Will the nexus s ever receive an update from Google to allow it to capture 720p videos?
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Honestly HD video recording sucks on phones and the nexus s can't support it.
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who cares about HD, let's worry about the crappy frame rate it gets right now.. the videos look like jello and it's choppy. I recorded side by side with nexus one and N1 doesn't have the same problem.
I believe the consensus is that the limitation to 480p video recording is based on hardware not software and as such can never be lifted. I'm not really bothered though, my phone is a phone first, a browser second, a PMP third (thanks to the VooDoo sound mod and SuperCurio) and everything else last.
It's limited by software, not hardware. Else we'd have a class-action suit for false advertisement.
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cigar3tte said:
It's limited by software, not hardware. Else we'd have a class-action suit for false advertisement.
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Is that because the Galaxy S phones can do 720p? Our hardware isn't theirs. We have a lot of different parts.
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It's limited by software, not hardware. Else we'd have a class-action suit for false advertisement.
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Again - where has Google ever advertised that the Nexus S is 720p capable or that it will ever be provided? It's certainly not on the tech specs page: http://www.google.com/nexus/tech-specs.html#
or on Best Buy's page
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Google+...ile)/1484107.p?skuId=1484107&id=1218262482328
Feel free to file a class action suit, but I'm going to guess that it will get summarily dismissed.
Swetland has come forward and stated that the Nexus S lacks the extra hardware processing components due to lack of room on the PCB that was required for the SGS to do 720p.
Question from supercurio:
http://twitter.com/supercurio/status/15023985871814656
Is VIdeo Capture 480p choice due to WebM codec limitations on this SoC? software compressor Maybe?
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Response:
http://twitter.com/dnaltews/status/15037578596065280
clock rate limitation of the SoC. Galaxy uses an external image processing part as a work around. Not enough PCB space in N.S.
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I'm not entirely sure where everyone is getting the impression that 1.) the Nexus S does 720p OOTB or 2.) It will be provided in an update by Google. #1 is decidedly false and #2 is unlikely at best given the information we have.
You may eventually see an implementation (software solution) similar to that of the Nexus One (720p @ ~ 24fps IIRC), but don't expect it to be official.
Whether you want to believe it or not, that page used to say 720p. I remember linking the spec page chatting with my brother about 720p being listed but not usable.
Maybe three weeks ago.
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can you record 720p video using nexus S?
No, hardware not compatible sith 720p.
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Well that stinks. Oh well.
indeed. i thought it can be modified on the ROM
MoreYummy said:
indeed. i thought it can be modified on the ROM
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A ROM can't do hardware changes (inb4 Nexus One 720p). It's a hardware limitation.
Please use search, there are many threads about this discussion in the past.
Yea, the Nexus One 720p is just upscaled anyway.
I love my Nexus S phone but it's almost the only Android phone being sold today without HD video. The camera's resolution should support 720p video (as the Galaxy S), and the problem is the lack of support for HD video by the native Android operating system.
Now, that the Galaxy Nexus will support 1080p video recording with a native Android, do you think the Nexus S will get it too?
No. our hardware is limited.
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This is a question I am very interested in hearing the answer to as well. It would he nice to see HD video capabilities as well as the super fast shutter speed be provided by the OS to the Nexus S and not a hardware exclusive feature of the Galaxy Nexus.
It would also be nice if the update to ICS fixed the screen burn in on my phone caused by the notification bar.
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I think it's the same camera as the Galaxy S
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Nfinity said:
as well as the super fast shutter speed be provided by the OS to the Nexus S and not a hardware exclusive feature of the Galaxy Nexus.
It would also be nice if the update to ICS fixed the screen burn in on my phone caused by the notification bar.
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Have you tried fast burst camera in the market? Just until we get ICS. Works very well
Not even 720p?
i recall the nexus s not getting 720p recording due to codecs
Nexus s is not doing 720p video. It is not a limatation with the os.
Search the forum if you want a detailed reason why.
Yes. Do a search. It is a hardware limitation, not software.
Nexus s camera sensor is different than galaxy s sensor because they needed the extra space in the phone casing for the NFC hardware in our phone. The sensors are physically differant. The pics are around here some where if you search for it. It shows both camera sensors to compare.
