The upside down screen saga. - G Tablet General

After much reading here, it seems pretty clear (pardon the pun) that the G tab's screen has been installed upside down. Certainly I am one of the many who think that the screen is excellent when viewed upside down.
I thought I would summarise the solutions and suggestions I have read so far (in no particular order):
1. Install ADW which will let you rotate home screen (I don't know if this lets you rotate other stuff like videos)
2. Install CyanogenMod7 because it has ADW in it
3. Remove the screen, turn it around and put it back on (unfortunately, I read that the cable behind the screen is too short to allow this)
4. Somehow trick the G tab into orienting itself 180 degrees the other way (software?, hardware - rotate the sensors?)
Please feel free to add to these in this thread, just so we have the info all in one place.
I am a complete newbie with no software nor hardware experience, so I don't know how to even think about solving it, but it seems to me that the screen problem is currently the biggest issue with this device.
If there is anybody who can suggest a better solution for this, I'm sure there are many of us who would appreciate it very much.

I just realised that number 3 suggestion is silly! That would just mean that you have to hold the tab upside down and the angle would still be bad.
I think a way of "tricking" the tab might be best. Anyone?

I'm curious about the 'camps' people are in here:
1) The camp that believes that the viewing angles are better when the device is upside down suggesting some kind of manufacturing defect when the screen and polarization filters were installed - I am not in this camp, the screen is equally bad up or down for me
2) Those who feel due to the placement of the speakers and other ports, they'd prefer the screen orientated in the other direction
3) both
Is there another camp we should be aware of? Cast your vote, which camp do you belong in?
And I agree, lets try to consolidate just to this thread, too many 'screen orientation' threads going at the moment

I was hoping this thread could just be for suggestions on how to consistently view the screen upside down.

I don't think there is a good consistent way. YouTube (for example) and other apps will default to the standard orientation no matter if you use ADW to rotate your homescreen. I understand why you feel the way you do, but in my opinion they made the right choice for panel orientation. If you flipped the panel and then tried to dock the tablet the viewing angles would make it impossible to use unless you were looking at it from the bottom up. When I'm holding it in my lap I can always adjust the way I view it to compensate for the panel deficiencies. So long story short I think the panel orientation is correct even though it is not always ideal.
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geoffreywolter said:
If you flipped the panel and then tried to dock the tablet the viewing angles would make it impossible to use unless you were looking at it from the bottom up.
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Thanks for your reply. I don't understand this part above?
The screen looks best to most of us when looking slightly downwards at it, so that would mean when it's in a dock the top of the tab would need to be tilted towards you to get the best angle.
When you dock it, does the top of the tab tilt towards you? I would have thought it sloped slightly away from the viewer at the top?

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G-Tablet hurting my vision?

