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GPS/PCI Express Break-off from Hardware Breakdown Thread

I wanted to break this off since the other topic was looking to be mostly about the LCD's
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I wanted to see if the blank sockets on the system board were active. So I grabbed my multimeter and tested each pin to see if any delivered power. I don't know if these sockets are controlled by software, but it looks like these sockets are inactive.
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I'm an electronics tech (avionics really) just so you know my background, and I am by no way a programmer i just hack my way throught when i need... poorly at that. I'm a long time reader but don't post much.
I havent taken mine apart yet, I bought it for the wife to use as an ereader she was using her evo before and already has bad eyesight I just dont think reading on that small screen is good for her. However we planned on returning it today because she couldn't get anything to work... But i loaded VAGAn-Tab rom on it and she likes it ALOT more now, but we still might be returning it (she thinks it to big and heavy to hold). So all I have to work with is the internal pics posted by other members and I thank you for them!
I was thinking about using a mini pci card with 3g/4g and GPS to solve my problem like this one for Sprint Customers looks very nice and they claim android support. Could someone please verify the length available for the card from the socket to the mounting holes? It should be around 50mm but i cant tell from the pic.
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franklinwireless
M600_datasheet_v1.pdf
Then after more research I figured out that think I can get the GPS to work on the board. I found that the RXM-GPS-SG-T looks to be the exact chip they are using, the pin look to match exactly VCC, GND, RX, TX, RF, VOUT. So they are using an active GPS antenna (but could be modded for passive). They use NMEA-0183 or SiRF Binary output selected by a serial command. So we need to figure out if the TX is going to U39 making U39 the interface to the unit, or directly to somewhere else (idk need to see board) I hope i can attach my pic i made or maybe an admin can post it for me.
However the PCI slot might be just as hard to use, the pin 20 that has 3.3v isnt what we want, but it could be a software control to disable/enable the card. However we still need A+ on pins 2,52 (3.3V), 6,28,48(1.5V) and maybe 24(3.3V Aux) dependeding on the card. We could be dealing with a "Non Standard" connector, they are out there but most OEM's dont bother with them. More likely to find them on a Asus product ect. It's common for the SIM card to be powered by the PCI card itself and the board looks wired that way. I have 2 Digi International Mini PCI express Wifi/Cell Development boards and thats how they both power the SIM card. Pin 16 should goto Pin 1 on the sim card, 14->2, 12->3, 10->6 but maybe 7 or 8.
Getting the Power to it could be software or hardware. Looks like around U8 on the frontside could a Vreg setup, Or it could be as simple as putting in some 0 ohm resistors around R15 and R14. We also see that U7 is unpopulated on backside. So that leave us with U7,U8, R15, and R16 which could mean they are all part of the same circuit if they laid it out with any logic. TP1,2,and 3 also make me believe this is true, however they match up to LED_WPAN#, LED, WLAN#,and LED_WWAN#. I sure wish they match the power input pins, but that means all those missing resistors could just be for unpopulated status LED's. Like I've said over and over i cant tell ya unless i can probe around the board.
As far as the memory, yes its possible, I do BGA replacement at work. What I am afraid of is that the other memory chips look to be exactly on the other side and I'd be afraid of messing them up. I'd have to look at my jig at work and see if I could set it up without any problems.

I'm no electronics expert but I dabble. I'd be interested in internal GPS and a memory boost. I'm pretty confident in my soldering skills and would try something if directed by someone smarter than me.

This is something I am very interested in. Any new info on this?

ihaveathumb said:
This is something I am very interested in. Any new info on this?
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I sadly no longer own a G tablet, wife thought it was to heavy to read books, and hated the screen. I cant argue with her on either of those points, so we returned it. However I got the ok to buy a referb on if i can find one, but when I did at my local store i showed them the paper and they told me they dont sell that stuff there and send me away. I talked to 3 different people too basically all told me to go f off. I even tried another time with the 7" they sell same results. I dont know why it gets listed on the website if they wont sell it.
Not to get sidetracked, but i even did by the proper bga fittings to solder the ram chips too lol..
So no its probably not going to go any farther from my stand point, if anyone wants my help I still read the forums everyday.
I'm just gonna wait and see what comes out in the future that XDA gets behind, because I'de never buy anything that didnt have an active community here.

IF you were looking for a reader fo rher mainly, you should've really gone with the Nook Color... eInk devices are good too IF you don't really need good PDF support and/or need it to read more complexly formatted documents, e.g. technical manual, mathematics texts, etc. i.e. eInk is best suited for ficiton and other simply formatted documents, but it VERY readable except in poorly lit conditions where you'd need external lighting of some sort.

Very true I should have bought her a nook, but now she doesnt want it because its not powerful enough for her needs imo. She also wants to login to her school (blackboard) and be able to use overdrive. Plus she likes dungeon defenders and I dont think that can handle it. We are just gonna wait it out and see what comes along, mostly cause we have our first due next month, so trying to be frugal.

mystkrh said:
Very true I should have bought her a nook, but now she doesnt want it because its not powerful enough for her needs imo. She also wants to login to her school (blackboard) and be able to use overdrive. Plus she likes dungeon defenders and I dont think that can handle it. We are just gonna wait it out and see what comes along, mostly cause we have our first due next month, so trying to be frugal.
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Yep, you'll want a full blown tablet then and I suspect that the NC would be too much of a bother to get setup for her for what she wants it for...
All the 10" tablets are fairly heavy too, so you'll probably have to stick to looking for 7/8" tablets and I suspect Tegra 2 or multi-core cortex-a9 SoCs from other mfgs... not much in the way of 7" ATM other than the elocity a7 (was c. $300 around xmas), but it's not very hacker friendly and I don't know if they ever got the USB port to run in non-host mode... probably best to not even look at it...

