[Q] How do I backup before surgery? - Captivate General

I am planning to remove ATT junk from my Captivate phone. I have rooted it already. But I want to create a full backup before I start major surgery work on it because I am still testing the phone and within 30days period.
If I find it not a good experience, I may want to return it. And all I want to do at the time is restore from this backup, unroot and return.
Is there a way to achieve this easily on Captivate? Coming from G1, which was easy to hack into. In fact I even wrote a script for it at some point of time.
Also, there are tonnes of ROMs on this forum. Which one is considered the most stable 2.2 ROM?

Rom manager
Flash clockwork
Backup
Your good to go

mcord11758 said:
Rom manager
Flash clockwork
Backup
Your good to go
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That would mean that I need to undo more stuff (remove recovery and rom manager) if I want to return. I heard something about a temporary recovery from Koush which goes away with a reboot. Does that have a backup built into it? Or are u talking about the same thing?

dl this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=464425&d=1292362952
Place on internal sd
Boot recovery using 3 button
ReInstall packages
Repeat
Backup and restore
Backup all

mcord11758 said:
dl this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=464425&d=1292362952
Place on internal sd
Boot recovery using 3 button
ReInstall packages
Repeat
Backup and restore
Backup all
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what is that?...:-D

devsk said:
what is that?...:-D
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Update.zip that gives you clockwork recovery. Do not need to be rooted to use this. Can backup and flash roms

Everything always sems so easy when your already know what you're talking about. But to Idiots and newbies its all strange phrases with no links attached and unknown abbreviations tha only frustrate I wish people would just explaiin just wtf it is they are talking about.
That link for clock work recovery does work and when you press the backup button in Rom manager, The phone will reboot in to recovery mode where you will then select the option to reinstall packages. Then you will be taken to a menu in which you can select to "back up and Restore" your current "Rom"(Stock, unrooted, rooted whatver), just select it and wait a few minutes and then you are backed up!
THen just select reboot.
"Man i didn't realize it how complicated it really is just to make something simple for someone to understand" - a lazy/smart person

Also Rom Manager in the market is great if you are rooted, Makes getting clockwork easy and flashing a breeze Great program, but if you are flashing kernels beware you must backup your kernel separately from your rom because Rom Manager doesn't recognize .zip files by certain kernel flashers SGS kernel Im Prety sure of that I'll hope someone corrects me on that or edit When i find out.
"Just Sayin"

If you've rooted and flashed on a G1 then you should be good. It's not that hard.

matmanchu5 said:
Also Rom Manager in the market is great if you are rooted, Makes getting clockwork easy and flashing a breeze Great program, but if you are flashing kernels beware you must backup your kernel separately from your rom because Rom Manager doesn't recognize .zip files by certain kernel flashers SGS kernel Im Prety sure of that I'll hope someone corrects me on that or edit When i find out.
"Just Sayin"
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Rom manager is a good tool for people getting started, all it is though is a user interface for clockwork recovery. Once you learn how to use clockwork rom manager is relatively useless. Especially when on roms with custom recovery.
You are correct rom manager does not backup kernel or modem. You can not restore a backup of stock over a custom rom without flashing stock kernel and modem

matmanchu5 said:
Everything always sems so easy when your already know what you're talking about. But to Idiots and newbies its all strange phrases with no links attached and unknown abbreviations tha only frustrate I wish people would just explaiin just wtf it is they are talking about.
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Amen, brother!

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[Q] Need some clarification on a couple of things regarding my rooted Mesmerize

Ok, I've got to ask this, even though I know it could probably be pieced together with just the right posts from the forum here. But I've got several mental issues, one of those being comprehending at times, and also I have a bad problem with wording sometimes. So if I can't find all the information I need in a single place (maybe two lol), then the chances of me screwing something up are immensely increased. So please just bear with me, and lemme see if I can spit this out as simply as possible.
I've just rooted my USCC Mesmerize with SuperOneClick, so now I need to know some things. Forgive me if they seem out of order at all, but just gonna ask as they come to my mind.
I wanted to install the Voodoo kernel. Do I have to flash a custom ROM before I can do this, or can I do it just by rooting the phone and having all the OEM software untouched?
I'm pretty sure that no matter what I choose to do next, that I first need to do a full back-up of my phone in case of error. I saw the post mentioning the install of Titanium Backup and then ROM Manager. Before I go and install anything, I just wanna make sure that it IS one of those 2 apps that I'm supposed to use to make that initial back-up. And if not, what app would it be?
I know that CWM has to be installed sometime also. Also in the same post I mentioned above, the OP stated "In ROM Manager I did "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery" and chose the Fascinate option and was told that it downloaded the latest ClockworkMod Recovery.". So what I now need to clarify is this. Does ROM Manager just download the newest ClockworkMod Recovery files and then I have to install them manually via the forum sticky, or does it download AND install them completely for me?
And I've seen/heard a lot all night as I've been researching about Nandroid back-ups. But am unclear at this point as to which app is responsible for making those. Not sure if it's one I've already mentioned above, or a totally different one I may have missed. So help there would also be much appreciated.
At this moment, I think those are all the questions I really need a little more clarity on. Other than that, I think I can handle it by myself for the time being. And thank you again for bearing with me as I learn my way around a little bit more. I chose this forum out of all the others I stumbled across last night due to the level of professionalism I've seen so far here. I just wish the other Dev forum I've been a member of for a long time had the same level of professionalism that I've seen here so far lol.
lets try this again...
1. first thing you need to do is flash cwm on your phone...follow the directions on the page...link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=850898
2. figure out what Rom you wanna flash...link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=890
3. finally...flash the voodoo kernel onto your phone and make sure to get the one for the mesmerize...link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871915
4. as far as backing up you can use titanium or flash your mesmerize back to stock...link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881064
all this worked well for me and i hope it works just as well or better for you!
I hate to say this, but you confused the hell out of me and I've written a lot of how-to's on every one of these subjects.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
1. Install RomManager from the marketplace. Then, in RomManager, install ClockworkMod Reocvery. However, you need to follow the steps in the CWM thread to get it to work correctly.
2. After you have clockworkmod recovery working, do a Nandroid backup. You can do this from RomManager and should. Titanium backups are for apps and such.
3. After you backup immediately flash the Voodoo kernel for the Mesmerize with Voodoo Sound. It's great! But more importantly, it flashes a 'permanent' recovery onto your phone so you can boot straight into a functional recovery and not have to use ODIN.
4. Find ROMs you like and install them. Make sure you always wipe your data before a ROM flash. When you want to go back to your stock ROM, just restore your backup from the recovery.
Note, after you install the Voodoo kernel it will take a while to boot because it is converting your phone's filesystem. Once you have Voodoo enabled you should not flash another kernel unless you turn off the Voodoo lagfix. This can be done in recovery menu it provides.

