I ordered my phone with Best Buy with a Tmobile 2 yr contract(in Texas). It seems like nether company knows what the other company is doing. Best Buy told me I have 30 days to return the phone. Tmobile told me that I have 20 days before I get locked into my contract. I asked Tmobile since I don't have my phone yet has the 20 day period started, and they said yes! Ugh!!
The day you ordered the phone was the first day the contract started, even though you don't have the phone. Best buy is correct and does have a 30 day return period on the PHONE, not the contract. T-Mobile's trial period if you order a phone online is 20 days. So if you are not satisfied with the phone/service, then I would recommend that you return the phone within those 20 days so that you can cancel the service
Ok, thanks for confirming. Wasn't sure if it was supposed to be like that.
I bought the nexus s the day it came out on 2yr contract at best buy mobile in Dallas. I had 14 days to decide if I wanted to return it or not for a refund on both the phone and the contract.
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I'd call call Tmo CS, (talked to 3 different CS reps), and they all told me that Tmo will honor BB's return policy, since you cannot buy the phone from Tmo.
Also, I had them make a note in my account, so that if I would have needed to return the phone on day 29 (for example), that my contract would also be voided.
I didn't end up needing this, as I liked the phone enough to keep it (bought 12/17/10), but it was nice to know that I had the extra time to try out the phone, just in case.
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I'd call call Tmo CS, (talked to 3 different CS reps), and they all told me that Tmo will honor BB's return policy, since you cannot buy the phone from Tmo.
Also, I had them make a note in my account, so that if I would have needed to return the phone on day 29 (for example), that my contract would also be voided.
I didn't end up needing this, as I liked the phone enough to keep it (bought 12/17/10), but it was nice to know that I had the extra time to try out the phone, just in case.
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Wow thats awesome they did that for you...Time and Time again T-Mobile proves they are the best carrier in terms of customer service.
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I have been searching all of the forums for the last two weeks regarding the TP2 and Sprint service, which on the surface sounded good. I purchased a brand new (in the box advertised as not requiring a contract) TP2 and called Sprint to port my number and was informed that even providing my own (paid for) hardware, they will not activate service without a 2 year contract. I'm stunned! Even Verizon will allow activation of your own handset without a contract. I called the CS line and was told that they will not activate without a contract. I guess I will sell this one and go with Verizon. No wonder Sprint has been loosing customers!
IIRC its actually illegal to do that, there was a big class action suit several years ago that forced all cellular providers to allow users to buy the phones and activate without contract
FWIW i activated my TP2 without a contract, i already had sprint (my previous 2 year contract was up and i have the 30 dollar SERO plan so i didnt want to change)
bs. all of my phones have been activated without 2 year. ive been with sprint 8 years.
You can activate the phone online.
I, too, recently activated my TP2 w/Sprint after being out of contract for just over a year. You probably fell on bad luck talking to people who were out of the loop. There are some corporate Sprint stores in malls (not kiosks) that will hook you up.
I actually started with a Sprint store ( 2 hour drive) as I intended to port my number. The Sprint employee at the store is the one that first informed me of the 2 year contract requirement. I then tried CS on their toll free number. The CS person was very polite, and did put me on hold while she supposedly spoke with a supervisor, but the answer was still 'no contreact, no service'. Considering that we do not have GSM service in our area, my only option is to get rid of this phone and go with Verizon. At least I know they will activate my equipment without a contract. It will be interesting to see if the legislation currently being considered by Congress will also include regulation over some of the policies of the cell carriers...
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IIRC its actually illegal to do that, there was a big class action suit several years ago that forced all cellular providers to allow users to buy the phones and activate without contract
FWIW i activated my TP2 without a contract, i already had sprint (my previous 2 year contract was up and i have the 30 dollar SERO plan so i didnt want to change)
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Do you have a link to that legal decision? I have been searching all morning looking for the case, and court ruling. Thanks!
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Do you have a link to that legal decision? I have been searching all morning looking for the case, and court ruling. Thanks!