The g Tablet would, as many have already said, be a great tablet if it had gps mainly and increased memory. Adding pci-e would be even better. I would be extremely happy with the addition of gps. I would be very tempted to allow somebody with expertise and high level of confidence of success to experiment on my tablet.

GPS+
Just bought my Gtab yesterday. As you know the stock Roman/UI sucks big time. I installed Clockwork followed by CyanogenMod 7 and what a difference. Anyway I looked on the web for a dock and it seems there is a Chinese version of the Gtab that has higher spec's including GPS. It would seem logical to assume the U.S. motherboard has the same circuits built in. Who knows what's possible....

It's too bad that more people don't feel like tearing up their electronics to start soldering things to them.

[Q] How to charge the transformer?

Hi, i just got my transformer and have no idea how to charge it up.
the charge came with a section for the usb to plug into, then a second section which has the plug on it. I cant get these bits to fit together at all, they keep falling apart, and when they do decide to stay i don't get any indication that my tablet is charging. I also plugged into the usb into my laptop and the charging indicator still didn't appear.
Any help is appreciated, thanks!

the 2 parts of the charger snap together, at first I thought I had mine together but got the same result you're experencing. You have to put the 2 parts together till you hear or feel the snap,I had to apply a fair amount of pressure to get the 2 pieces connected. It's not you, the charger pieces are just really a snug fit and need a bit more force than one would think to get them connected.Once you've got it connected you'll know as you'll feel the difference immediately. Hope that helps.

Thanks for the help, they snapped together after i put quite a lot of force into it, it seems to be charging now, thanks!

i had to initially push past the point i thought i'd break it in half to get the two pieces joined together.

I actually thought my charger was defective when I first tried to assemble it. It just wouldn't go in.
Finally after 2 weeks of trying here and there, it snapped in. Good thing (actually not a good thing) that Asus Support is so unreliable because they still haven't shipped a replacement adapter.
Guess I should cancel with the Asus RMA but I'm not even sure if they were ever going to send it...
Anyway, the adapter is really a bad piece of hardware: it felt like I was going to break the damn thing at times. (I guess it isn't as widespread or maybe some people were luckier than others because I haven't really seen a huge commotion about it)
For those that aren't sure why their tablet isn't charging then this is probably why.

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Anyway, the adapter is really a bad piece of hardware: it felt like I was going to break the damn thing at times. (I guess it isn't as widespread or maybe some people were luckier than others because I haven't really seen a huge commotion about it)
For those that aren't sure why their tablet isn't charging then this is probably why.
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So it's a bad piece of hardware because it doesn't break when strained and connects very securely? Wow your view sure is skewed. Yes it's hard to press it into the other piece, how is this a bad hardware problem?

i won't use such complicated transformer . too complex . quit to use

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So it's a bad piece of hardware because it doesn't break when strained and connects very securely? Wow your view sure is skewed. Yes it's hard to press it into the other piece, how is this a bad hardware problem?
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Because had I actually broke the damn thing, I would be liable for damages. It's still plastic so it is still breakable. Plus, the metal part is bendable given enough pressure.
Did you even think that maybe they should have made a one piece for the adapter to begin with? Or at least assembled it at the factory so that consumers don't need to deal with it at all?
Second, I shouldn't have to spend an exorbitant amount of time figuring out why this thing wouldn't connect. Where in the manual did Asus say you needed to apply a large amount of pressure? In what other electronic device/adapter do you have the same amount of difficulty assembling the device?
Remember, if you break this thing, then you have no way of replacing it without buying a new TF because Asus's support is that terrible. (I am not the only one who can testify to this)
Maybe it is a feature for YOU; but having adapter assembly difficulties is not something that I would consider as "good hardware". Excuse me if I don't want to ruin something I just spent $550 (tablet + dock) on -- especially since I have no other way of charging it besides the extremely slow USB option.

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Because had I actually broke the damn thing, I would be liable for damages. It's still plastic so it is still breakable. Plus, the metal part is bendable given enough pressure.
Did you even think that maybe they should have made a one piece for the adapter to begin with? Or at least assembled it at the factory so that consumers don't need to deal with it at all?
Second, I shouldn't have to spend an exorbitant amount of time figuring out why this thing wouldn't connect. Where in the manual did Asus say you needed to apply a large amount of pressure? In what other electronic device/adapter do you have the same amount of difficulty assembling the device?
Remember, if you break this thing, then you have no way of replacing it without buying a new TF because Asus's support is that terrible. (I am not the only one who can testify to this)
Maybe it is a feature for YOU; but having adapter assembly difficulties is not something that I would consider as "good hardware". Excuse me if I don't want to ruin something I just spent $550 (tablet + dock) on -- especially since I have no other way of charging it besides the extremely slow USB option.
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But you didn't break it. Because it's built well. It doesn't say large amount of pressure but it does say how to assemble it in the manual. Besides my HTC charger is made in the same fashion, a little easier to assemble but it's done to reduce production cost and make it easily adaptable (hence the 100~240v range) by more than just Asus.