Clockwork Mod Help

Trying to get Clockwork mod to work and am Screwing it up I guess. I bought Rom Manager trying to download a Rom thru it but it doesnt want to let me do this. So I guess I am going to try Precision. I downloaded it and have it on the SD card but it seems to be doing something wierd. I did a titanium backup of my apps. How do I save my current Rom incase I screw pooch? Please help a clueless tired of waiting on ATT newb
PS Phone was already rooted prior to Rom Manager
Need to do the following to get clock work installed. Its not a signed install so you need to mod the boot loader
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909213&highlight=signature
Where to start?
Did you flash clockwork, top option.in rom manager
You are on 2.1 correct
Ok this just got confusing. Do I just put this file on SD card too or does this require more steps?
Yes I did that and it says I have Current Recovery ClockworkMod 2.5.1.2
If you have clockwork recovery you can flash.
When you say backing up your rom are you looking for a way back to stock
Yes. In case I screw the pooch. But what about what tnerb said about modifying the boot loader???
PS Yes I am on 2.1 and was rooted prior to putting Rom Manager on phone
PPS should I also delete everythign off SD card before continuing
jpinks said:
Yes. In case I screw the pooch. But what about what tnerb said about modifying the boot loader???
he assumed you were on 2.2, disregard
Do you know what odin is?
At&t or rogers
what did you back up with titanium
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I am on ATT , Backup all user apps is the batch backup I did and copied that backup to the pc. Should I do the all user apps and system data. Yes I know of Odin but the download links to it arent working, from the stickied post.
No system apps, just user
Give me a favor, turn phone off, pull battery, under battery white sticker on phone, top left, build number, between 1006-1012. What is yours
Sorry stupid otterbox is fighting got it off now
Its 1009 build
Odin dl to pc just in case
http://www.fileserve.com/file/emnCn2j
Do you have your contacts backed up
Usb drivers installed
Yeah drivers are installed. I have been using Kies for media transfers. I was hoping Samsung would make it a usefull program but I dont think that will ever happen. I thought TBU backed that up when I backed up my phone.
If you want to flash its easy, probably should take the time to understand, but I can get you flashed quick
Sure I appreciate the help. I hate to say most of the tutorials online suck. LOL
Cant I just save my contacts to the Sim and be ok?
So what is it, get me there now, be safe and learn. I am bored, nothing new ro flash
Be safe and learn is always good with me
Do you use gtalk

