got rid of his and i think but don't quote me in this, he said he doesn't think the locked will ever be broken in to which leads me back to my iphone reference. Same thing, you can root (jailbreak) it but not much else.
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Did dg really get rid of his Atrix, did he post about it some where? Only reason I ask is cause I was planning on trying the atrix in my thirty day period bit if he left I'm not even gonna try. He doesn't give up that easy so if he have up looks bad lol
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fantastic phone

Gonna have to say I've had my phone for around a month now and I'm still impressed.. I had posted my initial thoughts and comparing it to my EVO and I haven't changed my mind much. I'm loving the battery life.. compared to my EVO I can definitely last a solid day with medium use and not be worried about having a charger around. Pixel density still slightly bothers me.. but I'm accepting it. Speed wise seems as peppy or peppier than my EVO.. I had loaded many roms to improve usability and esthetics on the EVO and other than the MIUI interface I'm liking Samsungs take.. or yet mildly unfettered Android 2.2. I am excited at getting to load MIUI on this. It's great that at stock this phone is as good or better than my custom rom'd EVO in most aspects of at least how I use it. It also feels great in the hand....
I think the only phone that's gonna stand out enough that I'm gonna be tempted will be the Palm Pre 3... other than the lack of apps for WEBOS it's the best bloody mobile OS out there.... Period!
Good to see that you like it. great phone!
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Gonna have to say I've had my phone for around a month now and I'm still impressed.. I had posted my initial thoughts and comparing it to my EVO and I haven't changed my mind much. I'm loving the battery life.. compared to my EVO I can definitely last a solid day with medium use and not be worried about having a charger around. Pixel density still slightly bothers me.. but I'm accepting it. Speed wise seems as peppy or peppier than my EVO.. I had loaded many roms to improve usability and esthetics on the EVO and other than the MIUI interface I'm liking Samsungs take.. or yet mildly unfettered Android 2.2. I am excited at getting to load MIUI on this. It's great that at stock this phone is as good or better than my custom rom'd EVO in most aspects of at least how I use it. It also feels great in the hand....
I think the only phone that's gonna stand out enough that I'm gonna be tempted will be the Palm Pre 3... other than the lack of apps for WEBOS it's the best bloody mobile OS out there.... Period!
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i agree with you... my brother has a EVO and he himself said the other day your phone is better... Only thing that bugs me was the TW but i DL the Launcher Pro and it made the phone look better... Oh and a kick stan would of been nice to watch videos on this nice screen...
BTW i like the joke you made about WebOS lol...
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I have to completely agree, there are a thousand threads in this section about how people hate this phone blah blah blah.
I happen to LOVE this phone, as a matter of fact, its the best android phone ive owned to date. Much better than the Evo. Im not buying any new android phones unless its super amoled or better, Ill take the super amoled on this phone over an LCD any day, even with the sub pentile matrix..
Cant wait to see the galaxy s2. I cant imagine a phone operating better than this with a better bigger display.
Not a fan of the TW launcher, but launcherpro fixes that and makes thing much more speedy anyways
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I have to completely agree, there are a thousand threads in this section about how people hate this phone blah blah blah.
I happen to LOVE this phone, as a matter of fact, its the best android phone ive owned to date. Much better than the Evo. Im not buying any new android phones unless its super amoled or better, Ill take the super amoled on this phone over an LCD any day, even with the sub pentile matrix..
Cant wait to see the galaxy s2. I cant imagine a phone operating better than this with a better bigger display.
Not a fan of the TW launcher, but launcherpro fixes that and makes thing much more speedy anyways
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I agree with you man cant see my self with a phone with a phone that dosent have a screen as good as this phone... And yes for a bit there in the biggining i hated this phone and talk smack about getting the G2x or the EVO 3D but then i thought about it and its not the size that matters is how you use it...
Only phone that could make me drop this phone now would be the SGS2 or the SGS2 3D( it is coming just sit back and watch )...
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I agree with you man cant see my self with a phone with a phone that dosent have a screen as good as this phone... And yes for a bit there in the biggining i hated this phone and talk smack about getting the G2x or the EVO 3D but then i thought about it and its not the size that matters is how you use it...
Only phone that could make me drop this phone now would be the SGS2 or the SGS2 3D( it is coming just sit back and watch )...