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But you didn't break it. Because it's built well. It doesn't say large amount of pressure but it does say how to assemble it in the manual. Besides my HTC charger is made in the same fashion, a little easier to assemble but it's done to reduce production cost and make it easily adaptable (hence the 100~240v range) by more than just Asus.
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I may not have but what if someone broke the adapter because of the difficulty, then who is to blame? And when I said it was a "bad piece of hardware", I meant the design, which is an integral part of any hardware. (also, just because something doesn't break, doesn't mean it was built well. But, that is another issue entirely) I don't want to feel that I might break something that I invested a large sum of cash in. I am not the only one that felt that felt like they were going to break the adapter. Some people are even afraid to disassemble it because of the frustration they dealt with when putting it together in the first place.
And where in the manual does it say how to assemble the adapter? You mean that one picture -- with no words at all -- where they draw an arrow in between the two parts? Yeah, big help -- like if I couldn't tell in the first place. They don't even tell you that you need to push it in all the way. The first time I tried, I pushed it in half because it wouldn't go deeper. How was I supposed to know that you needed to apply much more pressure? Also, how do costumers know if their device is defective if there are no instructions and assembly is more difficult than should be?
Again, assemble it at the factory or make it a one piece. Do you have a source for production costs? I find it difficult to believe assembly costs would be that much higher if they had just put it together. This isn't like plugging in the USB cable where everything is a nice and easy fit; it was way too frustrating than it should have been. Asus probably saves money from having to deal with consumers complaining about the charger if it came ready to use.
To me, hardware depends on the experience and that includes assembly. I don't want to worry about whether or not I might break it. (it is just an adapter, it shouldn't be this troubling!) I have never had an HTC adapter so I can't speak for that but I have never had trouble with adapters before. All companies want to save money but I don't have difficulty with their adapters. It's ridiculous that I have to talk about the adapter since with every other device/company, it is a non-issue. Again, the worst part is that you have no backup option besides buying a new TF to get a replacement adapter in case anything goes wrong.

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I may not have but what if someone broke the adapter because of the difficulty, then who is to blame? And when I said it was a "bad piece of hardware", I meant the design, which is an integral part of any hardware. (also, just because something doesn't break, doesn't mean it was built well. But, that is another issue entirely) I don't want to feel that I might break something that I invested a large sum of cash in. I am not the only one that felt that felt like they were going to break the adapter. Some people are even afraid to disassemble it because of the frustration they dealt with when putting it together in the first place.
And where in the manual does it say how to assemble the adapter? You mean that one picture -- with no words at all -- where they draw an arrow in between the two parts? Yeah, big help -- like if I couldn't tell in the first place. They don't even tell you that you need to push it in all the way. The first time I tried, I pushed it in half because it wouldn't go deeper. How was I supposed to know that you needed to apply much more pressure? Also, how do costumers know if their device is defective if there are no instructions and assembly is more difficult than should be?
Again, assemble it at the factory or make it a one piece. Do you have a source for production costs? I find it difficult to believe assembly costs would be that much higher if they had just put it together. This isn't like plugging in the USB cable where everything is a nice and easy fit; it was way too frustrating than it should have been. Asus probably saves money from having to deal with consumers complaining about the charger if it came ready to use.
To me, hardware depends on the experience and that includes assembly. I don't want to worry about whether or not I might break it. (it is just an adapter, it shouldn't be this troubling!) I have never had an HTC adapter so I can't speak for that but I have never had trouble with adapters before. All companies want to save money but I don't have difficulty with their adapters. It's ridiculous that I have to talk about the adapter since with every other device/company, it is a non-issue. Again, the worst part is that you have no backup option besides buying a new TF to get a replacement adapter in case anything goes wrong.
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Or you could, you know, buy a new adapter.
Besides, I've not seen a single report of a broken power adapter because they tried to assemble it so your complaining about something that hasn't even happened and will unlikely happen since it's obviously made to take the strain if thousands of people were able to put it together without breaking it.
Personally I feel secure in the fact knowing that it's well built and wont come apart easily like other similar style chargers I have seen, but I guess pressing 2 parts together is a giant issue which is nearly impossible to do and oh god, you might even break your nail!
And yes paying a bunch of people to click 2 parts together is quite costly.

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Or you could, you know, buy a new adapter.
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Where do buy a new adapter for this? I've been waiting for one since I got mine a while ago. The cord is too short, the power adapter shakes around in the wall socket, and you can't buy an extra charger because no one makes them except for Asus at this point (and even Asus doesn't have them to buy separately at this point).

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Where do buy a new adapter for this? I've been waiting for one since I got mine a while ago. The cord is too short, the power adapter shakes around in the wall socket, and you can't buy an extra charger because no one makes them except for Asus at this point (and even Asus doesn't have them to buy separately at this point).
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there's a "coming soon" page for a wallcharger with a few online retailers.

seshmaru said:
Or you could, you know, buy a new adapter.
Besides, I've not seen a single report of a broken power adapter because they tried to assemble it so your complaining about something that hasn't even happened and will unlikely happen since it's obviously made to take the strain if thousands of people were able to put it together without breaking it.
Personally I feel secure in the fact knowing that it's well built and wont come apart easily like other similar style chargers I have seen, but I guess pressing 2 parts together is a giant issue which is nearly impossible to do and oh god, you might even break your nail!
And yes paying a bunch of people to click 2 parts together is quite costly.
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Buy a new adapter... Have you been reading any of my posts? Okay, sell me yours for market price. There aren't any for sale if you haven't noticed. And no, I don't count waiting a month for a pre-order as an option. If you're willing to deal with one month of charging it through USB alone then by all means, give me yours.
Frankly, if I broke a nail then yes, it is badly designed. Not sure why you think that adds to your point.
"And yes paying a bunch of people to click 2 parts together is quite costly."
And you know this for a fact because...? I asked for sources and you give me, "trust me, I know." Do you even realize how much they pay their factory workers in China? (Apple factory workers get around $1 an hour when factoring in overtime) Do the math: if that one guy can put together 50 an hour, then that's 2 cents in extra costs per tablet order. (they are actually much more efficient) The most expensive part is getting the materials -- NOT the labor. Compare that to saving money on customer service for complaints on the charger.
I honestly don't care if you have a different opinion. But, keep your snide remarks to yourself. If you don't wish to participate in a friendly debate and continue to flame then fine, you win. It's really not worth my time. Try to realize that some people might have different opinions from yours.
Clearly, almost everyone had difficulty putting the damn pieces together. Do you honestly think people share your views on that being a good thing?! I really don't know what chargers you've used but I've never had trouble with others. I have never broken an adapter before so that means, they must be well built, right?
Even you admitted that it was more difficult to assemble than other chargers. How is that a good feature when most other chargers don't require assembly at all? Again, it cost almost nothing to have it assembled in the factory to begin with AND all the tablets I've seen didn't have this adapter "feature"-- so, what is your argument again? (I guess Asus, the multi-billion dollar company, can't afford it) Hell, why did they even assemble the tablet? Save costs! Send me just the case and the insides next time too.