I've owned a large range of devices, and I understand viewing angles, so I am hoping I have a bad LCD production run model.
When I hold the tablet in portrait everything seems... 3D? As in blurry, as if each eye is slightly off. It really messes me up for an hour. I know that many laptop screens are similar and I have been playing with them at different angles but I don't get that effect.
Anyone see that, or should I take it back for an exchange?
jar299 said:
I've owned a large range of devices, and I understand viewing angles, so I am hoping I have a bad LCD production run model.
When I hold the tablet in portrait everything seems... 3D? As in blurry, as if each eye is slightly off. It really messes me up for an hour. I know that many laptop screens are similar and I have been playing with them at different angles but I don't get that effect.
Anyone see that, or should I take it back for an exchange?
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when u use it in portrait use it with the soft keys on top and tilt it slightly to the right...I dont think it was made to be used in portrait but just do that
jar299 said:
I've owned a large range of devices, and I understand viewing angles, so I am hoping I have a bad LCD production run model.
When I hold the tablet in portrait everything seems... 3D? As in blurry, as if each eye is slightly off. It really messes me up for an hour. I know that many laptop screens are similar and I have been playing with them at different angles but I don't get that effect.
Anyone see that, or should I take it back for an exchange?
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Yeah I know exactly what you are talking about. Its from the viewing angle issue. One eye sees the screen perfectly crisp and the other sees it with a slight blur, so it messes with your brain. Its even worse for me because one eye already sees blurry.
KnightCrusader said:
Yeah I know exactly what you are talking about. Its from the viewing angle issue. One eye sees the screen perfectly crisp and the other sees it with a slight blur, so it messes with your brain. Its even worse for me because one eye already sees blurry.
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And by tomorrow, someone will file a class action law suit expecting to get a million dollars.
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And by tomorrow, someone will file a class action law suit expecting to get a million dollars.
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Kind of like in the movie The Jerk, when people's eyes go cross-eyed
The screen is upside down. Im unsure exactly why they designed it this way, but it is. I'm sure theres a good reason, just wish I knew what it was. If you find your eyes becoming fatigued, you can do a few things.
* Flip the Device upside down. Viewing angles are better, at least for washed out colors and tilted viewing.
* Move the device further back from your face. May not be possible, but that "two feet" rule exists for a reason. (or four feet depending on how rabid your companies ergonomic's "expert" is... I swear its a scam)
* Keep the device directly in front of your face, the center of the screen should be exactly where your nose is.
* Use it less? Hmm.. Thats why its last
Truth be told, this is a problem with all LCDs, from your desktop to phones, TVs, etc. Its just more appreant with a tablet as it sits close to your face. It sucks, but until OLED or eink become usable (in the way we want it to.. ie LCD quaility. Theyre both excellent for long time viewing, but lack speed, or the price is too high) we'll have to live with it.
Cyhawk said:
The screen is upside down. Im unsure exactly why they designed it this way, but it is. I'm sure theres a good reason, just wish I knew what it was. If you find your eyes becoming fatigued, you can do a few things.
* Flip the Device upside down. Viewing angles are better, at least for washed out colors and tilted viewing.
* Move the device further back from your face. May not be possible, but that "two feet" rule exists for a reason. (or four feet depending on how rabid your companies ergonomic's "expert" is... I swear its a scam)
* Keep the device directly in front of your face, the center of the screen should be exactly where your nose is.
* Use it less? Hmm.. Thats why its last
Truth be told, this is a problem with all LCDs, from your desktop to phones, TVs, etc. Its just more appreant with a tablet as it sits close to your face. It sucks, but until OLED or eink become usable (in the way we want it to.. ie LCD quaility. Theyre both excellent for long time viewing, but lack speed, or the price is too high) we'll have to live with it.
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Very well said. Thank you
The screen is small compared to my desktop system. THe real chalange
Is typing on the pad
rushless said:
Kind of like in the movie The Jerk, when people's eyes go cross-eyed
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I don't need you! I don't need anyone! all I need is this gtab! that's it, nothing else! and well this lamp, but that's it! that's all I need is this gtab and this lamp... lol
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Cyhawk said:
The screen is upside down. Im unsure exactly why they designed it this way, but it is. I'm sure theres a good reason, just wish I knew what it was. If you find your eyes becoming fatigued, you can do a few things.
* Flip the Device upside down. Viewing angles are better, at least for washed out colors and tilted viewing.
* Move the device further back from your face. May not be possible, but that "two feet" rule exists for a reason. (or four feet depending on how rabid your companies ergonomic's "expert" is... I swear its a scam)
* Keep the device directly in front of your face, the center of the screen should be exactly where your nose is.
* Use it less? Hmm.. Thats why its last
Truth be told, this is a problem with all LCDs, from your desktop to phones, TVs, etc. Its just more appreant with a tablet as it sits close to your face. It sucks, but until OLED or eink become usable (in the way we want it to.. ie LCD quaility. Theyre both excellent for long time viewing, but lack speed, or the price is too high) we'll have to live with it.
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It's also more apparent with tablets because we hold them at all sorts of angles while with nb & LCD monitors for desktops we pretty much set them to our tastes...
Anyways, I find that I can read text fine(portrait) in FBReader but many other apps I do note the portrait mode oddities, esp. the ones that force portrait mode. I've also used spare parts to turn off compat mode, which I've done on every tablet that I've used so far w/no problems.
Can the brightness on the G Tab be hacked/changed to be even less bright? Even at the lowest setting reading ebooks at night, I find it to be too bright.
I wanted to love the G-Tablet but the display issues finally became a deal killer for me. I have been struggling with the viewing angle problems and last night when I tried to read some comics I got that 3d effect mentioned by the OP.
I don't know if it's a bad batch of displays or if that's just the way they are made but I'm taking mine back to Sears for a refund. One would think that a company that specializes in video displays would have gotten this right.
My wife has an Ipad and it doesn't have ANY viewing angle problems, I guess it uses a different technology.
Cyhawk said:
The screen is upside down. Im unsure exactly why they designed it this way, but it is. I'm sure theres a good reason, just wish I knew what it was. If you find your eyes becoming fatigued, you can do a few things.
* Flip the Device upside down. Viewing angles are better, at least for washed out colors and tilted viewing.
* Move the device further back from your face. May not be possible, but that "two feet" rule exists for a reason. (or four feet depending on how rabid your companies ergonomic's "expert" is... I swear its a scam)
* Keep the device directly in front of your face, the center of the screen should be exactly where your nose is.
* Use it less? Hmm.. Thats why its last
Truth be told, this is a problem with all LCDs, from your desktop to phones, TVs, etc. Its just more appreant with a tablet as it sits close to your face. It sucks, but until OLED or eink become usable (in the way we want it to.. ie LCD quaility. Theyre both excellent for long time viewing, but lack speed, or the price is too high) we'll have to live with it.
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Where's the "like" button in this forum?
lamlam01 said:
Can the brightness on the G Tab be hacked/changed to be even less bright? Even at the lowest setting reading ebooks at night, I find it to be too bright.
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I can't read this thing with the "Day" mode (black on white background). I use Aldiko in Night Mode and then just turn down the brightness to my liking.
Some have mentioned that the 50 Mhz setting might be increasing the eye fatigue, which might have some validity.