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Haizum74 said:
Have you tried fast burst camera in the market? Just until we get ICS. Works very well
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Thanks for the suggestion. I'll check that app out.
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So that means the Nexus brand will always have a lesser camera
The Nexus One had a 5MP at launch with no HD video at launch.
The Nexus S still have a 5MP camera with no HD
No, the Galaxy Nexus still have a 5MP camera when everybody else use a 8MP camera.
I can't understand why google equip their flagship phones with relatively crappy cameras
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The Nexus One had a 5MP at launch with no HD video at launch.
The Nexus S still have a 5MP camera with no HD
No, the Galaxy Nexus still have a 5MP camera when everybody else use a 8MP camera.
I can't understand why google equip their flagship phones with relatively crappy cameras
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Ahh you are falling foul of the MP myth dude, MPs are a size issue so unless you are printing posters then its not the MPs but the sensor too. You could have a 12mp camera with a ****ty sensor and an 8 mp with a good one and it will take the better picture. It is also dependent on the cameraman too of course.
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It is also dependent on the cameraman too of course.
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Ah, this. You can give some people the best camera in the world and they still take the crappiest pictures....
If you use google plus follow Romain guy he uploaded a sample video filmed with the gn and it is outstandingly amazing, screw the megapixels this bad boy is fantastic!
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Someone can confirm that video mode have an image stabilisation option? Or this feature is only important for Apple?
romcika said:
Someone can confirm that video mode have an image stabilisation option? Or this feature is only important for Apple?
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The Galaxy Nexus has it, will the nexus have it nobody knows. It depends if it is hardware or software based.
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Thanx! I hope the Galaxy S2 will also get this feature with an Ice Cream Sandwich.
I think the GS2 already have this feature implemented
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Thanx! I hope the Galaxy S2 will also get this feature with an Ice Cream Sandwich.
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Look somewhere is the settings, I think it's there
Ah man, would have loved 720p recording
I'm considering buying a Xoom, and I've been trying to read up on it, and it seems as though video playback has been discussed to great extent. Most of what I've read is about HD files (.mkv).
How is the video playback of .avi files on the stock player?
If it sucks, would you recommend any other apps? Or would I need to re-encode them?
I will use this when travelling, so I can't use any streaming software from my regular pc.
I have no problem with rooting and installing custom ROMs if that would improve anything!
Thank you!
Is it so much of a diffference it's worth doing it? Is it unwatchable if you don't?
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lovfors said:
Is it so much of a diffference it's worth doing it? Is it unwatchable if you don't?
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In my opinion it is not worth doing. Just download Mobo Player from the market and you'll be fine. Not had 1 .avi that would not work with Mobo, nor noticed any difference in the quality.
No issues here either, there are a few things that I've reencoded due to size but not found any issues..
fyi I've been using freemaker video converter to reencode stuff if it needed doing.
On the xoom page on motos website it says that .ago is not nativly supported by the android OS, and that using decoders may reduce battery time if its not done on a hardware level. Any of you having trouble with battery life?
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Mobo does both hardware and software rendering and there are other players on the market that will use hardware rendering.
As for battery life, I cant honestly say that I have seen a decrease that would make a difference to my useage.
Thank you all!
Now I know what I'm gonna ask santa for this year
Wait for the prime my FRIEND!!! Tegra 3
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In another thread, we found out that you simply need to add the SamsungCamera2.apk from the i9500 to the system/app directory (needs root) of your i9505, and the option to record in 720p is there, and it seems to be working
I thought this might be useful to many people who probably won't notice the question in the Q&A sub forum.
Here is the link to the thread : Link
And here is the link to my post with the SamsungCamera2.apk I have on my i9500 : Link
EDIT: Thanks to NoOneCanHelpMe for uploading the apk to his dropbox account, here is the link : http://db.tt/bKsin5eS
Please press the "Thanks" button if this post helped you.