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Where do buy a new adapter for this? I've been waiting for one since I got mine a while ago. The cord is too short, the power adapter shakes around in the wall socket, and you can't buy an extra charger because no one makes them except for Asus at this point (and even Asus doesn't have them to buy separately at this point).
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Exactly my point.
I really don't see how pre-ordering one with no timetable for release is an option.
And you're exactly right: the cord is much too short. I guess that's okay since it saves production costs

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Buy a new adapter... Have you been reading any of my posts? Okay, sell me yours for market price. There aren't any for sale if you haven't noticed. And no, I don't count waiting a month for a pre-order as an option. If you're willing to deal with one month of charging it through USB alone then by all means, give me yours.
Frankly, if I broke a nail then yes, it is badly designed. Not sure why you think that adds to your point.
"And yes paying a bunch of people to click 2 parts together is quite costly."
And you know this for a fact because...? I asked for sources and you give me, "trust me, I know." Do you even realize how much they pay their factory workers in China? (Apple factory workers get around $1 an hour when factoring in overtime) Do the math: if that one guy can put together 50 an hour, then that's 2 cents in extra costs per tablet order. (they are actually much more efficient) The most expensive part is getting the materials -- NOT the labor. Compare that to saving money on customer service for complaints on the charger.
I honestly don't care if you have a different opinion. But, keep your snide remarks to yourself. If you don't wish to participate in a friendly debate and continue to flame then fine, you win. It's really not worth my time. Try to realize that some people might have different opinions from yours.
Clearly, almost everyone had difficulty putting the damn pieces together. Do you honestly think people share your views on that being a good thing?! I really don't know what chargers you've used but I've never had trouble with others. I have never broken an adapter before so that means, they must be well built, right?
Even you admitted that it was more difficult to assemble than other chargers. How is that a good feature when most other chargers don't require assembly at all? Again, it cost almost nothing to have it assembled in the factory to begin with AND all the tablets I've seen didn't have this adapter "feature"-- so, what is your argument again? (I guess Asus, the multi-billion dollar company, can't afford it) Hell, why did they even assemble the tablet? Save costs! Send me just the case and the insides next time too.
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I never said it was good that it's harder to put together, I just said I like it. My only original point, which still stands is that it's a solid built charger which is only proven more by the fact that even though we have to press quite hard to put it together there isn't a single report of a broken charger. You can say all kinds of other non-related nonsense but the fact remains; it's well built, even if it's hard to put together.

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I never said it was good that it's harder to put together, I just said I like it. My only original point, which still stands is that it's a solid built charger which is only proven more by the fact that even though we have to press quite hard to put it together there isn't a single report of a broken charger. You can say all kinds of other non-related nonsense but the fact remains; it's well built, even if it's hard to put together.
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I've never seen a adapter from a big company that wasn't "well built". And my argument still stands that they could have made it less frustrating especially given the fact these adapters are hard to come by. (I guess this is the nonsense part: me expecting a more fluid experience)
Anyway, I'm done arguing about a stupid charger.
My original intent was to help others who didn't know why their chargers weren't working. This was the case until you came out of nowhere and called my views "skewed" about a single comment I made on the quality/design of the hardware. (like if this thing was God's gift to the world and the other manufacturers were making crappy chargers; like if that was the whole premise of my post) Do you think it really matters if this charger should be classified as good or bad hardware?! (well, to me it doesn't) If you want, I will go back and edit my original post because that wasn't part of my original intent anyway.
Again if TL;DR:
a) If the device doesn't have the thunderbolt sign, then it isn't charging.
b) The adapter needs to be pieced together fully. (even if it feels like it won't go in)
c) Force is needed until you hear a click sound.
If you don't mind, I would like to continue helping those who need troubleshooting on their devices.

This adapter is a piece of crap. My adapter melted the first time I plugged it in. Well built. haha... I went to best buy and picked up a Dynex Ultimate charger for 30 bucks. It has a 10 foot cord and works great it charges at 11 volts/1.5 amps.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Dynex&#...d=9462949&st=dynex ultimate charger&cp=1&lp=1

ohh, here is a pic of my melted adapter

Soooo, does anybody know why in god's name the adapter was shipped in two pieces? lol

solder replacement Atheros wireless chip in.

I'm a sysadmin for a computer repair shop, and I often have to do specialty solder jobs because I have extremely steady fingers. I was reading the old "AIRCRACK-NG SUITE WILL NOT WORK BECAUSE OUR PHONES GOT NEUTERED" threads, and was wondering if I would be the first person to do this. If it has been done, did it work?