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for sure. everyone seems to be jumping to the new LG thats coming out, but I honestly cant go without a super amoled display anymore unless i got forced to. So me and you are in the same "F everything but the SGS2 wagon".
lol
What is TW?
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What is TW?
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Samsungs Touch Wiz the "eye candy" on top of the stock Android 2.2 we running...
On a side note the sound on this phone kicks the iPhones 4 and EVOs @ss... 5.1 thats all i got to say...
And the screen on this is like a Lambo compare to other phones we are running laps around them...
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Well I'm glad I posted .. good to hear others liking their phones as well.. thought I might get lambasted but thought the s4g deserved some respect.
Man it's good to see this kind of thread. The "Samsung sucks, vibrant sucks, sgs4g sucks" threads are getting old. I can understand where people are coming from but that doesn't make it any less annoying. I loved my vibrant and the only reason I went to the sgs4g is because tmobile offered it to me w/full upgrade discount (because of gps issue). I sold my vibrant for $300 on ebay. I have to say, so far, I'm glad I did. I am a little worried about internal storage, but that's nothing a nice new shiny rom won't fix.
I love the speeds. At my house with the vibrant I was averaging about 3.5mbps. Now in the some spot with the sgs4g I avg 9.5, quite often I hit 12.5.
I hope the vibe of these forums stay with this type of attitude, and we don't get like the "vibe" of the other forums.
I look forward to what's to come for this phone with some voodoo! That would make this phone perfection IMHO.
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Man it's good to see this kind of thread. The "Samsung sucks, vibrant sucks, sgs4g sucks" threads are getting old. I can understand where people are coming from but that doesn't make it any less annoying. I loved my vibrant and the only reason I went to the sgs4g is because tmobile offered it to me w/full upgrade discount (because of gps issue). I sold my vibrant for $300 on ebay. I have to say, so far, I'm glad I did. I am a little worried about internal storage, but that's nothing a nice new shiny rom won't fix.
I love the speeds. At my house with the vibrant I was averaging about 3.5mbps. Now in the some spot with the sgs4g I avg 9.5, quite often I hit 12.5.
I hope the vibe of these forums stay with this type of attitude, and we don't get like the "vibe" of the other forums.
I look forward to what's to come for this phone with some voodoo! That would make this phone perfection IMHO.
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right! you dont need the voodoo fix on the gs4g, it uses a different memory architecture than the original vibrant.
as far as internal memory goes, look in the dev section for a thread called rom deleted. There is a small fix that will free up about 250+ megs of memory available to the system. Its called the FOTA fix. Works like a charm, it gets rid of the files that are housed in the system for the automatic updates.
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right! you dont need the voodoo fix on the gs4g, it uses a different memory architecture than the original vibrant.
as far as internal memory goes, look in the dev section for a thread called rom deleted. There is a small fix that will free up about 250+ megs of memory available to the system. Its called the FOTA fix. Works like a charm, it gets rid of the files that are housed in the system for the automatic updates.
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That's what I've heard, but it still seems a little laggy. Does it not to you? Like home screens and opening menus. And I know quad scores don't "mean anything", but it's getting half what my vibrant + voodoo was. It just doesn't seem as zippy as ext4.
On the FOTA fix, is that something that we may need at a later date, or is it easy to just add back.
Thanks for the help.
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That's what I've heard, but it still seems a little laggy. Does it not to you? Like home screens and opening menus. And I know quad scores don't "mean anything", but it's getting half what my vibrant + voodoo was. It just doesn't seem as zippy as ext4.
On the FOTA fix, is that something that we may need at a later date, or is it easy to just add back.
Thanks for the help.
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get rid of TW, its slow as hell compared to Launcher Pro and other 3rd party launchers.
As far as the fota fix, im pretty sure well be fine without it as once your rooted youll want to wait for roms from the devs once cwm is working anyways
I just recently switched to Go Launcher and have put the other lanchers away.
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SGS4 or Nexus S

Im so confused on which one to get. I mean the SGS2 is a vibrant with 4g pretty much? And i dont know if the nexus s has 4g capability? I can get the sgs4 for 139. and the nexus s off best buy for 99. Really want to based this on development. So any info i would appericate it
nexus is best your choice .