Cool thanks for sharing, its also quite funny though they downgraded the I9505 camera software on purpose
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jody2k said:
Cool thanks for sharing, its also quite funny though they downgraded the I9505 camera software on purpose
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Indeed, I wonder why they did that, especially since I think it's the only difference in the camera software on both variants.
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Indeed, I wonder why they did that, especially since I think it's the only difference in the camera software on both variants.
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I would say for marketing purposes but slowmotion aint that special so I also wonder, could be lazyness also from samsung by not optimizing their software
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I would say for marketing purposes but slowmotion aint that special so I also wonder, could be lazyness also from samsung by not optimizing their software
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Yeah, though they didn't even mention the difference, and they even tried to convince people that the i9505 was as good as the i9500 because of the limited availability of the Exynos CPU so they wouldn't feel they got an inferior version, so this goes the wrong way.
I've seen no reviews mentionning that either, only users on xda.
Also, lazyness seems weird too, because instead of using the same version of the camera software on both variants, they went out of their way to implement a difference, which means 2 versions of the software to maintain and update.
So I'm wondering if it was because of the performance? Is the FPS the same on the i9505 when using 720p? or does it become more choppy?
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Yeah, though they didn't even mention the difference, and they even tried to convince people that the i9505 was as good as the i9500 because of the limited availability of the Exynos CPU so they wouldn't feel they got an inferior version, so this goes the wrong way.
I've seen no reviews mentionning that either, only users on xda.
Also, lazyness seems weird too, because instead of using the same version of the camera software on both variants, they went out of their way to implement a difference, which means 2 versions of the software to maintain and update.
So I'm wondering if it was because of the performance? Is the FPS the same on the i9505 when using 720p? or does it become more choppy?
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It records at 15 fps... and choppy.
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It records at 15 fps... and choppy.
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Confirmed, it's not really worth it as the video is extremely choppy.
jakemog said:
It records at 15 fps... and choppy.
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Confirmed, it's not really worth it as the video is extremely choppy.
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Ok, that explains it then
So while this "mod" allows us to record slow motion in 720p... it does so at the expense of fps?
Doesn't really seem to be that useful then
Isn't it possible to force the camera to record at the same 120/60 fps ? :/
Mayb its due to limitations of emor-r sensor on i9505 over exmor-rs on i9500
Dont bash me..but this seems 2 b the reason for the lower camera quality on i9505..
Even there r some reviewers too who thinks the same...
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jakemog said:
Isn't it possible to force the camera to record at the same 120/60 fps ? :/
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I think is amazing...i have the 9505...check out my slow motion video at 720p!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dUng_cQRxU
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Mayb its due to limitations of emor-r sensor on i9505 over exmor-rs on i9500
Dont bash me..but this seems 2 b the reason for the lower camera quality on i9505..
Even there r some reviewers too who thinks the same...
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It is for sure not a sensor limitation. Don't forget that the sensor is able to take 1080p videos
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I think is amazing...i have the 9505...check out my slow motion video at 720p!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dUng_cQRxU
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It's choppy...
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foxy4270 said:
I think is amazing...i have the 9505...check out my slow motion video at 720p!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dUng_cQRxU
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Yeah.. sorry but thats just horrible, might as well record a normal video in full HD and reduce the framerate by 1/2..
Same result.
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I think is amazing...i have the 9505...check out my slow motion video at 720p!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dUng_cQRxU
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Indeed, this is a lot more choppy than on the i9500.. I guess that's why they downgraded the i9505's camera software..
So I am guess it's either the different sensor or slower cpu/gpu.
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and here is a flashable zip
- Reboot recovery,
- Install zip!
http://www.mediafire.com/?l0pt3dx3b6w06qc
This is crap. Now I want a I9500.
not a sensor limitation.
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not a sensor limitation.
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Yeah, my guess is Chip optimization. The i9500 camera software is not optimized for the i9505 chipset. I'm referring to the CPU chipset and not the sensor module.
Did anyone notice a choppy video playback using YouTube app on the N5?. I tried my Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 playing HD videos on youtube , it is choppy on my N5 where it is smooth on my N4.I did not try other video players.
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Did anyone notice a choppy video playback using YouTube app on the N5?. I tried my Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 playing HD videos on youtube , it is choppy on my N5 where it is smooth on my N4.I did not try other video players.
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Yeah, that's what I notice too. I mean, the video looks stunning, but it doesn't seem to be running smoothly at all.
I ran it side by side with my iPhone 4S, and my iPhone played the video much smoother overall. I thought I was just seeing thing until it reached one part in the video where the same kid in the video raising his hand to point at the sky. The arm movement right there was noticeably unnatural in the Nexus 5, compare to my iPhone 4S's playback.
Does anyone know an app that can show you what the currently playing video's fps is?
I have not experienced this... well I haven't notice it if it is choppy
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I have not experienced this... well I haven't notice it if it is choppy
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Do you have any other smartphones that is capable of playing youtube videos? Pull the same video up across both both phones and start the playback at the same time.
Better yet, compare it against your PC browser.
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I have not experienced this... well I haven't notice it if it is choppy
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Try watching this video and let me know how it runs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v2L2UGZJAM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Try watching this video and let me know how it runs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v2L2UGZJAM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Can confirm that that video is much choppier on the Nexus 5 compared to the Nexus 4. No idea why. Doesn't make any sense.
muyoso said:
Can confirm that that video is much choppier on the Nexus 5 compared to the Nexus 4. No idea why. Doesn't make any sense.
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I hope it's just some optimization problem that can be fixed with software update(s). I'd really hate to return this phone back, but it's quite a deal-breaker for someone like me who uses the phone as an on-the-go multimedia player.
Are there any alternative apps that can play HD youtube videos smoothly?
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I hope it's just some optimization problem that can be fixed with software update(s). I'd really hate to return this phone back, but it's quite a deal-breaker for someone like me who uses the phone as an on-the-go multimedia player.
Are there any alternative apps that can play HD youtube videos smoothly?
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Sometimes these issues are also caused by user settings like what and how many apps or widgets running in the background, Google syncronisation interval and what apps connect to the internet etc etc.
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Try watching this video and let me know how it runs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v2L2UGZJAM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I'll try it and test it on my S4 and N5 once I get near wifi.
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Try watching this video and let me know how it runs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v2L2UGZJAM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Just tested it on mine. It is slightly choppy, but not very noticeable.
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Vertron said:
Just tested it on mine. Very smooth, not choppy at all.
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Maybe my phone is defective then...? I already closed all apps running in the background and tested it again, still stuttering
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Maybe my phone is defective then...? I already closed all apps running in the background and tested it again, still stuttering
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I don't think its defective. I believe all the devices have the same issue. We just have to wait for a software fix.
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I don't think its defective. I believe all the devices have the same issue. We just have to wait for a software fix.
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Well, there are people like me and you who notice the "stuttering" (I wouldn't call it choppy, because still frames are just as clear as my 4S). Then, there are others that say it does not stutter even in the slightest.
I don't know what to believe in anymore.
Maybe the YouTube app isn`t fully optimsed for KitKat yet.
hmm I can only just notice it - though if I wasn't looking for it I doubt I'd notice it
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Probably a good test would be download the video using for example tubemate, then play the local copy this would help determine whether network latencies are contributing to any lags or if caused by decoding the video if it occurs when local copy.
Then try hw vs Sw decoding.
Will test when I ve got time.
My preferred video player is MX player that currently doesn't run on kit kat
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paul_59 said:
My preferred video player is MX player that currently doesn't run on kit kat
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I thought they updated it?
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yeah its very stuttery. Whats worse the youtube app doesn't seem to be able to get 1080p and 720 upscaled looks atrocious. Playing the same video on my 2 year old One XL and this phone, the Nexus is so much worse in terms of stutter, upscaling and color that I'm very disappointed at the moment.
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I thought they updated it?
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You're correct, I hadn't noticed
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Probably a good test would be download the video using for example tubemate, then play the local copy this would help determine whether network latencies are contributing to any lags or if caused by decoding the video if it occurs when local copy.
Then try hw vs Sw decoding.
Will test when I ve got time.
My preferred video player is MX player that currently doesn't run on kit kat
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Sure it does. I installed it yesterday and it runs beautifully!