G-Tablet Screen Modification?

So I'm looking at a tablet, it's between the G-Tab and the Archos 101. I like the hardware better on the G-Tab, but keep reading negative things about the screen. Is it possible or has anyone attempted to turn the screen the correct way?
yea im very interested in this also. theres a thread on how to open it up, i mean if we could get a DIY for turning the screen itd be awesome. Help a lot in terms of viewing angles also
There May Be LCD Replacements in the future but atm None that I Know of. There are some that fit but the plugs seem to be wrong. Eather way it might be costly.
I honestly don't know what the big issue with the screen is. It works fine for me. Sure, you may have to move it a little bit one way or the other to find the sweet spot but I don't find it to be as big a deal as I hear people making it. What other tablet in this price range, performance, and size has a better screen? Maybe I am just not real picky but I don't mind the screen.
The only problem I see with physically turning the screen upside internally is some apps aren't built to rotate 180 degrees so if you were using the tablet correctly, all of a sudden an app would be upside down. I think a better idea is switching out the display entirely to something that works better. I would pay for this as I'm not very mechanically inclined with electronics.

Viewing Angle?

The only thing that is stopping me from pulling the trigger on the gtablet is the viewing angle issue that everyone is complaining about. Honestly I dont care how the screen looks if you are looking at it in an angle because one will always look straight into it anyways.. Other than this, what else is the issue with the screen?
Sears will be running a 10% off on this tomorrow AM bringing the price down to $342 and I need to make up my mind to grab it for that price.
Thanks in advance.
mspkash1 said:
The only thing that is stopping me from pulling the trigger on the gtablet is the viewing angle issue that everyone is complaining about. Honestly I dont care how the screen looks if you are looking at it in an angle because one will always look straight into it anyways.. Other than this, what else is the issue with the screen?
Sears will be running a 10% off on this tomorrow AM bringing the price down to $342 and I need to make up my mind to grab it for that price.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi,
I'seen the comments about th screen, and while I'm not an expert on LCDs, I've never understood the complaints.
The screen on mine is bright, at 80%, and I don't notice much problem even at angles. I keep wondering if some Gtabs have different LCDs!
Jim
Probably the biggest issue I have is the solarizing effect that occurs when the screen is tipped back, while in landscape. This is something that is noticeable if you have the tablet flat on a desk and you are trying to view the screen that way. You can work around it by flipping the screen, but that doesn't work with all applications.
I don't think portrait mode is so bad, as I usually look at that straight on (it might be slightly high in contrast but you can turn it slightly to fix that).
IMO, viewing angle is not an issue but .... a privacy feature!
Definitely not a deal breaker for me. There are times where I wish I could get a wider angle, such as flat on a desk. However, it works fine for the majority of uses.
mspkash1 said:
The only thing that is stopping me from pulling the trigger on the gtablet is the viewing angle issue that everyone is complaining about. Honestly I dont care how the screen looks if you are looking at it in an angle because one will always look straight into it anyways.. Other than this, what else is the issue with the screen?
Sears will be running a 10% off on this tomorrow AM bringing the price down to $342 and I need to make up my mind to grab it for that price.
Thanks in advance.
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Would be nice if they would run it at $349 again and the 10%. Let me know if they will give you the 10% on it as I will go get another.
Go check a Staples and see if they still have a demo unit out(they're apparently pulling it but some store might still have a demo unit out -- Sears just has a cheezy mockup...), or maybe an Office Depot...
The viewing angle really isn't so bad when you're using as I've found all the time that I'm holding or have it propped on my lap I have an almost dead view so the viewing angle limitation is not apparent.
As others have mentioned there have been a few times when I'd've liked a better viewing angle, such as when I have laying on the desktop while transferring files to it or having it do things and want a quick check of the screen status w/o have to crane over it...
My biggest remaining complaint is 10" form factor and weight, but mostly the 10" which makes it unwieldly which is why I'll eventually be adding a 7" to complement it, likely a Nook Color(NC) ATM although I'm resisting(strongly) running out and buying one any second now... (made it through Thursday & Friday w/o buying one... keep telling myself more tablets are on the way and to wait a bit although B&N seem to be the best at support so far, and given that they're still supporting the eInk Nook(Nook B&W? NBW?)...)
OTOH the 10" & weight allowed them to pack in a pretty decent battery, and I can manage a few days between charges which I'm sure no 7" will be able to manage, and especially not the NC... going to have to charge every night, and watch screen brightness & WiFi usage...