I dunno about that noise but if you can solder a flash onto the camera I'll pay ya good money (or give you some free color graphics work since that's what I do)

xmeatizmurderx said:
I dunno about that noise but if you can solder a flash onto the camera I'll pay ya good money (or give you some free color graphics work since that's what I do)
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Thats a wholen'other can of worms my friend.
There is only one possible scenario where this to work. Your camera in the phone is just an immasculated blackberry camera which has the APIs for the flash. In which case I would only need to solder, and cut the phone, install different camera software and BANG it works.
I doubt we have been so fortunate. I haven't seen my phone naked yet. If anybody can confirm unused solder points on the camera this may work.

Here are their filings with the FCC if that helps
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...lledFromFrame=N&application_id=446565&fcc_id=

[LIST] Desk, Car, And Other Docks & Stands

Mounts - Docks - Stands - And Other Gadgets
I thought since so many of us have found pretty creative ways of using our tablets, it may be nice to discuss and compile a list of mounts out there that work and don't work. I myself get a bit too obsessed with mounting my gadgets. I really have no reason to need my tablet while driving, but that doesn't mean I don't want it there. I do however need it at work to be open and ready. Alot of available contraptions are a "One Size Fits Many" so you may know of something that works for someone’s iPad or Galaxy Tab that may work here. You don't have to have owned it, if you found something post it up, someone else may buy it and give it a whirl or have had it in the past.
Car Mounts
• Cup Holder Tablet + Phone Mount $50
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This one has decent reviews. The only complaint I see is that it doesn't hold the tablet perfectly still, but keep in mind your mounting a 10" tablet in a car, and in this case via the cup holder. It's not a RAM mount, but it's also a fraction of the price and doesn't require extensive installation. This one is a likely candidate to be ordered and tested out. I like that it gives a spot to place your phone or other stuff such as change or chargers. Speaking of which, it looks like you would have no issue plugging the charging cable in if you were using an inverter or found a car charger that worked.
• Arkon Seat / Floor Mount for Most Tablets $40
This one seems very low profile, very non-intrusive. It includes an 18" flexible arm and a mount that claims to hold 7"-12" tablets. It is important to note that Amazon has something like this listed (see below) that turned out to be total garbage. Hoping this isn't just a rebranded product since it is twice the price.
*Update* Found it on Amazon and it has 4/5 stars with 27 reviews. Pretty good. Havnt read through reviews yet though. Oh and it's cheaper!
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• Arkon Windshield Mount $26.30 These mounts on extension arms tend to experience alot of bounce while driving, however I have experienced great results by using one of the dashboard beanbag GPS/Phone holders to rest the tablet on which results in a wonderfully stable position.
•RAM Mount Large Tablet Mount If you have your wallet ready and you just want a solid dependable mount without trying a bunch of different products, then RAM Mount is for you. Their X Grip is getting pretty good reviews for holding all sorts of devices and they offer numerous mounting solutions. Expect to pay $100+ for the full setup.
• Pro-Clip $50 + Vehicle Mount
I'm a big fan of ProClip mounts, howver I think they are over priced on some models. I have written How To articles on making your own ProClip type mounts elsewhere on XDA if anyone is interested. But they are very solid mounts and well worth it if you can justify the cash. You buy two halves. One for your phone, one for your vehicle. The positive side is if you get a new phone, youy buy just half the mount costing you roughly $30-$50 or if you get a new vehicle or want to mount it in a new location you buy that piece. I have found that it's quite easy to retrofit the phone half to a generic or home made car half. They offer a variety of mounting options. The only one they have is for the TF100 but it may work as there seems to be a little bit of a gap in the back.
• Goosneck Seat bolt mount on Amazon $20-$25 This one I originally bought and it was garbage. It wobbled very badly and not at the bolt point, but th play in the mount. Add to that the actual tablet mount was too small and would fit my Nook Color at best, and my TF700 wasnt even close to fitting. Stay Away!
Desk Stands
•Cyber Acoustics Universal Tablet Stand (IS-4000) $28.39 I like how this one lifts the tablet up a little leaving room to place your phone or other items below it while providing a nice large strurdy base.
• Rocketfish Tablet Stand $10 At only ten bucks, this is a steal. Rocketfish has a reputation of being pretty damn good at an affordable price. Not the best, but not expensive either. It has a hole in the base to allow charging cable.
•CaseCrown Wood Stand (Redwood) Simple but different tablet stand. Will not allow for horizontal charging (unless upside down, but it does stand out of the crowd by being a nice looking wood design with groves to adjust the angle. And hell it's only $10, that's cheap for anything other then plastic.
• Arkon Portable Fold-Up Stand $10 This stand comes recommended by fellow users who say its a great little fold up stand and it can be had on eBay for about half the Amazon price.
Desktop Docks
Note: As it stands right now, the TF-201 and TF700 Keyboard docks from Asus seem to be identical despite claims of incompatibility. A big thanks to CraftyHack for being suspicious enough to start tearing his toys apart.
• TF201 Keyboard Dock Amethyst Gray $125 These are all over the board in price right now. The plunged originally when Asus claimed they were incompatable, then shot back up when it was discovered to be the same damn thing with a different sticker. These KeyBoard docks are great value to those wanting more then a tablet but don't want a netbook. They pack an extra internal battery boosting runtime up substantially and offer SD card port and a few other features. Many report that they tend to be a little unstable when placed on your lap or other non flat hard surface.
•TF700 Keyboard Dock in Champagne $150 Reported to be the same as the TF201 dock, but matches the newly released Chambagne Infinity.
Other Contraptions
Empire Adjustable Flexible Arm Mount $40 This is something like I was looking for in order to "float" a tablet above my monitors at work. There are several of these of different designs on amazon. Will link a few and will try one out.
• Dockem: Wallmount for any device $15 This is a really cool idea, just two adhesive back brackets that you place on the wall to hold your device. Limited applications, but I think using to hold your tablet on the side of the bed side table to keep it safe and out of the way would be nice. Not for me, but could be useful for someone.
Hope This Helps

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Very helpul posted!