[Q] how 2 b pr0 leik u guys

Okay. Ignore the title, I couldn't think of anything to put. In short, I want to know about roms, about clockworkmod, cyanogen mod, and stuff like that. What they do, how to put them on, and I pretty much wanna know about the general stuff you do past rooting your phone. And I know that the section says No Noobs, but technically, I'm a newb, as far as I know i'm not annoying anyone or being completely nooblike.
Mainly with cyanogen. I read the instructions, and they seem too, I dont know, simplistic. I'd prefer exact details. Like, after I have clockwork mod installed, and I flash cyanogen, can i restore all the stuff I had on it? And once cyanogen is on there, is it already rooted, or must i root again? And if someone would explain to me how clockworkmod works in the first place. And how would I flash cyanogen? I thought it'd be through clockworkmod, but if I wipe everything and factory reset, wouldn't clockworkmod be gone?
My phone is a Samsung Galaxy S (Vibrant or not vibrant, I dont even know) It's a GT-i9000M. Running android 2.2.1, Rooted, I have clockworkmod installed, but still no idea what to do past that point. Also, my Kies isn't telling me about any 3.x upgrade, so how would i go about manually installing a new version of android? I know it has to do with Odin, but whenever i tried i ended up not doing anything.
And one last thing about MetaMorph. Where could i find themes for it? And do i need to have a certain Rom running in order to use metamorph themes?
I'm mainly used to iPhones and such, where there isnt really much to do besides jailbreaking and such, and moving on to android phones is pretty intense. XD So much more to do with Android phones.
Well uh, thats about all i can think of at the moment. Also please post anything you feel that a (somewhat) newb to android modding should know.
Sorry for all the questions, and to those that help me, I love you. <3
And if any moderators deem this thread as against the 'No Noobs' rule, at least send me a message telling me you deleted it, or else I'll end up looking endlessly through the forums for my thread. I've done that before, not fun. LOL (Couldn't find a 'My Threads' thingy on the forum i was using.
Gutana said:
Okay. Ignore the title, I couldn't think of anything to put. In short, I want to know about roms, about clockworkmod, cyanogen mod, and stuff like that. What they do, how to put them on, and I pretty much wanna know about the general stuff you do past rooting your phone. And I know that the section says No Noobs, but technically, I'm a newb, as far as I know i'm not annoying anyone or being completely nooblike.
Mainly with cyanogen. I read the instructions, and they seem too, I dont know, simplistic. I'd prefer exact details. Like, after I have clockwork mod installed, and I flash cyanogen, can i restore all the stuff I had on it? And once cyanogen is on there, is it already rooted, or must i root again? And if someone would explain to me how clockworkmod works in the first place. And how would I flash cyanogen? I thought it'd be through clockworkmod, but if I wipe everything and factory reset, wouldn't clockworkmod be gone?
My phone is a Samsung Galaxy S (Vibrant or not vibrant, I dont even know) It's a GT-i9000M. Running android 2.2.1, Rooted, I have clockworkmod installed, but still no idea what to do past that point. Also, my Kies isn't telling me about any 3.x upgrade, so how would i go about manually installing a new version of android? I know it has to do with Odin, but whenever i tried i ended up not doing anything.
And one last thing about MetaMorph. Where could i find themes for it? And do i need to have a certain Rom running in order to use metamorph themes?
I'm mainly used to iPhones and such, where there isnt really much to do besides jailbreaking and such, and moving on to android phones is pretty intense. XD So much more to do with Android phones.
Well uh, thats about all i can think of at the moment. Also please post anything you feel that a (somewhat) newb to android modding should know.
Sorry for all the questions, and to those that help me, I love you. <3
And if any moderators deem this thread as against the 'No Noobs' rule, at least send me a message telling me you deleted it, or else I'll end up looking endlessly through the forums for my thread. I've done that before, not fun. LOL (Couldn't find a 'My Threads' thingy on the forum i was using.
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Well, I guess to first start off, here's a few pointers:
1. don't put the title in 1337 (people will most likely not click on it, thus no help)
2. you're right about this being the wrong thread. You should post this under the Samsung Galaxy S section (google your model number and you'll see it instantly) and should probably try the Q&A moreso than a general area (but it doesn't really matter all too much)
3. no matter how nooblike you may or may not be, you're still a noob XD
Now that we've gotten past the anally parts and all (hate doing that, but gotta =P), let's talk about what you came here for: answers.
Let's start with some definitions:
ROMs - these are the (usually modded) softwares that you flash to your phone. Depending on which phone you have, you can only flash ROMs made for your phone. Of course, if you have root/custom recovery, you can also install custom ROMs.
ClockWorkMod (CWM) is a recovery system made in order to allow people more features while they're in recovery mode. Of course, this is one of a few out there, but people stick to CWM cause of its huge support plus it's popularity. When you think of CWM, think of custom features being installed in (almost) one step (modding files and such will be taken care of for you, so you don't have to do it yourself). You can usually also fix a bricked system this way by reflashing either the entire ROM or the boot.img/other files (we'll get to this in a second)
CyanogenMod (CM) is an example of a very popular custom rom. They have a great team and usually is available for most devices, which in turn makes them so popular. It is widely supported and has a lot of extra features like updating to the latest OS and features not previously available on your phone. It's skinned, but usually follows the stock Android look for the OS in which they've skinned.
lol The reason why the instructions look so simple is because they've taken out all the hard work and all the stuff where you can possibly screw up your phone, so that they don't get a million messages saying "OMG MY PHONE BRICKED WHAT HAPPENED" and stuff like that. Protects them, makes it easier for you. If you had made a backup before you flashed CM (usually you only have to back up whats on the phone if it has internal and external memory, but back up your sd card always just in case. never hurt to), then yes. If you backed it up with your previous ROM, then you'll probably need to revert to get it back. If you didn't, chances are whatever you didn't backup and didn't sync, is safe to say gone. You can try recovering it using a recovery software on the computer like i detailed here for another person, but of course you'd skip the whole trying to save the phone part and just start with mounting the phone to your computer and running the software.