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this is interesting information, do u mind sharing the actual court ruling document?
i dont remember the details, it was between when i got my first and second cell phone, my first you couldnt just buy a phone, they would only sell you a phone if you got a contract, and when i got my second you could buy the phones (for like $200 more) and activate without a contract, and i was told it was because of a lawsuit
this all like 10 years ago though, so i dont know if that was even the case
http://forums.precentral.net/palm-p...-if-they-buy-phone-full-cost.html#post2231359
Sometimes to get a good deal or something usually requires a 2year contract. No big deal IMO since I have no interest in leaving Sprint anytime soon. Another plus was I was able to get ahold of the department that does discounts and such. (2 years ago I got called for a survey in exchange for a 10% discount). It disapeared from my bill and since I didn't know it was a 2 year only discount (thus the reason for the 2 year contract renewal when they first asked) I asked if there was any way to get another discount. The woman on the phone was really helpful and hooked me up with a $10 off discount for another 2 year contract. HELL YA! So now I have a 1250 Sero plan + $7 insurance - $10. On the bill for April my total after tax, fees, etc was exactly $50.00 on the dot. Love Sprint, Love their service, and their phones are getting better and better. (TP2 has been sweet and the EVO looks ever sweeter. As long as they hook it up with some dang good WM7 phones this summer I can see they have learned a lot about getting into the market with a damn good device to keep competitive.
you need a contract with sprint to get service. They dont do month to month plans.
THATS THE BIG PROBLEM WITH SPRINT THEY HIRE SOME OF THE DUMBEST CUSTOMER SERVICE PEOPLE,but when i have problems i go into the store BECOUSE I KNOW THE PEOPLE THERE HAVE THEIR BRAIN CELLS AND THEY TAKE GOOD CARE OF ME.Sprint has its drawbacks but what company doesnt overall im very satisfied with the company i mean verizon may have better service in my area but they cost more and i have free roaming so now i have better service and im content
At this point I have returned the TP2, and have gone with Verizon without a contract. On this site a post indicated that the 'contract required' is no longer legal based on litigation, but it's not worth my time and energy to fight over it. Like my wife said, "After all this, why would you want to do business with Sprint"?
That about sums it up...
Thank you all for the responses!
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I read through some of the posts. I have activated several phones with Sprint, out of contract. I have 4 lines with Sprint, and I've not been on contract with them for maybe 3 years now. During this time I have activated maybe 6-8 different phones that I have bought on my own (usually on ebay), and never once been required to enter a contract.
The difference with me (and most other respondents) and yourself is we are existing Sprint customers; we have gone through our 1yr or 2yr contract with Sprint.
Verizon is obviously different in that, if you don't get a free or discounted phone from them, then you can obtain service without a contract.
Those of you sharing experiences of not signing a contract when swapping ESn's are off track here.
O.P is NOT an existing customer (*mentions porting his number to Sprint) and was wanting to join Sprint as a new customer but with his own Sprint handset. Sprint does not do month to month service (anymore, though they use to for an additional $10/month yrs ago).
Any current Sprint customer can change out hardware as much as they want and they're not required to modify their contracts. But a new customer joining Sprint whether he/she is bringing their handset is being required to sign a contract, it seems.
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Those of you sharing experiences of not signing a contract when swapping ESn's are off track here.
O.P is NOT an existing customer (*mentions porting his number to Sprint) and was wanting to join Sprint as a new customer but with his own Sprint handset. Sprint does not do month to month service (anymore, though they use to for an additional $10/month yrs ago).
Any current Sprint customer can change out hardware as much as they want and they're not required to modify their contracts. But a new customer joining Sprint whether he/she is bringing their handset is being required to sign a contract, it seems.
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this is true to a certain extent....if you bring a line from a shared account into a separate (new) line but have bad credit, you only have to sign a 6 month contract and go month to month from there. (trust me, i know )
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I guess I will sell this one and go with Verizon. No wonder Sprint has been loosing customers!
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:| why didnt u just flash it to verizon..
well if u lost no money doing this then w/e.....
