Ok, I really have read existing threads related to similar problems, but I am completely stuck on the boot screen (not bootloader screen) with my Tilt.
I flashed Dutty's 6.1 ROM last week and all had been working fine until last night. The phone was stuck with screen lock (screen nor buttons would respond). So, I performed soft reset and it just stopped at 'smart mobility' boot screen. I then performed hard reset, and again it just stopped and hung at 'smart mobility' screen.
This morning I got into the bootloader screen (power + camera + reset) and flashed original ROM (well, new officiall AT&T ROM released last month). Original ROM flashed successfully, but it now hangs on AT&T boot screen. I have tried hardspl, and flashing multiple ROMs, which all complete successfully, but it always hangs at the boot screen.
Thoughts?
what radio are u using?
Well, with Dutty's I was using 1.64.08.21 that came with the ROM... When I flashed to the stock AT&T ROM, I used the radio included with it as well (1.27.14.09).
tmac said:
Well, with Dutty's I was using 1.64.08.21 that came with the ROM... When I flashed to the stock AT&T ROM, I used the radio included with it as well (1.27.14.09).
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Dutty's didn't come with a radio.
Well, I was using 1.64.08.21.. Right now, I have the stock ROM flashed with 1.27.14.09
I have a similar problem. I flashed alex rom yesturday then I flashed back to OEM to test something then today I flashed back to alex cube rom and it said flash was successful but when I did a hard reset during the "Tap screen to begin" my phone go stuck in the AT&T inital logo. I tried connecting to USB to reflash but USB won't detect the phone. I have hard reset, removed battery, and no avail. Does this mean I bricked my phone?
To clarify, I have been doing these for some time and also had and 8125 previously, so I understand the flashing process. I also understand that there are only certain radios that work with WM 6.1 and 6.0. This doesn't appear to be a radio incompatibility issue. As I mentioned, I was using Dutty's 6.1 ROM just fine for several days before this happened. I had been using Sleuth's 6.1 prior to that.
Tim
You always should re-flash the radio AFTER flashing the ROM. Pt yuor device into boot loader (hold camera, power & reset button). Reflash the Radio. If that doesn't work PM me & I'll walk you thru looking for bad memory blocks.
hchavarria said:
I have a similar problem. I flashed alex rom yesturday then I flashed back to OEM to test something then today I flashed back to alex cube rom and it said flash was successful but when I did a hard reset during the "Tap screen to begin" my phone go stuck in the AT&T inital logo. I tried connecting to USB to reflash but USB won't detect the phone. I have hard reset, removed battery, and no avail. Does this mean I bricked my phone?
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NO, it does not mean brick. It means you may want to try another USB port, check the activesync connection settings, & possibly reflash using the SD card.
Edit: After looking at your MTTY feedback, & confering with a few of the Gods, I have to unfortunately tell you that your NAND chip appears to be damaged beyond flushing. The blocks can't even be erased, & that's the problem. When you reflash the blocks have previous ROM data still stored & because of the NAND damage they cannot be overwritten. Return under MFG warranty is all you can do. (Believe me, I really hate saying this & even got confirmation from Pof & Jocky) Sorry Guy.
My 30-day return policy date is tomorrow so I went to the AT&T store today and they swapped it out with a new device. They mentioned next time I have to ship it.
Could this have happened because of to much flashing? Or was this possibly an already existing defect?
I got a new one shipped to my overnight. There was obviously something wrong with it, as I tried everything under the sun. Flashed new ROM, then flashed new radio, flashed original ROM, etc. Everything gets stuck on the boot screen. At one point yesterday, I left it at the boot screen for a couple hours and it finally booted up, but then locked up again once it did. Then next time I reset, it got stuck on the boot screen again.
Please tell me you installed hardspl first?
Soft Reset Looping - Dead Kaiser
Hi all,
I have been flashing/testing many roms for a number of years now. I particularly enjoyed Jasjamming in my Tytn I days. Now...
Great work seen by many developers.
When I first got my Kaiser, i tried HardSPL, and had "white screen" issue, I then followed instructions on "white screen" thread....copied cab to kaiser....ran cab from kaiser..........eventually was able to flash to a new/ different ROM
However, I recently flashed my Kaiser and after using it for 6-7 hours after flash, it soft reset itself. It continued to keep soft reseting itself without geting to boot screen. It kept reading "smart mobility" and it would reset, vibrate, reset, vibrate, reset.......
I tried EVERYTHING - remove battery, flash back to original ROM, change radio (bootloader worked in safe mode - holding down camera button), but to no avail.
I then tried MTTY, and no go with this too. I eventually had to give my phone back in to HTC.
The question I ask is what is the cause of this? Is it excessive flashing? Is is HardSPL? Any comments/ suggestions would be welcomed...
Many thanks
P1Tater said:
Please tell me you installed hardspl first?
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If you are asking me that question, the answer is yes I did run hardspl. As I mentioned, I have been doing this for long enough that I know what I am doing. I also mentioned that I was successfully running Sleuth's 6.1 for a month or two before switching to Dutty's new 6.1. I was only running Dutty's for a few days before all of this happened.