CM is a custom rom, and so most (if not all) custom roms have root preinstalled (besides, who wouldn't want root?!) As for CWM, it works by being (usually) flashed into the recovery partition of your phone. The nice thing about the phone is that it's split up into parts: boot, recovery, system, and some other ones i can't think of off the top of my head. Those three are important, as if you get a softbrick, you might still be able to recover all your data simply by using CWM/fastboot (a dev-tool used to flash/unlock, but only available in certain phones, as it is disabled usually) to reflash the boot.img (one requires command line, whereas CWM only needs you to flash a created/pre-made package). Also, since they're in separate partitions, even if your system and boot.img doesn't work, you can probably still access recovery (unless you screwed up really REALLY bad, and in that case I can't help >.<)
Observant you are =] Yes, if you were to flash CM, your CWM will be gone (i don't understand why most people don't just bake it into the ROM in the first place) but, not all is lost. Just go back into the Android Market and redownload ROM Manager. Of course you'll need to open it up and flash the same exact recovery again (annoying, isn't it?) but unless you know how to mod zip/img files and edit the script, you'll just have to make do with that. If you do, you could just (usually) take out the recovery partition and just leave the one you have already in there (but its usually safer and better to just redownload/reflash it as annoying as it is). But yes, you would use CWM to flash it. It's as simple as "Install from SD Card" which is why custom recoveries like CWM are popular. So simple
At this point, I would look into a few things. One is skinning your phone (though you probably can't do too much if you don't want to touch system files). If you find a psuedo-rom (slightly modded) that themes it, that's your best bet. Another is gaining access to certain features in apps you didn't have before (i.e. androidLost, LBE Privacy Guard, titanium backup) and of course more control by the ability to control your system files (if you know what you're doing, of course). Lastly, you can use stuff like MetaMorph to theme out certain sections of your rom (provided that they give you one compatible with your phone model/rom), minus having to flash it and having more fine-tuned controlled. Usually, Metamorph will run on all ROMs, but it doesn't guarantee that there'll be stuff for every ROM. Also, want themes? google it (google is your best friend!)
Kies won't tell you that you have an upgrade because it is ROM-dependent. It looks for their official ROM and says "Hey, this guy has our ROM. Check for an update". Think of owning a custom rom like being kicked out of your family. You won't get anymore updates from them XD. However, if you're looking to get the latest updates, check out the Samsung Galaxy S Dev threads. They will usually have another method of loading in the new ROM into your phone. And if you want to stick with ROM Manager, shell out for premium and they'll include "Check for Updates" in ROM Manager, along with several other functions (though you can check for free via computer/browser ). Mostly, manually updating the software requires the "Install from SD Card" feature in CWM/other recoveries, so you don't have much to worry about.
Odin is, as you stated, most likely your best bet. Not too many people repackage official ROMs into easy-to-flash zips. Odin is the Samsung equivalent to Motorola's RSD Lite from what I googled (i have motorola, so no exp. on odin >.<) It's mostly like a dev tool allowing you to flash/re-flash phones and is also usually your one-way ticket out of a semi/full brick (assuming you didn't mess up the hardware and you can get into download mode). It's the flashing tool that can access the core system of the phone even without root and allows you to reflash OFFICIAL ROMs. Should you use Odin (should be your last resort), you WILL lose root and all your data. No questions asked. Its like reinstalling everything to the state in which you got it in when you bought the phone. Word of advice: BACK UP OFTEN! (did i forget to mention Titanium Backup? )
Yeah, the transition from Apple to Android is so different and had I not had experience with my PSP, i'd be dying with the information overload. However, just read a lot of stuff on the forums (*cough*general android forums*cough*) and you should be just fine. We have an excellent community here that will try our best to fix whatever problems you encounter (note the key word: try. we're not gods XD) You'll get the hang of it soon enough.
Oh, well, I don't want to keep you for much longer, but since you mentioned something that any noob should know, it's definitely ADB (Android Debugging Bridge). This is where you'll probably spend a lot of time, as people's fixes usually involve shell (terminal for your phone). If anything, get acquainted with it, as it might save your butt in the future/unlock a few extra features for you ;D .
Well, that's all i can think of, and honestly, after typing this thing up for about an hour now, I think I'm going to grab me some breakfast Good luck to you and welcome to the Android commmunity! (and next time, remember to post in the right place! XD)
~jojojohnson7410
P.S. PM me if you need anything. =]
Observant you are =] Yes, if you were to flash CM, your CWM will be gone (i don't understand why most people don't just bake it into the ROM in the first place) but, not all is lost. Just go back into the Android Market and redownload ROM Manager. Of course you'll need to open it up and flash the same exact recovery again (annoying, isn't it?) but unless you know how to mod zip/img files and edit the script, you'll just have to make do with that. If you do, you could just (usually) take out the recovery partition and just leave the one you have already in there (but its usually safer and better to just redownload/reflash it as annoying as it is). But yes, you would use CWM to flash it. It's as simple as "Install from SD Card" which is why custom recoveries like CWM are popular. So simple
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Just to nit-pick a bit. CWM is part of the recovery partition, and unless the Galaxy S is different from every other android device, flashing will not remove it. ROM Manager and CWM are two different things. ROM manager will allow you to download the roms, which will then instruct CWM to flash the rom (when it reboots).
jojojohnson7410 said:
Well, I guess to first start off, here's a few pointers:
1. don't put the title in 1337 (people will most likely not click on it, thus no help)