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Since I added in the Sears line above, it's funny I went to Sears to buy one of those crappy cases(VS $6 one), and the sales guy was laughing about how they have almost nothing in stock... He mentioned that because I asked if they had any other cases than that one, and he said that's it.. going on to mention of the two netbooks on display only the ASUS was in stock, they had 1 HDMI cable, 2 VGA cables(not sure what he meant by this one), a couple of ipods... pretty sad... I can't help but wonder if all Sears stores are like that or just that one... if they're all like that Sears is in trouble...
The Sylvania tablet display had disappeared too, since I was last there in mid-November... still had the white & black PDNs on display, along with a lone Sony eInk reader...
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I got mine site unseen and also struggled with all the negativity before opening it. I finally broke down and gave it a go and can say I really love the device. Sure, the screen is probably its weakest link but far from the bleek picture painted in most reviews.
I guess many sites are holding the Gtab up to iPad standards. The screen is just a regular old netbook LCD. Viewing angles are made for landscape and looking down at 45 degrees. Everything outside that is pretty poor but typically that is how I hold the thing and the viewing angle doesn't bother me. Portrait is another story and if you want this thing to be an e-book reader (or anything) in that form factor then you will be sorely disappointed.
Viewing angle sucks big time and anyone who says otherwise is just trying to justify and otherwise good amchine they purchase and spent a lot of time getting to work properly.
It is a pain to type on in any kind of angle as the most comfortable angles make screen look negative polarity.
For straight on viewing I agree it's nice
I just got mine in sears with a 5% discount off of $379. I know the stock rom is junk and I dont even care as i'll flash it with vegan or tnt. I am trying hard to like the screen. In portrait mode, when viewing web pages, the text is alright but the pictures have this solarizing effect which I am not able to get over with.. darn.. why didnt they put a good screen on this otherwise a good power house.. will play around lil bit before deciding if i should keep it or send her back
Hi Guys,
Are all variants of the Malata tablet (including the GTablet) have the same LCD screen? I want a 10" Tegra 2 tablet with a better screen.
Thanks.
Canadoc said:
Viewing angle sucks big time and anyone who says otherwise is just trying to justify and otherwise good amchine they purchase and spent a lot of time getting to work properly.
It is a pain to type on in any kind of angle as the most comfortable angles make screen look negative polarity.
For straight on viewing I agree it's nice
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You HAVE to have a different screen than the one I got. I can't get it to go negative no matter what angle I turn it too. The wife and I browsed the web for hours tonight and it worked perfectly, the viewing angle is much better than her hp laptop.
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Maybe different batches have different screens. Mine is terrible if I hold it in portrait and look at it straight on. I have to tilt it to one side to make it usable unless it's completely dark.
WickedStyx said:
Maybe different batches have different screens. Mine is terrible if I hold it in portrait and look at it straight on. I have to tilt it to one side to make it usable unless it's completely dark.
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My gtab has same problem in portrait.
cyberbillp said:
You HAVE to have a different screen than the one I got. I can't get it to go negative no matter what angle I turn it too. The wife and I browsed the web for hours tonight and it worked perfectly, the viewing angle is much better than her hp laptop.
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You mind telling us where you got the GTab, and when? And your model # on the box? I wouldn't discount the possibility that you might have slightly different device than the rest of us.
I know that bekit had gotten a device that had different partitions than the "norm" - maybe the LCD is different, as well. All speculation, of course.
The viewing angle was the only thing I was worried about on this device prior to purchase as this was the main complaint, but after receiving it, its not as bad as some people made it to be, really some people are just really picky. I'm usually really anal about these things too but it is really not that bad.
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Maybe different batches have different screens. Mine is terrible if I hold it in portrait and look at it straight on. I have to tilt it to one side to make it usable unless it's completely dark.
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Ditto whoever says it is good must own a white and orange cane
Canadoc said:
Ditto whoever says it is good must own a white and orange cane
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There's a difference between good and good enough. The screen is good enough. Could be better, but works fine. I think most "positive" responses are of similar mind.
My workaround is to place a gum eraser underneath the top of the unit when I'm using it at the kitchen counter. The extra 1 1/2" of tilt helps viewing and the eraser doesn't slip.
An annoyance but definitely not a show stopper for me....
Can someone post a picture of what this viewing angle issue. I see so many references too it, bit I can't get a good visual of what people are taking about