Haven't thought of it till I noticed this thread...
A mount for my truck would be nice.
Anyone know of a wifi camera that might connect to a tablet for rear view video?
Excellent post!

Thats OK said:
Haven't thought of it till I noticed this thread...
A mount for my truck would be nice.
Anyone know of a wifi camera that might connect to a tablet for rear view video?
Excellent post!
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LOL, now that's thinking outside the box. You could always do a netbook under the seat. Hell why stop there, set up your own in-car wireless network, either by way of tether or broadcast hotspot. If you tether to PC you could use IP cameras! Yea I know overcomplicated but that's kinda why we're all here right?
But back to reality, a mount in your vehicle could be useful. One of my main reasons for exploring this option is because I no longer own a dedicated GPS. I use my phone for all my nav needs and on occasion you lose data signal at the worse possible time. With NavFree you have offline maps that will get you headed to where you need to be. Plus there's the option of catching up on news, listening to music and things like that especially if you find yourself sitting and waiting alot.

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LOL, now that's thinking outside the box. You could always do a netbook under the seat. Hell why stop there, set up your own in-car wireless network, either by way of tether or broadcast hotspot. If you tether to PC you could use IP cameras! Yea I know overcomplicated but that's kinda why we're all here right?
But back to reality, a mount in your vehicle could be useful. One of my main reasons for exploring this option is because I no longer own a dedicated GPS. I use my phone for all my nav needs and on occasion you lose data signal at the worse possible time. With NavFree you have offline maps that will get you headed to where you need to be. Plus there's the option of catching up on news, listening to music and things like that especially if you find yourself sitting and waiting a lot.
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Heehee...
NavFree 'eh?
That's one we could use.
Wish RAM or Proclip made a fitted tablet mount for the vehicles.
I had one in the towtruck I was driving for the GPS and hand radios.
It snapped in right across where the radio was and I could tilt it toward me.
Popped it right outta there when I quit driving for AAA.
Looks like RAM makes a mount for tabs and laptops...not cheap however and the no-drill set-up takes a little vehicle dis-assembly.
I have the RAM iPhone mount for the truck, but the iPhone is a pain in rear to use or see while driving.
So I don't use it.

Thats OK said:
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NavFree 'eh?
That's one we could use.
Wish RAM or Proclip made a fitted tablet mount for the vehicles.
I had one in the towtruck I was driving for the GPS and hand radios.
It snapped in right across where the radio was and I could tilt it toward me.
Popped it right outta there when I quit driving for AAA.
Looks like RAM makes a mount for tabs and laptops...not cheap however and the no-drill set-up takes a little vehicle dis-assembly.
I have the RAM iPhone mount for the truck, but the iPhone is a pain in rear to use or see while driving.
So I don't use it.
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If you own a heat gun and some very basic tools then just make your own. It's not as pretty, but it's damn near as functional as a ProClip. I did a write up How To on the note forum. I didn't update it with the final product because there was very little interest in making your own 100 car mount for $10. I still use it everyday and have yet to have any problems, even made a few for friends since then.

Ah-ha a DIYguy!
Them heater guns are very handy...
Yer right maybe I could whip sumpthin up!
Not like I'm real busy these days.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569099
Its nice cause if you mess up the holster you reheat and try again. Kydex is cheap and very forgiving, just dont cut it too small.

don't forget the Asus Audio and Connect Docks, which are still just vaporware mostly, but presumably en route.
http://www.slashgear.com/asus-audio-dock-hands-on-with-transformer-prime-06232637/
doody.

I thought this adjustable angle stand was a great deal for $4. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-new-P...1309123349443426966&pid=100011&prg=1005&rk=4&

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569099
Its nice cause if you mess up the holster you reheat and try again. Kydex is cheap and very forgiving, just don't cut it too small.
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Groovy and excellent how to!
If the Kydex material is springy yet stiff enough I'm thinking it may just work to span the radio\stereo panel.
I can just plug the tabs headphone into the stereo's interface port for tunes.
The rest is just handled from the touch screen hmmmmmm...

Thats OK said:
Groovy and excellent how to!
If the Kydex material is springy yet stiff enough I'm thinking it may just work to span the radio\stereo panel.
I can just plug the tabs headphone into the stereo's interface port for tunes.
The rest is just handled from the touch screen hmmmmmm...
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Yea thats sort of what I did. I listen to slacker radio every morning on my drive to work. I can review email and FB when I'm sitting at lights. It's great. Plan to do the same for my tablet. Keep in mind you have to get the right thickness of Kydex, which is available on ebay, its discussed in the thread. Kydex is what many "plastic" holsters are made of, its very resiliant stuff and tough as nails.

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don't forget the Asus Audio and Connect Docks, which are still just vaporware mostly, but presumably en route.
http://www.slashgear.com/asus-audio-dock-hands-on-with-transformer-prime-06232637/
doody.
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I'll add them once they officially announce them and put a MSRP on it. I love the looks of them and will probably buy one, but they are dragging their feet. These were released for "hands on" then they went silent. I really would like one, but c'mon asus.