2. you're right about this being the wrong thread. You should post this under the Samsung Galaxy S section (google your model number and you'll see it instantly) and should probably try the Q&A moreso than a general area (but it doesn't really matter all too much)
3. no matter how nooblike you may or may not be, you're still a noob XD
Now that we've gotten past the anally parts and all (hate doing that, but gotta =P), let's talk about what you came here for: answers.
Let's start with some definitions:
ROMs - these are the (usually modded) softwares that you flash to your phone. Depending on which phone you have, you can only flash ROMs made for your phone. Of course, if you have root/custom recovery, you can also install custom ROMs.
ClockWorkMod (CWM) is a recovery system made in order to allow people more features while they're in recovery mode. Of course, this is one of a few out there, but people stick to CWM cause of its huge support plus it's popularity. When you think of CWM, think of custom features being installed in (almost) one step (modding files and such will be taken care of for you, so you don't have to do it yourself). You can usually also fix a bricked system this way by reflashing either the entire ROM or the boot.img/other files (we'll get to this in a second)
CyanogenMod (CM) is an example of a very popular custom rom. They have a great team and usually is available for most devices, which in turn makes them so popular. It is widely supported and has a lot of extra features like updating to the latest OS and features not previously available on your phone. It's skinned, but usually follows the stock Android look for the OS in which they've skinned.
lol The reason why the instructions look so simple is because they've taken out all the hard work and all the stuff where you can possibly screw up your phone, so that they don't get a million messages saying "OMG MY PHONE BRICKED WHAT HAPPENED" and stuff like that. Protects them, makes it easier for you. If you had made a backup before you flashed CM (usually you only have to back up whats on the phone if it has internal and external memory, but back up your sd card always just in case. never hurt to), then yes. If you backed it up with your previous ROM, then you'll probably need to revert to get it back. If you didn't, chances are whatever you didn't backup and didn't sync, is safe to say gone. You can try recovering it using a recovery software on the computer like i detailed here for another person, but of course you'd skip the whole trying to save the phone part and just start with mounting the phone to your computer and running the software.
CM is a custom rom, and so most (if not all) custom roms have root preinstalled (besides, who wouldn't want root?!) As for CWM, it works by being (usually) flashed into the recovery partition of your phone. The nice thing about the phone is that it's split up into parts: boot, recovery, system, and some other ones i can't think of off the top of my head. Those three are important, as if you get a softbrick, you might still be able to recover all your data simply by using CWM/fastboot (a dev-tool used to flash/unlock, but only available in certain phones, as it is disabled usually) to reflash the boot.img (one requires command line, whereas CWM only needs you to flash a created/pre-made package). Also, since they're in separate partitions, even if your system and boot.img doesn't work, you can probably still access recovery (unless you screwed up really REALLY bad, and in that case I can't help >.<)
Observant you are =] Yes, if you were to flash CM, your CWM will be gone (i don't understand why most people don't just bake it into the ROM in the first place) but, not all is lost. Just go back into the Android Market and redownload ROM Manager. Of course you'll need to open it up and flash the same exact recovery again (annoying, isn't it?) but unless you know how to mod zip/img files and edit the script, you'll just have to make do with that. If you do, you could just (usually) take out the recovery partition and just leave the one you have already in there (but its usually safer and better to just redownload/reflash it as annoying as it is). But yes, you would use CWM to flash it. It's as simple as "Install from SD Card" which is why custom recoveries like CWM are popular. So simple
At this point, I would look into a few things. One is skinning your phone (though you probably can't do too much if you don't want to touch system files). If you find a psuedo-rom (slightly modded) that themes it, that's your best bet. Another is gaining access to certain features in apps you didn't have before (i.e. androidLost, LBE Privacy Guard, titanium backup) and of course more control by the ability to control your system files (if you know what you're doing, of course). Lastly, you can use stuff like MetaMorph to theme out certain sections of your rom (provided that they give you one compatible with your phone model/rom), minus having to flash it and having more fine-tuned controlled. Usually, Metamorph will run on all ROMs, but it doesn't guarantee that there'll be stuff for every ROM. Also, want themes? google it (google is your best friend!)
Kies won't tell you that you have an upgrade because it is ROM-dependent. It looks for their official ROM and says "Hey, this guy has our ROM. Check for an update". Think of owning a custom rom like being kicked out of your family. You won't get anymore updates from them XD. However, if you're looking to get the latest updates, check out the Samsung Galaxy S Dev threads. They will usually have another method of loading in the new ROM into your phone. And if you want to stick with ROM Manager, shell out for premium and they'll include "Check for Updates" in ROM Manager, along with several other functions (though you can check for free via computer/browser ). Mostly, manually updating the software requires the "Install from SD Card" feature in CWM/other recoveries, so you don't have much to worry about.
Odin is, as you stated, most likely your best bet. Not too many people repackage official ROMs into easy-to-flash zips. Odin is the Samsung equivalent to Motorola's RSD Lite from what I googled (i have motorola, so no exp. on odin >.<) It's mostly like a dev tool allowing you to flash/re-flash phones and is also usually your one-way ticket out of a semi/full brick (assuming you didn't mess up the hardware and you can get into download mode). It's the flashing tool that can access the core system of the phone even without root and allows you to reflash OFFICIAL ROMs. Should you use Odin (should be your last resort), you WILL lose root and all your data. No questions asked. Its like reinstalling everything to the state in which you got it in when you bought the phone. Word of advice: BACK UP OFTEN! (did i forget to mention Titanium Backup? )
Yeah, the transition from Apple to Android is so different and had I not had experience with my PSP, i'd be dying with the information overload. However, just read a lot of stuff on the forums (*cough*general android forums*cough*) and you should be just fine. We have an excellent community here that will try our best to fix whatever problems you encounter (note the key word: try. we're not gods XD) You'll get the hang of it soon enough.