Is the display screen for the Gtablet a hardware or software issue?

I read in some blog that the g-tablet uses a netbook LCD screen, but I have saw netbook screens that looked better when viewing in an angle.
lilgotti56 said:
I read in some blog that the g-tablet uses a netbook LCD screen, but I have saw netbook screens that looked better when viewing in an angle.
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as many people have said on here it seems like a hardware issue but only because it almost seems as if they put the screen in upside down. if you turn the portrait mode upside down and have buttons in the bottom left the screen looks 10 times better.
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as many people have said on here it seems like a hardware issue but only because it almost seems as if they put the screen in upside down. if you turn the portrait mode upside down and have buttons in the bottom left the screen looks 10 times better.
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LMFAO....I just turned the screen upside down and noticed how much better the viewing angle is...Now that I have the TnT lite rom installed this tab is so much better, but the viewing angle is horrendous. Well if this is true Viewsonic's manufacturing dept. are a bunch of tards. I wish there was something they can do on the software end to make it better, but after viewing the screen upside down it's more than likely a hardware issue.
I wonder if there is a contrast adjustment that can be accessed somewhere, it seems that it would be much better if we could just adjust the contrast...
some of my friends actually think that the screen is better the way they made it since its almost as if its like a privacy screen since people cant see what you are doing if you dont want them to see anything.
The stock screen isn't all that bad when it comes to landscape orientation. But due to different viewing angles on the vertical axis (15 degrees "up" and 30 degrees "down"), portrait mode is painful to use. In portrait mode, one eye sees a normal screen, but the other eye sees a washed out screen, which combined gives it a 3D look to it.
Video is bad but text is pretty good. I assume the manufacture thought it would be used for text more often?
Think you're right, They (viewsonic) making it in purpose.
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[Q] Is the screen really that bad?