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This is really on how you play it out man. You can't give up like that homie. Really someone gave you bad info in the first call. You have to be in a contract to get service. But you can get out your contract really easy down the road. If you sign up you have 30 days to kill your service no questions. So if you were going to leave them someone might fix it for you spri-nt is dumb like that. But you have to keep calling you might get someone who is like F&*k my job I'm doing what ever today I'm going to quit. Talk to a female, guys their be tryin to mr tough I know everything you know.
Just wondering and thinking out loud i guess but you could goto a sprint store or online get a crappy feature phone with the cheapest plan that meets your needs then go online and activate your TP2 or whatever smartphone you want. I mean you will be stuck with sprint for 2 years but there prices are really good and if you want to switch devices again say when WP7 comes out your going to have to buy it used or pay full price again anyway idk just my 2 cents
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sprint fan
i am more than happy with sprint.
while sprint has always bent over backwards to help me out other providers with whom i dealt to help out friends and family seem to tun around with their heads so far up their ass they need a glass stomach to keep from running into things.
go sprint
Bought the Nexus S for my brother the day it came out so he would have a christmas present. Well now my brother is eligible for an upgrade so I was thinking of returning it and then having my dad buy it while upgrading the plan and paying $200 instead of $500 for the phone. With the 30 days coming up in a couple days, I want to confirm, does this phone have a 30 day return policy or does the christmas policy apply since it was bought in that "window" to where I have until the 31st. I just will be out of town this weekend and its not easy getting to my dad's place to do this.
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Bought the Nexus S for my brother the day it came out so he would have a christmas present. Well now my brother is eligible for an upgrade so I was thinking of returning it and then having my dad buy it while upgrading the plan and paying $200 instead of $500 for the phone. With the 30 days coming up in a couple days, I want to confirm, does this phone have a 30 day return policy or does the christmas policy apply since it was bought in that "window" to where I have until the 31st. I just will be out of town this weekend and its not easy getting to my dad's place to do this.
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This has been discussed in another thread, and I don't think any one came to a solid conclusion. I wouldn't risk it, personally, but I'm sure we'll all hear about whether it works to the 31st or not come 12/18...
Call your local store, ask for the manager, get his name, and ask him which return policy applies to your purchase.
When i got mine replaced for second time they told me there is 30 days return policy with no restocking fees. Im really frustrated with this phone that i wanna get refund. this is my third phone and all of them had one thing in common sudden loss of data and this last one im using has the reboot issue.
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well I know if you buy it after the 24th then the policy no longer applies but since I bought it on the 16th of december, hopefully its not an issue. Plus im not looking to return it, just put it on contract.
I have the Inspire and I like it! However the ATT service is ok, but believe it or not, it's not as good as my Sprint service.
I am still within my 30 days. I got the Inspire from Bestbuy Online and I also paid a $150 deposit. Last week I paid my first bill which was also prorated. But when I called ATT today to inquire about if I get my deposit back if I cancel within 30 days, the rep told me that I'd have to contact Bestbuy for that.
This doesn't sound correct because when I purchased my phone from Best online and I paid the deposit, it was a statement that read that the deposit goes to ATT and that Bestbuy has nothing to do it.
So if anyone ever purchased a phone through Bestbuy and canceled service with ATT within 30 days of starting service...did you get any money back that you originally paid between when you started service and canceled service? Was it a speedy process?
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I have the Inspire and I like it! However the ATT service is ok, but believe it or not, it's not as good as my Sprint service.
I am still within my 30 days. I got the Inspire from Bestbuy Online and I also paid a $150 deposit. Last week I paid my first bill which was also prorated. But when I called ATT today to inquire about if I get my deposit back if I cancel within 30 days, the rep told me that I'd have to contact Bestbuy for that.
This doesn't sound correct because when I purchased my phone from Best online and I paid the deposit, it was a statement that read that the deposit goes to ATT and that Bestbuy has nothing to do it.
So if anyone ever purchased a phone through Bestbuy and canceled service with ATT within 30 days of starting service...did you get any money back that you originally paid between when you started service and canceled service? Was it a speedy process?
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You'll get your Deposit back within 2 billing cycles via check from ATT, not BBY.
One thing to note, AT&T only cancels on billing cycles, so if you cancel in the first 30 days wait till day 28 or 29, because they don't refund prorate or first month's service.