Oh, well, I don't want to keep you for much longer, but since you mentioned something that any noob should know, it's definitely ADB (Android Debugging Bridge). This is where you'll probably spend a lot of time, as people's fixes usually involve shell (terminal for your phone). If anything, get acquainted with it, as it might save your butt in the future/unlock a few extra features for you ;D .
Well, that's all i can think of, and honestly, after typing this thing up for about an hour now, I think I'm going to grab me some breakfast Good luck to you and welcome to the Android commmunity! (and next time, remember to post in the right place! XD)
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Wow, thanks a lot. I still have a question or two, bear with me.
Well for one, is flashing roms made for different firmwares alright, or no? Since I have 2.2, and im assuming the latest cyanogen is made for 3.x, would I have to upgrade my firmware to the corresponding firmware.
And about Clockwork, if my phone bricks, I'd have to restore using odin, right? But if the phone still works, i can just root and cwm and restore it using rom manager?
And uh, I'm not sure if this is a problem or im just doing something wrong, but in RomManager, i click Backup Current ROM, and it goes into recovery mode, and theres no new options, there's just like, format, factory reset, clear cache, reboot, but nothing involving rom manager. And when i check for the recovery file in my sd card, it's not. Wut do.
WoZZeR999 said:
Just to nit-pick a bit. CWM is part of the recovery partition, and unless the Galaxy S is different from every other android device, flashing will not remove it. ROM Manager and CWM are two different things. ROM manager will allow you to download the roms, which will then instruct CWM to flash the rom (when it reboots).
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lol true true that would be my mistake. XD Nice catch
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Gutana said:
Wow, thanks a lot. I still have a question or two, bear with me.
Well for one, is flashing roms made for different firmwares alright, or no? Since I have 2.2, and im assuming the latest cyanogen is made for 3.x, would I have to upgrade my firmware to the corresponding firmware.
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No, you wouldn't have to upgrade to the latest firmware to get the ROM installed. So long as the ROM is confirmed to work for your device, you can flash any ROM you want (which is convenient in my case since I have an Atrix 4G and it was oh-so-lonely without some Gingerbread XD)
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And about Clockwork, if my phone bricks, I'd have to restore using odin, right? But if the phone still works, i can just root and cwm and restore it using rom manager?
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Well, the thing is, you really only need that usually if you're on a stock rom or some official version and either you want to flash a new stock ROM from Samsung or you want to pull your phone out of a brick. Most of the time, however, even if you bricked it, so long as you can get into the recovery menu, you'll be alright. Just re-flash the ROM that you want (or in my case yesterday when I was dealing with an Inspire, I had to use a different ROM to unbrick the phone. I don't know why this happen, but it was being nit-picky >.<)
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And uh, I'm not sure if this is a problem or im just doing something wrong, but in RomManager, i click Backup Current ROM, and it goes into recovery mode, and theres no new options, there's just like, format, factory reset, clear cache, reboot, but nothing involving rom manager. And when i check for the recovery file in my sd card, it's not. Wut do.
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lol nooo this is not a problem at all. See, like the guy above me posted, the Recovery Menu is completely separate from anything in the ROM. It's located in the recovery partition rather than the system and the boot partitions, so they usually don't touch the recovery. ROM Manager is just a means of providing GUI to CWM so then you can either flash the CWM to your phone or help download ROMS into your SD card. Stuff like backup and everything needs you to boot into recovery as you can't be backing up the system while your system is mounted on, so they send you to CWM. From there, there's an option called "backup and restore". In this place, you can choose where to save the backup. And since the backup is made by CWM, it will be recognized by CWM if you want to restore it. I think it saves it in a zip file, but im not 100% positive, so take that one with a grain of salt.
Hope this answers the questions! Let me know if you need more help (or just PM me. I check that regularly )
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jojojohnson7410 said:
No, you wouldn't have to upgrade to the latest firmware to get the ROM installed. So long as the ROM is confirmed to work for your device, you can flash any ROM you want (which is convenient in my case since I have an Atrix 4G and it was oh-so-lonely without some Gingerbread XD)
Well, the thing is, you really only need that usually if you're on a stock rom or some official version and either you want to flash a new stock ROM from Samsung or you want to pull your phone out of a brick. Most of the time, however, even if you bricked it, so long as you can get into the recovery menu, you'll be alright. Just re-flash the ROM that you want (or in my case yesterday when I was dealing with an Inspire, I had to use a different ROM to unbrick the phone. I don't know why this happen, but it was being nit-picky >.<)
lol nooo this is not a problem at all. See, like the guy above me posted, the Recovery Menu is completely separate from anything in the ROM. It's located in the recovery partition rather than the system and the boot partitions, so they usually don't touch the recovery. ROM Manager is just a means of providing GUI to CWM so then you can either flash the CWM to your phone or help download ROMS into your SD card. Stuff like backup and everything needs you to boot into recovery as you can't be backing up the system while your system is mounted on, so they send you to CWM. From there, there's an option called "backup and restore". In this place, you can choose where to save the backup. And since the backup is made by CWM, it will be recognized by CWM if you want to restore it. I think it saves it in a zip file, but im not 100% positive, so take that one with a grain of salt.
Hope this answers the questions! Let me know if you need more help (or just PM me. I check that regularly )
~jojojohnson7410
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But theres no backup and restore options, its jut the recovery options you'd get if you were on a brand new phone.