I want to get the G-Tablet. It's a powerful device and it seems that VEGAn-TAB, TnT Lite, Cyanogenmod, and zPad are gonna support this thing for a LONG time. The only thing I'm concerned about is the screen. Is it really as horrible as everyone says it is?
Some people say it's no big deal, and some people say it makes their eyes hurt. I don't care about viewing angles; I'm sure I won't be laying it on a flat tabletop trying to use it. But the supposed screen issues are making me want to wait to see what MSI, Moto, and Asus reveal at CES. It seems like all those tablets will be awesome, but will they be as hackable as the G-Tablet? The G-Tablet is like a Nexus Tab.
Are there any pics that will give me an idea of how the screen looks? Are there demos set up at Office Depot?
I wouldn't expect anything from Moto to be easily hackable as their current lineup suggests. The viewing angles in portrait are nothing to right home about but they are not that bad in landscape. I got my latest one at Office Depot and they had one display. I'm sure there will be better things coming but due to the great devs here this should be a great device until something very much better comes along. Roebeet posted some pics of the viewing angles but I couldn't find them easily
The viewing angles are bad, but other than that the screen is fine. From straight on (especially in landscape) it's a pretty nice image. If you aren't worried about the viewing angles, then there's nothing to worry about the screen
What about using it flat on the table? Lets say normal viewing/using when its laying flat on the table.. I am not concerned with others being able to see it.. just when I am using it on a table flat I want to to be viewable with at least 80% of the quality..
Also.. what about portrait.. does it give that "3D" effect with one eye having a different contrast than the other?
If any of you have a netbook.. take the netbook and stand it portrait and look directly at the screen.. You will know what I mean..
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The viewing angles are bad, but other than that the screen is fine. From straight on (especially in landscape) it's a pretty nice image. If you aren't worried about the viewing angles, then there's nothing to worry about the screen
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Find a store that has one on display. Staples used to and I think office depot still does.
Office depot has them on display. The last time i was there to buy a case i updated their display model to the newest viewsonic rom.
If you can't find one in the store, you can use any standard netbook screen as a good example - turn it back and forth and you'll see the solarization effect.
The screen is the #1 hardware issue I have with the device, which is ironic given that this was released by Viewsonic. As time has progressed, it's become an actual annoyance to me, so much so that it could (in all seriousness) be the main reason why I eventually sell mine. Portrait mode actually hurts my eyes after a short time, and trying to watch movies while the screen is layed back 45 degrees is completely useless.
I keep hoping that we can get a better LCD solution, as i would do that if it were possible.
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What about using it flat on the table? Lets say normal viewing/using when its laying flat on the table.. I am not concerned with others being able to see it.. just when I am using it on a table flat I want to to be viewable with at least 80% of the quality..
Also.. what about portrait.. does it give that "3D" effect with one eye having a different contrast than the other?
If any of you have a netbook.. take the netbook and stand it portrait and look directly at the screen.. You will know what I mean..
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If it's lying flat on a table 6" to a foot in front of you and you are sitting "properly" (back against backrest) the image is borderline unusable. you have to hunch over it to get the straight on view.
In portrait, you are correct, it very much has the "3D" effect. I can't really use it that way without getting annoyed/headache.
Needless to say the screen is a deal breaker for me. I'm going to play with this tablet for a week or so and return it and wait for the good stuff to come that gets announced at CES. With that said i fully expect to have to pay at a minimum one hundred more than for this tablet. This tablet is really a steal at 400 if you can live with the screen.
Appreciate the honesty... It sounds like it would be a deal breaker for me... Last night I was playing around with all the android phones at the new years party and then the ipads that were laying around and have to say.. that screen is just amazing... but love the openness of the Android platform..
The net net is... the Apple OS is nothing to dismiss and the screen is the cherry on top...
If these vendors dont put in what is needed into the screen, coupled with I would say a very immature platform it will take at least 2 generations before it catches mass acceptance...
Lets see what this week has in store at CES..
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If you can't find one in the store, you can use any standard netbook screen as a good example - turn it back and forth and you'll see the solarization effect.
The screen is the #1 hardware issue I have with the device, which is ironic given that this was released by Viewsonic. As time has progressed, it's become an actual annoyance to me, so much so that it could (in all seriousness) be the main reason why I eventually sell mine. Portrait mode actually hurts my eyes after a short time, and trying to watch movies while the screen is layed back 45 degrees is completely useless.
I keep hoping that we can get a better LCD solution, as i would do that if it were possible.
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Thanks for all the replies. I was going to wait for CES anyway, but now I'm thinking I'll wait for MSI's WindPad 110 regardless. The internal hardware is probably very similar and the device will probably be more polished and more supported. Hopefully in the future we'll see VEGAn-TAB or zPad on it
I am one of those owners who wanted to love the G Tablet. I had stars in my eyes when I snapped it up at my local Office Depot.
The screen absolutely killed it for me though.