Can you give me a more detailed answer as in why? I mean i like the sgs4 cause i always liked the vibrant. But the nexus s does have development. The only thing that scares me is the Internal 16gb which will lead into corrupting if a bad flash is done!
I recently had to make the same decision and had friends with both I borrowed for a week.
The nexus s is amazingly fast. It boots and shuts down in a fraction of the time. It has flash for the camera. It has gps that actually works right out of the box. It has a cooler design and a much more solid feel. It has the nfc that you will probably never use. It has premium support and google ota updates of the newest stuffs. The usb port also has a much nicer feel.
Video playback is poor compared to the vibrant.
It lacks support for most 3d games.
There is no sd card slot
No gorilla glass
I have owned several vibrants and everything that is true for them is true for the sgs4g. The screen is amazing and is protected by gorilla glass. Video playback is second to none. Games play like a dream.
Gps is essentially unusable on most handsets.
The case is cheap feeling and looking.
No flash for camera
I decided video playback and game support was more important than flash and gps but I am upset those are the best choices. You might be wise to just wait for the price to drop on the x2.
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Im coming from sprint. I had both evo and epic. The evo had great devs, while the epic has little to no support at all. CM7 and MIUI are still in alpha stages. I just dont want the sgs4 to be like the epic. I was looking at the lg gxs or whatever their having alot of issues on the first batch released(bleeding screen, phone wont connect to 3g) Mt4g(feels cheap though) sgs4 or nexus are the only ones i would consider getting.
If I could go back in time I would choose the mt4g rooted with cm7, sgs4g has its benefits like said earlier except I don't use it for movies or gaming I bounce between apps often and fast and the sgs4g would sometimes lag.
So I bought the g2x and while it is wicked fast and extremely strong with already great support for development, the phone has its issues and chooses when the issues will come up, I would just go scan the general thread for the g2x real quick
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It seems to me, the SGS4G is slow to get developer support for ROMS and such. That is the only reason I regret owning one. However, after rooting and applying the FOTA fix, it is a cool phone.
From my understanding, phones like the Nexus will have tons of ROMS and customization because they are not tainted by integrations such as Samsung's Touch Wiz and are easier to work with.
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Sgs4g I like the video playback but thats just my opinion. Gps is pretty good for me and it is true no dev support on the sgs4g I mean not as much as other phonea so of you are looking to play around with the phone like changing roms and kernels stuff like that I wouldnt recommend unless you dont mind waiting which is my case I dont mind waiting so I dont have any complaints. One last thing it does lag here and there but is not that bad. Really cant say much about nexus s I havent even play with it. G2x was mentioned it is a beast pgone but I went to the g2x forums and there were a los of complaints with the screen you ahould go check it out. Best thing to do is just go to the forums of each device and read about it, comments and complaints and it would help a lot.
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I think the sgs4g is the best device I've owned but thats after doing some system tweaks like getting root, freezing some apps, alter minfree to strict settings for better ram handling when swapping applications, changing the disk scheduler to deadline, doing the fota files fix and getting a class 6 micro sd card. After all that this phone has never lag or failed period. But out the box...is fast. Once u have used it for about a week or two thats when you could start seing lag by either apps you have downloaded and new services running in the background not counting the unnecesary ones that were already running when you first get it...gps works flawlesly and so does everything else, but thats after you hack the phone the way you want it...
Up to you though...
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The only reason the Nexus s is any faster is because it came stock with the ext4 file system. Our phones have the same file system as the Vibrant (rfs) It is not efficient, and that is where our lag is coming from.
We will start seeing some ROMS that will have ext4 built into them. When we do get this we will see quad scores around 1700-1800. To give you an idea our phones stock will score around 900. EXT4 ruffly doubles the speeds of the system. Now if you add ext4 with an overclocked kernel. The scores will be around if not higher than 2000.
This phone will be very fast and stable in not to long.