ClockWorkMod on SGH-T959V

I've tried everything I can think of to get ClockWorkMod working on the SGH-T959V. I have rooted the phone with SuperOneClick and I've installed ROM Manager. After I start rom manager and select 'Flash ClockworkMod'. I get a list of 4 phones and mine isn't listed, the closest one is the Samsung GalaxyS i9000 which I have tried but when I reboot into recovery I never get the ClockworkMod Recovery.
Any ideas are greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Rom manager doesn't work with our phones to get cwm you have to flash a kernel that has it in it
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1) DO NOT use ROM Manager (or as Raver memorably put it, ROM Mangler) on this phone - you will mess it up.
2) Any of the modified kernels in the Development section will give you CWM. Try AntonX's kernel (assuming you are on a stock ROM) - I found it gave best results. Use the SGS Kernel Flasher from the Market/Play - it's the easiest way to install a new kernel.
3) Before asking any more questions, read Read READ. Read the guides and the stickies, then read them again. I have found the guides of lumin30 and juls317 to be very helpful.
If your phone is still on Froyo, then look in the Dev section for Krylon360's recovery. If you're on Gingerbread then read the post above this one as there are plenty of ROMs/kernels for this phone that have CWM.
Really man, do you read.
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The easiest way is just get one of the one click packages. I just updated the thread today. Note it is a sticky thread. It will always be easy to find at the top of the dev forum
No need to flash the whole rom or fuss with odin or heimdall cli/frontend.
Lets keep the thread friendly. Please search
I have this phone does not work the USB port serves only for charging but not for USB and have root but I want to put the CWM recovery but only schoolmaster to install with pc odin or adb but I need to do it without pc I know that rom manager not served if anyone knows how to do it without something like flasisifi pc or kernel flasher is agradeceria
jet_98 said:
I have this phone does not work the USB port serves only for charging but not for USB and have root but I want to put the CWM recovery but only schoolmaster to install with pc odin or adb but I need to do it without pc I know that rom manager not served if anyone knows how to do it without something like flasisifi pc or kernel flasher is agradeceria
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Since you are rooted already, yes it is possible. You can use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=neldar.sgs.kernel.flasher&hl=en and select the custom kernel you want (since I'm assuming you're still on stock, the blastoff kernel from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1828171 works well - use SGS kernel flasher the first time, then flash again from CWM to get wifi working). On this phone, the kernel and the recovery are always together in the same file so by flashing a custom kernel you will get CWM.
That being said, I would recommend AGAINST doing this because if it fails you have no way of fixing things as your USB port doesn't work. So, be very careful - check your md5sum, download it again, and check the md5sum of the new file. If they match, then you're probably good to go. This warning also goes for anything else you may want to flash from CWM should you decide to go ahead.
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Since you are rooted already, yes it is possible. You can use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=neldar.sgs.kernel.flasher&hl=en and select the custom kernel you want (since I'm assuming you're still on stock, the blastoff kernel from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1828171 works well - use SGS kernel flasher the first time, then flash again from CWM to get wifi working). On this phone, the kernel and the recovery are always together in the same file so by flashing a custom kernel you will get CWM.
That being said, I would recommend AGAINST doing this because if it fails you have no way of fixing things as your USB port doesn't work. So, be very careful - check your md5sum, download it again, and check the md5sum of the new file. If they match, then you're probably good to go. This warning also goes for anything else you may want to flash from CWM should you decide to go ahead.
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install the kernel reset and started then talk normal start and only lasted one minute and reboots and then does the same and when you step recovery all say wrong and even tinges the recovery of stock will not let me delete the data 'll have to reinstall the kernel or 'll have to do something else
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install the kernel reset and started then talk normal start and only lasted one minute and reboots and then does the same and when you step recovery all say wrong and even tinges the recovery of stock will not let me delete the data 'll have to reinstall the kernel or 'll have to do something else
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I'm not sure I understand what your current situation is. My interpretation is:
1) You went ahead and tried flashing a kernel
2) You can boot up normally but you reboot after about a minute.
3) You can't wipe anything in recovery
3) When you're getting error messages, please copy them out word for word what they are. There are many similar sounding error messages.
If I got any of the above wrong, let me know and we'll go from there. Also, when you're in recovery, does it say "3e" or CWM (ie is it the Stock recovery or not).
P.S. By posting in a variety of threads the same message, you will not get help faster and it will just make people want to help you less. If you keep everything in one thread then things stay organized and its easier for people to help you.
P.P.S. It sounds as if you're translating from a different language. If indeed you are, please paste the equivalent in your native language below (there's an off-chance I'll understand it).
xc-racer99 said:
I'm not sure I understand what your current situation is. My interpretation is:
1) You went ahead and tried flashing a kernel
2) You can boot up normally but you reboot after about a minute.
3) You can't wipe anything in recovery
3) When you're getting error messages, please copy them out word for word what they are. There are many similar sounding error messages.
If I got any of the above wrong, let me know and we'll go from there. Also, when you're in recovery, does it say "3e" or CWM (ie is it the Stock recovery or not).
P.S. By posting in a variety of threads the same message, you will not get help faster and it will just make people want to help you less. If you keep everything in one thread then things stay organized and its easier for people to help you.
P.P.S. It sounds as if you're translating from a different language. If indeed you are, please paste the equivalent in your native language below (there's an off-chance I'll understand it).
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If you are in the correct idea that's what happens to me
I think the reason you do not understand me because I am from Mexico and speak Spanish English is difficult to read but I can write it if you want to write in Spanish but I doubt you understand me more
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If you are in the correct idea that's what happens to mein the state you are in, can you get to
I think the reason you do not understand me because I am from Mexico and speak Spanish English is difficult to read but I can write it if you want to write in Spanish but I doubt you understand me more
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Ok, I might be able to understand some of the Spanish as I speak French as well, but lets keep going in English.
Anyways, when you go into recovery (I assume you can still get into recovery), does it say <3e> or CWM? If it says CWM, is it red or blue? If its <3e>, then you're still on stock recovery and the kernel didn't flash properly.
Also, can you please go to Settings, About Phone, and read off the Kernel Version? If you can't get there, what is the last screen you see before it reboots?

Most directions "how to root" seem to be from 2012...