Also, make sure you get documentation from BBY stating you cancelled, just for your own protection.
Ill give the short version... preordered on the 15th. told i'd get today. rep NEVER told me i needed to sign some email for verification. Email was sent to some god awful old address i dont even use. all that was offered was a $10 credit. Ive been w/ tmobile since like 02' and thats the best they can do??. call back and he can give a free month but only if i extend for 2 yrs....no thanks. So now i have to go to the store tomorrow and wait another day to get the phone. Oh ya btw i dropped my current phone in the toilet and it doesnt work so i have no phone @ the moment. im so livid I cant even see straight...... seriously considering another carrier just off of principle alone..
Call and talk to customer retention... They'll do much better.
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both offers WERE from retention...i thought they could do much better as well.
Wait, what email? I received no email. Did you get tracking info?
Retention's not doing deals like they used to. I got a G2 from them for $249 with 16 months left on my contract. For the G2X they (mutiple agents) told me if I wanted to go to VZW, maybe I should. My average bill per month for the past 12 months is $350ish because of international roaming. Once the AT&T deal closes I'm going to take their advice and move back to VZW. By then, VZW will have LTE well implemented and a dual-core Android worldphone. With high-value post paid customer gone, T-Mobile can focus all thier attention on $29 per month prepaid customers which, based on CSR attitude, is what they'd prefer.
They did the 249 for me on 2 g2x. I was at the sprint store.
I would of had a deposit on sprint. So it evened out.
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Wait, what email? I received no email. Did you get tracking info?
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it was an email with a "electronic signature" link that needed to be clicked to confirm the phone. i mean I confirmed my full social, secret code, billing AND shipping address. I dont see why this was even needed. I received no tracking info because it was never shipped.
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Retention's not doing deals like they used to....... cont'd
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it seems like your right. I mean lets be serious. they KNOW i want the phone. hell I already bought accesorries for it so ya I am going to get it. its just how they went about the whole thing was so wrong i could not believe i was speaking with tmobile. The last guy who offered the free month w/ 2yr extension @ one point said " what do you want us to do?" and not in a helpful way. Like a "we dont care if you cancel;good riddance" kind of way. im still in shock over the whole thing. But its like im trapped. either shake this off and get the phone or go with another carrier, get charged an ETF for breaking contract then getting a higher bill with AT&T, sprint ,etc.
I had a $400 flexpay available which I took... There was on ONLINE form which required me to type in my name.
The only email I got was that my payment went through and it shipped.
Mine said it was supposed to be here Monday so I sold my N1 online. I called last night because it hadn't arrived nor had UPS showed it was even shipped. The lady on the phone told me that online orders were "pre-orders" and the phone wasn't even supposed to ship until Wednesday. I had her and her manager go to the website and tell me where, anywhere, did it say a preorder. I also said people were getting them already and they "assured" me that no one was getting them yet.
I actually had the supervisor cancel the order because I said I'd rather pick it up Wednesday rather then have it ship Wednesday. 20 minutes after I got off the phone, UPS showed it was picked up and scheduled for next day delivery. So I don't even know if they cancelled it or just got it shipped.
Just cancel it and pick one up at the store tomorrow. At this point it isn't even worth fighting with them to get it shipped. I ordered mine Friday with standard shipping and I just got mine a few minutes ago.
Customer retention did me right on today. To make a long story short I have had problems with my Vibrant since day one back in July. From the GPS to the freezing and reboots. T-Mobile has sent me 5 Vibrants since August and when I called on today I asked to speak with a manager. I told them I would like to cancel my account because I spent $500 on a phone and they have done nothing to fix it for me. I told them I tried every GPS fix known to man but none of them worked to my standards. I play golf and use Skydroid so I need the GPS to be pretty damn accurate. It worked fine on my N1 and MyTouch 3g. She then said "I can give you a $200 credit if you upgrade your device." I told her if she looked at my account I haven't been under contract with them for 3 years and have purchased my last 4 devices off contract so what makes you think I want to sign a 2 year contract now with this AT&T merger looming around. She asked me how they could keep me as a customer and I asked her what the value of my used Vibrant was. She told me $354. I then said, "the only way I will remain a T-Mobile customer is if they buy my Vibrant back for $354 and I purchase a G2x off contact for the difference". She put me on hold for 5 minutes and came back and said they would be willing to do that and would ship my G2x tomorrow and after I receive it I have 7 days to return my Vibrant. She even asked me if I would like to pay for the G2x right now or just add the cost to my bill. I chose to pay it now and should have a G2x in my hand by Friday for less than what people are paying to upgrade. Big deal, my Vibrant is gone but I got two cores of goodness for a little over $150 off contract.