Thanks guys for the help. I went to go play with the following phones today:
g2x- Front looks really nice, and the display showed sharped for lcd. BUT my epic seems faster? and the back of the phone is FUGLY I mean the color, color........color lol! Reminds me of those cheap boost mobile off the wall colors. A case may solve that problem but i wouldnt pay 200 for it knowing how the back looked to me.
g2- Fast little thing, seen the potiental of it on xda, pretty much a better looking sprint htc evo shift 4G. BUT the demo hinge was BARELY on the phone. Soo going have to pass on that looks like a future problem.
mt4g- The best one of the group. Fast, comfortable in hand, light and Fast and xda support helps it there in my book. BUT its looks cheap. I mean how the color contrast clash on the phone. If i got one had to be either be the red one or white one.
sgs4- Some idiot STOLE THE DEMO! soooo i gotta go back tomorrow to look at it!!!
Nexus s- Actually locally a guy was selling one on CL. So i meet him to look at it. the screen is awesome of course cause of the superman screen lol! BUT the phone Looks cheaper than the mt4g!!!! I mean its all plastic and black gloss. Drop it and your gonna be hurting really bad. Also you have to deal with best buy and google since they sell it and tmobile just provides the service. I may sound anal but im a complex thinker and i always think ahead of myself.
Whole day of researching and im still confused and dont know which one to get lol!!!!
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Im coming from sprint. I had both evo and epic. The evo had great devs, while the epic has little to no support at all. CM7 and MIUI are still in alpha stages. I just dont want the sgs4 to be like the epic. I was looking at the lg gxs or whatever their having alot of issues on the first batch released(bleeding screen, phone wont connect to 3g) Mt4g(feels cheap though) sgs4 or nexus are the only ones i would consider getting.
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I'm a proud owner of a G2x... though some screens have bleeding issues.... mine doesn't... There are plenty of G2x's that are doing just fine, it's just easier to complain.... If you do have issues, you will have a 1 year warranty which means you will be able to switch it when new batches come out and by then issues should have been fixed... Whatever you do BUY THE PHONE IN STORE to test the device... Play with the settings and everything! If you are going to get a phone GET THE BEST there is to offer you and right now that would be the G2x...
SGS4G and Nexus S both have their flaws and are similar devices... The Nexus S isn't 4g capable (if that matters to you)... the SGS4G isn't anything to dazzle over and the Touch Wiz UI isn't my favorite... If you can wait a little longer it may be worth looking at the HTC Sensation...
No offense but i dont see why people rave so much about the sensation. Its a dual core evo 4g. Had two evo 4g when i was with sprint.......Nothing special. Sure it will probably have a bunch of dev support. But to me its not something wanting on for.
But after reading more reviews and seeing on the g2x side. Its not seeming so bad now. Also you have to consider that im coming to tmobile so late while the g2 mt4g and nexus s are kinda old i guess you can say. Even though the g2 and mt4g will get 2.3 but i think thats about it for them as OTA updates.
the Nexus S 4G...on TMO...would be......oh wait...why am I dreaming again
Get teh Samsung Galaxy S4G if you're planning to get a data plan and actually use it
SGS4
Very low internal space, 200MB as apposed to the Vibrants 16G. The phone benchmarks pretty low. But it does have the fastest antenna at 21mbs.
Nexus S
Wow it has a curved screen..... but no SD card support???? Why? Pretty cool but the download speeds will be lower because no 4g support.
If you're looking for the best I suggest the G2x or G2. I personaly use the G2 and it is amazing. But tmo just launched the G2x and it is to die for. Amazing 8MP camera, dual core processor, hdmi out for hdtv support. Get that if anything, the two phones you're deciding between have already been out dated by the G2x.
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Wait til the Sensation or even better the SGS 2....but wait something will come out better right after...mytouch 4g slide anyone...??
It sounds like the price is a concern of the op.... I say go for the nexus s... the network speed increase with the sgs4g is not enough to overcome the lack of developer support. And its cheaper. Then again... the g2x is your best choice ATM... if you have the $$$.
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I had the SGS4G and exchanged it for the G2x and I have no regrets. This phone is amazingly fast and responsive and dev support is already awesome. Within 2 or 3 days the phone had clockworkmod working through ROM manager.
Pretty amazing. Plus Cyanogen, Team Whiskey and others already got the phone and are working on the ROM.
If you still have a choice I say go with the G2x. Dual core is future proof. Just came out, so this phone will probably be good for the next 2 years.