On July 20th 2013, I bought a new Verizon Galaxy S3 i535 (no contract due to I need unlimited data). As a 50 year old guy, I admit that I never rooted before. I decided to do some research on the web which also included this XDA site. By the way, this is the best site!!
As someone who never rooted, I found multiple different ways of rooting which caused great confusion. Some told me to download Odin, while some did not. Some told me to download a superSU or something like that, while other directions did not, and so on and on......
But what really concerns me is that most of the directions were written back in 2012. Should this be a concern?
I don't want to seem like a retard or impose, but would someone do a video skype with me and walk me thru rooting my phone for the very first time? Perhaps during that skype session I could ask a few questions? I would pre download all files so that the session would not take too long.
Any volunteers?
Respectfully,
Bryan
All you need to Do is visit this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42791826
Those are the most straight forward directions you can find. And it will Root, unlock your bootloader, and install a custom recovery.
thank you for the reply. this is yet another way off rooting. why does this not use Odin? will this method allow me to undo or fix something if something goes bad?
BKSinAZ said:
thank you for the reply. this is yet another way off rooting. why does this not use Odin? will this method allow me to undo or fix something if something goes bad?
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It doesn't use Odin because it doesn't need to. The one click solution includes all the tools needed to make the necessary changes to your phone.
If something goes wrong, then you would use Odin to go back to stock no matter what root /unlock method you used. This is because Odin has the lowest level access to your phone, and can rescue it as long as you can boot into download mode.
As long as you don't flash files intended for other phones (including s3s from other carriers) your phone should be safe.
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It doesn't use Odin because it doesn't need to. The one click solution includes all the tools needed to make the necessary changes to your phone.
If something goes wrong, then you would use Odin to go back to stock no matter what root /unlock method you used. This is because Odin has the lowest level access to your phone, and can rescue it as long as you can boot into download mode.
As long as you don't flash files intended for other phones (including s3s from other carriers) your phone should be safe.
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Ok... here is one of my last questions before I begin the root process....
Do I need to make a backup of my stock phone? There are no pictures or music, but do I need to make a backup in anyway first so if things go bad I can return to stock?
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Ok... here is one of my last questions before I begin the root process....
Do I need to make a backup of my stock phone? There are no pictures or music, but do I need to make a backup in anyway first so if things go bad I can return to stock?
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I'm going to pop in here and help out. Once you do the casual root process, it will also install a recovery for you. You can make a nandroid backup with your recovery and just keep that somewhere safe. There are also directions on how to recover and return your phone to Verizon here. Hope that answers your question.
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Ok... here is one of my last questions before I begin the root process....
Do I need to make a backup of my stock phone? There are no pictures or music, but do I need to make a backup in anyway first so if things go bad I can return to stock?
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No, as I said above, as long as you can reach download mode on your phone you can always Odin back to stock. If you somehow break download mode, then your phone is pretty much bricked without sending it out to someone with a JTAG programmer. The risk of that happenning though is minimal unless you flash a ROM intended for a different device (such as the international i9300 S3).
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No, as I said above, as long as you can reach download mode on your phone you can always Odin back to stock. If you somehow break download mode, then your phone is pretty much bricked without sending it out to someone with a JTAG programmer. The risk of that happenning though is minimal unless you flash a ROM intended for a different device (such as the international i9300 S3).
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OK... did exactly what you and the directions stated. Upon the phone booting up, there is a 'padlock' and the option to swipe. When I swipe, I am not as the home screen that I am accustomed to. I am in the Team Win Recovery Project" with the only option to 'select zip to install" and 6 buttons to press (install, backup, mount, advanced, wipe, restore, settings, reboot)
This was an unexpected step and was wondering what to do next?.... or did I mess things up?
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OK... did exactly what you and the directions stated. Upon the phone booting up, there is a 'padlock' and the option to swipe. When I swipe, I am not as the home screen that I am accustomed to. I am in the Team Win Recovery Project" with the only option to 'select zip to install" and 6 buttons to press (install, backup, mount, advanced, wipe, restore, settings, reboot)
This was an unexpected step and was wondering what to do next?.... or did I mess things up?
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It sounds like you were successful in rooting and unlocking your phone's bootloader. The program you are seeing (TWRP recovery) allows you to flash roms/mods (install), backup your phone, wipe and restore your phone. However, this shouldn't be what you see on bootup unless you pressed volume up while booting. Your stock ROM may have been wiped during the root process.
I suggest you dive into the world of Custom ROMs with CleanROM which is basically a de-bloated and tweaked version of the stock ROM.
Download the file from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832070
Use your PC to put it on a microSD card. In TWRP recovery, perform a Factory Reset (from the Wipe Menu), then navigate to the external_sdcard and install CleanROM (from install menu). Wipe caches and reboot once installation is finished. You should boot straight into CleanROM.
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It sounds like you were successful in rooting and unlocking your phone's bootloader. The program you are seeing (TWRP recovery) allows you to flash roms/mods (install), backup your phone, wipe and restore your phone. However, this shouldn't be what you see on bootup unless you pressed volume up while booting. Your stock ROM may have been wiped during the root process.
I suggest you dive into the world of Custom ROMs with CleanROM which is basically a de-bloated and tweaked version of the stock ROM.
Download the file from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832070
Use your PC to put it on a microSD card. In TWRP recovery, perform a Factory Reset (from the Wipe Menu), then navigate to the external_sdcard and install CleanROM (from install menu). Wipe caches and reboot once installation is finished. You should boot straight into CleanROM.
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It seems that when I went into the backup area and made a backup (a backup of what, I do not know because I am totally new to this) and after the backup the phone rebooted to the normal home screen with all the normal icons. I even just received a phone call so I guess all is good.
I don't know what to do now that my phone is rooted. My goal was just to uninstall unwanted programs etc, So when I get the courage, I will use the CLEANROM.
Question.... do I now have to constantly update my existing root or Cleanrom once installed? Do I now avoid Verizon or Samsung updates?
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OK... did exactly what you and the directions stated. Upon the phone booting up, there is a 'padlock' and the option to swipe. When I swipe, I am not as the home screen that I am accustomed to. I am in the Team Win Recovery Project" with the only option to 'select zip to install" and 6 buttons to press (install, backup, mount, advanced, wipe, restore, settings, reboot)
This was an unexpected step and was wondering what to do next?.... or did I mess things up?
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If you're not ready to flash roms just touch reboot and you'll be back to your stock jellybean. In regards to the padlock, I also got that after using CASUAL and underneath the padlock it says custom. I haven't gotten a definitive answer about that but the general consensus is that it's nothing to worry about. I suppose it's just Verizon letting you know that they detected changes to your phone.
Do yourself a favor and read for days and days before you start flashing roms. You'll find the answers here and YouTube.
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It seems that when I went into the backup area and made a backup (a backup of what, I do not know because I am totally new to this) and after the backup the phone rebooted to the normal home screen with all the normal icons. I even just received a phone call so I guess all is good.
I don't know what to do now that my phone is rooted. My goal was just to uninstall unwanted programs etc, So when I get the courage, I will use the CLEANROM.
Question.... do I now have to constantly update my existing root or Cleanrom once installed? Do I now avoid Verizon or Samsung updates?
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Great. The backup you made is what is called a "nandroid" backup. By default it includes the Android System, your apps, and associated application data and settings. This is great because it basically includes everything you need to restore your phone to it's previous state. So if you were to flash a custom ROM and ended up not liking it you could always restore this backup and it would restore your phone to how it is now.
Being rooted allows you to install and use applications from the Play store that require root. There are tons of them. The one I use most often is called Titanium Backup. It's primary purpose it to backup and restore your data and applications on an individual basis. I use it mostly to save my text messages and game save data between ROM flashes. It also allows you to uninstall, wipe data, and freeze (disable) any application on your phone.
Right now since you are still running stock rooted, you want to avoid installing any official updates, otherwise you may have to re-root. Beanstown may have disabled system updates through the rooting method, but I am not sure. If a new update is released, keep your eyes on the forums here, someone will create a flashable zip of the new firmware that maintains root/unlocked bootloader, you can then flash that in TWRP. Also once you flash a custom ROM like CleanROM, they removed the Samsung Firmware updater most likely so you don't have to worry about it.

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