I am a long time tablet user (mostly on Nokia Tablets). I love the form factor. Just waiting for someone to do it right. From what I can gather thus far, G Tablet is that device who can live with the screen, Nook Color is the device for those who don't mind a lack of buttons, and Galaxy Tab is for those who don't mind paying through the nose to not give in to Apple.
I still love mine, regardless of the screen. I knew about the viewing angles going in and checked it out at OfficeDepot before buying (they had a live one on display). In landscape you can easily get a good viewing angle while holding it, it's not so bad that you have to constantly hunt for the right angle. In portrait it's not so great, my use case for the tablet is 90% hand held and in landscape so I'm alright with this. On a table you would definitely want to prop it up at an angle, if you can do that it would be fine but laying flat is a no go unless you want to slouch way over the tablet.
I have a Nexus One, so I know what a good screen looks like. Honestly, the gtab doesn't bother me. I hold it pretty much straight on, or flip it upside down sometimes when browsing, and it's just not a big deal to me. Sometimes when it's on my lap I'll put a remote control under the top of the screen to prop it just a touch.
I'd also add that just because new tabs get announced at CES doesn't mean they'll be available next week. I bet most won't come out until March, with Honeycomb. I'm quite happy to have the gtab to play with until then.
I hope you guys won't mind me barging in here to ask a quick question. It is about the screen (okay, sort of).
Lets say I wanted to use my GTablet on a table, is there any good stands to put it on so that I can use it and not have to hunch over as I usually do (it hurts my back sometimes not to mention just plain awkward)?
I just thought there might be a particular kind or model that is the best that the GTablet would stay on securely. If not, I'll just locate some general-type stand and use that.
The screen is why I returned my unit. I don't expect too much from MSI, their netbooks also had horrible screens. Also, do not expect anything in 10.1 to be iPad similar. All the 10.1" screens are TN ****.
Folks,
I have a question -- what is all the big deal about tables?
If I want to work on a table, I use my netbook or my laptop or even go to the computer room and use my desktop.
I use my tablet sitting in a chair holding it or letting it rest in my lap. Or sometimes I set it on a picture holder on the desktop while I access my desktop. Or I lay on the bed with it sitting on my belly or chest (HO! HO! HO!) Or in the car my wife holds it while she plays games. IMHO, tablets are designed to be used portably and that means getting it in front of you in your hands or on an appropriate holder.
Yes, my view angles are not shiny either. But I don't use it in ways that make that a factor. I have adapted to maximize it. As someone said, looking at the screen what I call normally it puts out a great picture.
Rev
P. S. -- Not trying to start a flame war. I just think some people are expecting too much of a reasonable-priced just-introduced product. Nothing -- not even (especially) the fruity products -- is perfect. IMHO.
butchconner said:
Folks,
I have a question -- what is all the big deal about tables?
If I want to work on a table, I use my netbook or my laptop or even go to the computer room and use my desktop.
I use my tablet sitting in a chair holding it or letting it rest in my lap. Or sometimes I set it on a picture holder on the desktop while I access my desktop. Or I lay on the bed with it sitting on my belly or chest (HO! HO! HO!) Or in the car my wife holds it while she plays games. IMHO, tablets are designed to be used portably and that means getting it in front of you in your hands or on an appropriate holder.
Yes, my view angles are not shiny either. But I don't use it in ways that make that a factor. I have adapted to maximize it. As someone said, looking at the screen what I call normally it puts out a great picture.
Rev
P. S. -- Not trying to start a flame war. I just think some people are expecting too much of a reasonable-priced just-introduced product. Nothing -- not even (especially) the fruity products -- is perfect. IMHO.
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If this is cause I came in here asking about that (instead of making a new topic or just keeping that to myself), then I'm sorry.
It almost seems like that post was directed at me (not saying that in a mean way, more of 'aww *sad face* way).
I was the one who came in here in this topic asking about that specifically. Never mind about that, then.
XANAVirus said:
I hope you guys won't mind me barging in here to ask a quick question. It is about the screen (okay, sort of).
Lets say I wanted to use my GTablet on a table, is there any good stands to put it on so that I can use it and not have to hunch over as I usually do (it hurts my back sometimes not to mention just plain awkward)?
I just thought there might be a particular kind or model that is the best that the GTablet would stay on securely. If not, I'll just locate some general-type stand and use that.
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This has been discussed in the accessories portion of the forums, but what i use that works great is a nice little china plate stand thingy that my wife had bought for some china she wanted to put in the china closet, looks like a wire hanger type thing cost her 2 bucks and works amazing for the tablet on the table so i dont need to "hunch over". im sure you can get it at any store like staples or something like that, dont know exactly where she got it from.
hope this helps.
Some people say that the sceen is defective becase of the poor viewing angle. That is wrong. The screen is not defective. It is just a lower priced screen which in the end translates in a lower price for the tablet. A better screen would increase the price.
Fuzzy John said:
Some people say that the sceen is defective becase of the poor viewing angle. That is wrong. The screen is not defective. It is just a lower priced screen which in the end translates in a lower price for the tablet. A better screen would increase the price.
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or them just putting the screen on the right way and not upside down like it seems they did since turning it upside down works perfectly.

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