Hope that helps with your decision
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Galaxy s 2
I'd wait for galaxy s 2! I think i will be the best phone for a while

This phone is so badass

I hardly ever start posts like this, but I just felt I needed to say that this phone is freaking awesome. In the past year and a half, I have had the hd2, mytouch4g, g2x (briefly), and was seriously considering buying the gs2. As a matter of fact, when I received this phone as a warranty for the mt4g, I said "well, it will hold me over until the gs2 comes out/I have money for it." I don't even want that thing anymore. I truly feel this phone is one of the best on the markets, if not the best. The best camera, tv out, excellent processor and memory, and a fine hardware keyboard. Never thought I would use the last one as much as I do now.
At the beginning, this phone was lacking in devs, but romanb, blue, and undead breathed new life into it. Now we are getting more and more devs who can only bring more to the table. My hat's off to all the devs. I think from here, this phone can only go up. Truly one of the most overlooked phones imo.
I agree, this is one of the best! I have a feeling that it is just going to get better, I am seeing more and more new people over here, so maybe we will finally get the attention this phone deserves. I always have the best phone out of most groups of people. I even amazed an Iphone user the other day. (everyone at my school has Iphones, I don't know why).
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I agree, this is one of the best! I have a feeling that it is just going to get better, I am seeing more and more new people over here, so maybe we will finally get the attention this phone deserves. I always have the best phone out of most groups of people. I even amazed an Iphone user the other day. (everyone at my school has Iphones, I don't know why).
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iPhone users are special people. Need I say more?
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I'm still holding out hope that kornyone delivers on a functional RC version of any CM.
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I'm still holding out hope that kornyone delivers on a functional RC version of any CM.
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Yeah even though im a Sense user id love to give cm9 a try, the only one ive tried was a quick dirty but very smooth build
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Iphone users are seriously amazed at what my phone can do. Other android users are astonished by the battery life. Everyone is impressed with the camera and tv out.
Just came over from the G2. Glad to be here Especially with all the new support in the works.
We really need to push more G2 owners to move to this device.
I was playing GTA 3 on my G2, and you could tell the hardware had reached its limit. Not bad, but laggy at times. I know it's asking a lot from my phone, but it made me realize that it's not as invincible as I thought. OCed to 2GHz and you could cook an egg on the back of it.
This phone has just that much beef under the hood. Exactly what I need
I like the phone Just wish it was thinner and had a bigger screen. But Pyro Ice is great.. Really hoping for CM9.
I agree 100%. This phone is worth every penny.
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I broke my mt4g last time and was offered the slide as a replacement... I was thinking about how bulky it could be. Though, I picked another mt4g, then I researched the comparison of the two I was like F€#$!! I wished I had picked the slide. I called them back before they sent out the phone, but it was too late..
Couldn't think of a way to brick my current one.. LMAO!!
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I broke my mt4g last time and was offered the slide as a replacement... I was thinking about how bulky it could be. Though, I picked another mt4g, then I researched the comparison of the two I was like F€#$!! I wished I had picked the slide. I called them back before they sent out the phone, but it was too late..
Couldn't think of a way to brick my current one.. LMAO!!
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hahahaha too bad, so sad buddy.
You had a great opportunity to score one of these babies
It's actually not that different in terms of size compared to the MyTouch 4G.
A little thicker and heavier because of the keyboard, but very impressive
Best part about this phone is that it will outlast the devices from its time, ie Sensation both XE and 4G, Amze 4G. Most of these devices have a much higher resolution than the DS, 9xx by 5xx vs 840 by 480, thus the adreno 220 on the DS will be able to handle more load before it hits its ceiling.
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Best part about this phone is that it will outlast the devices from its time, ie Sensation both XE and 4G, Amze 4G. Most of these devices have a much higher resolution than the DS, 9xx by 5xx vs 840 by 480, thus the adreno 220 on the DS will be able to handle more load before it hits its ceiling.
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I'd really like to see how phones can get better than this...
If I'm only moderately compelled to upgrade to this device from the G2, it will be much harder to justify my next phone purchase.
How a dual core phone will be pushed to its limit? I have no idea.
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I'd really like to see how phones can get better than this...
If I'm only moderately compelled to upgrade to this device from the G2, it will be much harder to justify my next phone purchase.
How a dual core phone will be pushed to its limit? I have no idea.
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Games are probably going to be the first to do so.
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