Syn010 said:
I thought this adjustable angle stand was a great deal for $4. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-new-P...1309123349443426966&pid=100011&prg=1005&rk=4&
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Thats for an auction.

Chief Geek said:
Thats for an auction.
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With very little monitoring of ebay sales for the item you can get one for $4 free shipping easily at auction.
Or you can buy it outright for $7 with free shipping eg:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Portable-Fo...?pt=US_Tablet_Accessories&hash=item3a76c9715f
I've seen it on amazon too for a few dollars more.
Either way its a great stand because you can adjust its angles, and it folds up nicely.

Syn010 said:
I thought this adjustable angle stand was a great deal for $4. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-new-P...1309123349443426966&pid=100011&prg=1005&rk=4&
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This is a great stand, I got it on Amazon for $9.35 with free prime shipping. I never use it though because my tablets are usually in a case... great stand though. Lots of angle options and its built like a tank.

Syn010 said:
With very little monitoring of ebay sales for the item you can get one for $4 free shipping easily at auction.
Or you can buy it outright for $7 with free shipping eg:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Portable-Fo...?pt=US_Tablet_Accessories&hash=item3a76c9715f
I've seen it on amazon too for a few dollars more.
Either way its a great stand because you can adjust its angles, and it folds up nicely.
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This is a great stand, I got it on Amazon for $9.35 with free prime shipping. I never use it though because my tablets are usually in a case... great stand though. Lots of angle options and its built like a tank.
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I usually try to link Amazon as they tend to stay up for awhile where as, with some exceptions, most ebay items are gone in 7-10 days. I'll post the amazon link to it. Thanks for the suggestions guys.

Here's a great car mount by Akron, available on Amazon for $26.33. Bolts right to the seat bolt on the floor. REALLY easy to install. This is the 2nd mount shown in the OP.
To use it like I have it pictured below with the tablet in a case you have to open the clamps really wide and the springs sometimes get pulled of their anchors inside the mount. Simple fix is to take it apart (simple screws) and epoxy the ends of the springs to their plastic mounts. I also stretched out the springs a bit as to not be so tense. The whole fix took 5 minutes.
Other than the initial spring issue it's a very sturdy mount and unlike window mounts, it's not going anywhere. When I used it with my tablet without a case on the springs weren't an issue. The goose-neck does sway a bit while driving and isn't perfectly rigid. This is good because when you hit a big bump or for whatever reason the car is jostled it allows a bit of movement, much easier on the attachment point and tablet.

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UPDATE: Just noticed you updated the OP with this mount.
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Been there the whole time, but glad to find someone who has had this one as I'm still flip flopping between what to get. I plan to gt the gum drop case when its released, do you think this mount will be big enough for something like that?

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Been there the whole time,
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Der... lol, my bad.
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but glad to find someone who has had this one as I'm still flip flopping between what to get. I plan to gt the gum drop case when its released, do you think this mount will be big enough for something like that?
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It should fit, but you'll have to fix the springs (or maybe that was just a fluke issue with my mount). It fit's my Xoom with it's Otterbox defender case on if that helps give you reference.

[Review] Zerolemon Battery Case v2.0

Introduction
With every Android device, accessory availability is one of my biggest concerns. Having been with the Nexus and HTC lines for a long time, this was an intimate, but expected pain. That’s why when I saw Zerolemon put out an extended battery case for the 6P, I was both excited and amused. The thought of adding 8,000+mah of battery to a 5.7” device with such a large footprint due to the front facing speakers was going to be a disaster. But Zerolemon did it, and in what I believe is the most elegant way possible. Sturdy tpu, and clever cutouts for the camera, fingerprint sensor, and ports. Enough intro, let's dive into what’s happening with Version 2.0 of Zerolemon’s Nexus 6P battery case.
This review is going to be mostly a response to the famous AndroidPolice article that infamously bashed this case, and rightly so! You can view that here.
While I didn’t get to test the first version, there’s a reason (or many) they pulled it, and while correcting the fatal camera issue, they fixed a few more. It’s baffling that they released the original case so late in the 6P’s lifetime, and Version 2 just leaves me scratching my head (but admittedly grateful).
Quick Gallery Here
The good stuff:
Capacity: With 8,500mAh of juice, this case will keep your Nexus 6P ticking for almost 2.5 times as long. I don’t know why people say almost three, but let's break it down. 8500/3450= 2.463768. We’ll round that to 2.46, and then generously bump that up to 2.5. What’s the big deal? Like 7100mah, which is larger than the battery in an iPhone 6s. Yikes. Regardless, this case is going to be great for travelling, being out and about all day and night, and or a camping trip.
Protection: The multi-layer design offers ample plastic/TPU(in fairly large quantities) to protect your device. There is a front lip (insert picture), that should have the surface area and depth to save your phone from drops.
LED charge indicators: Four LEDs on the back of the case show the current battery level. A pretty standard feature, but useful nonetheless.
The Not So Good Stuff:
Weight: A naked 6P, without a screen protector or case, weighs 179 grams. The combined weight of the ZeroLemon case and the phone itself pushes that up to about 430 grams, which is more than twice as heavy! When a phone weighs nearly a pound, it makes it cumbersome and tiring to hold or use for long periods of time, and that’s definitely at play here.
Bulk: I’m going to heavily borrow some stats here, but here we go. Putting this case on your phone makes it ridiculously large. So large you’ll not want to carry it around, and it will definitely draw looks. It adds 23mm to the length of the phone, 10mm to its width and 14mm the thickness. It triples the thickness of the phone, destroying every design and engineering feat of the phone.
You’ll be using this thing with two hands at all times, and probably be wishing you had a third to help balance this thing.
Here’s where things really start to differ though. Remember those improvements I was talking about at the beginning of this article?
Charging speed: ~~Neither the input or output of the battery pack supports any sort of quick charging. Charging the case, and charging the phone with the case, is slow. It takes several hours to charge the case from empty, so you better not forget to plug it in overnight, because you aren't going to add much juice to it during your 30 minute commute to work.~~ Both the input and output of the device support quick charging over USB C! Admittedly charging both the case and phone from empty will take 7-8 hours, but you can definitely plug it in and top up in thirty minutes.
Camera issues: We've already established that the rear of the ZeroLemon case is thick.~~ In order to accommodate the camera, a deep canal cuts through the back of the case, exposing the lens, LED flash and other sensors. However, the canal is not quite wide enough, leading to an unintentional vignette on the left side of all pictures and video. The shiny plastic on the sides of the cutaway also reflects light, which adds further artifacts to images. As a photography enthusiast, this drives me absolutely insane. How did no one notice this when the product was tested!?!~~ This was the reason the case was discontinued for a bit, and I’m happy to report there are no camera issues here! Snap away on that weekend camping trip
Unfortunately the fingerprint reader problems are still very much an issue. Unless you initially trained your phone to recognize your finger tip, you will have to go into your settings and re add your fingers, or repeatedly press them to the sensor in hopes it trains them on that part of your finger (unsuccessful for me).
NFC is no longer blocked! I can confirm it does in fact work now. Android Pay your way to the future!
Assembly: It is a tad confusing, but basically you slide your phone down onto the brick part, place the plastic ring on top of your device and the battery pack, and then slip that into the TPU part. Not super easy, but you should get the hang of it without too much trouble.
Build Quality: The plastic ring looks and feels cheap; I’d definitely handle it with care. The TPU part does very much have those injection molding nibs, but their placement makes them unnoticeable unless you're searching for them. The TPU feels sturdy, and I haven’t noticed any flexing or creaking. The cutout around the headphone jack can hinder the use of certain cables though, due to its shape.
Conclusion:
One day I was going about my business. Using my phone from 7am 6pm. Then I spontaneously agreed to go to a concert. I was tired, but I made it through! My Nexus 6P did not. That night I started looking for a battery case for my 6P, and saw the Android Police review of it. I was willing to even accept the camera issues! I followed the Amazon link, and saw it was discontinued. I then found out why, and heard they would be releasing a newer, tweaked version. So I held out.
My patience rewarded me with a gigantic, but significantly less flawed case than I had anticipated. I can slap this case on and not have to be near a charger for 3-4 days, but make no mistake- I swap to my TechArmor bumper otherwise.
No more NFC blockage, camera artifacts, and the addition of quick charging make this case a buy for anyone who might find themselves in a situation where they’re using their phone excessively, or in a remote area (me). Or people who dislike external battery packs (also me). The only showstopper: the $60 price tag. You be the judge, but I don’t think it’ll disappoint!
Thank you to Lemonzero for providing me with a review unit, and readers can use the coupon code RGSQJDX8 to get a USB C charging station with four UBS ports for just $19.99!

Please feel free to ask questions if you have any!

Does this have a built in screen protector?

Pandawg said:
Does this have a built in screen protector?
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No

MyNarwhalBacon said:
No
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Thanks. I hated the screen protector that came with my Note 3 Zerolemon case.

Got mine two days ago. It is very big, but that is expected. I was wondering if you could use the USB C port for data on the case. I wanted to buy a USB C flash drive and load it with songs, movies, and TV shows for an upcoming airplane trip, and was wondering if it was possible to use the USB C port on the device for the flash drive, and still have it charge the device too. I would test it myself, but I don't have a USB C flash drive, and don't want to buy one unless this works.

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Got mine two days ago. It is very big, but that is expected. I was wondering if you could use the USB C port for data on the case. I wanted to buy a USB C flash drive and load it with songs, movies, and TV shows for an upcoming airplane trip, and was wondering if it was possible to use the USB C port on the device for the flash drive, and still have it charge the device too. I would test it myself, but I don't have a USB C flash drive, and don't want to buy one unless this works.
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Using the USB to USB C adapter that came with my note 7, and using a sandisk flash drive with it, it does NOT work. I put the drive in the adapter and adapter directly to the 6p, it recognized, formated it, and transferred a file to the drive. Then I put the case on, then, inserted the drive, and nothing. Turned the case on to charge, reinsert the drive, nothing. So in my testing, no, it doesn't work. I have no reason to believe a specific usb C flash drive would be any different

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Using the USB to USB C adapter that came with my note 7, and using a sandisk flash drive with it, it does NOT work. I put the drive in the adapter and adapter directly to the 6p, it recognized, formated it, and transferred a file to the drive. Then I put the case on, then, inserted the drive, and nothing. Turned the case on to charge, reinsert the drive, nothing. So in my testing, no, it doesn't work. I have no reason to believe a specific usb C flash drive would be any different
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Chances are the connector only has the power pins connected, with no data pins actually connected.

asylumxl said:
Chances are the connector only has the power pins connected, with no data pins actually connected.
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I can confirm as much with different drives and also using different usb settings in dev. options no luck with data transfer.

1 Now my case unicorn beetle , love big phones
2 I use my phone with two hands, no problem
Want use this case as daily case. Possible ? Worth ?

Any one in Canada or Toronto selling their zerolemon battery please let me know. Thanks

Me too, but im from europe (Lithuania) want buy it, pm me.

doombox414 said:
Any one in Canada or Toronto selling their zerolemon battery please let me know. Thanks
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you can order right from there web site