There is definitely something wrong.. if I let it sit long enough, it will eventually boot. It will work for a few minutes, and then lock up again. Once I reset, it sits on the boot screen for a couple hours again. I have flashed several different ROMs and Radios to get different results, but the results are always the same.. It hangs at the boot screen.
I guess you have also tried going to the tri-color screen and re-flashing as well as a HR or MTTY command
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If you are asking me that question, the answer is yes I did run hardspl. As I mentioned, I have been doing this for long enough that I know what I am doing. I also mentioned that I was successfully running Sleuth's 6.1 for a month or two before switching to Dutty's new 6.1. I was only running Dutty's for a few days before all of this happened.
There is definitely something wrong.. if I let it sit long enough, it will eventually boot. It will work for a few minutes, and then lock up again. Once I reset, it sits on the boot screen for a couple hours again. I have flashed several different ROMs and Radios to get different results, but the results are always the same.. It hangs at the boot screen.
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Please don't take offence to my probing, as my questions weren't directly directed to you. All I am saying is that we need to understand what is the actual cause of this problem, or we all will be "flashing in the dark", and fearing that this problem could be imminent every time we flash in the future.
Many thanks.
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I guess you have also tried going to the tri-color screen and re-flashing as well as a HR or MTTY command
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P1 - Since I can't get the phone to boot completely (well, except for waiting several hours), the only way that I have been flashing different ROMs is from the tri-color screen. Regardless of what ROM or Radio I try, it still just hangs at the boot screen. The only thing I haven't tried was MTTY.
AvinashDhaniraj said:
Please don't take offence to my probing, as my questions weren't directly directed to you. All I am saying is that we need to understand what is the actual cause of this problem, or we all will be "flashing in the dark", and fearing that this problem could be imminent every time we flash in the future.
Many thanks.
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I was actually replying to P1, hence the reason I quoted him. So, I don't take offense to anything you said.
Well, I hope your not getting offended to my questions? I am just trying to cover all of the simple fixes first since those have been the majority of the things that fix "Most" people's issues. I suggest getting in touch with GSLeon3. He has a pretty good handle on what goes on in flashing and all of the fixes.
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Well, I hope your not getting offended to my questions? I am just trying to cover all of the simple fixes first since those have been the majority of the things that fix "Most" people's issues. I suggest getting in touch with GSLeon3. He has a pretty good handle on what goes on in flashing and all of the fixes.
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Not offended at all... I am appreciative of the suggestions.
Was installing duttys rom when my anti-virus program started. Update failed and since then all I see is the tri-colour screen. Sometimes I can get the rom updater to recognise my TyTNII but it will not continue to upgrade. Any suggestions. Have tried mtty1.42 but it doesn't seem to have a usb port option, have tried hard reset etc with no luck. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
An update, I have tried several rom updates since, most get to the stage where the progress bar is shown and the stop. The HTC update to revert to shipped rom gets to 1% and then tells me that this rom is not suitable for my pda!
How about some more information...
What is your Tytn II - Tilt or HTC?
What Rom was on it before you tried upgrading?
What Radio was on it before you tried upgrading?
What version of Duttys did you try to flash?
Did you upgrade to HardSPL before you tried flashing?
This should enable someone to begin trying to unbrick your phone.
Also DO NOT USE MTTY unless you know what you are doing - it can seriously kill your Tytn if used incorrectly. Wait for GSLEON3 to swing by before trying this - but he's very busy at the moment helping others unbrick their toys so you may have to wait for a while.
If you had an original rom/radio from AT&T or HTC it shouldn't hurt trying to download an original rom and try to flash - preferably using your SD card.
Also, while you're waiting for someone to help, have a good read through the Kaiser Wiki (in my signature) before trying anything else.
what are the steps that u take? let us know if u are missing any
HTC TyTN 11, Was using Q-mobile 1.2 but couldn't install tom tom navigator 6, don't know what radio it was using because i hadn't got that far. Was trying to flash Dutty's 6.1 and I had run jumpspl from device because I got the white screen when I treid to run 1.93 so installed 1.56 to pda and ran it. this worked to insatll Q-mobile this morning.
Hope this helps!
what are the steps that u take? let us know if u are missing any
Try to reset pda keep getting tri-colour, attach usb and usb shows at base of screen. When i try to install rom The problem in my second post occurs. I cannot hard reset device to anything other than the tri-colour
Thanks for your help, I tried one of the roms indicated and it worked! I have spent so much time reading various wikis and downloading files. I'm not entirely sure why it worked this time but I'm not about to ask questions! Thanks again!