Ask for a rep to come bring you a phone immediately. That's how you only paid $100 for the phone with no contract right?
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Customer retention did me right on today. To make a long story short I have had problems with my Vibrant since day one back in July. From the GPS to the freezing and reboots. T-Mobile has sent me 5 Vibrants since August and when I called on today I asked to speak with a manager. I told them I would like to cancel my account because I spent $500 on a phone and they have done nothing to fix it for me. I told them I tried every GPS fix known to man but none of them worked to my standards. I play golf and use Skydroid so I need the GPS to be pretty damn accurate. It worked fine on my MyTouch 3g. She then said "I can give you a $200 credit if you upgrade your device." I told her if she looked at my account I haven't been under contract with them for 3 years and have purchased my last 4 devices off contract so what makes you think I want to sign a 2 year contract now with this AT&T merger looming around. She asked me how they could keep me as a customer and I asked her what the value of my used Vibrant was. She told me $354. I then said, "the only way I will remain a T-Mobile customer is if they buy my Vibrant back for $354 and I purchase a G2x off contact for the difference". She put me on hold for 5 minutes and came back and said they would be willing to do that and would ship my G2x tomorrow and after I receive it I have 7 days to return my Vibrant. She even asked me if I would like to pay for the G2x right now or just add the cost to my bill. I chose to pay it now and should have a G2x in my hand by Friday for less than what people are paying to upgrade. Big deal, my Vibrant is gone but I got two cores of goodness for a little over $150 off contract.
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Awesome. This is what retention is meant for. You had a real serious legitimate issue and were considering cancelling. The people that are saying retention isn't doing what they used to are likely people that threaten to cancel whenever they want to get something. T-Mobile sees your history and how often you talk to retention or get deals from them. Eventually they will just call your bluff.
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it was an email with a "electronic signature" link that needed to be clicked to confirm the phone. i mean I confirmed my full social, secret code, billing AND shipping address. I dont see why this was even needed. I received no tracking info because it was never shipped.
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Blame your state. That's why this is in place. What other carrier lets you split your phone up in payments? I'll go with.... none. It was their fault for not checking the email addy but come on it is only one more day.
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Retention's not doing deals like they used to. I got a G2 from them for $249 with 16 months left on my contract. For the G2X they (mutiple agents) told me if I wanted to go to VZW, maybe I should. My average bill per month for the past 12 months is $350ish because of international roaming. Once the AT&T deal closes I'm going to take their advice and move back to VZW. By then, VZW will have LTE well implemented and a dual-core Android worldphone. With high-value post paid customer gone, T-Mobile can focus all thier attention on $29 per month prepaid customers which, based on CSR attitude, is what they'd prefer.
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That's the full discounted price of the phone, so sounds like a good deal they gave you, but they should never had told u to go back to VZW, they should have went thru the bill and lowered it and also gave you an unlock code for your current phone so when you roam internationally you can just grab a pre-paid sim from where ever you are for way cheaper prices.
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Awesome. This is what retention is meant for. You had a real serious legitimate issue and were considering cancelling. The people that are saying retention isn't doing what they used to are likely people that threaten to cancel whenever they want to get something. T-Mobile sees your history and how often you talk to retention or get deals from them. Eventually they will just call your bluff.
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i completely agree however im not one of those people who call and complain for every little issue. truth is ive NEVER had an issue with tmobile until this happened. 1st time ever threatening to cancel and 1st time speaking w/ retention.
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but come on it is only one more day.
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the only reason its an issue is because i have no phone @ the moment. (see 1st post) so in the rare case that there was an emergency and I needed a phone id be screwed.If i did still have a phone i'd be annoyed but would have just took it for what it is. A retarded mixup on their part. Which is what im doing
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i completely agree however im not one of those people who call and complain for every little issue. truth is ive NEVER had an issue with tmobile until this happened. 1st time ever threatening to cancel and 1st time speaking w/ retention.
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I definitely wasn't calling you out specifically, more just a general statement, or if anyone specifically it was Barry that said they aren't doing what they used to.
Regarding your situation, if they offered you a free month, that is usually the most retention will give as far as financial credits, and it will always require a 2 year contract from my experience (in customer care, not as a customer threatening to cancel).
You really want to go to some crap company over a couple days, when you are the one who ruined your other phone?? And if you are buying this, I am sure you can afford to spend $20 for a prepaid at walmart to give you the basic functionality that is essential. Geesh
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it was an email with a "electronic signature" link that needed to be clicked to confirm the phone. i mean I confirmed my full social, secret code, billing AND shipping address. I dont see why this was even needed. I received no tracking info because it was never shipped.
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I was still in contract with 10 months to go for a full upgrade. When I called, I asked about the upgrade. When the CSR told me I didn't qualify for the upgrade I immediately asked how much it would be just to cancel the service. She said "$200" and my reply to her was "Thats it? I may as well just do that then." She right away offered me a full upgrade.
I too had to go along with the electronic signature but my CSR was nice enough to ask me what email to send it to and let me know when it was coming. I feel for you, man. It's a shame that most companies are straying away from quality customer service, especially with consumers that have been long term with the company. I guarantee if you were a new customer, they would have bent over backwards for you.
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the only reason its an issue is because i have no phone @ the moment. (see 1st post) so in the rare case that there was an emergency and I needed a phone id be screwed.If i did still have a phone i'd be annoyed but would have just took it for what it is. A retarded mixup on their part. Which is what im doing
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How have you been with tmo that long and don't have a phone laying around? I have at least 3 that I could dig up and throw a sim in.
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I work for Walmart. Yes there is a 14 day return policy, but if you read the fine print it is actually a 30 day return policy.
1. Walmart will return anything, it's part of their policy. Many times they will even after their said return timeframe. I recently saw 2 iphone 4's returned after 60 days at the same time.
2. If you look closely at your receipt and carrier contract it clearly says 30 days.
3. If they give you a hard time just try a different Walmart, sometimes the management in some stores are more lenient on returns.
4. If you still have problems google Walmarts return policy and recite it to them. They will work with you when you let them know you know their policies.
I have seen slot of posts recently about people maybe returning their Sensations with the bootloader controversy, I hope this info will help somebody.
Personally I am keeping my sensation because if HTC doesn't unlock it a dev will eventually. I personally think this is the best phone available and can't wait to overclock it and release it's full potential.
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Looked over my receipt. Only time it mentions a 30 day return policy is for California residents
Return cell phones from Walmart
So I know this is a couple years after you posted about returning phones, but I need advice on the subject. I have a Walmart Family Mobile T-Mobile phone. And I want to return my old family mobile phone so o can get some food. Will the accept my phone return without a recipe?
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QUOTE=wadill;14957725]I work for Walmart. Yes there is a 14 day return policy, but if you read the fine print it is actually a 30 day return policy.
1. Walmart will return anything, it's part of their policy. Many times they will even after their said return timeframe. I recently saw 2 iphone 4's returned after 60 days at the same time.
2. If you look closely at your receipt and carrier contract it clearly says 30 days.
3. If they give you a hard time just try a different Walmart, sometimes the management in some stores are more lenient on returns.
4. If you still have problems google Walmarts return policy and recite it to them. They will work with you when you let them know you know their policies.
I have seen slot of posts recently about people maybe returning their Sensations with the bootloader controversy, I hope this info will help somebody.
Personally I am keeping my sensation because if HTC doesn't unlock it a dev will eventually. I personally think this is the best phone available and can't wait to overclock it and release it's full potential.
Sincerely,
Wadill
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