OK, now you've got your phone working again, make sure that you get HardSPL installed before you try anymore flashing.
ok i was installing KAIS_Radinly_0.26.07.06_CustomRUU and it froze at 96% and now my phone is bricked!! every time i restart the phone its stuck at the RED GREEN BLUE and WHITE screen.. i tried using mtty but then im not trying to mess my phone up any more. i dont understand how to fix it.. if i download a new ROM and put it on my SD card then how do i read it with my phone? sorry guys, im a noob at this as you can tell..
nm guys. i just ran the new rom and it worked! haha sorry for posting too quick!
okay i have one problem after fixing it. i downloaded the TEST rom for the ATT tilt and now every time i reboot my phone it says 'TEST ONLY. NOT FOR SALE.' how do i get rid of this? when i installed a new rom it still says this and i even tried hard resetting my phone but it did not reset anything to factory settings. it just reloaded the rom that i last had!
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okay i have one problem after fixing it. i downloaded the TEST rom for the ATT tilt and now every time i reboot my phone it says 'TEST ONLY. NOT FOR SALE.' how do i get rid of this? when i installed a new rom it still says this and i even tried hard resetting my phone but it did not reset anything to factory settings. it just reloaded the rom that i last had!
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserFAQ
your answer is in there
I have been flashing several ROMs trying to find the right one for me, including trying to cook my own ROM which caused me to flash several times due to testing my progress. At this point I flashed NATF v.1.2 ROM which seemed to work pretty good but all of a sudden my Fuze froze and I did a soft reset and now my phone will not go past the boot screen. I can reach SPL (Tri-Color Screen). I do have Hard-SPL installed since it reads SPL-1.90.OliNex
I have tried to flash the stock AT&T ROM and I get the same problem, it won't move past the boot screen. Does this mean a bad Nand and needs to be exchanged or is there something I can do to save my Fuze?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...actedRadioRoms
If yours is from ATT, you want 1.01.25.16 - download using one of the links under the RUU column.
flash it to the device.
Sean
sean_nj said:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...actedRadioRoms
If yours is from ATT, you want 1.01.25.16 - download using one of the links under the RUU column.
flash it to the device.
Sean
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I have been using the official radio that came which was 1.02.25.32. I just noticed that if I reset the device a couple times it boots up fine. But if you reset again it get's stuck at boot.
Current Setup :
HardSPL (latest, 3.56 I believe)
Radio: 1.65.29.22 (from Niki or Neon, almost positive it was Niki)
Solace v3.1
Decided I wanted to go back to newest radio, attempted to flash to it; hit a snag at about 78%. Progress didn't update for a while, then to 100%. Update app said there was a flash error, and it did not complete correctly. Device restarted, stuck at bootloader. Re-attempted the flash, same result.
Next, I tried flashing AT&T's latest ROM. Stalled at about 76%, message about having a communication error, walked through the apps troubleshooting steps; it tried (and failed) again.
Tried the latest HTC direct ROM, same result.
Tried to flash the latest HTC via MicroSD card, got 20(ish) percent through, the Radio line then went red and said "RSA Failure". Then that whole process died on me as well.
The only way I can get my device back up to run MTTY to remove the RUU flag. When issuing the "task 8" command to format, it instead reboots the phone. The phone will come up normally after that.
Since I got it back up, I have tried flashing once again, and am getting the same result. Am I just stuck here now?
It's not that I don't like this ROM, I'm just wanting to update the radio. Any ideas what else I might be able to try?
Try using the search function next time before you create a new thread.
If you would tryed you could find this post
Yes, thank you...except that I started my thread saying that the proposed solution was exactly what CAUSED the problem to begin with. I tried to flash to the 1.70.x radio, which is where I got the flash write error.
Anyone else?
Now that you can get it up normally, have you tried going to a stock HTC ROM first, then the new ROM, then the radio? Or HTC, radio, new ROM? I'd probably do it the second way. You said you tried flashing stock before getting it up again, and that you tried flashing after getting it back up, but you didn't state what you've tried flashing after getting it back up.
Since I've gotten it back up, I've tried both OEM and radio only. Both have the same result.
Really at a loss now as to what to try next.
Did you try the 3.29Hard2 SPL? I haven't encountered your issue and wish I could be mroe help here. My only thoughts would be to try a different SPL, or perhaps looking into the ForceUSB issue. Best of luck.
This isn't the first time I've flashed but this is the first time I've encountered this much trouble so here's the story:
I've put in a CWN-Based recovery, and I've tried to flash OverDrive ROM, when I boot into the ROM I get a blank screen and nothing happens. I've tried adding the PicaSticks Kernel to is as well, and I get a red "Hello" (not the a full startup screen) and then back to the blank again. I also tried one other ROM (the name escapes me), both ROM's claiming to have the blank screen fixed.
Also, If I flash to a Gingerbread, and my phone has been activated once before (it's off right now I have paid it yet this month), do I still need a Froyo before I can upgrade it to Gingerbread?
Any help at all with this is appreciated, thanks in advanced.
Update: I got Xionia to flash into it and I've wiped all the things it says to do prior to installing, then I'm installing Overdrive 2.2 (Android 2.2.2) de-odexed and I get a blank screen still. Not sure what to try from here. I also cannot even flash a different kernel. I feel so stupid here.
I am really not able to understand your queries.
Could you please start from the beginning :fingers-crossed: